"Windows 10 Was The Last Good Version Of Windows"

There are people that actually say this, that actually believe this, I don't know if they are children, have never used another version or what the deal is. I remember how angry tech people were when it was first coming out.
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[@PlayNeth]

More like Windows 10 is the last bearable version of Windows.

[@elpsykongr00]

Only with ameliorated patching

[@yannickluecker3983]

Never even used it outside work or university - stuck with 8.1 until my full switchover to Linux last year

[@Kwijibob]

Windows 10 has always been a steaming pile of garbage. It was never a good version of windows. Last good one was Windows 7

[@geostokes8573]

Tbh, the only windows I have nostalgia for is 98. Last good windows was Win98, NT was a mistake.

[@acidiclight]

@@geostokes8573 Doesn't 9x completely die if a network drive disappears mid-session? Wouldn't wanna use that today.

[@alpacamale2909]

buddy windows 8.1 was good.

[@Megalomaniakaal]

@@geostokes8573 98 *SE*

[@MrReese]

This. Everything that came afterwards has been terrible.

[@MrAlanCristhian]

The last good version was 9, because never existed

[@KuleGuy27]

Windows 10 because 7 8 9

[@JohnDoe-ip3oq]

No, it did. It's called 98, and that's literally why 9 didn't happen, because programs would think you're running 98.

[@moetocafe]

Win 7 was the last good ver of Windows. Win 10 is tolerable, but not as good as 7. But this time the separating line is much thicker. Win7 vs Win10 was separated by the telemetry stuff. Now Win11 is literally high grade AI-powered and fully functional spyware and on top of that fully in the spirit of 1984. Bigger difference between the old and new Win. So, the decision to upgrade or do something else carries bigger implications now. Esp. if you use the device for work, and if that work is somewhat confidential, or intellectual property rights are involved, or secret company know-how, etc. The incentives to move to a different OS are now bigger, than ever for the Win users (but I'm not sure how many of them realize this).

[@acidiclight]

11 is fully-functioning spyware but a barely-functioning operating system.

[@moetocafe]

@@acidiclight can't comment on that one, don't use it and don't plan to :)

[@tranthien3932]

"Windows [insert out-of-support version here] was the last good version of Windows"

[@KuleGuy27]

Windows 10

[@MegaManNeo]

​@@KuleGuy2710 is still supported, it just doesn't receive any new features.

[@anon_y_mousse]

Windows 98, obviously.

[@iotku]

I recently setup a Windows 7 VM with GPU Passthru, got bullied into entirely firewalling the VM off for security reasons (I don't press the big green download button). Windows Explorer is far more responsive than Windows 11 so I don't know how they messed up so bad there. There's only a single control panel. You can actually turn off desktop compositing for the lowest possible latency and it will run most old poorly written applications that need weird Japanese locale settings. Windows 7 is outdated and old, but it does everything an average "normal" user could ever want (sans modern HDR/Raytraced gaming). Use linux instead :^)

[@antoniomonteiro3698]

Seems I'm with the majority here: the last good was 7. But I had moved to Linux a long time ago. I only used Windows if I was getting payed.

[@maxpoulin64]

I'm surprised at all the Windows 7 was the best comments. IMO 2000 and XP were the best, then Vista was the beginning of the bloat and shoving features in people's faces. 7 is relatively light for today's standards but I very much remember how slow 7 was at launch.

[@vinny-zebu]

For me it was fast, much more than Vista. You needed a relatively new PC with moderate graphics though. If you have been gaming, it wouldn't be an issue.

[@johanb.7869]

@@vinny-zebu Vista was actually quite good with Service Pack 2, but my favorite was W7.

[@bleack8701]

I never had issues with win 7 being slow

[@mskiptr]

Windows 10 was the last version of Windows period. I refuse to believe otherwise!

[@OveRaDaMaNt]

In the XP virus video the guy also disabled the firewall so there's that...

[@vinny-zebu]

My first contract with Windows was with 95/98 right at their end of life. Still, I think 7 was the last good version due it's simplicity and innovative taskbar, so it's not just nostalgia.

[@chiangkai-shrek1575]

I am fairly young, but even I remember a lot of people shitting on Windows 10 back in the day.

[@willprince643]

XP Service Pack 3 was first good version of Windows, W7 was last good version of Windows, W10 was last tolerable version of Windows.

[@KyloNeko]

windows 7 ultimate and windows 10 pro are great os's from my experience but i will be moving to linux mint before the end of next year

[@redo1122]

I am playing bejeweled 3, zuma deluxe and peggle on my linux pc. Full graphics support works

[@notjustforhackers4252]

Nah, that was Windows 7.

[@Henk717]

I was going to like that but you have 7 likes which is to perfect. Have a comment instead!

[@acidiclight]

@@Henk717 someone bumped it up to 8, now you have to agree Win8 RTM was the best :)

[@Henk717]

@@acidiclight It wasn't, the UI of that was horrible and the driver support even worse. Like ratio has been ruined :P But now that its up to 14 I can add my like haha.

[@progste]

I think with windows 8 the idea was "hey they just screwed up a version, next one will be fine", but with 11 it's getting clear that they have no intention of making a good one.

[@sergeykish]

Windows 2000 switched to NT kernel. Windows 98 improved color depth from Windows 95 16-bits. Windows 95, Windows 3.x were incredible improvements over DOS. Windows XP? Switched default theme.

[@anon_y_mousse]

Pretty much agreed, though I always had problems with NT kernels back then.

[@MrFodorDMC]

The move from XP to Vista is what initially made me try out Linux as an alternative, as the first impression was "not great"... Sadly gaming on Linux back in those days was not as streamlined as it is today and it's safe to say my parents were not happy our "home PC" became much harder to use, so I did not stay too long. I was never a fan of Windows 10, especially the intial releases were atrocious compared to 7 Ultimate at that time.. Up until recently I was using Win11 and I got to like it way more than W10 and never really got the hate it gets and why people are not willing to switch.. That was until I saw a bunch of apps such as "Copilot" being unwillingly installed on my system, with no easy way for said apps to be removed.. This led to my immediate and full time switch to Linux. It's been a few months now and I have no regrets! Windows shall be used by me only on computers I have no control over, i.e. work machines...

[@ShadowManceri]

I like how nobody remembers that there was Windows 8 too.

[@KoopstaKlicca]

Tbh I liked a 8.1 a lot

[@johanb.7869]

8.1 was bearable, but 8 was a total screw up.

[@bleack8701]

We remember. We just ignore it's existence, like we ignore vista

[@yusefaslam9675]

Windows 10 once debloated is actually a great experience in my opinion, I like it. I was born when 7 came out but I hated the theme of Windows 7.

[@nebulous962]

i paid for windows10 when microsoft said it was gonna be the last windows ever and i even paid the full price. i want money money back. they lied to me.🙁

[@whitebeartigtig]

I'm still using win7. Security isn't a concern here because ESUs. Wont say how I got those though. Also, since you mentioned it, Steam officially dropped support, but they ended up changing over to chromium 109, so it works fine without patches. Switching to something else is on the table at some point. Can only get those ESUs until Jan 2026, so moving by then is the aim. And yes, ESUs for server 2008 R2 can be installed on 7 with patches.

[@CCJ1998]

I remember trying XP when it came out within a day or two I was reinstalling Windows 98 and I stuck with it till least service pack 2 by then I built my first computer with XP as the main OS.

[@negirno]

Some facts from an old fart: I remember Windows 95 being hated amongst gamers because it was sluggish on average PCs, especially in the early years (95-97), before DirectX became commonplace. The first NT-based Windows for regular users wasn't XP, but Windows 2000. At least that was the plan. In reality a lot of PC were ill-equipped to it, so Microsoft released Windows ME as a stopgap. Many people hated ME because it crashed a lot and sacrificed some of the DOS compatibility. In the first years of Windows XP, a lot of users hated it due to the theming which got called "Fisher Price". A lot of power users preferred Windows 2000.

[@alpacamale2909]

I went fro windows 11 to windows 10 to ubuntu then to windows 10 again. Ubuntu out of the blue became really sluggish. it would become inoperable with 3 tabs open and a youtube video playing. Sadly it doesn't happen with windows 10. I don't use 11 because I can't place the taskbar vertically on the left. I am sure you can debloat it and remove a bunch of telemetry, but not being able to place the taskbar on the left is what did it for me

[@luketurner314]

Have you considered other distros?

[@alpacamale2909]

@@luketurner314 I have used arch in the past. I might give it another chance but I got no time to go through the tedious install process now.

[@luketurner314]

@@alpacamale2909 Fair enough

[@mskiptr]

​@@alpacamale2909 There's the archinstall install script now. If you installed Arch manually once, there's not much point in going through that again (unless you want a really custom setup or need to refresh your memory on how it all works under the hood for some reason). Fedora (+ rpmfusion) is also worth considering btw

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@alpacamale2909 I installed Mint on my dad's computer last year and it was super easy, barely an inconvenience. He's had no problems using it either. Just copied over all of his files from his old computer and done. Of course I also setup his old computer which also ran Linux, so his files were mostly PDF's and LibreOffice documents. YMMV.

[@liorean]

Windows 2000 was amazingly good and sadly some features got into XP but not Win2k that necessited the change for many. Windows 7 was the last version that maintained the old and good start menu organisation, but it was a resource hog. A blank 64-bit install consumed 2GiB memory. Win10 was half as resource intensive, but majorly borked any manual start menu organisation from Win7.

[@anon_y_mousse]

I'm a bit older than you, so for me the last good version of Windows was 98. I tried XP for a month or so and hated it so thoroughly, especially for all the incompatibilities that prevented me from playing the few games I had, that I just wiped it off the hard drive and went back to dual booting Slackware and Win98. Sure, they fixed some of those problems with service packs, but they didn't even have SP1 when I tried it and it's a huge part of why I went Linux only way back then.

[@mckendrick7672]

The reality is that Windows was always bad, users have just gotten used to its inherent problems.

[@mskiptr]

I actually liked windows 10. Or at least I liked my hopes and wishes around Windows 10, Windows 10 mobile and convergence. But Microsoft, being Microsoft ultimately crushed that and abandoned it all. They just can't stick with an idea, can they… But even then I was in the process of discovering Linux and the beauty of free software, so now I can put my hopes on something that actually delivers (even if very slowly). Btw, pmOS ftw!

[@sergeykish]

Windows convergence plan was to block "sideloading" on Windows, gather 15% on each sale.

[@Ejioplex]

Never thought 10 was good. I only tolerated it since i had no other choice. 7 for me will always be the best for me.

[@chriswillis4960]

Windows XP SP3 was the best version of Windows, Windows 7 was the last good version of Windows, Windows 10 was the last tolerable version of Windows. I had always dual booted but a few years after Windows 10 came out I decided to fully update my PC into what it is today and go full on Linux.

[@nikbl4k]

Good is a stretch. It was the last version.

[@copiuum]

bros name is literally brodie 💀

[@TechOverTea]

I've heard that one so many times and it still makes me laugh

[@haraldbackfisch1981]

Hehe was on win7 until two months ago... now popOS... couldnt feel better about my decision to hold off on upgrading

[@ShinyHelmet]

Windows 10 sucks, but doesn't suck as much as Windows 11. Windows 11 is what's finally tipping me to Linux full time.

[@lritzdorf]

2:50 I think that would be Eric Parker, unless someone else has also done that recently Edit: okay yes, you found the one

[@johanb.7869]

W7 was the last good Windows and W10 was the last version of Windows I've ever used. Switched to Linux in 2017.

[@bigdude101ohyeah]

The rot started with IE4

[@nerdzone]

I don't remember much of 95, 98, 2000 or Millenium and did not even have enough reference or knowledge to judge back them. I like XP but it was pretty buggy at times. People give XP too much credit sometimes in my opinion and maybe because it was leagues better than what came before. I never had the option to switch to Vista really. I loved Windows 7. It was amazing. I never wanted to switch to 8 because I did not like it. My roommate was using it and I really disliked it. I was forced to switch to 10 when I bought a new PC because of the lack of driver support for 7. I disliked it. I dislike it to this day but it become bearable. Like a chronic pain you are just used to. Like bad knees you know all to well and know when not rely on them too much and have built your habits around avoiding to mess with them. That being said, I am slowly transitioning to Linux. There are too much projects going on for me and I cannot do it outright. It will take roughly 3-6 months more. However, from my short time with Mint until now, it feels way better than Windows 10 ever felt.

[@skilletpan5674]

XP X64 was good for the time. I used OS/2 v3/v4 before then but when the middle service packs for windows 2000 X64 came out I switched. Then went to XP x64. Then they got smart and just made windows 7 x64 and x32. I skipped Vista because too many people had driver/stability issues. I had windows v8 on a laptop but that was horrible and quickly upgraded that to v8.1 and then w10. Windows 10 is now my OS on this desktop. I'm going to investigate linux again soon because W11 looks like a massive hassle forcing internet logins etc. That's just unfriendly and a major hassle. They even do this for minecraft logins now.

[@schneefackel7053]

How can Windows 7 be perceived as good if it removed the MIDI control panel and the number of unread emails in the lock screen? Most of the reason it's memed and remembered fondly is because people compare it with Vista, but if you skipped straight from XP to 7, it was a UX and bloat downgrade in so many ways.

[@MegaManNeo]

2000 was the goat no one used at home unless they had too much money. XP stock was a mess, XP SP2 and 3 were solid for its time. Vista was good if you had a PC made for it. I had one, enjoyed it but also messed things up being way too young to think about security. 7 was just Vista SP2 with an uglier design 8 was Metro, 8.1 fixed it minor but damage was done. Otherwise it was 7. 10 had some good new features for gamers (XBOX integration and VR) and a proper startmenu again. Is it good? Depends on which era of 10 we are talking about. 11 even more at releaae sounded to me like a forced mess.

[@Metalovai]

7*

[@florke64]

*Windows 10 is not equal to another Windows 10.* When they say "Windows 10 good, 11 bad", it is probably about experience from Windows 10 build 1607 ;-) Until 1607, it was more like Windows 7, than Windows 8. And nowadays it is just as bad as Windows 11 :D

[@exotericidymnic3530]

There has never been a good version of Windows.

[@happygofishing]

Windows 7 was still better than modern linux.

[@Gummb0]

​@@happygofishing 🧢

[@bleack8701]

Nonsense

[@happygofishing]

@@Gummb0 windows 7 display server is still more functional than x11 or Wayland

[@jdanks]

lol i just did a windows 10 rice on my channel. sad that its going away after i learned a bunch about it and debloated it manually to really see what crap they put in and then i tried windows 11 on my sisters laptop and its so bad lol yea i only use windows to play the game rust and swap ssd back to linux for everything else

[@imeverywhereandnowhere56]

Nope. Windows XP was the last good version of Windows. All they had to do was add support for more memory and 64 bit applications and it would have been fine.

[@Paint2D_]

The last good version of windows was Windows 8 the new start menu was the biggest improvment ever and they all burned it down in windows 8.1 and reurned to the windows 95 start menue days.

[@samsowden]

I see you know your Windows well...

[@twistidclowns]

2008 server

[@bleack8701]

Windows 7 was the last good one. Windows 10 pro is the last manageable one, with the help of scripts lile Chris Titus'. There arent any people saying that Windows 10 was the last good one because 10 isn't good. But it's better than 11

[@m4rt_]

windows 7 was the last good version

[@matheusvarella7490]

Windows 7, 8.1 (very impopular) and 10 were good versions of Windows in general

[@TheDrunkenAlcoholic]

The ONLY good version of Windows was Windows 7, hands down, I have used everything from Windows 3.1 all the way up to the current Windows 11, While Windows 7 was the best, we must mention Windows XP as being one the best also... ahhh the days of ICQ chat and bombing your mate

[@DraXaly]

Windows 8.1 is better than 7

[@acidiclight]

The only good thing 8.1 did was introdude USB 3, NVMe, UEFI, and Secure Boot support. Though all of that came in 8, but we don't talk about it because of the Metro disaster (which 8.1 barely fixed, all they did was add a start button back). As far as UX it was still very attrocious.

[@KoopstaKlicca]

Legit. I liked 8.1 a lot

[@Fenweekoh]

its not that i dont care that windows is getting terrible, i am actually trying linux again right now. my issue is linux is just soooooo damn different then windows in pretty much everything it dose its too much of a jump for most people to re learn everything. i have been trying to figure out how to add split tunnel support for steam for my private internet access client. in windows you just go to the folder add the exe... linux who the fuck knows i have just given up trying. installing apps is another big one, everyone here will say package managers are easier, ok cool but its just as easy to go to a website and download the exe and run it. and in my limited experience its actually a hell of a lot faster to go that route because you dont have to keep typing y enter to build shit in the console. or if its not faster it no slower thats for sure. even just trying to make a file in a folder on youur drive, nope! your not allowed to do that because its root only or some shit. for wide spread linux adoption it needs to be more like windows, the second it becomes more windows like to use mass adoption will happen. but as of now, yeah not going to happen EDIT: i use arch btw

[@acidiclight]

You should never ever need root to make folders within your home (user) folder, if you're doing anything elsewhere on the disk then even Windows will require admin to do it. Most package managers accept a "-y" option to automatically answer yes at those prompts, though they're the same as clicking "Next" blindly in an installer (without the risk of getting optional adware and PUPs bundled with the program). We do have the traditional "download the app from its website" workflow but it's distro-specific and harder to work with as a developer. If that's the workflow you prefer though, then AppImage may pique your interest. (though its maintainer has questionable behaviour, having being banned from OBS's git) I think, what needs to happen, is for distros to all agree on a single package format and package manager. Upstream packaging (where the app dev packages the app, and not distro maintainers) should also be more common, and thankfully that's starting to become the case thanks to Flatpak. If you really want to make the switch, the better thing to do is to keep a Windows system around but swap out your usual software for FOSS equivalents. Get familiar with them, and their workflows, and then Linux won't be as overwhelming of a switch. Definitely experiment with KDE's stuff, many of their apps have Windows versions.

[@dsvechnikov]

@@acidiclight Totally agree on there should be one package format and apps should be packaged by developer. Otherwise telling people that package managers are easier is just lying. The second you need an app that isn't in default repository (or it is, but not the latest version that has a feature you really want and used to use on windows, in case of someone trying to move to linux), even GUI package manager becomes way harder than just going to developer's website and downloading installer.

[@sergeykish]

In 2006 I've installed Ubuntu, installed software with GUI. Installing from console is personal choice. Packagers check resources. I've tried Windows, downloading from web feels dangerous - I want to install software not to check for fishing sites. You may have enough expertise but why should everyone else for every software they install?

[@sergeykish]

System folders protected by default. Search Dolphin open as root, kio admin - Open as Administrator.

[@Fenweekoh]

@@acidiclight Thanks for the comment, and especially about the -y argument to add this will help a ton :D I forget at this point what i was trying to do that needed root, that was about 573 issues ago lol, but just the fact that i could not easily do what i wanted to do even though the account I am using 100% of the time is an admin account was kind of frustrating, I do see the benefit of the added security though so its not totally lost on me. And I have found some download from website things i can install, but they seem to be very few and far between. I have kept my windows drive, there are some things that i just need on windows, that and when i inevitably screw my linux install up its nice to be able to just go back home to windows and not have to scramble to get the computer working again lol

[@noot1337]

Windows 10 is dogshit. 7 > 8.1 > XP (i started using computers in 2006/7)

[@genstian]

I don't understand, all this 7 or 10 or 11 was good, Windows haven't been good in like 20 years, you could run XP like it was XFCE.

[@acidiclight]

Windows 7 fixed many of the problems Vista had at launch, introduced D3D11, had Windows XP mode for the people who needed it (if you were on a high enough edition), and was just overall a more polished version of Vista. It was great. It was also the last version of Windows to have an *actual* high contrast theme and the Windows Classic theme engine. It by no means shadows XP, XP was legendary, but 7 was absolutely high up there.

[@genstian]

@@acidiclight Thnk of me as the noob who has been on Linux for like 20 years and just saw win7 as using 2gb more memory but atleast using more cores.

[@DudeSoWin]

XP ---> 7 ----> 10 (And it keeps getting worse.)

[@dylanstoesz1324]

Incorrect. Windows XP was the best.

[@Doddster1983]

Another cry video about win 11

[@Fojony1985]

Windows 10 is same crap as Linux if we compare them with Windows 11. Windows 11 is the most beautiful OS which is ever released. Windows 11 + WSL2 + Win Terminal + Dev Drive is the all what you need for development, MS is definitely give more attention to developers now.