British guitarist analyses Jeff Lynne's stripped back performance!

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Wings of Pegasus

Wings of Pegasus

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@lauraallen55
@lauraallen55 Жыл бұрын
I knew exactly where the flip to head voice was going to be because I know the song inside out (well how it sounds at least). I love that you pointed it out and explained it! Jeff did this in several songs like Confusion, Summer and Lightning, Rockaria, Shangri-La and Telephone Line(a lot in the last two- very impressive and gives the songs a melancholy) and others. I think it serves the songs well when he chooses to do it. He has great instincts it seems. I love classic and other rock and other genres as much as anyone but ELO/Jeff Lynne has a special place in my heart. It's endlessly fascinating to me to watch someone play a guitar, especially when they're explaining what they're doing. I'm watching lots of yours now, of course, but I've watched hours and hours of others play, like SRV, EVH and others teaching some riff or another. Never played a single note. Watch I won't ever be able to either. Hah! Needless to say, this was very interesting to see you play and explain what Jeff's doing. Thanks, Fil!
@deborahfollowscornell9007
@deborahfollowscornell9007 3 жыл бұрын
The way he splits his voice into 3 tones,I love this guy.
@kathleenschultz1519
@kathleenschultz1519 2 жыл бұрын
I saw him with ELO and Dhani Harrison in July, 2019. My husband was never a big fan but he became one that night. What an amazing talent he is; singer, songwriter, producer, etc.! What a great concert! Thanks for featuring him.
@dianeswanson5948
@dianeswanson5948 3 жыл бұрын
All respect to the great Jeff Lynne. Thanks for the analysis!
@kathryntreadway6647
@kathryntreadway6647 3 жыл бұрын
Glorious! My favorite group.
@urasam2
@urasam2 2 жыл бұрын
Since the 2000s Jeff has recorded his vocals largely dry, which sounds so much better than reverb drenched sound he used in the 80s. Why he has not been knighted is beyond me. Thanks for this great video, Fil!
@richardyoung4616
@richardyoung4616 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fil for covering Jeff, he is one of a kind as you are.
@dalem8332
@dalem8332 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne is phenomenal! Singer Songwriter guitarist producer extraordinaire! The entire package. Had the pleasure of seeing ELO in the late 70s the Out Of The Blue tour. Incredible show with Meatloaf as the opening act. Been a HUGE fan since the first ELO album. This was a great stripped down performance from the Master! Spot on analysis and great demo Fil as always! 🎼🎶🎵🇨🇦🇨🇦
@johnatyoutube
@johnatyoutube 4 ай бұрын
I've always felt that Jeff Lynne was the 5th and best Beetle. He was smart to stay out of the limelight and focus on making music. And he kept on creating beautiful magical music long after they collapsed and fell into disillusionment. His music is raptorous and uplifting like none other - a wall of vibration that moves through you. He knows how to make some very special strange magic!
@HarrierMan99
@HarrierMan99 5 ай бұрын
I'm a little late to this one, but it was worth the wait. My favorite artist by far, Jeff Lynne is a musical force to be reckoned with. Tom Petty called him "the best overall musician I've ever met." That's high praise. Great analysis, Fil!
@JoeScottish
@JoeScottish 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne: the legend....underappreciated, but he's still there and you cant get rid of him, his music and production is everywhere
@wayne1074
@wayne1074 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne is one of the greatest singers of the 70's. His vocal range is amazing with clarity. Thank you Fil for covering Jeff.
@suzielynne9421
@suzielynne9421 3 жыл бұрын
The changes in Jeff's vocal range alone is stunning ❤️
@professorp2721
@professorp2721 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne is a living legend, period.
@JohnCoughlan1
@JohnCoughlan1 2 жыл бұрын
Saw him live Sept 2018 in Copenhagen. Just amazing. Had waited nearly 40 years to see him live. Mr mELOdic.
@jillwright8993
@jillwright8993 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was enjoyable. Thanks for this great analysis. Jeff Lynne is a favorite. Thanks Fil.
@trishbresolin8212
@trishbresolin8212 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis Fil. Love Jeff 👍
@angusgallagher6130
@angusgallagher6130 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and great channel! You have great musical knowledge and explain things in an easy to understand way. You rock Bro
@davitofarito
@davitofarito 3 жыл бұрын
I particularly like the versions of "Telephone Line" and "Can't Get It Out Of My Head" from this session. While it's nice to hear it stripped down with just the Piano and guitar, I think the real revelation here is Jeff's voice. It is right on the money with no studio trickery needed.
@linus98765
@linus98765 3 жыл бұрын
Steppin' Out is another great version.
@SirOliverNorwell
@SirOliverNorwell 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great analysis, especially of Jeff's singing (guitar playing as well, of course). So thanks for that. Jeff's always been my fav vocalist. That voice! So pleasant to listen to. Tom Petty once said that Jeff Lynne is the greatest overall musician he ever encountered. Thanks a lot and Cheers from Germany.
@nat2040
@nat2040 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing super talent Jeff is magnificent performance 👏🏽
@karlkascha1261
@karlkascha1261 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne is an amazing singer, musician, and composer. He also hasn't aged in 40 years. He's got to be about 65yo in that video. Coincidence? Another great analysis Fil. I like your demo portion on the guitar.
@linus98765
@linus98765 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis Fil! Wonderful to see Jeff's talent appreciated. Hope you can have more ELO reactions.
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 3 жыл бұрын
I have a few here somewhere! 🙂
@andythrush3341
@andythrush3341 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Fil! What a beautiful version of this song. As always, great job breaking it down.
@zolar55
@zolar55 3 жыл бұрын
Saw ELO last year....best concert I ever saw....after one of the songs I realized everyone around me was crying including me...
@mrsbluesky9750
@mrsbluesky9750 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way Jeff can 'flip' his voice! Bet he can yodel! Everyway you take him he's THE BEST! Thank you for your intuitive observations Fil. 🙏👍
@89goldtop
@89goldtop 7 ай бұрын
Like on Don't Bring Me Down.
@sunshinebaxter9119
@sunshinebaxter9119 8 ай бұрын
What more can you say about this guy he's freaking perfecto❤
@suehollar2578
@suehollar2578 3 жыл бұрын
ELO was a favorite of mine in High School. When Jeff Lynne was in the Traveling Wilburys I became an even bigger fan. Rawk!
@virginiaribis2070
@virginiaribis2070 2 жыл бұрын
He sounds beautiful.When I first heard him in my early 20’s I was mesmerized,I found myself singing all of their songs. Now at 67 I still love them but my teenage granddaughter has also feel under the spell and sings their songs. Got to respect certain musicians, they really put out masterpieces.😊❤
@virginiaribis2070
@virginiaribis2070 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I seen them in person. ♥️
@virginiaribis2070
@virginiaribis2070 2 жыл бұрын
In the 70’s
@caterinalofaro6831
@caterinalofaro6831 Жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne Lord of music♥️
@sarahloughlin3724
@sarahloughlin3724 Жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne is phenomenal!
@markmiwurdz202
@markmiwurdz202 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your analysis Fil. The first ELO track that really got me listening was "Can't Get It Out Of My Head" from way back in the last century. Jeff Lynne's approach to music is just the whole package. If you really want to appreciate how good the man is at his craft, just play his "Concerto For A Rainy Day" (which is four songs and includes "Mr. Blue Sky") from ELO's album "Out Of The Blue". I think it is side 3 of the vinyl double album. And listen with headphones to get the full effect of Jeff's production work. Jeff has worked with some of the best in the business including Tom Petty, Travelling Wilburys etc. He leaves his musical "thumbprint" on all the projects he works on. He also worked with Joe Walsh on Joe's last solo album "Analog Man". Great analysis Fil! Stay safe and well.
@latrelleodom9484
@latrelleodom9484 3 жыл бұрын
The Best ... Jeff Lynne Has all the talent!
@Xplantdad
@Xplantdad 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne is amazing. Thanks for the great analysis video, Fil!!
@lieslwindjulie3230
@lieslwindjulie3230 3 жыл бұрын
ELO, Fil! 🙃 Wonderful song ☺️ Love Jeff Lynn. He's such a talented man! Thanks for another fantastic Live Analysis 🖤🤘🏽
@lieslwindjulie3230
@lieslwindjulie3230 3 жыл бұрын
Oops! I beg your pardon, Mr Lynne with an 'e'. 😳
@michaelbrowne541
@michaelbrowne541 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid ,ELO was one of my favorite bands.. Along with Kansas. I remember buying out of the blue.. And playing the hell out of it... On vinyl.. Jeff Lynne is an amazing songwriter.. And has always been one of my favorite voices in music.. Although to me he is very similar to George Harrison from beetles.. which isn't a bad thing... And the live shows hes done in recent years ,, Show his voice is still great.
@cindypowers4993
@cindypowers4993 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff's voice is the instrument along with the piano that makes the song. I loved ELO's "Strange Magic" & Evil Woman". And who can forget his work in the Traveling Wilburys with all those 'other' famous guys!!👍
@lindacarlton3154
@lindacarlton3154 3 жыл бұрын
Or Telephone Line, Mr. Blue Sky, All Over the World...all brilliant!
@cindypowers4993
@cindypowers4993 3 жыл бұрын
@@lindacarlton3154 Yes Linda, so many great songs! As I read the songs you listed, I could hear them playing in my head 🎶🎶🎶👍😊
@cindypowers4993
@cindypowers4993 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianwhittington5086 Wow! Did not know that.👍😊
@beatlessteve1010
@beatlessteve1010 3 жыл бұрын
This song really touches the heart it's so dreamy...just inspires imagination..and nobody has a more soothing voice...and great song writer..there is a similar sound in Seals "kiss from a rose" I believe is the tune...but the singing is similar
@TorToroPorco
@TorToroPorco 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciated the subtleties that Fil pointed out in the guitar. The piano was so beautiful I forgot all about the guitar.
@tullfan2560
@tullfan2560 3 жыл бұрын
The piano was the star in that performance, for sure.
@markmiwurdz202
@markmiwurdz202 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Somewhere in the sleevenotes and credits on the ELO albums Jeff Lynne acknowledges "the magic fingers of Richard Tandy".
@elizabethspedding1975
@elizabethspedding1975 3 жыл бұрын
Such wonderful talent giving pleasure to so many.🎶🎸🎶
@garrymacantanaiste575
@garrymacantanaiste575 6 ай бұрын
You really know your stuff. I loved this. Thank you. I am practicing "Telephone Line" for an upcoming Open Mic. he really is brilliant.
@drewpall2598
@drewpall2598 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown as always Fil, I remember Jeff Lynne from "Electric Light Orchestra" this was a very nice performance from the two guys.
@readtheinstructions1407
@readtheinstructions1407 3 жыл бұрын
Such a memorable song.
@CaseyMoo1
@CaseyMoo1 18 күн бұрын
So glad you did this one. Kudos to the late Richard Randy. Jeff Lynne. One of the most unique vocalists as well as the Greatest producer ever. Magical.
@chronomatt6990
@chronomatt6990 2 жыл бұрын
It seems the guitar is being used for rhythm. Jeff is God Tier talent. I love these stripped down versions. They show off why he’s just been selected to join the Songwriters Hall Of Fame in 2023.
@lelleithmurray235
@lelleithmurray235 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would enjoy a stripped down version of Strange Magic. Nice! As always,well done analysis Fil!
@marilynsheffield612
@marilynsheffield612 3 жыл бұрын
Morning/aftertoon Fil. Great Analysis👏. I do love the piano😍. Love his voice. Oh Fil you would do this song justice! Have a great day!❤
@stardust_memories2260
@stardust_memories2260 3 жыл бұрын
Someone should sign that guy he's pretty good
@lorellstoneman74
@lorellstoneman74 3 жыл бұрын
His vocal abilities remind me of his friend, Roy O's, soft yet sweet vocals, that make it look easy, but it's not.......Unique piano cords (like the piano cords in China grove)..oriental sound.....this was a sweet, interesting striped down find...Jeff's still got it. Thanks Fil, well done!
@freespiritwithnature4384
@freespiritwithnature4384 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully Done .
@54lespaul77
@54lespaul77 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite voices 👍👍🤘
@DanielinLaTuna
@DanielinLaTuna 7 ай бұрын
Fil. I love the way a good performance puts you in a state of hypnosis. Occasionally you break out of that place (are you communing with the Muses?) with a smile on your face 😊
@JeffLynnesELO2025Tour
@JeffLynnesELO2025Tour 2 жыл бұрын
Fil like it was said before in a previous comment...Jeff did this dry in his living room and you don't hear the guitar because Jeff wanted Richard's Piano playing to be the only instrument you hear with his superb voice. In this clip Jeff used his guitar simply as a prop. This was not an official recording. It was made for a documentary about the life of Jeff Lynne by the BCC...Shot in 2012 at his house in LA. Well done mate!
@195511SM
@195511SM 3 жыл бұрын
A few months ago I saw him do 'Telephone Line'. I think it was from this same concert.
@AdAstraOnYafro
@AdAstraOnYafro 3 ай бұрын
I have a copy of this entire performance on every device I own. Love Jeff, love Richard . Just listen this is the heart and soul of ELO. I listen to this shoe over and over
@lauraallen55
@lauraallen55 Жыл бұрын
Oh, thought you'd like to know: I don't know guitar cords (only piano) but you said you hoped it made sense showing what Jeff was playing and it made sense even to me. You're very good! :)
@anneverebely3033
@anneverebely3033 11 ай бұрын
He did several acoustic versions of his songs - they are all on KZbin - he has a studio in his house …isn’t that where this is?
@jamesloughran7278
@jamesloughran7278 3 жыл бұрын
What amazes me is how much he has accomplished even though he can't read music.
@fabfour7397
@fabfour7397 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff wanted Richard's piano playing to be the main feature with his singing. He used his guitar just as a prop (something to hold on to)... This was performed in his living room in LA and was not meant to be recorded. It was shot for the brilliant 2012 BBC Documentary Mr. Blue Sky: "The Story Of Jeff Lynne". Jeff Lynne is a fantastic singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist and producer, he will be 74 this December 30th, 2021. Amazing!
@fishhookism
@fishhookism 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff's last album was great as well. Very melodic.
@bernardofitzpatrick5403
@bernardofitzpatrick5403 3 жыл бұрын
👍great voice. Dope analysis.
@trevor4382
@trevor4382 8 ай бұрын
R.I.P RICHARD TANDY
@lhpl
@lhpl 3 жыл бұрын
I am not a musician, but for some reason, when you demonstrate the chords, they remind me of Pink Floyd, wonder why. Anyway, the videos of Jeff and Richard clearly show one thing: if you strip ELO of both the orchestra and the electric, it doesn't diminish the songs or lessen them in any significant way: what remains is just pure bright light.
@timemerich
@timemerich 2 жыл бұрын
great analysis, thank you! man, if you really want to hear Jeff's vocals flip, check out his band before he joined The Move called The Idle Race. some songs to note 'Please No More Sad Songs', Mr. Crow and Sir Norman', 'On with the Show'. also loved the Live Roy Wood and ELO breakdown. i was very lucky to see Woody live 4 nights in a row in NYC in 2002 with some good friends. I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day proofs to be amazing 4 days in a row, even in the middle of March!
@22pcirish
@22pcirish 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff saved his voice by spending more than 20 Years NOT performing live and thrashing his voice in concert. Few singers in their 70,s can sing they way they sang in the past!
@sarahloughlin3724
@sarahloughlin3724 Жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne is now 75 yrs old and he still has the most beautiful and unique vocals.
@DanFamSistah
@DanFamSistah Жыл бұрын
LOVE this. You need to analyze live performances of Dan Fogelberg. Dan, like Jeff, TOURED sometimes with just a guitar and a piano. It's all he needed too. He was just amazing.
@carolinaibarramendoza7502
@carolinaibarramendoza7502 Жыл бұрын
si hay un músico al que admiro terriblemente , es a mister Jeff Lynne
@gumusluk05
@gumusluk05 3 жыл бұрын
The 5th Beatle 😎
@martymasden2737
@martymasden2737 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great music they lesson, which I learned during my voice coaching, wow so coooollllll. Thanks Fil😉👍💟
@drewpall2598
@drewpall2598 3 жыл бұрын
Came back for a second helping of your analysis Fil. 👍
@theokayboomer9745
@theokayboomer9745 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever analyze the Hollies' "Look Through Any Window"? If you haven't and you do, try listening with the right channel off. Early days of stereo recording, all the vocals are on the right, all the instruments on the left. Even without vocals, the music track is amazing. Drums and bass so tight, overall feel amazing. And the recording - amazing considering how it would have been miked and on what it would have been recorded.
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 3 жыл бұрын
Not yet!
@donstewart6000
@donstewart6000 3 жыл бұрын
I love this Jefferson is My cosmic soul Bro!! 😁🙌🎵🎚🎛🎤🎧🎶🎸 Hes A Master Songwriter 👏 There's only a small handful of people in my book that could surpass or just be as good as the Beatles Jeff is in theat select small Catagory My Favorite Album is Time by ELO It gets no credit it deserves but to me it does 😊🎶🎧🎤🎸 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🎶🚀🛸
@PaulOutdoors
@PaulOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne is a gift from the divine and yes, Time is phenomenal 👍😊
@daveklato6888
@daveklato6888 3 жыл бұрын
During the musical intro and after each verse try using the F shaped G, for 2 bar's of G 4 beats to C min 4 beats alternately then when the vocal's start change to G to G Augmented triad on the high strings, for the run down use your pinky to sus the note leading to what I call F6 to E min. For the ending play out the same as the intro. I hope it makes sense to you.
@chefblanc
@chefblanc 3 жыл бұрын
brilliant stuff , spent a the week learning /listening to this..not quite there with the vocal yet ;=]
@LednacekZ
@LednacekZ 3 жыл бұрын
have you reacted to the travelling wilburys. i would love to hear about them.
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 3 жыл бұрын
Yes 🙂
@njmcd
@njmcd 3 жыл бұрын
Head voice and falsetto can be so confusing. Thanks for pointing out the difference 👍 👌
@karrararra4820
@karrararra4820 3 жыл бұрын
Its a nice song
@Spacebeagle
@Spacebeagle Ай бұрын
I enjoyed this analysis which does not mean I understood the whole thing but at least I got an idea. Cheers!
@PBTophie
@PBTophie Жыл бұрын
They're actually tuned to 455Hz in this entire session. I've been trying to find out why. In no other Jeff Lynne recording do I find him playing in anything other than 440. My only theory here is that the great composers, like Beethoven, tuned to 455; a 1/4 step up from 440 (remember 440 is quite modern). Perhaps the piano was tuned thereto, and tuning a guitar is easier than tuning a piano. Or maybe the recording was accidentally sped up somehow. I don't know, but it is DEFINITELY in A=455Hz. No capo necessary. I didn't watch the full video. Maybe you covered this. I've just been trying to find out why the Bungalow session was in 455.
@daveklato6888
@daveklato6888 3 жыл бұрын
The cord after G shape try G augmented triad chord
@Xplantdad
@Xplantdad 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Fil, what about doing an analysis video of Randy Jackson/Zebra on Who's behind the Door-? I love how the 12 string rings out on that song and Randy's voice still sounds respectable even now! :)
@maggiemae7539
@maggiemae7539 3 жыл бұрын
You have gorgeous hair. What shampoo and conditioner do you use
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 3 жыл бұрын
I just use Alpecin shampoo, that's it 😂
@河本グリコ
@河本グリコ 3 жыл бұрын
Nice choice...! from JAPAN
@graemerobertson5160
@graemerobertson5160 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch the whole set Jeff's vocal is superb, but he might as well have not bothered with the acoustic. The condensor mic was not made proper use of. If you watch his strumming it isn't clean regular sweeps across all the strings but more like partial nibbles across 2 or 3 strings. He does this on stage too, barely playing acoustic or electric. He even changed the key of showdown from C min to A min. I don't think he likes playing bar chords.
@karrararra4820
@karrararra4820 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I did va have a great day
@xxxxyz854
@xxxxyz854 3 жыл бұрын
English yodeling, lillill, layeeeoooohhhh, govner! Nice explanation Fil.
@nothavinitanymore
@nothavinitanymore 3 жыл бұрын
Had tickets to see this genius last year; cancelled due to Covid....grrrrrrr
@cindypowers4993
@cindypowers4993 3 жыл бұрын
Bummer!!
@tinaramone6615
@tinaramone6615 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@daves2058
@daves2058 3 жыл бұрын
I like your reaction videos. Have you ever done a video on Jona Lewie's "you'll always find me in the kitchen at parties", I would love to see your reaction to that incredibly catchy tune!
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 3 жыл бұрын
Not yet!
@daves2058
@daves2058 3 жыл бұрын
@@wingsofpegasus looking forward to it.... hopefully....... weirdly fascinating song!
@jporter504
@jporter504 3 жыл бұрын
Has Jeff Lynne been inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame yet? If not, what a shame.
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 3 жыл бұрын
If he's not I'd be very surprised!
@SirOliverNorwell
@SirOliverNorwell 3 жыл бұрын
He was nominated five or six times since 2013 and hasn't been elected yet as far as I have noticed. Morons! (Sorry).
@lorihaun9956
@lorihaun9956 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he is in the RRHOF, thanks to the perseverance of a few of us fans who kept voting for him til he was number 1! 😁
@graemerobertson5160
@graemerobertson5160 3 жыл бұрын
Compare this with below: I suspect Jeff had a trebly chorus effect on the acoustic but only used it in parts of the song.
@gory6427
@gory6427 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do pops staples
@thumpervv
@thumpervv 3 жыл бұрын
please do a look at ANGLINA JORDAN see what see does to a song
@anneverebely3033
@anneverebely3033 11 ай бұрын
Yes he has
@oobrocks
@oobrocks 3 жыл бұрын
Fil tops me in music knowledge and I'm not bad either!
@avlisk
@avlisk 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of live, I just found this live concert by The Weeklings (never heard of them before). I hope you enjoy it as much as I: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6m1aX93jJd4f7s
@jdgiamario
@jdgiamario 3 жыл бұрын
Fil....one day please analyse something from the Searchers...Early Searchers.
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 3 жыл бұрын
Already out here somewhere!
@jdgiamario
@jdgiamario 3 жыл бұрын
@@wingsofpegasus I missed it! Did not see it on your playlists....I will look again....love your wide range of knowledge. Ever check out "The Church"?
@graemerobertson5160
@graemerobertson5160 3 жыл бұрын
Compare his strumming in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGqvi4OdgLpkh9U
@DanFamSistah
@DanFamSistah Жыл бұрын
Jeff Lynne is my boyfriend. Shhhhh. Don't tell Lenny Kravitz.
@frankanderson3503
@frankanderson3503 3 жыл бұрын
This was not showing Jeffs ability on guitar
@keithporteous9281
@keithporteous9281 3 ай бұрын
Such a confusing explanation. You start by naming the chords by their shape, with the first fret capo, and then for no reason, you refer to them by what they actually are. (G/Aflat for example) There is a much simpler way to go through the changes.
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