Winchester Super X Model 1

[@JohnShea-d2x]

I had a Super-X Model 1 Trap gun. I started in trap with the Remington 870 TC with MC stock, but it battered my cheek. I transitioned to a Remington 1100 Trap, but could not equal my average score on the 870. I really shot the Super-X Model 1 Trap well. It never failed me. I later gave it to my brother because I did not care for the constant disassembly and cleaning and changed to a Model 12 Trap. The Model 12 was my gun and gave me my best trap average. My brother still has the Super-X Model 1 and recently had it rebuilt.

[@MilsurpGarage]

Rebuilt meaning all new springs and a new buffer I assume. Seems like they went in a big circle back to the Winchester 1911! Thanks for tuning in.

[@mattbilyeu2622]

thanks for the video. I had same issue with the buffer. I'll be checking the springs and definitely upgrade if needed

[@christinamoneyhan5688]

I have told hunters and shotgun shooters the exact thing you found out. If the shotgun fits , you will feel it and shoot it great. If not sell it and get a different one. Only other option is to have your shotgun you like fitted to you. My best fitting shotgun was a JC Higgens ( Sears Robuck Co. ) 12 gauge with poly choke. Never missed a shot that I could recall. It just fit me perfectly.

[@MilsurpGarage]

Certainly makes sense.....you're not going to win the Marathon wearing pants five sizes to small.

[@bobbyscott8024]

I was born in '63. At some point ('70's) my Dad had a Model 50, 12 ga. I remember my counsin's husband having to fix it ( the bolt wouldn't stay locked in the open position) He went through the end of the stock and adjusted/tightened the long bolt, I think. I have a Model 12 in 16 ga., not as nice as yours. This was very enjoyable, btw!

[@MilsurpGarage]

Glad you liked it.....thanks for tuning in. Winchester Auto shotgun memories are always based around fixes that had to be made!!

[@CarpCSA35]

Got one of these about 6 months ago, My dad had one and foolishly got rid of it long before i was around they're incredible shotguns

[@MilsurpGarage]

Have you shot it a lot? Hows your buffer look?

[@CarpCSA35]

@@MilsurpGarage I got maybe 2 boxes thru is i haven't done much with it but it didnt have a buffer in it when i bought it i had to get a new one

[@CarpCSA35]

Taking it dove hunting in a day or so, i'll try and see how the new buffer is holding up after that

[@cracky_wainwright]

Excellent educational video. I knew nothing about this gun before this afternoon. I especially enjoyed the middle section where it seemed that the Mystery Science Theatre guys were watching an old Winchester promotional video. Good stuff all around. ~ I noticed at the end of the video, the gun ejects the empty shell a long way off to the right.

[@MilsurpGarage]

Yeah, this gun really throws them. Thanks for tuning in!

[@Johnny-jr2lq]

I enjoyed the heck out of the old premonition video. Those videos remind me of the old catalogs my grandparents had stuffed away in the basement and garage. Btw the stock making machine is called a duplicater I believe. The machines that our grandparents had were incredible in my opinion. Boy oh boy what I would give to have lived in those times. I like the modern technology we have today BUT I feel it’s all being used against us. To control and brainwash

[@MilsurpGarage]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@chrischiampo7647]

Excellent Video Brother 😀😊😀👍🏼

[@MilsurpGarage]

Thanks 👍

[@guaporeturns9472]

One of my dads buddies had one of these years ago.

[@MilsurpGarage]

Anyone willing to spend a little extra cash got a shotgun built with very high quality parts that needed a lot of maintenance. Bottom line though, it felt awesome to shoot and returned excellent scores

[@guaporeturns9472]

@@MilsurpGarage Good stuff👍🏻 Still my dad consistently got more ducks than anyone in the blind with his beat up model 12 and model 37 Fond old memory unlocked , haven’t thought about that in a LONG time🙂

[@davidcoudriet8439]

I wonder what happened to all of that crazy expensive machinery and tooling when they went out.

[@KD-lq1sr]

Now I want a trap model. That thing is a chunk of steel, not a plastic trigger group like new junk.

[@MilsurpGarage]

Still a Winchester semi auto shotgun though so don't set your sights TOO high! Seriously though, check the buffer and buffer mounting area carefully before buying if you can and look carefully for battering and/or damage. These "buffer" guns were NEVER cared for properly. Aside from that, it's a machine!

[@hquiller]

Never seen one of those. I have a Winchester Model 50. Great shotgun! But what I've seen, is that many had broken receivers and were sold as parts. Seems to me that their previous owners were firing them with a worn recoil spring and the bolt hitting the back of the receiver with force, broke the receiver. I've seen that in Models 50 and 59.

[@MilsurpGarage]

......and Model 1911's, and Model 40's and , what do ya know, these Super X models. It was more than just wrong spring choice. There is an inherent design flaw with these Winchester Semi Autos where they cannot compensate for different ammo loads so light loads cause frequent failure to cycle problems and powerful loads beat them up. Careful ammo choice can lessen your issues but the fact remains that the Auto 5 and 1100 do NOT have this issue. There, I said it.

[@hquiller]

​@@MilsurpGarage Didn't knew those other models had the same issue! The only Winchester semiauto I have is the Model 50, and only use it for hunting with birdshot. And of coursr, I installed a new spring when I bought it and calibrated it so the spring tension will prevent the bolt for hitting the receiver. Winchester fiasco with Browning's Auto 5, I think it's one of the worst decisions in the gun industry. Winchester struggled with their semiauto designs for decades because of that.

[@crossfirerambo]

Just shot my M12 for trap and SX-1 for 5 stand today. luckily i have two SX-1, one trap and the other one is a parts gun. Honestly just wanted it for the barrel (fixed mod). Uh something to watch out for when replacing the bolt buffer is id avoid using the red ones from numrich, dont know why but i did not have an easy time getting them seated. Gotta try the black ones next.

[@MilsurpGarage]

The main reason for trouble seating them is damage from previous battering that obstructs the buffer seat.

[@1957Shep]

Have seen a lot of these, but never shot one.

[@MilsurpGarage]

Gotta beat on the buffer Shep……gotta beat the buffer.

[@randyzwieg8467]

Marcellus Hartley succumbed to a heart attack at lunch while Browning was waiting to talk to him about the new design.

[@MilsurpGarage]

I’ve thought about that situation and how weird the timing was and I don’t believe Remington would have been interested in taking a chance on such an innovation at that time either.

[@randyzwieg8467]

@MilsurpGarage Maybe. But Hartley seemed to be open to lots of different ideas IIRC.