Wings of Romulus "The Kithomer Massacre"

Welcome all to this "Wings of Romulus" Thanksgiving Special! (No Seriously)
In the decades after the Tomed Incident the Romulans Seek Revenge, not on the federation, but on their old allies the Klingons avenging their betrayal during the Tomed Incident by destroying the crown jewl of the Empire, and Striking down its Noblest houses. As House Mogh and Duras are brought together under one roof, to share meet and mead. But one will betray their hosts Hospitality...
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[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Pinned comment for Q&A. Also big shoutout to Tully DT and www.deviantart.com/syckoson

[@jonathanmcfarland288]

Why don't the Klingon go to war with the Romulan after this?

[@SPatrickRoss]

While the Klingons lacked the power to go to war against the Romulans, I could imagine there were more than a revenge raids.

[@SPatrickRoss]

When Picard encountered the Romulans, they mentioned dealing with a problem on the far side of their territory. I have to wonder what was so much trouble that they ignored the Federation and finishing off the Klingons?

[@eddierudolph8702]

@@jonathanmcfarland288 if they attacked the Klingons in force with the intend to conquer them, the Klingons would have made it a very hard fight of it. And just like they viewed the Klingons conquering the Federation, the Federation would view the Romulans conquering the Klingon empire.

[@james27617]

When will we get a completion to Dominion War I'm looking forward to seeing what happened with the breen got into the war

[@jprice6419]

No Klingons died in the the production of this video.

[@miamijules2149]

It’s early yet.... give it time.

[@Big_Black_Dick]

😂 lol

[@absboodoo]

It's not a good day to die.

[@Marinealver]

And the wrong family was blamed

[@elilandesberg9845]

However, many Bothans died.

[@geekiusmaximus1882]

This was just truly incredible. Both this and the Tomed Incident are without a doubt your most incredible works in the history of this channel. The amount of effort into the ships, lore, usage of different ships, taking content from your older videos, and showing how the relationship between the klingons and romulans developed, I know people sometimes spit at your content for being "headcanon" but this and Tomed are just too good to blow off. One could EASILY imagine these stories turned into star trek visual productions.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

your too kind. im glas you enjoyed it. did you have a favorite ship?

[@geekiusmaximus1882]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 the V’Melak really won me over in this episode, despite my reservations. Also I love the Raven frigate, which was actually the ship I was asking about during the QandA about the Nova, not the Raven from Klingon academy XD I had never heard of that ugly thing before

[@cpt_bill366]

I'd rather have his headcanon than whatever weirdness Paramount may eventually create. I'm convinced there is no way they would ever bring back the style of the Ent-B variant without ruining it through artistic liscence.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

@@geekiusmaximus1882 ah well then I will be covering it soon.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

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[@philiptai233]

Without the protection of the Enterprise and its crew, the viewer can truly experience the terror of Romulan strategic warfare.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Yeah there's no plot armour here.

[@bloodysimile4893]

Balance of terror did a decent job to have both bird of prey and the Enterprise stand a equal chance against one another without signs of "plot armor". Mistakes made were costly, good planning was thought out. Leaders being competent. The only fault was on the Romulans was try to strike a killing blow on suggestion of young Romulans with no experience instead of leaving to have victory.

[@misanthropichumanist4782]

Grand center of the Empire, population: ~5,000 😂 StarTrek is so under scaled... 😮

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

_In the dark of the night, these shadows created such traumatizing fright. And few things are as difficult to unrust, as broken trust._ Impressive video. Very brutal. Also the Dune parallels now give me more credence in idea that Worf is the Klingon Cincinnatus.

[@TheWoblinGoblin]

Worf is from Cincinnati?

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

@@TheWoblinGoblin ; Cincinnatus was a Roman general who seized power to become the most powerful man in the Roman Republic and after reforming the government and stamping out corruption, freely decided to give up his power and retire. The city of Cincinnati is named after him. Also, Worf grew up in Minsk.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

yeah well if it wasn't for Kithomer and Worf being adopted he would probably not have killed Duras, allowing gowron to become chancellor. or defeated gowron for martok...

[@MrSleepyFox]

Thank you for including Thok'mak. Very much appreciated by this Klingon Academy player. :-)

[@tullyDT]

Even with the months of build up over on Discord (join us if you haven't already) I never could have imagined this would be the end result. This is the Rubicon you've set a very high bar for yourself my friend!

[@RiderofRiddermark]

And I saw a great pair of wings, green and shimmering like an emerald, and they cast a shadow upon the Empire, dark as night, and where the land was touched by the shadow, the trees were set ablaze and all was turned to ash.

[@weldonwin]

Now I see Fire, Inside the mountain, And I see Fire, Burning the trees, And I see Fire, Hollowing souls, And I see Fire, Blood in the breeze...

[@devinsweeting4978]

The pines were roaring on the height, The winds were moaning in the night. The fire was red, it flaming spread; The trees like torches blazed with light.

[@richardched6085]

I'm glad it wasn't just a volley of Disruptor fire as I assumed initially lol. This made the massacre... A massacre... I bet Remans were even used during the Earth Romulan War in much the same way and were identified as not Romulan (As there were still doubts as to what Romulans looked like by 2266 by Starfleet Captains, such information couldn't be hidden for long if even a single Romulan corpse was discovered in the wreckage of a destroyed Warship). This video was a masterpiece. Possibly your best yet! Now I know why Worf despises the Romulans so zealously... And why the Romulans hate the Klingons so passionately that one of their own would rather die than "pollute" themselves with "Klingon Filth" or receive medical treatments using Worf's blood.

[@FrakkinGaiusBaltar]

*WITH ME!* -Final words of Dahar Master Hal'ek, captain of the Life Guards of House Mogh, upon charging a batallion of Reman Shock Troops

[@aiosquadron]

"Troopers! With me! Onwards, yout empire needs you-" (Gets obliterated by a shell falling on thier face.)

[@weldonwin]

(With a disruptor rifle braced with one hand and a Targ-pup tucked into his tunic) *LONG LIVE LORD MOGH!!!*

[@aiosquadron]

@@weldonwin Troopers! Get your shovel, start digging trenches! We're fortifying this place to Gre'thor and back!

[@weldonwin]

@@aiosquadron That's Rogul, son of Dorn

[@tuchehstone]

That was more enthralling thank anything else Trek has manufactured in the past 6 years! I found that I couldn't get enough, even when this tale concluded. 😁😁

[@georgemercer402]

You made a great video, sir and did something that was brought up in the first part of the 2-parter "Redemption" just before closing: "Humans have a way of showing up when you least expect them"

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Where do you think she learned that ;)

[@georgemercer402]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Narendra 3 if memory serves

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

Man that is so messed up that the Tomed Incident would lead to the Kithomer Massacre.

[@joshstarkey203]

As a Romulan fan who supports the Empire, this video is very well done! Thank you for sharing

[@chrissonofpear1384]

I just saw the episode 'The Neutral Zone' the other day - where Worf reminded me the Romulans were seen as Klingon allies, in some respect, at the time. Definitely topical, considering.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

i never intended for this series to be topical. but reality has a habit of outflanking you...

[@fireballstardraco]

I love the way this was told, just listening to it was like a story being told and you tell it so well, but also I am reminded of Dune alittle, the whole betrayal and how the Romulans attacked the city, either way this was such a sheer treat to listen too, thank you for doing these and keeping this oldman entertained and even shedding more light on events in the universe that is Star Trek, bravo

[@Ryselle_Ryssa]

I love the political and miltiary interchange you put on here into the story. Very good! And as always brillantely narrated!

[@ALIKN1-1]

17:56 you can always find the enterprise near the neutral zone……. But this one is doomed to die

[@1kylecurry]

Bravo!...Well done & thank you from a lifelong Star Trek fan.

[@RafaleC77th]

Outstanding video. Glad I got to see it premiere!

[@merafirewing6591]

The Klingon equivalent to the Medway Raid/Surprise Attack on Pearl Harbor, except the Klingons bore the full brunt of it.

[@mattwho81]

Love how you portray the Romulan view that they were the aggrieved party. That they thought the alliance would see them both triumph over the Federation, only to be stabbed in the back. Really played into the hypocritical and underhanded side of the Klingons. How they boast of warrior honour but are all too willing to sell each other out when they think they can get away with it.

[@raymahannah4336]

Very well done! Great story telling! 🙂

[@warrenreid6109]

One of your best efforts. Loved it.

[@tomb7942]

Who actually voted this down? Why? These are the stories that flesh out the ST universe just like the small tidbits we get every night that flesh out our own and put everything into context.

[@artbrann]

Romulan agents, who else

[@aiosquadron]

@@artbrann "Of course... Send them to the airlock, and prepare a firing squad." -Klingons, probably

[@asteropax6469]

@@aiosquadron can we send Wesley with them?

[@jaybonkersbonkers3613]

Really enjoying your work. Would love to see some more videos about the valdor class or the many names it has

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

might revisit it...

[@shanenolan8252]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 if you do , perhaps a battle space episode, / wings of romulus, video suran and denata and shinzon in a major offensive data ( shinzon war record, he found 12 major engagements in the war all victories) a fleet of reman gunships and a moth ball fleet of demossisoned romulan ships like tos bitds of prey or d7 stormbirds . ( cannon fodder) show how the valdors engage the fighters and dederidex the cruisers, as reman ground forces invaded ground targets. Major industrial centres or ship yeards , to build the scimatar . Or you could do a massive build up of them for the battle of cardassia ?

[@chissstardestroyer]

In short: "None of them had any idea that they'd spent their last day alive...".

[@eddierudolph8702]

Another well made video, granted I'm normally a fan of the Klingons. An event like that would force them to take some hard looks at the situation and change whatever they could to make sure it doesn't happen again. They would need to improve their energy production along with other resources, and improve their security and ship designs.

[@brianjohnson5272]

As always VGM a great show.

[@thebashar]

I like how you recolored the shots of the Battle of Arakeen from the Dune movie.

[@williambuchanan77]

Love the bagpipes playing, makes me think of Klingons dressed as Highlanders

[@weldonwin]

Or the Atreides bagpipes from Dune

[@DeaconBlu]

Great vid Mr. Holiday! Well done sir… Well done indeed.

[@vaeloreonari7516]

Well Done! I never imagined it was that devastating.🤕

[@kurdtz]

One of your absolute best.

[@zali13]

This is your best work yet, IMHO. The narration, the voice acting, the graphics- superb! The landing field battle really reminded me of the Battle for Arrakeen from David Lynch's "Dune"(which I loved). Didn't realise you patterned the Reman Night Blades after the recent Dune version of Sardaukar, but that was very neat as well(the Emperor's blades vs the finest soldiers in the Atreides army). All in all, well done! Axios! Now I'm wondering why the Romulans never broke the glass("in the event of war") and released the Remans in their fight against the Dominion, or the Klingons employing their Gorn allies to counter the Remans(or is it too much of a blow to their honour to admit that someone else is actually better and hand-to-hand combat than they are?) ;)

[@jhallam2011]

Marvelous video! Never disappoints!

[@wedgeantillies66]

Oh my word, this was another fantastically awesome and wonderfully brilliant gem of a video. Exquisitely retelling the story of a dark chapter in the history of the klingon empire, showcasing just how vulnerable and divided that an enemy can inflict such a wound upon them. Although it seems to me although the romulan machinations and attack laids the seeds fort the eventual klingon civil war, it also backfires on romulans by pushing Klingons closer to federation and creating conditions for their alliance. So that their revenge achieved actually ended up being a doubled edged sword.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

The klingons were too proud ti approach the federation. It would only be if the federation reached out to the klingons. Which the romulans didn't think was likely

[@wedgeantillies66]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Indeed and makes sense as although their opinion of the Federation is improved by the sacrifice of the enterprise C. They are still a proud warrior race that believes it can survive on its own. Well wouldn't be the first time, the romulans underestimated the federation resolve to help its neighbours to their detriment.

[@LaterMercury823]

I loved this video, thank you for posting for this Thanksgiving. I liked the part of the video of the Vmelak class, hope in the future you someday post a video that tells the difference between the Vmelak class and the model of the IRW Melak that appeared in Star Trek New Worlds and when you used the same model in your past videos with the Klingons Kamarag class. Hope when you do make a video of the IRW Melak you also give its specifications like you did with the Vmelak class. Thanks again and Happy Thanksgiving.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Happy thanksgiving. i hope your guests didn't betray you to the romulans ;) i will do a Shipchat on the Vmelak and its relation to the melak.

[@LaterMercury823]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Thanks and nope all they did is have a good meal with my family and later I went for Black Friday sales, even the Romulans can't say no for lower price on stuff they want to buy.😆

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

@@LaterMercury823 great to hear.

[@Kinepho]

I'd very much like to see a deck by deck done. You've done fantastic work with the Star Trek stuff and I'd love to see more!

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Deck by deck of what?

[@s_i_l_e_n_c_e2164]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 d'deridex maybe?

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done indeed and very well informatively explained and executed as well 👌.

[@haroldchase4120]

Darn fine story telling of the highest order

[@warwolf88]

another amazing job as always venom ive learned more from your videos about star trek then i ever did on my own😊

[@lynngreen7978]

Now, if I recall the details, Narendra III would have happened before Khitomer. Narendra was about 25 years before Farpoint, which fits with Sela's age. But based on Worf's age, Khitomer would have been about 15 years before Farpoint. Edit: checking my books, it looks like about 20 and 18 years respectively. It would have made more sense if they were part of the same offensive.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

yes. and i agree, really they should have happened much closer, personally it would make more sense if Narendra 3 came after the Kithomer massacre.

[@deepstonecostco]

Fantastic writing and great narration

[@donovanbradford8231]

A great video from top to bottom the narration, voice acting, scoring all of it very nicely done. I personally would have loved to have heard how both Jerod and Worf's father dies. Myself I would have had it been in personal combat with Worf's father scoring the killing blow only to have be over run by Reman soliders hence even Duras would never really know was it Romulans or a Klingon that killed his father.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

If jerod even fought. He may have just sat and waited for his just reward.

[@donovanbradford8231]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 lol very true and still he would then had a building fall on his head

[@The_Greedy_Orphan]

3:40, why is my hometown of Inverness a star system? Was that system populated entirely by highland clansmen?

[@SteveKluver]

Very well done. Thank you! 🌞

[@macross.shaeffer3197]

I loved this story please o please keep them coming

[@tyronehamilton588]

Excellent! Great story telling!!

[@andygeorge6065]

SO earned a sub, what a great story!

[@johnn9977]

As always great work!!!!

[@jprice6419]

Outstanding..Like a Famer in his field Perfect job

[@terranadmiral6758]

This was great episode the Romulan voice actors actually sounded like Romulans from the show

[@dragonman9084]

Even the one that was trying to sound like an old man and then sound like he was trying to deepthroat the mic

[@QalOrt]

Love the Dune vibe, especially since Michael Dorn was in Emperor Battle for Dune as the Duke

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Didn't know that. Cool.

[@davidschlienz9395]

Once again, Well done!

[@nopenope5812]

Excellent as always!

[@weldonwin]

It's a small thing, but one of those things I think about... Klingon Mead. I mean, considering that Mead is fermented honey and most things of the Klingon homeworld are big a ferocious, I shudder to imagine what terrifying monster produces they honey that Klingons make Mead from...

[@richardarriaga6271]

Probably the thing that killed the previous crews of the Planet Express

[@cryptohivemind205]

This was very well made sir

[@AgentOroko]

Just found this channel. New Sub earned!

[@shanenolan8252]

Wonderful work as usual,

[@stephenfarthing3819]

The nearest Federation Starship was the Excelsior Class USS Fearless. Even so - the ship was on the edge of sensor range. If I recall correctly - that's what Data and LaForge described some 20 years or so later!

[@stephenfarthing3819]

I mean - USS Intrepid! Sorry about that everyone!

[@bigevil1001]

You've outdone yourself this time. I was only sad that it was over.

[@guillermomartinez1752]

Absolutely fantastic job Venom, this video is your best one yet. In terms of combat prowess, wich ones are better: Romulans or Remans? what's your take on it?

[@eddierudolph8702]

You are comparing apples to oranges there, the Romulans army prides itself on it professionalism and general skill. While the Remans are more brutal and savage in their fighting skills plus they have great night vision. It's like comparing an Roman legionnaire to a Germanic warrior from the 1st century AD.

[@guillermomartinez1752]

@@eddierudolph8702 but even when comparing a roman legionnaire to a germanic warrior we are able to say who was better at what. In that particular case you're comparing a soldier to a warrior, the roman being well equiped (germanic nobles would have similar kit tho) and trained to coordinate with their unit (also being quite effective as a singular unit) while the germanic warrior has no training other than experience in coordinated battles while being agressive and in the case of the germans a warrior culture that pushed them to the extreme Romulans and remans can be explored in a similar fashion, trying to understand how they fight and the tactics they may use. This could also tell us how they would fare fighting each other.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

i mean 1V1? probably a Romulan Sk'Tari. but when you crank up the numbers, thats where the remans start to shine.

[@Wildcard120]

Well done as always.

[@IronMan-kz8tg]

Klingons are like wolves , just stay away from them but never take your gaze off of them .

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

'While the Federation and the Klingons had been at peace for 50 years neither the Romulans nor the Klingons expected Stafleet to stick their necks out for them' man hearing that was shocking as it was mentioned by Lt. Richard Castillo the helmsman of the Enterprise C that the Federation and the Klingon Empire were in the middle of another peace treaty by the time of the Nerendra 3 battle so it made sense that the Enterprise C which was the Federation Flagship would respond to a distress call for help from a Future Federation ally and the sacrifice and deaths and destruction of the ship and it's crew led to that alliance of the Federation and the Klingon Empire as stated by Lt. Commander Data of the Battleship Enterprise D of an alternate future where the Federation and the Klingon Empire were in the middle of a decades long war 'The Klingons consider honor above all else if the crew of the Enterprise C had died defending a Klingon outpost it would be considered a meaningful act of honor by the Klingon Empire'.

[@Wedgekree]

Wow, this is among your best. Brutal. And totally one sided.

[@birdmonster4586]

Impressive. Very well done.

[@lucasbachmann]

Using very WWII Japanese logic (where they apparently thought the Pearl Harbor attack / wake up slap would ultimately force the US to choose old friend Japan over an unthinkable Soviet alliance...) the Romulan logic may have been the easiest way to keep the Federation out would be the chaos of war as they wouldn't get involved. And the klingons would then default back to Romulus. The Klingons are just a loose collection of houses so its not hard to play them against each other.

[@yournamehere4171]

Nice video and well put together.... but you misspelled Khitomer tho.

[@Thoralmir]

My headcannon says that Klingon interference was why Spock ended up too late to save Romulus.

[@weldonwin]

WITH ME?!? - Gurney, Son of Halleck at the last charge of the Khitomer Guard

[@Emanon...]

*Khitomer Besides that, brilliant video.

[@wickedcircle]

so lovely! I love the Romulans.

[@theamazingmarlbito6293]

god damn man. I love these videos

[@dragonman9084]

I riley liked the video almost all the voice actres were perfect Except for the tal-shar actor I had to turn subtitles on just to know what he was saying

[@doctheperfectfaceforradio6022]

Well done Venom Geek Media 98

[@josephsteven1600]

Amazing job Venom

[@IronMan-kz8tg]

I SMELL ROMULANS ! ? ARE YOU WITH THE GGM ? Galactic Gaming Mafia .

[@ATrainGames]

Nicely done!

[@donovanporter4545]

It was the klingon version of pearl harbor

[@augustusclaudiusvenorius6292]

Brilliant.

[@pandaphil]

I'm surprised the Klingons didn't immediately declare war on the Romulans.

[@rconway1357]

Thanks for the backstory. Very interesting. I always wondered why the Romulan's attacked.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

1:50 In the foreground is that a Romulan bird of prey with some sort of gun pod attachment? If so, that's pretty neat! It could also be some other kind of vessel, but I know in human history we have attached additional non-ordinance weapon systems to aircraft.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Yeah the Winged Defender.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

@@venomgeekmedia9886 Neat!

[@Persian-Immortal]

Brilliant, thank you. I see the Ukraine flag in the video too!

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

Where was that?

[@Persian-Immortal]

19:22. When you talk about Mogh's house soldiers parades on the planet. Can't tell if blue is on the bottom or on the top.

[@Victor-bl2ge]

25:27 "ACCESS......GRANTED TO-YOUR-CITY!"

[@Turd_Ferguson538]

Whoever did the voice for Colonel P of the Tal-Shiar needs to quit mumbling. I could barely understand them. Aside from that outstanding video as always!

[@zali13]

"Feng Tao"- head shake, a.k.a rave

[@ExiledPiasa]

Awesome storyline!

[@haakonstenseth]

Well done and said ☺

[@shanenolan8252]

The shields down bed security reminds me alof duke leto in dune ( in a good way ). Edit ( you credited frank hurbert) nice

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

yeah it was kinda the point ;)

[@toddkurzbard]

5 dislikes were from Romulans.

[@jolan_tru]

Hey, I liked it well enough.

[@dragonman9084]

It was probably because of the terrible voice actor for the Romulan agent

[@pdbouie]

Sneaky little bastard those Rihannsu. But of course there are certain Klingon "urwi ha'dibah" that are no better.

[@anathardayaldar]

Why bagpipes for the Skitari? They started playing when they were mentioned.

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

They also played as the klingons charged the remans it represents the warriors of house Mogh

[@charliedontsurf334]

They need to hire you in the writer’s room at Paramount.

[@LKaramazov]

No doubt. What they’ve been producing lately is garbage at best. I want to see these stories, if they’re gonna do prequels!

[@donchichivagabond1578]

He doesn't promote "THE MESSAGE!" so he wouldn't fit in over there.

[@jolan_tru]

@@donchichivagabond1578 What message...?

[@donchichivagabond1578]

@@jolan_tru characters have to be of minority origin, part of the alphabet community, white men evil, down with the patriarchy and western society is also evil. THE MESSAGE!

[@jolan_tru]

@@donchichivagabond1578 Ahhh, now I get what kind of person you are. MAGA! Trump For Emperor! God bless you, Christian warrior, and I wish you safety from the dreaded RAINBOW!!! Stay safe.

[@james27617]

Are we ever going to see a completion of the Dominion War

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

soon...

[@brianlindee4397]

Same thing happened to Duke Leto atradies from dune these Klingons should have had weapons in orbit

[@donchichivagabond1578]

I really want to see those Romulans pay for this slaughter!

[@venomgeekmedia9886]

you may be disappointed...

[@richardarriaga6271]

The Vulcans got the revenge for them in the most passive-aggressive way, letting a sun explode and stopping the one who actually tried to save them.