Window Managers in Linux - Everything you NEED to know!

[@M167A1]

My grandma has a couch that looks like that shirt.

[@monish05m]

You wanna relax your butt on him?

[@thenewmdzak]

Grandma's are best

[@nothiiiiiiiing]

They all do

[@M167A1]

I think her curtains have that same pattern too.

[@mble]

I mean this shirt is the best

[@MthaMenMon]

Finally, I feel like this is a niche secret most linux users hide about customizing your system. I also thought window tiling managers were meant to be used with no mouse pointer, glad to know it isnt the case.

[@monkyyy0]

By "hiding" do you mean complain about floating wms at the slightest implication that windows is usable?

[@conjurermast]

This is really not for beginners, setting up xdg desktop portals for flatpaks and editing mimes is no joke. Even setting flat mouse accel, or consistent cursor themes can be challenging.

[@colbyboucher6391]

I mean, most tiling window managers do only interact with keyboards shortcuts. Like he said, there are window managers that happen to do tiling, and then there are _tiling window managers_ which are entirely focused on that functionality (and don't come with a desktop environment otherwise, so good luck finding some other way to have basic stuff like... launching apps outside of a terminal, or adjusting the volume)

[@sprtwlf9314]

Bro the editing starting at 0:15 leading into the linode commercial was phenomenal. Serious skill and feel.

[@OrcsBR]

Yes, that was amazing

[@ezracabal3343]

Kinda new to Linux, been using It for almost 2 months now on my laptop and now I'm trying to use it as my main OS on my gaming pc. Ever since the installation I've been watching your videos and this one I've been waiting for. Currently using pop shell with Ubuntu, we'll see how it goes

[@JustNekits__]

So how it went for you after 1 year?

[@daliareds]

Damn, I didn't expect the production team on this video to be a Linux youtuber crossover

[@Bruces-Eclectic-World]

I have watch your channel for a long time, I have to say this is one of, if not, the best video that you have ever done! Bravo! 👏👏👏👏👍 This is the best explanation of this topic I have ever seen. I use LeftWm and SpectrWm. I install them both on top of a Cinnamon Desktop as it gives me some of the tools I like to use. It can be Arch, EndeavourOS, MX, Mint, I have just became a Tilling Window Manager user. Yes I use the Desktops as well, so I have both worlds! Bravo! 👏👏👏👏👍 Well done!!! LLAP 🖖

[@AllemandInstable]

I really like your pedagogy, your channel is a breath for linux newcomers

[@aesouza98]

I KNEW that Niccolo edited this video, by the animations itself! amazing video nonetheless

[@OcteractSG]

Wow, a real team effort on this video! You guys did an excellent job! KWin works for me. I prefer server-side decorations for most things, with web browsers being the only notable exception. Of course, every developer has their own opinion on what to do, and many GTK-based projects seem to gravitate to client-side decorations, much to my annoyance. Naturally it would be GTK doing that too, which means the close button's hitbox doesn't fully extend to the top-right corner of the window because GNOME's top bar makes that kind of usability feature irrelevant. One problem: Not everyone uses GNOME.

[@MH_VOID]

I prefer no decorations (excepting the title bar with the name). The nice thing about server side decorations is that I can have the server just.. not provide them, and easily get that. It's really annoying when GNOME apps render some inside the window and there's not really much I can do about it short of patching the app (and oh boy do I really want to have to get familiar with a massive codebase just to change one stupid thing? No, I don't). But then IDK what else I'd expect from GNOME, being the insensitive [forcibly redacted by youtube] berks that they are... I use a mostly stock Sway configuration, with pretty much all the customization being in keybindings, scripts executed at startup, and then in specific stuff like my terminal emulator (WezTerm. would highly recommend it. It's easily the best TE I've ever seen) and Z Shell - you know, functional and keyboard-oriented stuff, not eye candy and inefficient/nonproductive stuff. It works for me, and my only serious complaint about Sway (which I've been using for about a year and a half now) is the lack of ability to magnify windows - which really sucks when I'm like, leaning back 5 feet away from my monitor and don't want to have to physically move closer just for something to be legible. I don't have a app tray or whatever that's called, and workspace navigation and control with super, shift, 1-0, q, and f is all I need. KISS, keep it efficient

[@hole386]

Lowkey feel like 99.99% of linux users just pose as workflow experts while in reality less then nothing gets done with all those fancy window managers.

[@msthalamus2172]

I never understood why people seemed so sold on tiling window managers. I've been using floating window managers for 30 years, and I like them quite a lot. Lately, though, I've been struggling with Plasma. Whatever I do, it just seems to love to pop new windows *under* existing ones, even in a completely vanilla, brand new deployment. If I can't get this to behave properly, I'll pull my hair out! Or switch to a tiling window manager. Whichever seems less painful. :)

[@JeffreyJibson]

For me, it was an evolution. I used to use a DE (Gnome 2.x) then about 2000, I switched to a WM only (Fluxbox then FVMW). I found that I kept manually resizing my windows to not waste space. So, I thought, write some scripts to do what I want. In the process of planning out what I wanted I started looking at tiling WMs. I had it narrowed down to awesome just as they were moving to Lua. It was a mess while they transitioned. During the chaos, I found i3. It is a manual tiling WM. Exactly what I was looking for. I've been using it since 2008.

[@msthalamus2172]

@@JeffreyJibson Lately at work I've been forced to use macOS. That thing... I have to manually resize my windows all the time! I'd never had to do that before just to get my work done. Occasionally (like once every couple months), I'd want something a different size, but very, very seldom. It's normal size, maximized, or minimized, 99.9% of the time. But with macOS just dragging a window to another monitor causes it to change size, not to adjust to different resolutions, as you'd expect, but because they'd been that size on that monitor previously! If that had been my only prior experience with floating windows, I'd have switched to a tile-based system decades ago. too. Thankfully, my employers must have gotten tired of hearing me complain, because they're sending me a Windows laptop now. I would much prefer Linux, of course, but I'd rather use Windows 3.1 than macOS 13.

[@conjurermast]

Try Awesome in floating only mode, It`s far more predictable than KDE.

[@rlifts]

If you like DWM you're gonna love River. Been using it for a while now, no patching required.

[@kayqueoliveira5980]

Amazing vídeo, You make difficult content seem easy, you explain it very well, thank you.

[@samtustra]

Less than a month with linux, finally a video that answers all of my questions about how cool looking the linux videos are and my Linux mint doesn't. Thank you.

[@vaisakh_km]

Which is the best tiling extention of kde? As bismith is no longer there... As a long time twm user, i can't live without one, but i don't have time to configure any so switched to kde... 😢 but then buismith gone and alternative 'autotile' is not much good

[@thibaultmol]

I'm surprised hyprland wasn't mentioned. (Not that I'm a hyprland user). But yeah, i guess there are many others that are also not mentioned anyway

[@howling-wolf]

Pop shell is also available as an extension for gnome. I use it since like 2 years on my work device. There is also Forge. Which would be an AWESOME project since it implements beautiful tiling in gnome as an extension. Sadly it is not very well maintained and crashes frequently on me.

[@aikoaiko2008]

Wow, those lecture notes at 0:17… didn’t expect them in a Linux video. Those are manifolds and vector bundles right? Really struggled with those back in differential geometry or something.

[@JPinto-sx8yx]

OMG! I need a "Whats on my phone?" video from you. Please.

[@priyanshusharma1812]

really good production and well explained!

[@Spacial_]

what a nicely delivered explanation, very well paced. Thank you!

[@torsten.breswald]

hehe, i like seeing you all working together

[@LautaroQ2812]

You floating inside the moving window... nice editing!

[@adamloepker8057]

Very educational on the topic, thanks!

[@lakshgambhir]

scrolling window managers seem very interesting

[@ahmadafandy1143]

Hello! I'm new to linux and i just want a simple tiling Window so i can work with my shell and code editor in the same screen without alt+tab. Currently for now i only use 2 tiled window (which is WIN+Arrow Key) but i want more (tiled) cuz i open many files within the terminal. Mine is GNOME, any suggest for beginner like me? Only need the tiling, no need fancy stuff. Thank You :3

[@AssafHershko]

Just wanted to say I love your shirt :)

[@ilta222]

i wish there was a WM that was a like floating WM but with user defined 'snap-zones'. i know there's some versions of this for linux but i've found all of them force a grid and basically just enforce a tiling WM scenario with the ability to drag windows. i prefer the floating windows, i really just want a pre defined box on my second window i can snap stuff to while still having my sticky notes below

[@ivanmaglica264]

btop - 8:30 - a very underratted system/process monitor

[@Rom2Serge]

Btop my favorite. htop isn't even close.

[@linuxrant]

I accidentally saved myself time configuring my window manager. On my old laptop I wanted to use JWM with qt apps, but accidentally I installed whole lxqt environment. But I do not like lxqt window manager and panel, so I replaced those with my customized JWM and it's a dynamite. Actually They combine together really really nicely, it seems, that lxqt is designed to get out of your way if you want to use your favourite wm. 200mb of ram used on a cold boot? thank you very much. If you like configuring sttuff through a config file, JWM has a really nice documentation which allow you to play around and customize a lot. But you got to be a geek like me to like editing configs. But I would not like it if the documentation wasn't helpful as it is.

[@CristianMolina]

"rolling" windows is a veery old feature. I used it a lot in 90s with windowmaker or afterstep, they called it shade/unshade the window

[@fstoplive1991]

👍what is the difference between tiling wm & tmux? How can I install a tiling wm over proxmox?

[@hidekxyz]

window manager manages windows of different programs tmux manages terminal sessions, it provides ways to create, destroy and edit terminal sessions and it also allows for splitting screen into these different sessions. One does not elimate another, however if you are using tmux just to have different screens of terminal, you can do the same thing with WMs (split different terminal emulators) However, if you are connecting to another machine and you would like to create new terminal sessions attached to that computer, tmux or zellij would be great fit. Also, since tiling WMs are meant to tile programs, it needs a graphical interface. If you are managing servers, that not always the case since the only interface you get is a CLI, thus it's better to use tmux

[@JoseMartinez-iq3xq]

Excellent tour, congratulations

[@linuxrant]

I dream of a program, where you have listed down all major window managers with r/unixporn theme variants. And you just click and after 5-10 seconds it is ready for you to try it out...

[@terminallyonline5296]

Holy moly the editing on this video!

[@pseudonymos_]

Wait, Mutter has touchpad gestures? I'm using Linux Mint and there aren't any gestures except scroll.

[@Slipping_thru_the_Seams]

love your delivery. subbed

[@guildwars3]

Very good and detailed video!

[@yapdog]

Very informative video! Thanx😁

[@Bushidounohana]

Thank you for this excellent primer!

[@mikaeluhl]

Perfectly explained, thank you!

[@WarmProp]

Excellent collab.

[@ariarahmati]

Great Video, thanks❤ 1:39 - What brand and model is this laptop? it is very cool looking🔥

[@niccoloveslinux]

It's the dev edition of the Dell XPS 13 9310!

[@ariarahmati]

@@niccoloveslinux Great, Thanks a lot.

[@thejoelrooganexplosion2400]

Great explanation dude

[@EivindGussiasLkseth]

Wow, I didn't know it was that flexible.

[@BrianThomas]

I love this channel! Boom!

[@guilherme5094]

Really nice, thanks.

[@PDD555]

So cool to see Stardew Valley there!

[@MrCliverlong]

Clear and helpful.

[@igrewold]

Good stuff man, thanks

[@wido123123]

As an Enlightenment enjoyer, I'm sad you haven't covered Enlightenment's own approach to DE

[@Gooberpatrol66]

Great video, good info

[@akiburrahman7178]

Well this is educational content ❤❤❤❤❤ thank you

[@niktedig853]

very useful, thanks

[@apina2]

I didn't NEED to know about Linode

[@xiaokanfengyun-xn]

What is the distro you're using in this video?

[@shreemunpranav675]

same qurstion, bump.

[@yglyglya]

​@@shreemunpranav675 fedora (neofetch in 3:22)

[@lcfsoft]

You can even go ahead and write your own window manager if your skillset allows you to, while preserving the rest of your … Thought you were going to say “life”.

[@GambiaTech]

what editing software you using?

[@fantasypvp]

3:55 theres also newm which has a 2d scrollable view of all your windows

[@pixiedev]

try samsung phones we can create multiple windows which can be moved any where freely.

[@MH_VOID]

The "windows key" is nearly always Super, not Meta. Sometimes WIN, SUPER, META, and HYPER are all considered the same key in some unfortunate programs, but those programs are wrong/lazy and ultra ultra mainstream in the layouts (basically they don't customize their keyboard at all, so assume everyone else is not either, and is using a standard keyboard too), and the windows key is pretty much considered by everyone to be another term for the Super key, I think. Meta is a different modifier key that along with Hyper, is used by nearly nobody (unfortunately. They're damn useful and I highly recommend you use them all, though you might need to patch your software to have proper support. I personally like having Super be for global and compositor-level keybindings, and then have Meta be for top-level/containing windows - Meta is for terminal emulator keybindings, Emacs GUI-specific keybindings (as the terminal version's could and would conflict with the TE's Meta keybindings especially since I prefer the QWERASDFTXC keys, etc. I don't really use Hyper at all but I know that there are definitely hardcore Emacs users that make great use of the key))). Overall a good video, if too X-focused for my taste (Do you know da wae? Da wae is Wayland). Never seen your channel before this but if I get another good recommendation from this channel, I'll probably subscribe Decorations are bloat. `s-S-Q` and `s-F` are all that's needed Sincerely, a Sway user

[@tuconeves]

A question: Is Xorg and Wayland on top of the WMs? (does the display servers receives WMs already draw windows or they send the windows draw to the WMs?)

[@ivanmaglica264]

Wayland is like SurfaceFlinger in Android. Xorg is kind of like GDI in Windows. Both are graphical subsystems which do the actual drawing of primitives. WMs use those primitives to draw decorations and manage the window content.

[@grxgghxrpxr]

Yes as it's a graphical interface, rather than a terminal one

[@tiktok.4527]

I use I3WM, btw...😍

[@jacobhilker7722]

i use qtile

[@astroflexx82]

Nice video

[@YannMetalhead]

Good video.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

This is the biggest black hole of time in the Linux Desktop space... this endless fragmentation and never finding Goldilox's "just right" setup. It's so easy to avoid work when I can rather screw around in search of that perfect setup that'll totally increase my productivity... It drives another time suck as well: distro-hopping. This is guaranteed to be an unpopular opinion but it might even be why devs might be most productive on a Mac or in WSL. Desktop Linux might actually just have too many choices - it's the best and worst thing about it. If you can't just use your Ubuntu/Fedora/whatever distro to get shit done - this comment isn't about you, this is for all of those out there wasting time fooling themselves that optimizing their setup to the Nth degree is a substitute for just getting good at doing things quickly regardless of your Desktop Environment. As a hobby, these DEs are fun. In the professional world it's too often a case of "(desktop) Linux is only free if you don't value your time".

[@mAcCoLo666]

So much time wasted on details... (too much) choice is the bane of linux.

[@jinliu1198]

In the same sense one can argue that both Mac and Linux are a waste of time and let's all use Windows. On the other hand, Windows and Mac also have their huge supply of tweaks, powertools and gadgets. It's not a Linux specific problem, really. People love to tweak, and any large software, MS Office, vscode, Chrome, etc. is bound to have all these tweaks.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

@@jinliu1198 you could argue that Mac and Windows has the same category of issue, but you can't argue the magnitude of the issue is anywhere close to the same.

[@Henry-br1ti]

Linux is a long voyage, I'm on it since 2005, after nearly two decades I settled why Arch (vanilla) + KDE Plasma, that's on my main machine, and a home server with Debian 12. My travel started with Ubuntu and gnome, I used lots of distros, desktops, packet managers, file manager, apps, etc. Now I feel choices in Linux are good, let you choose and built your ideal operation system. But I'm talking after years of use, a newcomer would feel overwhelmed with so many choices no doubt.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

@@user-df9uj6ls8b in case it isn't obvious, Linux distro's aren't like food or meds? arguments from one context cannot be taken verbatim into another and then ridiculed - that's called a strawman and is like a level 1 debate mistake. try harder

[@Jool4832]

1:31 TechHut plays KSP 2?!

[@TechHut]

The footage here is from @niccoloveslinux so I can't claim this one.

[@Jool4832]

@@TechHut Ah, I see.

[@maxxcleiton]

For me, this is what worked: Windows cmd adm: bcdedit /set hypervisorlaunchtype off And reboot Turning it back (if you need later): bcdedit /set hypervisorlaunchtype auto

[@Chrisg457]

So pretty much you can install a Window Manager without the bells and whistles of a desktop just so you can go around the script and add all the bells and whistles of a desktop that you would have had anyway had you just installed a desktop to begin with.

[@bhavyakukkar]

I actually don't see anything wrong with that

[@Chrisg457]

@@bhavyakukkar I wouldn’t say anything is wrong with it. Just that one seems much quicker and less time consuming. However I have come to realize that many just enjoy hacking the config files to suit their needs and I can understand if it’s a hobby they enjoy.

[@LillyAnarkitty]

1:00 skip ad

[@nnaaaaaa]

note: kwin is pronounced with one syllable

[@archgirl]

Note: no it isn’t.

[@mAcCoLo666]

I mean it makes you wonder whether people spending so long to customize their DE actually have anything else to do...

[@alexthotse5487]

Yo 3:23 setup and the fedora wallpaper !!! Dude hook me up

[@salmansheriff8243]

i use arch + qtile btw

[@Kohega]

Watching later !

[@emi2922]

2:06 what kind of phone is that?

[@ujjwalb1729]

Damn youtube and differential geometry

[@UnhingedNW]

Everything I need to know huh? Lets see...

[@UnhingedNW]

But for real, love the vids. Also I like this new angle and editing. looks good!

[@slizgi86]

Tiling managers are mostly useful for people working with code/terminals, for regular user this is not a good solution.

[@explosionspin3422]

I disagree. I've used xmonad for a diverse array of uses and I never felt like it was the wrong choice.

[@yark618]

Or just use a floating + tmux and get the best of both worlds

[@ahmadshami5847]

does anyone know if there are dot files for the window manager on 9:05?

[@Vikithepspaeditor]

i want that too

[@StaK_1980]

Talks about tiling managers wasting less space. . Every Tiling shown has padding all around them... :-P Don't get me wrong, they look great, just... not really efficient (here, form is definitely before function ).

[@karmaduq]

gTile/Divvy/DisplayFusion

[@pullrequest1481]

I use arch x dwm btw. 😂

[@redpz]

3:38 what font is that??

[@maxworm9341]

Looks like jet brains mono

[@redpz]

@@maxworm9341 holy shit i think youre right, how did i not see that

[@IcoKirov]

man, i didn't understand what half the features do :D

[@igrewold]

some information in life at theory level is hard to grasp, but once one practice them by doing then matters become very easy to understand so, try adding these window managers: i3 , awesome , fluxbox ...etc. Then tamper with them for a while, use CTRL+ALT F1 ~ F8 , to switch between machines, coz sometimes one get stuck and might wanna reboot the machine or read man pages or info pages or command help ...etc. the command : man i3 gives you information on how to use i3 & how to configure it & which key combos do what. after you install some window wmanagers, choose them at login screen by their names. When you do this you understand lots things. Also do command neofetch to see resource consumption of each WM Good luck

[@IcoKirov]

@@igrewold yeah, what i meant is that, since i haven't even seen some of those features, and i don't know they exist, just listing them with bare minimum explanation is hard to understand what they actually are. like in practice. so far i haven't tried switching WM, i'm fairly "new" to linux, and since my employer switched me to Mac, i work mainly on iOS because i rarely sit on my personal desktop machine.

[@mancampovestiminvatam]

9:20 try to move even faster. Maybe that'll help us understand what the hell is going on on your screen.

[@Rom2Serge]

I advise not to use the powebar because its very very resource hungry! ! ! One powebar is using as much recurces ws gnome and Firefox with 10 tabs open. Waybar is using 10x less.

[@Justfun-nk3vj]

DE's today are way too bloated, cause 95% of all problems in Linux, and also take up way too much space and consume an unnecessary amount of resources. If you just want it as simple as possible, you skip the Desktop Environment completely, and only install OpenBox. Done. Rock stable, no hassle, everything you need to open the programs you use.

[@overkill1603]

AAAAAHHHHHHHH HELP IM STUCK AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@biomorphic]

And the whole configuration will take you weeks.

[@chrisdiehl8452]

Suggestion, stop reading from a script. Wow, you got a few things wrong, and you forgot to say that you can run a window manager, and desktop manager at the same time. I have been running Fluxbox for over 20 years now.

[@alternatuber6698]

Waste your Time Managers

[@sd88g93]

This guy talks way too fast for such a long video. Needs to mix up the cadence a little. Good content, but can't listen to the ed.

[@jena_thornwyrd]

Yeah, caution with DistroTube, Derek is a far-right activist that expressed multiple times, in tech videos, his denial of the existence of racism, sexism and other oppressions and his support to Trump…

[@sandarulj]

Yeah, that gun video was so cringy and stupid.

[@rexempire3365]

Proof? Which of his videos does he express such things?

[@jena_thornwyrd]

@@rexempire3365 neearly all his videos about GNOME Foundation code of conduct… kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2GVl5eQj7R7orM

[@louisfifteen]

You are absolutely right about him.

[@ordinaryhuman5645]

>far-right activist lol