WINKELHOCK'S RECORD-SETTING RACE! The Story of the 2007 European Grand Prix

[@dublin4liammccarthy]

That screaming match between Massa and Alonso...conducted in full flow in Italian, their third language I think. Hats off lads👏

[@janiandelin93]

Italian is the second language I believe. I'm sure both of them speak better Italian than English

[@NathanIrizarry1]

@@janiandelin93 makes sense, they’re all Romance languages. Spanish in particular has a lot of similarities with Italian.

[@almeidaariel9]

​@@janiandelin93maybe, but maybe not, I don't know from a Spanish perspective, but from Portuguese, Italian is WAY different, unless you have classes for both English and Italian, it's easier to understand english just because is more often taught than Italian. Portuguese-Spanish is way closer both speaking and writing, I'm Brazilian and couldn't write this comment in italian

[@miguelcebriancarrasco1907]

@@NathanIrizarry1 similarities, I´m spanish and italian is pretty close, portuguese is very different tho, so I supposse its more difficult for massa

[@matthiascerebri3315]

Vinci e dici una cosa cosi

[@therealf.b.i9468]

Fun fact: Marcus is now racing in TSS Thailand Super Series with Bquik as a special driver as he is Audi factory driver and he's doing pretty well here couple of podium and wins

[@potatogirlcultist19]

That fuel burn rule in qualifying is a certified 'net zero' moment.

[@marcelf0252]

Winkelhock? More like Winkel-ROCK! MASTER OF THE STRATEGY! #NOONECANBREAKTHEWINKELROCK

[@lxcien4867]

Man i miss MSTF1

[@Adam-dm7lc]

I was wondering if anyone apart from myself remembered MSTF1😅

[@marcelf0252]

He was one of the best😂🤌🏻

[@SteffenT1981]

I remember this race very well. Here in Germany we had this kind of weather with sudden rain followed by bright sunshine for most of the summer until that point. For the whole formation lap I expected it to start raining. When I saw Winkelhock going into the pits I immediatly recalled Mansell and Nannini pitting at Montreal in 1989 before the start. "Sure, he has nothing to loose!" It's one of my favourite memories watching F1 on TV.

[@attilatabanyi3275]

I remeber having seen it first time in 2008 around the black forest. Snowfall for morning, sunshine and warm weather afterwards, the ice storm, then heatwave, then lunch in the sunshine.

[@charamia9402]

Absolutely love this race! The stories that came out of it are brilliant. Didn’t know until now that was when a Brazilian and a Spaniard argued in fluent Italian, that just adds to it for me. The foreshadowing from Brundle though, that's just pure ick.

[@deknegt]

The worst part of the foreshadowing was that it wasn't even Brundle's first time where he voiced reservations about telehandlers being out on a live track. It's the ultimate "I hate that I had to be right" kind of moment for Brundle, one that made perfect sense but nobody acted upon until somebody had to die because of negligence that could've easily been prevented.

[@cornishcat11]

@@deknegt charlie was always more for keeping the show going than safety and it cost dearly

[@terminateshere]

One of the few feel-good moments from that season - it wasn't a good year for the small teams at all. Was visiting my parents and watched the race whilst my dad was out in the garden. Went for a chat during the red flag, he asked "Who was leading?". When I said "Winkelhock", he looked at me like it was vaguely familiar - as it happened, we saw Uncle Jo do the BTCC at Brands Hatch back in the 1990s.

[@GWFires]

Legends says (As reported in the german Auto Motorsport issue) : Winkelhock was called by a friend right before the start. His friend was close to Nürburg and it started to rain heavy there. Based on that call he decided to pit for full wets, right before the start. Yes before the start on the formation lap ! Most drivers only pit for inter tyres, which led combined with the heavy rain to all those DNF´s. And also the red flag.

[@AutoRockinRacing94]

Never forget seeing this unfolded in the SPEED broadcast where Bob Varsha pointed out how Winkelhock's efforts was a first.

[@AidanMillward]

As with the Ide video: Use the other guy's car and hope no one notices!

[@simontravers2715]

That Massa v Alonso argument was like something out of a Visual Novel video game (like Danganronpa)

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

Brundle's quote actually came to mind on hearing what happened to Jules. Even back then I'd seen the clip often enough (as well as the race - both races - live) for it to stick with me. You putting it up just made my blood run cold. No complaints btw. Things like this should never be forgotten. Great video, btw. Re Perez, for anyone who doesn't know, apparently the rule is, just as in WEC, that if you can drive the car back to the garage, you can rejoin when the car is fixed (remember Spa '98, DC...) It's not Red Bull's fault that the penalty came after he'd retired initially (the penalty was definitely deserved though. WTF was he on yesterday!?) In fact I think that using that rule - after checking with the stewards or FIA rep (whoever has the rule book) that it would stick - was a stroke of genius, or else he'd have had a 3 place grid drop on Qatar. The only whiners are those teams who hadn't thought to do that in the past. Of course that loophole is going to be closed. Using loopholes is exactly what F1 is all about. The double diffuser, Schumacher's taking of the penalty in the pit lane (though as a Damon fangirl, I've always called that one dodgy. Frankly, I still don't understand how it worked as his pit was past the finish line, wasn't it? So he'd completed the race before taking the penalty. How was that right!?), Senna's Donington pit lane shortcut, Mercedes' DAS, etc etc etc. Every team looks for these loopholes to exploit in the hopes that they'll be _the_ difference the car's needed. None of them should have the bare-faced cheek to complain about RB doing what they wish they could have thought of years ago.

[@simontravers2715]

2nd time I’m requesting, video on Maurice Trintignant (Trin-Tin-Yon) F1 career: 1950-1964, my most underrated F1 driver ever. Merci Aidan

[@harrypreece6680]

My abiding memory of that race was going back to listen to it years later when I realised Murray Walker stood in and did the radio commentary that day

[@lxcien4867]

NO ONE CAN BRAKE THE WINKELROCK!!

[@simontravers2715]

Max: Hey Adrian (Newey) I did it!

[@chlcrk]

Master of strategy and just an all-round clever fella

[@apilolomi]

This sounds familiar. Where is the phrase from?

[@lxcien4867]

@@apilolomi A youtuber called Mystery Science theatre F1

[@Xiphactinus]

@@apilolomiMSTF1

[@Rosario_Verano]

#NoOneCanBreakTheWinkelRock !!!

[@Adam-dm7lc]

I was wondering if anyone apart from myself remembered MSTF1😅

[@declanthomas7159]

​@@Adam-dm7lcmore people than you think

[@Adam-dm7lc]

@@declanthomas7159 it appears so😅

[@LuminalSpoon]

Still miss MSTF1...

[@Ramtamtama]

missed a trick not using "We Will Hock You" on the titlecard

[@shaun_sharlev]

That FA vs FM bit was gold. Thank u❤

[@superduperbooper3987]

Not every race can be a classic, just like how Shawn Michaels never got a cheer in Montreal

[@simontravers2715]

Now why’ve i got the image of HBK in an F1 car, revving it to the tune of his own theme?

[@AidanMillward]

@@simontravers2715WHO’S YOUR DADDY, ZANDVOORT?”

[@simontravers2715]

“No wait son wait…-“ “Look at me Dad! I’m driving Dad I’m driving!” “*HHH t-bones Shawn* STOP IT!!!!”

[@mrterp04]

@@AidanMillwardwhen Nascar was running Xfinity/Nationwide/second-tier races in Montreal (on the F1 track), some yahoo threw a shoe at Danica Patrick’s car. I called it the Montreal Shoejob.

[@KR1736]

HEY MAX, YOU'VE BEEN HAVING SUNNY DAYS LATELY!?

[@wetqerterterqyer]

Nothing can stop the Winkelrock🪨

[@pendremacherald6758]

There is something so funny about two guys arguing in Italian, when it’s the third language for both of them.

[@mrbungle3310]

One of the races i saw as a kid that i still remember

[@tobznoobs]

#NoOneCanBreakTheWinkelRock master of strategy and just all around a clever fella -mystery science theater f1

[@idriscorvus2237]

#NOONECANBREAKTHEWINKELROCK

[@Adam-dm7lc]

MSTF1🙌

[@eamonahern7495]

I remember watching that race live on Setanta Sports channel when I lived in Galway.

[@icewhitegames6875]

Great retrospective. Thank u. And I got my Stefan... 😅

[@MrSniperfox29]

IIRC (and wikipedia backs this up for what it's worth) it was the actual team who called in Winkelhock to make the change because they had "nothing to lose". Interestingly if that was true if someone did it today it would result in a penalty because that would be "driver coaching"

[@areasquirrel]

Wasn't until a few weeks later in F1 Racing Magazine that I learned Murray was on the radio, because who tunes in to sports coverage on the radio in the 21st Century? Was gutted to have missed him. BBC Red Button highlights a couple of years later took care of that. Felt like a weird alternate universe hearing the man himself commentate on Raikkonen, Hamilton, Alonso et al. The conditions were getting as bad as Suzuka '94, as I think it turned into hail at some point. Murray making it seem more dramatic, of course: "It is not just raining, it is DELUGING out there! STAIR RODS are falling out of the skies in the Eifel Mountains!" Yeah, 'sped' off is exaggerating a bit, Lewis having to tiptoe so he didn't just need to be retrieved again elsewhere around the lap. The battle for the lead was frustrating, because The Plaintiff was everyone's little brother and we wanted him to win, but I also wanted Alonso to win to close the gap to Hamilton. It was another famous image for me, seeing Alonso getting the camera to look at the tyre marks and angrily wagging his finger. And us monolingual English speakers found the arguing even more intense because we didn't understand a bloody word. Don't remember that from high school Spanish. The only downer being Ron Dennis' childish "fuck you" grinning taking the trophy off Schumacher on the podium. He'd have that wiped off his face soon enough though...

[@AidanMillward]

Who tunes in to sport on the radio in the 21st century? I do. Because I have the football on while driving down to my nan’s every other Saturday

[@wabba67]

Good stuff as always, thanks. Your intro got me thinking, how about covering a really boring race in some of your videos? Like the 2002 Japanese GP, where seemingly nothing happened.

[@gustavomarques4097]

The 2019 French Grand Prix would be eligible for this as well😂.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

2009 European GP would be a shout too

[@robertharrington703]

If the rain had stabilised before the safety car this could've been so much more special, but it's still my favourite memory from "before my time" (I started watching the next year)

[@declanthomas7159]

I'm just here to like any and all comments referencing MSTF1

[@Adam-dm7lc]

Same here😅

[@ainmeile]

Something something sparkling open wheel racing

[@scrubsrc4084]

Matrain Brundele "this is what we call in the business......foreshadowing"

[@mihaelsoldo4304]

I remember that race like it was yesterday, what a great race that was 😁🤞 Brings back a lot of memories 🤔 And Massa saying Ron Dennis to f*ck off 😆😆❤️

[@JohnSmithShields]

Excellent use of the f-bomb allowance.

[@AidanMillward]

Quotes are uncensored. Always.

[@Woodie-xq1ew]

1:00 in the words of Syndrome from the incredibles “ when everyone’s super, no one will be”

[@minibus9]

awesome video

[@EWhite-95]

Can’t forget Alonso’s 💪😬 to the camera at the end

[@EmilForsberg_GRYBO]

With all the pro wrestling refferences im surprised you haven't made any videos about that

[@Muldini]

The only driver in history to start both in first and last place - in the same race. Legend.

[@arthurguitar]

2:25 fabulous stat

[@roncolvin4302]

Another race that could be considered interesting in the same manner as Winkelhocks lead of the 2007 European Grand Prix is Giancarlo' Baghetti's win of the 1961 French Grand Prix, in His first F1 World Championship race, though he had won both the Syracuse and Naples Grand Prix non-championship races previously the same year,.This proved to be the only World Champion race that put him on the podium.

[@markoarkaina8656]

El Plan vs Hashtag Blessed, brilliant!

[@kevinprior3549]

Nice Walsall shirt btw

[@King_Goat_JJ]

Two things when I think of this race. One is the turn one river & second is the GOAT himself Marcus Winkelhock

[@bistbost]

You must be a cult of cornette member! Respect. TY, FY, BYE. 😊

[@tamassky]

3:45 Nando actually went off like 4 times that race:)

[@AeroGuy07]

I was driving from Italy to Denmark during this race and got caught in a part of this storm system. It hit while I was on an unlimited stretch of the Autobahn running about 95mph. There was no warning. It was dry one second and coming down in buckets the next.

[@briankay4713]

Loving the Wallsall Admiral top Aidan ...2010/2011 away is it ?

[@GreggCesaroni]

My dad was racing at Mosport that weekend Manfred Winkelhock died. He remembers seeing the car coming in to the pits under a cover on a flat bed. Turn 2 back then had zero run off. It was tarmac, white line, 1 foot of grass, concrete wall. Behind was a swamp. His dentist’s husband was the brain surgeon at Sunnybrook Hospital and said Winkelhock’s brain was literally a strawberry smoothie.

[@robertwilloughby8050]

Jo refused to give up smoking from that day onward, saying that if his brother could die like that, what was the use of him giving up smoking, seeing as he could die the same way. And Markus, similarly, refused to give up caffeine, even during the season.

[@mattwhorlow9900]

FYI - Jo Winlelhock also raced in F1 (in 89 I believe), although more "raced" than raced if you know what I mean.

[@JulioSMacedo]

is it you on the drums on the intro music? always wondered that

[@mrkipling2201]

Nobody ever used to kick out of the RKO!!

[@attilatabanyi3275]

Ah WALSALL FC....That is where Gabor Bukran used to play around 2000, didn't he?

[@LewisSkinner]

"when everyone is super, no one is"

[@philllawrence1580]

6.3k to Robbie M!!

[@fabianrocha9924]

#NoOneCanBreakTheWinkelrock

[@scottporter9510]

Question: Should F1 adopt rules similar to IndyCar where if a car goes off, then there are certain conditions where 'marshals' can help the car back to the track and even restart a stalled car to allow it to continue?

[@66kart66]

1983 Sebring 12hr story pls

[@stefencooke]

Iirc off at the 1st corner was Jenson Button Lewis Hamilton Nico Rosberg so 3 future world campions Adrian Sutil Anthony Davidson Scott Speed and Vitantonio Liuzzi

[@MadaraUchiha55910]

No one Except the Undertaker should kick out of any finishing move, but then again that was his whole gimmick, along with Kane. but they’re both gone now so yeah.

[@bdh985]

Just out of curiosity, what is that flag that's been in the background?

[@GreatCdn59]

the one with the chains? It looks to be the flag of the Black Country (a region of the English Midlands)

[@baksatibi]

13:44 Well, he wasn't out, he just had a 41:25.913 pit stop (from pit entry to pit exit). (Yes, I know you were joking.)

[@Left4Coragem]

What was the race in which Sergio Perez was helped by the marshalls?

[@MrSniperfox29]

IIRC it was Bahrain or something, but it wasn't so much he was helped, the marshall was pushing him back and the cars electrics restarted and he pulled away

[@saifulaimran8022]

What if you do the history of the European gp

[@GuzziHeroV50]

Markus destroyed any respect I had for him with his largely unpunished actions at the 2012 GT1 finale at Donington. If anyone thinks Ticktum was bad...

[@GravellordNito]

Bianchi went off under double yellows. It shouldn't even be possible to go off under double yellows

[@kevinprior3549]

Having the first race in Azerbaijan called the European GP made no sense to me.

[@kevinprior3549]

Essentially it was a Jordan that was leading that race for a little bit.

[@LucasOliveira-tt2ll]

Regarding what happened in the Red Bull garage, could it be another rule change to stop that kind of gimmick?

[@MrSniperfox29]

The issue is what Red Bull actually did has been done for about 73 years, there has never been any issues with teams repairing cars mid race and then sending drivers back out again even if they end up multiple laps down. Red Bull did this, but obviously took it to the extreme by only doing it to serve a penalty The difference between Perez and what Hamiltons actions resulted in is that the latter were all done on track and resulted in marshalls or officials moving the car. This is the same reason George Russell wasn't allowed to start the British GP after the Zhou incident. Perez, on the other hand, made it back to the pits on his own power and had no contact with any officials, hence why he was allowed to rejoin. Now reading social media, it seems people didn't know that you were allowed to do that and seem to think that if you get out of the car you are eliminated, despite David Coulthard in 1998 clearly getting out of the car to fend off Schumacher before getting back in when they repaired his McLaren. Honestly I do not think any rules need changing because it is literally a freak occurrence that will probably never happen again

[@tamassky]

3:32 ESP was actually 3rd/2nd, Massa won.

[@MScotty90]

Nobody can kick out of an F5? Sounds like you just don’t understand my mentality, bro.

[@johnyossarian1135]

The fact that Ferrari haven't hired Magic Markus to replace their entire strategy team is why they're terrible

[@leerobinsoninuk]

the reason red bull are able to do the turn of the century ferrari thing is because .... fia cant be made into red bull punny abbreviation

[@harrypreece6680]

Ain’t that the truth about the Canadian Destroyer Petey Williams made it look phenomenal Ricky Morton made it look tragic

[@AidanMillward]

I saw a clip the other week of two blokes doing two or three on each other. Kayfabe is dead.

[@Lizard_Man666]

Haven't seen an Aidan video in quite a while. Now I remember why I unsubscribed

[@AidanMillward]

Glad I jogged your memory!