Wine and Gemstones: Beryllium Diffusion [Treatments]

[@ckcarruth]

One of your best, Peter! Clearly explained and funny to boot! You’ve got the gift!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

:D Glad you enjoyed it Cheryl~

[@leahhoward239]

Good to know. You’re providing some very important information to both makers and buyers of jewelry. Thanks.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

That's the goal ~ i'm glad you see its value.

[@gavinclark6815]

This has been one of my favorite videos, thanks again Peter.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Fantastic to hear, Gavin~ This topic is actually one of the reasons that I started the channel. Some conversations are SO hard to have over text on a messenger app. Better to make a video and send a link when necessary XD

[@jamesroush6850]

Your videos are amazing! Thankyou so much for making them, I love watching and learning!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

My pleasure to serve, James

[@micfin109]

This was great thank you! Such an underrated channel.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thanks very much ~ I hope to grow in time, but best to grow from a strong foundation of solid content, so that's what i'm focusing on at the moment :D

[@coreymerrill3257]

You are a guru sir! I am glad your absence has seen you busy!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

I'm glad to be of service~

[@rogerhargreaves2272]

Always worth another watch. I’ve even seen Beryllium treated Alexandrite.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Huzzah ~! Repeat value :D On the alexandrite - was it tested as alexandrite, or did the dealer/owner say it was alexandrite. There is colour change sapphire out there that can look an awful lot like alexandrite (almost all the alexandrite simulants are synthetic colour change sapphire now bc its much cheaper to manufacture than synthetic chrysoberyl/ alexandrite) If it actually is chrysoberyl/alexandrite and beryllium treated, i'd be thrilled to hear more about it.

[@Kpat101]

Well explained…. Peter. Thank you !!!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

thanks~ my pleasure to serve.

[@luisslack3653]

I have Australian sapphire and they are dark due you think this process can light them up

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Hi Louis ~ most basaltic type sapphire sources (Australia, Nigeria etc) can tend to the dark side. Beryllium treatment is unlikely to do anything positive to those types of stones as I understand it, but who knows until you try.

[@luisslack3653]

Thanks

[@aaroningram9741]

Great show! Very good info. Ur smart and funny,love ur channel!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thank you ~ you're very kind.

[@rogerhargreaves2272]

Ha, Peter, great intro & an enlightening & entertaining production. I heard about Beryllium treatment a couple of years ago, and how even experts were a bit baffled; to say the least. Yes, I agree it’s a “natural” treatment and hard to detect. It does make a Corundum more beautiful but to disclose it as untreated is just wrong, wrong and more wrong. “If only” this treatment was disclosed at point of sale then this wouldn’t be an issue. As the saying goes, “If your Auntie had balls, she’d be your Uncle”. Great production, always great full learning from you. Rog, from Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

I 100% agree with you that disclosure is essential. This is a real wrench in the gears for the gem trade right now, because any suspected sapphire in several important colours, now MUST go through certain labs that are able to test for Beryllium, other wise you can in no certainty trade at the right price. Many people have responded by only trading on unheated sapphires and rubies. As long as you have the money ~ that's certainly the way to go. The rest of this material though, and MUCH of the previously saleable material that came out of the mines needed to be treated. Now it's just tough for people to trust (and rightly so). Now if only folk could all be pinnochios and we could know clearly if they were lying, this would be much easier eh? I'll ask my uncles if they have any 'splainin' to do.

[@rogerhargreaves2272]

@@GemologyforSchmucks - I can’t agree with you more on that one, unfortunate as the situation is. 👍

[@prettybird1978]

I have a very beautiful yellow sapphire that is 6.5 carats. It is certed and is Be heated. I am going to enjoy it for what it is. If I sell it I will be sure to sell it for what it is.

[@zafarhabbib]

You are awesome bruh!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thank you thank you~

[@chinthakasugathadasa4769]

Hi, How reduce darkness from spinel gem stone

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

An excellent question, and the answer will depend entirely on the nature of the crystal. Some spinels have an inherently dark crystal body and have to be handled one way, others are cut overly deep and have extinction that causes darkness. There is a lapidary in our community that says learning how to reduce darkness is how a gem-cutter gets their Ph.D.

[@nana.gemstone5482]

Hi Peter I had a question what is the price of a 3.15 carat color treated Yellow diamond and thank you for all the information

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Hi Jon ~ for the pricing of diamonds, your best bet is to approach several diamond dealers and see what they're asking and go from there. I'm not so much in that particular niche ~ thanks for the question.

[@pleromaprism7581]

So is this a treatment similar to aura quartz and mystic topaz

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Hi Abraxas~ The short answer is no. Aqua aura/ mystic quartz/ etc etc are coatings of metal that are sputtered onto the gemstone. It is only "skin deep", so if you scratch them aggressively enough, they will come off. Beryllium treatment is "in the meat" of the stone, which means it is a stable treatment. Thanks for the question

[@uncut.gemstones]

what wine do you like to drink?

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

The tasty kind...? 😂 Snark aside: I like a large variety, though i'll say my top picks are Malbec, Shiraz/syrah for red (though I think Cabernet Sauvignon has never let me down either...) and for white I like Gewürtzraminer, Pinot Grigio, Cabernet Blanc, Viognier. There no more abridging the list further than that... XD

[@Liburni]

​Alex Hadden great idea, dear Peter i send you one virtual wine bottle "Dingač" , fantastic video i never heard about Beryllium treatment,,,bravo again

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@Liburni I'm glad you were able to hear about something new from my channel :D I also look forward some day to trying this Dingač stuff.

[@aminasharmila6394]

Have any treatment for dark spinel

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Not to my knowledge ~ Dark spinels are just dark. You've got to love em' or hate em. I personally love the deep blues and grays, but I've been known to be unusual.

[@jermanewright7024]

I want to start my own jewelry line. I. I want to only work with untreated and unheated gemstones. Everyone always says this and then ends up at some point caving in with maybe the emeralds or the tanzanite... Is it really possible to have have only natural gem stones and still be able to make beautiful jewelry or has heat treatment really taken over and we simply must surrender?

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

There are around 200 commonly traded minerals that we think of as gemstones. A large chunk of those are unknown by the general public and do not have a true synthetic, are primarily untreated, or only have treatments that mimic what happens already in the earth and are effectively undetectable as such. There is no need to use heavily treated gemstones in your jewelry. That is just the path of least resistance for many people. For someone who wants to build their own line, i'd choose a lesser known gemstone that you find beautiful and build people's awareness of it. You can get a great price on some of those stones and build value through education and exposure that way. No need to surrender like water.

[@oakleymills4847]

Hey Peter I'm about to buy a sapphire from someone and I asked if it is s Beryllieum Diffusion heat treated Sapphire, and they sent me this relpy can you tell me if this means it is a Beryllieum treated Sapphire : These are diffused sapphire (surface diffusion) Diffusion is a technique whereby certain natural elements, those used in nature when colouring allochromatic gems, are placed on the surface of the gem during the heating process and the colour is diffused into the gem.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Diffusion covers a large category of outside-element processes. Most common are titanium for blue sapphires, and chromium typically for red. Beryllium is a much more complex process. This is a "heavily" treated gemstone regardless.

[@lifeofola9289]

Honestly any treatment besides glass fill is fine with me but I 100% want the untreated/unheated stones

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

My general theory is that, the more I see of treated stones, the faster I get bored of them. Somehow that doesn't seem to happen with untreated stones. Perhaps it's magic XD.

[@aaroningram9741]

From what I've seen,something like 90% or more of stones are treated. I'm no expert but I hear that the heat treatment changes the molecular structure or something and lessens the metaphysical properties. That might make a good episode to discuss

[@aaroningram9741]

Heating changes the crystal alignment of their electrons.

[@snowwhite5842]

That beard could have its own channel.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

HAH! That's a fantastic vote of confidence. Thanks Michelle