Windhand Guitar Tone - Laney, Frost Giant Electronics, Pro Co Rat

We take a look at the windhand guitar tone, I read various interviews with garrett to find the tone and ‪@DoesItDoom‬ did most of the heavy lifting with his channel. Thanks to Steve for all the hard work he does!
‪@FrostGiantElectronics‬ #windhand #laneyamplification #doomguitartone

[@FrostGiantElectronics]

Such a killer job on this!

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Thanks!!! I enjoyed giving it a go with the little acid

[@_MetaL]

We all lift together! Thanks for the tones my dude Love Windhand!

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Hell yea!!!!

[@ericwolfe666]

I love these tones.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Its a thing of beauty!

[@SPerras]

You nailed it big time man. Good job !

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Dude! I love your videos and if you're complimenting the tone then i know i did it right!

[@SPerras]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple You get 100/100 my man, the tone wth the RAT is reaaaaally spot on. Thx a bunch for the comment, I really appreciate. Let's continue our quest for TONE !

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@@SPerras indeed! I wanted to fk the matt pike holy mountain tone. The rat gets me close with the aor but i cant find any info on what, if any, pedals were used on that album.

[@matthewlagrange3000]

Love the vids!!!

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Thank you very much!

[@matthewlagrange3000]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple You do the work. I just enjoy

[@kevinkinnu341]

Windhand guitarist is the coolest cat out there

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Hell yea!

[@CTripodi1965]

Just recently found out Garrett used a Rat on the early records of Windhand, then he switched to the Green Russian Muff from what I have read. To copy his tone down, which I like, as best as I can, I either use the Hizumtas or BAT Crown Of Horns, and now the FE Drone Master. Instead of a Laney amp, I use the Frost Giant AoR preamp pedal, it does the job. On my main amp, I use The Kuro T120 preamp pedal which is a Matamp GT120 amp in pedal format. Have the wah, Crybaby 535Q, and Boss DD7 delay, been using FE Dark and Space Master pedals for delay too. That pretty much gets what I want for tone.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Man thats one sick set-up. I hope to one day try the kuro. I sold my architect but debating getting another one if he does another snowblind edition

[@ryel21]

Great job! You really nailed it. I'm curious about the settings you used with the rat. I use a rat into an Orange amp sim but can't get anywhere close to where you got.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

I think i had the filter all the way to the right, rhe volume all the way up and the gain around 1 oclock. Ive not tried that amp sim but pedals react differently to different amps

[@jedmarsillo]

You nailed the Windhand tone great job. He definitely uses that cocked wha sound on the solo and lead parts. If you had that it would be perfect. I thought every guitar player had a Wah pedal just laying around.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Im getting a Cantrell one i think

[@jedmarsillo]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple Nice. I have a bad Horsie myself. It collects a lot of dust but I keep it around in case I need one. Have you ever thought about putting out any tabs. I would like to learn some of the lead stuff you were doing. I can play some of windhands rhythm stuff. Mostly the riffs you were playing but I have a hard time picking out the single note stuff. You did well doing that.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@@jedmarsillo i hadnt considered it. I wonder what the best way to do it would be

[@jedmarsillo]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple you could just show it on the screen as you play. Or post it on a website or Patreon if you have one. Or hook up with someone like Steve from Does it Doom and help him with some tabs he's doing. I'm sure there's lots of people out there doing tab stuff with help from others.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@@jedmarsillo the bad horsie is clickless?

[@mistershabadoo]

I love Muffs but I also really like Rats because they can get into filthy fuzz territories. Blending both with low gain is absolutely amazing! Great vid! Cheers!

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Oooh I'm gonna try that after work.

[@mistershabadoo]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple I stack my pantheon into my Dronemaster, then, into my Hoof. It’s brutal. The channel “We As a Company,” did a demo. Worth checking out!

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@zach parrish they do cool demos, I'll have to check it out

[@phillippitts6294]

Every one can use a little rat in their life. That sounds really good, no sludge at all. Nice and tight.☠️☠️☠️🖖🏼

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Yes! Quite a fan of that tone

[@smailee716]

Got a big muff op amp and a pro Co rat on my board... I was interested to catch that tone from his solos. I don't really have a delay but a boss rv-6 which can be used as delay. But I never tried to combine them. Usually Im using the rv-6 with my drive in overdrive... I need to try it

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

He has a cool lead sound for sure

[@russiangoose7053]

I bought a standard big muff because I wanted the Windhand type tone. I initially wanted a Rat but couldn't find one to try and I tried a big muff and even through a clean boss katana 1x12 combo it sounded great and it wanted to drone and sustain forever. You're definitely right about the muff being more closed in, it's one of the things I dislike about it but I like it for certain things. I wish I had waited and gotten a rat instead but I'm still glad to have the muff in my arsenal. The Rat is a more versatile pedal and does more than just a thick fuzz tone, the lower gain overdrive is great. The Rat also makes for a great boost for Obituary or Morbid Angel type old school death metal, adding gain and tightness but not to the degree of sounding modern, it still sounds dark and evil and 80s. But I think your Dronemaster vs Rat video has me sold on the Dronemaster haha. Thanks for the awesome content you do a great job

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Man i love a rat as a boost! Tell jason i convinced you! Lol. Alao tried the midf as a boost? I used to use a green russian as a boost and it was very cool

[@russiangoose7053]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple obituary used rats to push Marshall valvestates if I remember correctly and morbid angel use them to push jcm900 SLX's. I've messed with a Rat in VST form pushing a dual rectifier amp sim and it's nasty. It thick but percussive, tight but in a sludgy old school way and it adds a nice grind to the tone. I've tried to boost with the muff but my little orange micro dark can't handle it it kinda farts out even when set clean and my marshall origin I run max volume and sustain with the tone as dark as possible to simulate what Garret from Windhand does with his little big muff. I'll definitely tell Jason you sent me!

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@@russiangoose7053 i bwt obituary did. Even kill em all was as well i think

[@russiangoose7053]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple I never knew kill em all had a rat on it but I can believe it. The Rat is such a great pedal and versatile as hell. Its definitely underrated as a boost for sure. The with the Fuzzlord version having the no diodes option it can really slam your amp with some volume and drive the opamp hard too

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@@russiangoose7053 yea. That's a great way to use it!

[@hellephantstonerband]

Hi ! Great job and very close to Windhand which I love ! I’ve got a Laney Gh100ti, what do you recommend for this kind of sound ? I’ve got in my dirt chain klon (Anasounds savage), plumes, bat pharaoh, BD-2w, but my modded rat is broken for now. I think I’m going to buy a new rat. Another question about the amp. Do you recommend the low or high output ? And what about settings in the amp ?I’m a little lost and think I have to simplify my board. I’m in a stoner/doom/psyche band, so some part lighter for psyche sound, and need big doom sound like Windhand for big parts. Thanks to you 🙏

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Try the high input and use the pharaoh. Might get you closest

[@hellephantstonerband]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple thanks for your reply 👍 I’ll try this

[@joshuapitz4906]

Sounds amazing brother!!!! So your running those pedals on the dirty channel of a AOR Laney?

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Well theres two dirty channel in a way. Im running it into the first high channel, the non aor channel

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Thanks!

[@ryel21]

Which IR did you use? It sounds great.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

It was either a orange 412 or a laney aor IR

[@Maxdoom777]

Rat FTW!

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

The rat is so perfect for that tone

[@matthewmorton7681]

Killer tones. I should buy ome of those frost giant muff clones.....

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Haha! Yea

[@zoltarwizdom6708]

Love me some Windhand! Prefer the RAT, personally.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Yes!

[@ikemouser2580]

Can u tell me what RAT pedal you're using exactly, I bought a $100 new in box RAT pedal off ebay and it doesn't sound anything like yours. Do I need a certain RAT pedal?

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

I just used the pro co rat 2 the one thsts the current generation. They are 70 bucks. How did you set it and what amp?

[@ikemouser2580]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple C standard, Shecter Damien, Blackstar HT club 40 MK2, pro Co rat 2(just standard one, not an old one)

[@phillippitts6294]

Not digging the muff that much. I have been thinking about a Russian muff . I need to play one a little more to decide. Thanks

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

When you try one out again try it on a crunchy amp but set the muff liek you would a sd1 or tubescreamer as a boost. I think you might enjoy that tone

[@phillippitts6294]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple thanks I will, today! I’m old and retired, so I have some free time! Lol

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

@Phillip Pitts hell yea! I want to retire but i wont have the finances to pull that off

[@phillippitts6294]

@@TheDistortionPrinciple well , I’m beginning to wonder if I do ! I honestly can’t afford anything fun . Just the basic necessities.🤷🏼‍♂️🖖🏼

[@mikecooper8465]

not a fan of mushy sounding guitar. It's just unappealing to me.sorry.but to each his own.

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

Im a fan of both deoending on my mood