Windblown is WAY Better than you think and here's why!

[@Veedotme]

New game releases have been (mostly) really good lately, trust me 😆

[@mr.potato4371]

Did you get the early access release before launch?

[@geoffpolk]

What a lot of people forget is that most roguelite games even Dead Cells started out as being quite bare bones in terms of what they may be today. I mean look at Binding of Isaac, Rogue Legacy 2, and even the more recent Rogue Prince of Persia. I’m by no means saying this will turn out as good as Dead Cells. But knowing who’s behind it and the effort they put into Dead Cells. I’m quite confident this is gonna be a big game. Just give it time and let it bake a little before grabbing the pitchforks

[@travistotle]

It's kind of ironic you say that, as one of the biggest reasons Dead Cells progressed into the game it is today is actually due to Evil Empire, the team that took over development from Motion Twin. The core Motion Twin team that actually created Dead Cells is long gone. I'm not saying the game will be bad. But hoping the game will grow like Dead Cells did is a tough prediction, since both the team that created it and the team that continued development on it have nothing to do with this game.

[@geoffpolk]

yeah. I was thinking that same thing too as I was typing. Which is one of the reasons why I said it possibly won’t be as good as Dead Cells. Evil Empire did a lot for them. It’ll be interesting to see if they can pull off the same thing by without them. Hoping it goes really well. The demo had a ton of potential. But they are also filling some huge shoes. It’s very likely going to be a roll of the dice

[@travistotle]

@@geoffpolk Yeah, there's tons and tons of people in the Dead Cells community who've completely written off Motion Twin because they forced Evil Empire to end development. Personally, I think it sucks, but if Windblown actually turns out to be great I'll be excited about it. One more great roguelike on the market is a good thing in my book!

[@geoffpolk]

@@travistotle I’ve noticed that. I’m the same way. Yeah it was messed up the way they ended things. But Evil Empire moved on and they’ve got a great thing with Prince of Persia. So I’m just going to hope the best for Windblown and see what happens. Oh absolutely it is. The ingredients are all there. We’ll just have to see if they can build this into something great

[@borzafror]

stopping development on dead cells simply for marketing purposes is pretty shady but the game looks pretty fun

[@Nightmare-fe9hr]

My only gripe is the visuals. For some reason the visual language doesn’t click for me and I cannot follow what’s going on in the game. The backgrounds are busy and the characters lack the visual clarity for me to understand what is happening. Maybe with some sort of visual accessibility setting, but base game has to be a no from me

[@MauricioArrieta]

@@Nightmare-fe9hr yessssssss thissssss

[@noneofyourbusiness4721]

I think for me the most jarring thing is the tone shift, from a dark fantasy game to a cutesy children's game.

[@mrawesome7125]

Honestly the demo was amazing, my only gripe was the axolotls face🤢

[@robsteinbock]

@@mrawesome7125 Pangolin all day.

[@illuminastorm48]

Blink twice if motion twin forced you to play windblown

[@maxismydog101]

As someone was kinda skeptical of the top down perspective and combat, the demo really sold me on at the very least keeping an eye on the game. Its hard to beat dead cells and get out of the mindset of wanting more, but once you get that out of your head, you'll find a really well made fun roguelite. Ran really well on my setup, combat felt fluid and snappy, and I definitely see how build variety can vary alot between each run. Im really excited about the game

[@Veedotme]

i wouldnt be surprised if combat feel was the #1 thing they had to get right first

[@Teryte]

This game has massive potential, I can't wait for it I think a lot of people are comparing it to dead cells forgetting that dead cells has been developed for years, this game isn't even out yet. It feels to me like a more refined dead cells with a different theme and perspective

[@gruvarbetare0838]

Been playing a lot of Skul lately. That alternate mechanic in Windblown reminds me of the swap mechanic in Skul.

[@banana-op5je]

People act like two masterpieces cannot coexist. There is obviously a lot of love and effort being put into this game. I'm curious about all the multiplayer features.

[@dodgeseriously2090]

What cause this much aggression is because of what Motiontwin did to Evilempire during development of windblown. Which make people very salty toward motiontwin. Tho i also heard that Evilempire is also wrong which cause deadcells stopping development. This is just what I've got, theres more to it.

[@banana-op5je]

@@dodgeseriously2090 Yeah the aggression is understandable, but holding onto it isn't. We can't control what goes on between studios, if this project was some cheap quick cash grab then I'd say all the rage is warranted, but this game, from what is shown has so much potential and care stuffed in it. Dead Cells will ALWAYS have my heart, but it's important to show love elsewhere too.

[@peterlamothe4511]

u are definetly right. But it was very much Motion Twin who very specifcally said that this and Dead Cells cannot coexist.

[@TheRandomGamerMoments]

The problem with multiple masterpieces, if one ain’t going perfectly right, the dev will run and hide behind the other. Rockstar never gave RDR2 a chance because they quickly went back to making GTAO content. They’re gonna follow the money, not the artistic integrity.

[@SuushsJshsjsj]

Bro's definitely held hostage by motion twin💀

[@Veedotme]

heaven forbid the game is just fun😭

[@lilybun2]

@@Veedotmehow much they payin you

[@pointlessfeature]

@@SuushsJshsjsj man, thank god his videos on this game will weed out dumbasses

[@Raincellz]

shut 🤏

[@WildArmsV]

Or course he has to

[@LegendaryLink818]

for people saying dead cells is still better. ok. is that a reason to hate or not play the new game? i dont think so. its like saying elden ring is better then a souls game, yes but is the souls game bad? no

[@GalaxyMii]

I have a valid reason. Forcing the devs making dead cells, who aren't even the same devs making windblown, stop making dead cells simply to market windblown more, was a huge uncool move. I will still try windblown. But it's going to be a big hill to climb for me.

[@olaf8778]

@@GalaxyMii why would you want to compete with you own game tho? that would just be shooting yourself in the foot. releasing an update for your 7 year old game when you just release your new game just seems dumb.

[@GalaxyMii]

​@@olaf8778here's a very VERY simple idea instead of losing the good will of a large portion of your community. Just ask evil empire to slow down on releasing (not making) the updates. And probably make a windblown weapon in dead cells. Or give a discount for dead cells owners. The brand synergy was right there, but motion twin decided to burn bridges instead.

[@MOJACOMA40]

@@GalaxyMiialso if they absolutely had to end development they should’ve at least let evil empire give dead cells one last final send off because for those who don’t know the end is near update wasn’t meant to be the final update

[@Deoxippus]

@@GalaxyMii Dead Cells got 6+ years worth of updates. That is well above the norm. No matter how you slice it, more Dead Cells content would likely delay people from playing the new game, and early sales are important for devs. I have almost 700 hours in Dead Cells. That is more than enough value for the ~$20 I spent on it. Looking forward to something new.

[@d00mnoodle24]

We now have dead cells, rogue prince of persia and windblown instead of only dead cells. I see this as an absolute win

[@Roartykarma]

Prince of Persia of dead as of today. Ubisoft stopped supporting it due to under performance

[@qwp1884]

​@@Roartykarmawhat????? It got an update yesterday did it really die?

[@qwp1884]

​@@RoartykarmaI checked everywhere and you are literally just lying. Why???

[@Roartykarma]

@@qwp1884 Google "ubisoft closes down Prince of Persia"

[@xenoalvis7866]

@@qwp1884 He probably confused the rogue prince of persia for another prince of persia ubisoft game which was cancelled recently, i don't remeber its name

[@BluePipe471]

what you said about build making made me excited for Windblown but I'm a bit confused because my biggest gripe with the demo I played was that I didn't see any meaningful build making potential outside of the alterattack mechanic, I didn't see any of the cool things you mentioned.

[@Veedotme]

exactly why I made this vid is that the demo doesn't show the build making at all

[@Peekoh]

Yes there is drama between Motion Twin and Evil Empire. Removing that and judging the game itself - it looks pretty damn solid. My boyfriend and I had a blast with the demo and this game being multiplayer only increases the hours I can get out of it. I think the build depth people wanted is definitely in Windblown, the demo the public had access to just did a poor job of showing it, haha.

[@reaminamina6999]

At first the art style put me off (way back when it was first announced), but seeing the game in action actually changed my mind. It's still a bit too bright for my taste but wow, the gameplay looks fun! Excited to see you cover it more on the channel!

[@Ynbreezey12]

Looking forward to this game tomorrow actually. Thanks for the info!

[@pepeold1074]

I'm a dead cells super fan I can't wait

[@antlerman7644]

I find hades book of books gatekeeping to mid game really frustrating. Windblown explaining affixes from the get go looks very appealing in comparison.

[@duseifert]

This game looks awesome, I tried the demo and it looks really fun, can't wait for it to officially launch :D

[@Gumpinn]

The demo is so fun! Cant wait for release tomorrow, hope its live when i quit work at 14:00!

[@eugeliceistruecanon1678]

Agree, the Windblown deserves a praise! Absolutely loved the demo!

[@peterlamothe4511]

What i struggle with is. I played DC and Hades and I loved them. So I thought I loved rouglites. But then i played more Rougelites. And i just did not.

[@Veedotme]

this is probably a video topic by itself

[@Fleepwn]

What roguelites did you play?

[@francistein8409]

dead cells need to go people. it has done well. its a great game.

[@justforfunnn1616]

Veedotme: " starting off when look at wind blown is that it looks completely different from Dead Cells" Me: Yeah no sh*t 🤣

[@averagedeadcellsfan1309]

Surely sad that they might dropped future works on Deadcells for windblown but it doesn't looks bad

[@olaf8778]

i agree with you 100%. i also think the people malding that motiontwin doesnt want to compete with their own game are weird. i have 500 hours in dead cells and i think its ok if they want to give the spotlight to the new game.

[@jamespilcher9234]

I remain unimpressed.

[@kingseekertoad7332]

Love your content. Hope to see you dig into this game in the future

[@Lana-rs2oi]

Very cool game! I'm looking forward to playing it. Thank you for the overview!

[@sagnicht5739]

Somehow the art design does not completely click with me. Especially the the characters look a bit trippy if not unfinished. They kinda lack "character", too. I mean I will probably get it at some point, but right now I have lots of fun with the rogue prince, hades 2 and astracl ascent. Even though the first two are unfinished ... I am a sucker for every little patch they release. If I get my "gaming buddys" to play the game, windblown might be a cool option as our new coop game though.

[@Veldryn17]

No game is perfect. Especially one not even in Early release yet. I'm half way through and it's all gushing. Feels too much like an ad. We know you have a good relationship with Motion Twin. It will help your credibility if you address flaws as well and with a little more balance.

[@Deoxippus]

This. The demo is fun, and I am excited to play the early release, but there are definitely flaws. I see some obvious balance issues, but there is plenty of time to iron them out. The alter attack system seemed interesting at first, but ultimately I find myself taking one weapon for setup and another for payoff, which basically amounts to using a single weapon with a 2-button combo. With more weapon variety, that could easily change. I also don't think taking a gift, then taking a gift to make the first gift stronger amounts to a more varied build. It is basically taking the same thing twice. Still, seems like it has a lot of potential. Other than increased weapon/gift variety, the existence of shields, and obviously more levels, I don't think there is much in this video that isn't in the demo, so play the demo a few times to unlock things and see if you like it?

[@pebblclapp8330]

I decided to try the demo out and just see what they were cooking. and oh my god they are cooking. I've played Dead Cells since release almost every day, and it sucked to have them stop updating it. BUT, from what i've played, Windblown is so fun to play and i cant wait for it's release. (also btw love the vids Vee!!!)

[@qwp1884]

I can't play the game yet since I don't have a pc, and admittedly, I was extremely sad about what happened and bitter towards MT and felt like I lost all trust and I didn't wanna look forward to windblown because of it.... BUT, from the very little I've seen, the game looks great! So I can't not be excited for it (:

[@qwp1884]

One thing I am very worried about is how dodging and enemies work together, while dead cells has a LOT going on in it, dodging it is reasonable and possible and easy to understand when something was done wrong. A lot of Rouge likes which are praised by many I really really dislike because dodging feels terrible in them, it feels like dodging isn't a REAL viable thing, understandable thing to improve at, you can get somewhat better at it but that's it. There's a lot going on at once like in dead cells, but it doesnt feel like any of it matters, it doesn't feel like you will consistently ever be able to play well, win every run and learn everything in a way it'd be real to do hitless runs

[@redspyro4750]

you only get 6 weapons in the demo I think... And most gifts I have picked up have the tooltip "Not In Demo."

[@ApollyonTheEmpty]

I mean after trying it's fine but I feel like I could play Hades instead of it. Still think it's not nearly as good as Dead Cells but it could have been way worse.

[@fairyeater-o]

i think it looks alright, ill end up checking it out

[@kainwind9674]

Peakblown incoming

[@cheeseblast]

Glad you like it, isometric isn't for me.

[@snow48564]

i like it but dead cell's is still a masterpiece

[@Boneblivion]

😳😳.... SECRET 😳

[@brockwhiting9066]

I'm gonna be honest I find the gameplay loop boring and not nearly as technical as dead cells if I play something and it doesn't feel good to play like it's missing something

[@alidenizuzun4972]

question then... new dead cells updates or windblown?

[@another1118]

me and my brother played Ember Knights and even 100 percent it both of us (except for new DLC) coop on roguelites really a mandatory now!

[@tonybrown85]

When is it coming to console

[@peterturna9558]

What puts me off mostly is that this game looks generic and heartless compared to dead cells. To me it’s just another game. But I’ve seen that with many second games of successful studios. these might be decent games but they do not possess the originality/world building/style of the first games. For example monster trains devs second game. Just another 3D iso Game

[@francistein8409]

only ones i dont like are the enemies. so far they dont look interesting

[@antlerman7644]

9:58 I love games like this. This looks so much more appealing than hades 2 of WoL 2

[@solid2542]

It's the camera. As someone who didn't enjoy Hades, I'm not going to enjoy Hades with furries.

[@mistermamamia]

Just give me a fully unlocked save file from the beginning, give me a very nice sizable set of weapons by the time the game is done, and this could be a real best roguelike contender for me. It has everything I like about Dead Cells, and expands upon that in a very fun way. I just hope they let me circumvent all the dead cells things that I don’t like… genuinely needing to do “sidequests” for abilities and meta for unlocks stinks so bad 😭

[@pointlessfeature]

that's literally the first thing about roguelikes. try another genre maybe?

[@mistermamamia]

@@pointlessfeature it’s really not. It’s not in traditional roguelikes, it’s not in Spelunky, it’s just a thing that’s only spiraled more and more out of control since Isaac and Nuclear throne. Those games still like to respect your time though but not giving you literally nothing to start with. Now will you people stop telling me I don’t like these games? I could almost guarantee that I’ve played more than you man. Hop off.

[@pointlessfeature]

@@mistermamamia bro called the entire progression system of a whole genre of games a sidequest and gets pissy when somebody calls him out how does it matter that it's not present in old school roguelikes? games, like all things, evolve and change and the system has been present in most roguelikes in the past, what, fourteen years? and whether you played more or less doesn't mean a thing in this conversation so I don't really understand why you would bring that up get off your high horse

[@mistermamamia]

@@pointlessfeature your idea of evolution includes only needing to use the shit we have now. I want to see the genre evolve to have LESS meta things. I don’t think they’re required in the least fucking bit and if devs weren’t so cowardly as to shovel a million meta upgrades into every fucking game you’d be able to see that with your own two eyes.

[@earflapphat]

@@pointlessfeatureyoure not fully wrong, but meta progression is exclusive to “roguelites”, like this game and dead cells. op dissed you for literally no reason.

[@GhostOfJapan]

Nah

[@francescotrinci6405]

The game looks fun, but some of the arguments made in this video make no sense, like saying that the attacks a sword can do in 2d (deadcells) is just slashes, while in 3d (windblown) is a lot more, is just wrong even the examples you provided were dumb, "in windblown a sword does a slash and a slam attack" that's literally the dead cells greatsword, or "you can't make a 360° swing in 2d" ... why not??? Even when you mentioned builds and synergies, you said that in windblown you made a build that revolved around freezing enemies and breaking the freeze, and in DC something like that cannot be done because the only synergy of ice is affixes that make weapons do more damage to frozen enemies... like, really?? Just to name a few: nutcracker, frostbite heart of ice.. apparently not good enough huh?

[@Veldryn17]

And the art style of Dead Cells was purposeful and cohesive. This is disjointed. The characters are cell-shaded, the background and world elements are not. Or procedural things like the "cell-shaded" line work. Sometimes it looks like an ink drawing and sometimes it's wonky based on where it thinks a line should be.

[@amoditv.1567]

I would have loved the game.. if it was on mac os too 🫠