Winchester Silvertip .22LR Ballistic Gel Test & Review

[@mattmania8117]

I appreciate you using the proper gel. Doing a denim test and testing in both a pistol and rifle. It gives the data that is needed to evaluate the ammo.

[@cp300blackout4]

As far I know that gel is more expensive then regular ones used in tests, so thank you! The results are very interesting, showing how good that ammo is for pistols and rifles. 12" deep and .30 after expansion is impressive actually! 👍

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

The upfront cost is a little less, but since this stuff expires quickly and the clear doesn't, this knox gel is more expensive in the long run for continued videos like I do. If you only wanted to do a few tests as a 1 time thing, the knox is cheaper.

[@flyy_boiee_yblu300]

Can’t stress it enough don’t think that .22 the underdog.

[@TheGabby28]

Thanks for the video. Interesting round. I don’t carry 22LR for self defense, but I shoot hundreds of rounds a month. Many a crow, rabbit, and the occasional coyote have fallen to my rimfire rifles here in south Alabama

[@TheGabby28]

@heavenboundtrucker4444 no doubt.

[@AkiraFollower]

@heavenboundtrucker4444 plandemic 2 is imminent

[@TheOldFatDadGoober]

Seems like pretty good results! Winchester gets picked on a bit for their ammo quality, but the premium stuff always seems good.

[@ron.sanders49]

It seems to be a good round but it doesn’t cycle well out of my Ruger SR22 or my Keltec P17.

[@spartanmikek028]

First time I've seen one of your videos. It was great. All the info quickly no b.s.. Thank u.

[@Texan-1911]

Amazing round my first 1911 was a 22 and I carried these and felt safe as I do with my new 1911 9mm

[@BabaBlueJay]

Appreciate the test. Fellow Ohioan and now I will be testing these myself for my carry revolver. If they perform this well I think I found my new carry round. Thanks for the video

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I got plenty more .22lr pistol gel tests- check out the .22/rimfire playlist on the channel...

[@BabaBlueJay]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I will. My brother told me about your tests and as a 22 enthusiast I will definitely be checking more out

[@jonkaylor7483]

Bought some and I'm impressed!

[@Dwayne7834]

Thanks for video. They performed well for 22 lr .

[@c.miller3802]

Pretty good test . I run this in one of my 22 handguns that don't like Punch

[@Valorius]

This stuff is very impressive, I was very disappointed when I disccovered yesterday my local walmart doesnt carry it. I hate paying shipping for ammo. I like it because it has the big frag to about 5" for varmints/small game, and a deep penetrating core for "other" uses.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I'm going to have to go back and watch my fragmenting/segmenting .22lr compilation test, see if there is any difference between these and the others that do the same. Maybe the base carries further on these? Otherwise the others do the same thing, fragmenting from handguns as well in my experience. Winchester is just the first to slap the "for pistols" on the side of the box if so...

[@Valorius]

@@BuckeyeBallistics most of the other ones, based on the tests ive seen, dont have the central core that penetrates deeply. The break into 3 segments that penetrate 3-5". Whereas Silvertip has that central core plus the 3 fragmenting segments. Silvertip's ballistics are just meh, but the effect sure is impressive.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Good point, I do recall that now that you mention it- the CCI's all do that for example. But I think I had at least one "fragmenting" load in there that had a base carry through because only the tip fragmented much like this Silvertip. I'm gonna go watch it now and update this comment after... * Edit * 3 of the 5 in said video had bases that penetrated 10"-11" from a rifle, pistol was not used.

[@Valorius]

@@BuckeyeBallistics Nice, do you remember which 3 it was, or can you post a link to the video? Thanks!

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4jdf6aBapiMq8k

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Interesting. Good video quality and data. Thank you.

[@jessehskelton]

Fantastic review! Liked and subscribed 😎

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Thanks!

[@PiKLMedia]

Thanks for this video. It really help me make some good decisions. Cheers. :)

[@nelsonr1467]

Hey man I found surplus 32acp pistols for 189 on gunbroker. They are zastava m70 pistols. I don't know if you would be interested

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Interesting. Never seen those before- pretty neat looking little pistols. I think I'd rather pay a little extra for the $280 one that's in great shape. Unfortunately I literally have $5 in my checking account right now lol. Thanks for letting me know though, maybe one day...

[@peteoburrito920]

I have a video suggestion. I’d love to see a ballistics jell test on 22 subsonic hollow point. I love subsonics through 22 and would be great to know what’s the most effective for small game.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

It's on the to-do list. I have tested the Winchester Sub-sonic trunicated in a previous video and they performed well.

[@lordscheemo1892]

Interesting wound channel with the Denim? Luckily, its rare to wear denim on the torso but i get why that material is used for these tests

[@Victor-tc3de]

Thanks for the test! Was wondering if it was alright to shoot the silvertip out of a can? Any baffle strikes due to the segments? Thanks

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Sounds like a question for Winchester...

[@cervus-venator]

Interesting how that one did not fragment. Thanks for the gel test on these.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Denim plays tricks on bullets lol.

[@cervus-venator]

@@BuckeyeBallistics I'm starting to notice that.

[@contractor556]

I’m wondering if it filled up the hole or something? Could that effect it?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

@contractor - Yes, 100%, which is why it's a good test. Heavy winter clothing or a thick animal hide could cause the same thing.

[@JasonBrown-vn1zz]

I remember when cci had there segmented hollow points it was the first time I had ever seen that design, but I liked them and used them

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

They still make them

[@professorpewpuew]

I shot some through my CZ 457 Scout. Haven't had a chance to shoot it out of a pistol. I wasn't so sure I wanted a hollowpoint round out of a 22. This just might change my mind.

[@jonkaylor7483]

Changed mine

[@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.]

Pardon my ignorance but what's the difference between this gel vs. the clear gel that Tools and Targets uses ? I appreciate your time spent in responding, thanks n' God bless

[@grahamohea2424]

This gel is made from organic gelatin powder and water. The Clear Ballistics is synthetic, is silicon based, and doesn't use water. The FBI standards were made using organic gel, but for most intents and purposes, the Clear Ballistics gel is a close enough approximation. KZbinrs generally like Clear Ballistics better because it is a lot more photogenic (the bullets and damage is easier to see), is easier to work with (not temperature sensitive and doesn't require calibration), and is more reusable, but it is more expensive and suffers from problems like bounce back that organic gel doesn't have.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

@solideo - Here is an in depth video I made discussing the differences. There are quite a few... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKTPpYGigNOsaqc

[@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.]

Thank you both kindly 🤠

[@donbenson5292]

My favorite 22lr was the 37 grain winchester superx. I wonder if these are actually the same bullet they used before. Took many ground hogs with a single shot Winchester with peep sights.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I always really liked the 36gr Super X in .22wmr they used to make.

[@ronarmstrong8935]

I use to run 34gr Winchester 22mag! They packed some serious punch.

[@JohnPublic-dk7zd]

We have a box of this stuff on hand...have never loaded any of it, but it seems like it might be okay...any port in a storm, kinda like a shell of birdshot at close range, make it work...

[@Texan-1911]

2:47 from a rifle that round is perfect for any farm varmint & coyote

[@CountryRacing186]

Great! Needed that Intel.

[@lawrencehawk5179]

Whoa you found some! 😳 Only Winchester I see are the 333 whitebox. 😞😓

[@AmisCorolla]

i did not see any test with WINCHESTER 22lr Subsonic 42gr MAX ? it would be interesting to compare with cci segmential hollow point subsonic 40gr and cci subsonic 45gr

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I'm planning to do a subsonic hp video at some point comparing different options...

[@AmisCorolla]

@@BuckeyeBallistics That would be interesting for sure! This ammo might also stay subsonic under 10" barrel? Edit maybe, fps at the box is from pistol barrel?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Yeah the advertised silvertip velocity is for handguns

[@contractor556]

Great video!!

[@frankbrowning328]

I've killed a couple woodchucks with these at very close range (1 at about 8 feet & the other at 12 feet) with my 6'' S&W model 17. These work really nice if you hit them in the shoulder or head. The 2 unlikely critters were both killed while on my deck trapped in a corner.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Surprised it penetrates enough after the thick shoulder...

[@frankbrowning328]

@@BuckeyeBallisticsIt did a good job

[@Sceen-name]

So, them woodchucks can't chuck wood after all.

[@jimhovater8755]

If using a .22LR for defensive purposes, you DO NOT need to aim for Center of Mass. You need to be aiming for the THROAT and FACE.

[@M7A1bayonet]

What you need to do is send a LOT of rounds to center mass.

[@pastorbill7374]

Copy That Troop

[@ksa5128]

It's a .22 so you're not fighting recoil. Face shots is what you want in my opinion. aim small miss small

[@BrokenBarBox]

The reality is the head is not only small, but can move the quickest, making it a difficult target. Obviously if the target is within 6 feet or so, a face shot might be viable, but past that distance, most people would struggle to hit a small target very quickly

[@BabaBlueJay]

You may not always be able to count on that. It may be a struggle on the ground with an attacker.

[@poorfatman5317]

Cool video 👍 ❤

[@johnpower8356]

Excellent for self defense 👏 👌 👍

[@double-eagle-dave]

22 lr for defense I dunno about but threats I gotta deal with are all or mostly wild life on my ranch so in my gun rack or saddle scabbard is a Henry lever action 45 colt a gun belt with two uberti 45 colt six-shooters a stoger side by side coach gun and in the bottom rack a Henry 22 lr and a gun belt holding a 9 shot rough rider shooter for rats rattlers wood chucks cats and stuff but with the cougar bears wolves and other animals I just don't think I could put faith in 22 but to each there own I guess

[@Valorius]

Just a reminder, the human heart is about 5" deep in the average adult male's chest. Those fragments are definitely getting deep enough to be problematic. Especially from the rifle.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

As long as a rib bone doesn't get in the way. Even then, base should carry deep enough for frontal shots.

[@Valorius]

@@BuckeyeBallistics The hope would be that not all 3 would hit a rib, I suppose. This round is basically the .22LR version of that RIP stuff.

[@915maybe5]

The attacker you face may not present you with a squared up target. Most likely will be in motion, or angled towards you. Therefore the FBI 12" minimum. Those bones just always happen to get in the way. Close up head shots are the best, the target doesn't change in size much no matter the position, and are 90 percent fatal with one shot, regardless of caliber.

[@Valorius]

@@915maybe5 We know.

[@bfg1836]

@@915maybe5the FBI standards use worst case scenario, shot going from upper right shoulder and still able to reach the heart. Most adult males have a chest measurement at the heart 8 to 10 inches front to back. They also assume only one hit. I’ve got an LCP .22 that I can shoot like a laser beam as fast as I can pull the trigger at 7 yards. Normally I carry a 9mm, but when I carry that .22 I have no doubt I can force a break in contact with anyone who wants my car or wallet.

[@philiptheriault7953]

Nasty little round

[@youngphil8766]

Bump the content

[@sergsrt8]

With these small calibers your goal should be as much penetration as possible so 40 grain round nose would be your best bet in a self defense situation. I bet with that both guns could clear a single gel block

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

I have found a few that expand and still penetrate into the second block. But honestly I think the flat nose Interceptor would be better than anything else round nose, as it will still penetrate far but that blunt nose will do more damage (plus the extra velocity).

[@sergsrt8]

@BuckeyeBallistics yea I love the interceptor. I feel the most kick out of those when shooting them out of my tx22 definitely the most powerful 22lr round I've shot based off of the recoil felt!

[@MatthewGuzman-yo2ew]

Rimfire videos have the most views

[@Trapperboy190]

If you trust your life with 22lr or 22wmr you must have little to no value in your life

[@Artty-fl8ul]

Don't both of these meet FBI standards for self defense?

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Not quite - 12"

[@rebelyankee4910]

Great vid, you're as damned methodical as I am! 😂😂😂😂 I'd have used the Browning Buckmark.😊

[@UltraDude2000]

Cool vid, I actually didn’t know this ammo existed

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

Hey man, good to see you again. I remember when you used to be my biggest fan 😁