Old Mountain Mesa Longbow - 3Rivers Archery

[@Wingman115]

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[@JeffAndrews-zb9qv]

One of the best reviews that I have seen in recent memory. VERY informative and Wingman's delivery and presence in front of the camera is excellent !!! Covered all the base...Kudos!

[@comfusedWorldpassanger3399]

Archery is just a lot of fun and good times, out with ur buddies stumping or whatever, that`s quality time at it`s best. It`s nice to hear when speaking with such enthusiasm as you do. Nice video.

[@Wingman115]

Thank you for watching and the support.

[@shcmoly]

I am a bow hunter, compound variety - don't hold it against me, still learning every day. Jon thank you for sharing your passion!

[@Wingman115]

shcmoly Thanks for checking in my friend.

[@BigRigOutdoors]

I got lucky when I got mine, I went into the 3 Rivers Archery shop just after they got these bows in and a few of them had been mismarked and 3 Rivers had them on sale. I bought one for my nephew and after getting it home and shooting it I decided to keep it for myself lol it really is a great bow very little hand shock and pretty quick. Great review

[@Wingman115]

Big Rig Outdoors sweet deal.

[@asphaltcowboy84]

I love archery, I need to get into traditional archery. Nice video bud! 👍👍

[@Wingman115]

Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@jbcurdog72]

I was surprised how slow this bow shoots... this was my favorite out of the longbow's I was looking to buy.

[@Wingman115]

Keep in mind my draw is 26 inch. So it will be slower than the standard 28 inch standard.

[@peterplanz2310]

Someone on FB had recommended this to me, so I searched for reviews here and found a new favorite channel. I’ll be ordering a Mesa very soon!

[@Wingman115]

Peter thank you for stopping by. Look forward to talking to you again.

[@vegasray144]

Outstanding video, very well done, the information was great and easy to understand and how clear the video was shot was great. Watching this video helped me to makeup my mind, I will be purchasing the Old Mountain Mesa Longbow.

[@Wingman115]

Glad it helped. Welcome to the trad tribe.

[@vegasray144]

Went to buy my Longbow today via the internet and there are no Old Mountain Mesa Longbows in Right Hand available in 40# to 50# draw weight. Please let me know if you hear about any in stock in RH, 40#-50# LBS Draw.

[@Wingman115]

@@vegasray144 I think the whole covid thing has hurt their importing of product.

[@mitchalgreen7244]

Consistent shooting, and anchoring, like the form you shoot, how you lean forward slightly, you know how to shoot. I see some people on these channels that think they know how to shoot, but they don't. I have a thin fingerless glove that has a thin silicon palm I shoot with, helps reduce the shock when I shoot. Nice video, bow, and info.

[@Wingman115]

Mitchal Green Thank you for the kind words and watching.

[@jake4194]

How much did your arrows weigh for the chrono test?

[@jaimeleondelaparra3877]

Awesome bow, brother! I'm diggin it as much as I'm diggin that ball cap with that leather patch!

[@Wingman115]

I knew you would catch the hat. Lol

[@Spirit_Pixxelmaster]

First of all thank you for this Preview. 2. I want to say its that the Bow looks pretty awesome. 3. For most of the Archers it is maybe fast enough. But 140-144 fps for me it is to slow. I prefure fast Bows. But it is my choice. At least i want to say it is a fantastic Location in the Wood where you shooting at. I Love this View over The Trees and up to the Hill. Thank you for the nice Work keep it up Greetings from Michael from Germany

[@Wingman115]

I have a short draw. 3Rivers did a video and the go over 180 out of the bow!

[@p1choco]

@@Wingman115 I think your draw may be shorter than what you think it is. If you're drawing 27 inches and have the arrows cut to 28, the end of the shaft would be 1.75" ahead of the valley of the grip. But you have at least 3 inches hanging off the front of the riser. You're probably only drawing somewhere between 25.5-26 inches.

[@riccoratzo]

Beautifull video! Also great Music!

[@Wingman115]

Thanks for stopping by.

[@markbosch7274]

I ordered the black ridge hybrid from Lancaster not here yet do to snow but I like yours a lot and I can’t wait to get over to east Oregon out of the valley to fling arrows

[@Wingman115]

Good stuff my friend. Shoot strait!

[@guns4funcajanajustin]

Good looking bow. Nice shooting.

[@Wingman115]

Survival Mindset Thanks Justin.

[@rich105759]

Just got mine today from 3Rivers

[@Wingman115]

Congrats now get out there and shoot that bow. Have fun with it my friend.

[@rich105759]

@@Wingman115 yes sir! I plan on it

[@keithbaker3405]

Good to see some more archery content at long last...i'm just not into guns, knives and the hunting thing (other than my Hultafors GK knife for digging out rogue arrows from wood), it won't be long before tooth picks are made an illegal carry here in the UK. I'm surprised at your arrow spine choice...I would have guessed that a 500-600 spine would have been a better tune considering your draw length is so short.

[@Wingman115]

The 400 spine fly pretty strait and true off the shelf for me with this setup.

[@GovtWatchdog]

Something about your channel John. It really sets itself apart from all the rest 👍🏻

[@Wingman115]

Thank you very much for the channel support.

[@nachogroucho]

I own a Bear Montana in 50# also and it's my favorite bow, tho I love recurve as well. I've been eyeing the Mesa for awhile and was wondering about its performance compared to the Montana?

[@seayak]

I agree that arrow speed in the range of 140-145 is pretty slow for a bow of that poundage, even at your shorter draw length. For hunting I would compensate by using a heavier arrow with a view to capitalizing on momentum rather that kinetic energy. It does have a handsome handle riser and nice string, as you say. My brand new Bear Kodiak Magnum also came with a very crudely made Flemish twist string. No attempt was made to taper the twist out at the string loops, and it looked like it was put together by a beginner in a knitting class, with loose ends dangling out. I suppose if it frays enough it might contribute something to string silencing...Nice to hear that Old Mountain is paying attention to string fabrication. Will Bear step up the plate any time soon?

[@evanbungum3692]

@wingman115 If you had to pick between the Old Mountain Mesa or the Bear Montana what would you pick?

[@oldmountainarchery]

I really enjoy your clips, I also like thier designs as well!!Thank for sharing your amazing review!!!😉

[@Wingman115]

Your welcome.

[@jake4194]

Should I get this or the southwest scorpion???

[@Wingman115]

Honestly I’ve never shot the scorpion. But from my experience with the other models I would think it would be a solid shooter.

[@jake4194]

@@Wingman115 it would be awesome if you could review one and also do a speed test on it. Its center shot unlike the mesa which is a plus for me.

[@brianlocal3]

Would you pick this or the Montana as your favorite?

[@Wingman115]

Montana. Now if price is no issue the Shrew Classic Hunter. I have a review on the channel. That bow is the cats meow.

[@brianlocal3]

@@Wingman115 definitely if price was not an issue, That’s how I feel about the black widow PL longbow, it’s a phenomenal Bow I just can’t bring myself to spend that kind of money

[@kdundon92]

I have a recurve but want to try a longbow, Slick Stick or The Mesa? I cant pick!! Both look amazing!!! Halpppppppp

[@Wingman115]

If you have the budget. Slick stick.

[@isaactyson4618]

Thanks for the review! I'm sorry if I missed it in the video but what was the total arrow weight for the arrows used in the chrono test?

[@codykelley4338]

I did a rough calculation from what he said his set up was and came up with 415 ish. Seems light to only be shooting 140 fps.

[@bobwampler3387]

That is a beauty.

[@Wingman115]

Bob Wampler 👍🏻👊🏻

[@AngloSaxon1]

Great video

[@anbu94]

Does this bow have a loud "clank" sound when shooting? I just got one and get that noise everytime I shoot, doesn't matter if I have a weak spine, stiff spine or a perfect spine. I've also tried different knocking points thinking it was too low and bouncing off the shelf. When I pluck, not dry fire but pluck the string, I think I can faintly hear that sound.

[@anbu94]

This isnt my first long bow but it is my first with a heavy reflex deflex. I have silencers, brass knock and bare shaft tested it. They fly and land straight bare shaft.

[@tomellendorf7236]

Try running your brace on it at least 7.25 or a smidge higher. Worked slick for me

[@Woodenarrows]

What is your arrow weight? Bow weight, draw length and total arrow weight are all factors for fps speed.

[@Wingman115]

Somewhere around 400 grain I have a shot draw so my arrows are about 28.5 inches long. 125 grain tip. Speed was slow due to my short draw length.

[@elwynsmith5092]

Love this video ! I have two recurves and a Bodnik Longbow D flex Reflex longbow and just love going out shooting. The longbow your using looks amazing !

[@Wingman115]

It was a fun video to shoot for sure. Thanks for stopping by.

[@jeffwhitfield4173]

What is your brace height? And, any problem tuning? Mine is always hitting nock high, no matter how many adjustments I make! Love the bow, just can't get it to tune

[@Wingman115]

Well spec's say 6 3/4 - 7 1/2 I'm running about 7 1/4 on mine. I would say it's the arrow. Make sure it's the right spine for the bow and then either trim or add or subtract weight up front.

[@treedeblue]

Have you tried the German longbow Dakota?

[@Wingman115]

I have not. But would like too.

[@treedeblue]

@@Wingman115 me 2 I hear it’s more of mix of hard woods, oak and such. Also, those hallowing screams your bud recorded are no mountain lion btw trust me. Lots of folks don’t wanna believe in the hairy one, I believe maybe it’s my First Nation side, Great channel!

[@Wingman115]

@@treedeblue thank you my friend I appreciate the support.

[@sebastienraymond3648]

Very good video. I've been waiting for this review since you bought this bow and I told you about it on FB. I am addicted to archery and I have many bows in th epast. However, I sold most of them and kept only three of them, all set at 55#. The others were at different poundages, so I got rid of them. I see that I'm not the only one to go in te middle of the forest with a portable target. Stumping is fun, however it can be devastating for arrows sometimes.

[@Wingman115]

Thanks for checking in.

[@TheNockingPoint]

John, Not sure if was intentional. But posting this just after LAS had live coverage of the Barebow Class at the 2019 Lancaster Archery Classic was impeccable timing!

[@Wingman115]

Blind luck. Even though I enjoyed watching the bare bow competition. Like my mom used to say. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[@brandonberrios8664]

I want this bow now

[@Wingman115]

👍🏻👊🏻

[@194353549]

Price??

[@Wingman115]

Link in description.

[@millerb32]

250.00

[@jeyana2543]

Would this be good for hunting??

[@Wingman115]

You sure can hunt with this bow no problem at all.

[@jeyana2543]

Wingman115 even as far as deer hunting ?

[@luckynorm100]

arrow weight???

[@libertyrogueoutdoors7369]

Great review & demo my friend! Nothing like the stick & string thing ...something soothing about it for sure! I have many Longbows...I'm partial to the Bama Bows myself, not sure if your familiar with them? Will check out the Old Mnt @ 3 Rivers...Booyaakah my friend!

[@Wingman115]

I will check out the Bama Bow. Thanks for stopping by.

[@micahelmckenna3654]

can i hunt deer with this bow

[@Wingman115]

Micahel Mckenna Yes no problem.

[@Asyougo-ministry]

Now that is what I would like to get into. Heck my girls too.

[@Wingman115]

It’s a fun sport for sure.

[@shannonmoseley2879]

Just bought 2 40lb and 55lb they are sweet.

[@bulletcoin178]

nice hybrid

[@Wingman115]

Jan Schulhof 👍🏻👊🏻

[@LongBowMan89]

Great video man , Johnny from 3rivers was telling me about this bow yesterday while I was at the tradbow expo in kalamazoo. For the price it can't be beat. Could very well give other bows in that price range a run for there money. Kzoo is a show you gotta make sometime man. If you love trad archery as much as I you will be in heaven.

[@Wingman115]

I have it on the bucket list.

[@adamjinkz6742]

The 62in galaxy black ridge hybrid for under 200 is a very good bow. Have both and the galaxy is a bargain!

[@jbcurdog72]

Brace height???

[@Wingman115]

6 3/4 - 7 1/2

[@jbcurdog72]

@@Wingman115 thank you! Just got mine today 40# my draw is about 28.5ish I'm going with 500 GT traditionals, what do you recommend for length and tip weight??? Thanks for the response! Great video

[@AvoidingChores]

great looking bow, I'd like to get into it, but I fear right now it'd be collecting dust.

[@Wingman115]

If you have room in the yard and can shoot. It's makes it easy to practice on a regular basis.

[@msilverhammer]

Wow...Aren't you supposed to be at Shot Show hobnobbing with all the Unreality Show and KZbin Fake Bushcraft Marketing Channel wannabee (un)celebrities? LOL I don't blame you for skipping it, as you could show me videos from Shot Show 2018, 2017, or 2016, and I would not know the difference. If the show ended this year, I would not miss it! Anyway, I won't name anybody, but I know that you don't fall into that category! You always keep it real and genuine! Great Bow by the way! Thanks!

[@Wingman115]

To much going on the home front. Had to stay close to home base. Thanks for watching and the channel support. Looking to try and make it to Blade this year.

[@shanedarden5238]

Chinese made?

[@jmarine1933]

Yep

[@WV591]

Almost pulled the trigger on this beauty until you said, shelf not cut to center. what a waste. moving on.professional custom builders cut slightly passed. thx for honest info.

[@Wingman115]

👍🏻👊🏻

[@desertrainfrog1691]

What's wrong with that? That slight bit that it's cut before center shouldn't effect it that much

[@marcnavez4878]

Traduction en Français merci

[@Wingman115]

👍🏻👊🏻

[@30cpe]

Nice looking bow. The price reflects the country of origin: China. If you have those arrows cut to 28", you are drawing closer to 25" than 27" which would explain the lack of speed. For a 432 grain arrow, 140 fps is not fast. Your arrows are also way over spined. Even if you were drawing a full 28" and the bow was cut to center, you would still be over spined with a 400. Run it through 3Rivers spine calculator and you'll see what I mean. Since you don't say how far from center the bow is, I ran it as though it were center shot. The bow's dynamic spine is 56.3# while the arrow is 94.8#. For tuning, you would want the numbers to be within 2#. Granted, calculators are just a place to start, but nearly 40# difference is huge. If it's not cut to center, the difference would be even greater.

[@Wingman115]

Arrows were the issue. I have since changed to arrows tuned just for this bow and were good to go.

[@batswithsass3754]

@@Wingman115 if you don't mind replying, do you know the spine and length of the arrows you settled with? I'm new to recurve archery and want to get the right arrows for this bow.

[@Wingman115]

@@batswithsass3754 Keep in mind my draw is 26.75 inches. Arrows are 500 spine cut to 28.5 inches standard insert with 200 grain tip. Works great.

[@batswithsass3754]

@@Wingman115 thankyou so much, I only specifically asked you because we have the same draw so that should work great for me too.

[@Wingman115]

@@batswithsass3754 Keep me posted how it works out for you.

[@markchambers2812]

Looks like a bargain.

[@JB-ig5pk]

Good way to break arrows shooting that stupid ball target

[@Wingman115]

It's ok I have a lot of arrows. LOL Thanks for watching.

[@jimmyhaley-wk7vq]

too slow for my money

[@WV591]

what is wrong with these bow makers. cut the damn shelf 1/8 passed freaking center if not at least center. WT hell...what a waste

[@tomellendorf7236]

What's wrong with that?

[@randyscott9034]

Please don’t load your arrows like that makes you look like a little kid at summer camp. Just sayin

[@Wingman115]

Lol theirs always one archery nazi in the crowd.

[@randyscott9034]

Seems there always a smart ass in every crowd also

[@Wingman115]

I knew I like you. 👍🏻

[@desertrainfrog1691]

@@Wingman115 Archery Nazi, I like that

[@klaasdebruijn6576]

I know it's been a year, but could you point me to a video on how to load the arrows correctly onto the bow?