Winota, Joiner of Forces | EDH Budget Deck Tech $50 | Human Tribal | Tokens | MTG | Commander

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[@sertaki]

Important note: When Winota puts a human into play attacking, that will not trigger any "when this attacks" abilities! You actually need to have a creature in play when combat starts AND choose it as an attacker for abilities with that wording to trigger.

[@SimpleVisionVideos]

Yes this, "when x creature attacks" is short for "when x is DECLARED as an attacker"

[@ehallam08]

Lessons from Alesha lol

[@grgagrg8129]

The creature is attacking why shouldnt it work?

[@sertaki]

@@grgagrg8129 "when x attacks" triggers at the beginning of the 'declare attackers' step only. Which means, when you choose all your attackers and tap those without vigilance. If then after this happens any effect puts more creatures into play (Like Winota), and does so while specifying "put into play attacking", then the creature will be treated like any other attacker in this turn - but it happens after the single moment when attacking triggers are checked - which is the very beginning of the 'declare attackers' step, as I explained above. Even if new attackers are put into play during the 'declare attackers' step - as with Winota, who triggers immediately after the declaration itself, the game doesn't 'see' you declaring them as attackers, so none of their "when x attacks" abilities actually trigger. This is the reason why the new Mishra's melded form hase a "when this attacks or enters the battlefield" ability, to make sure the trigger is also resolved when the meld happens mid-combat (which is a similar trigger to Winota), not just on subsequent turns after that first attack. Hope that explains it well.

[@saqvobase4301]

Leigon's landing would be good in this deck

[@mmartak]

You've left out my Golden Pig: Loyal Unicorn. It's an essential inclusion that keeps all of the attackers on the battlefield pretty much no matter what. That card needs more love in general, but is jaw-droppingly good here.

[@dannielrmonteiro]

This is indeed REALLY powerfull in this deck.

[@SimpleVisionVideos]

Nice find!

[@leonbeumelburg5820]

Also using Iroas God of Victory would be really good

[@jakeapplegate6642]

Frontline medic is in the list. It does the same thing with a little upside and it is a human.

[@wgazendam6745]

My golden pig is combat celebrant

[@garthoreilly7979]

This has convinced me to finally break into the commander format. Winota is probably my favorite card from Ikoria and this deck looks like so much fun!

[@jacobjensen7704]

A warm welcome to you brother :D

[@picopico205]

Commander is a blast dude, casual play with multiple people is just great, not to mention the array of customisation you can have with building around one card!

[@jo_ken]

I love Winota and how powerful she is as a Boros commander, but at the same time I wish they’d make more cards that would make all of the general Boros commanders better unlike Winota and Feather who sort of come on the scene and make a list of incredibly budget cards suddenly extremely useful.

[@justinbowman1342]

Agreed, I like Feather and Winota but due to the nature of their of playstyle most of the decks built around them end up being pretty similar among different players.

[@Narabedla4]

i would not compare winota to feather in that regard, as you can make a good boros deck with winota as the commander, the same can't be said about a decent feather deck. A winota deck often times could work without winota, just kinda slow, but a feather deck without feather is basically non existent, barring some removal spells.

[@jacobjensen7704]

Not sure what you're talking about. I've been making updates to my Boros decks a lot lately. We've got so many new toys to play with my testing has been pretty much a continual process.

[@Tyrogueevo]

Justin Bowman you should try some of the more interesting builds like Feather Blink

[@marceloquejinho]

I agree with you but don't agree that Winota is like Feather! I think Winota could go in any boros deck that has a similar human/non-human number of creatures. Just play her and attack. You are probably going to get card advantage from that. If you attack with, let us say, a goblin, an angel and a non-human soldier that happened to be in your deck anyway, you will look so deep in the deck that you will probably find Odric, or Bladehold, etc! Feather on the other side Just needs that you make the same deck that everyone is playing or she Just wont work ☀️🔥👊

[@SunShinyReys]

YES! I have been wanting a Winota deck for a while but couldn't figure out how to budget it out. Thank you so much! Ordered before finishing the video.

[@pauldyson8098]

I'm sorry, Mitch, I can't hear you over the sound of my love for Winota.

[@hoodiehydra7931]

I just made a deck for her myself and I think she is really fun. I was hoping you would make a deck for her so I could compare

[@TheEmeraldboy100]

It's fun until you have too many tokens on the field

[@ethanstates884]

Hey Mitch, I’m really glad you made a deck tech for winota. It really helped give me some ideas for her and I appreciate the decks techs more than anything else on this channel. :)

[@wlieb7017]

Thank you! I pulled Winota in my prerelease kit, and I really wanted to build a commander deck.

[@dakotasanford5570]

This is awseome. Ive been looking at her the last few days!

[@sindividual]

Just when you thought your favorite format was safe from Winnie's shenanigans... lol

[@MrClosetSpider]

Happy to see deck techs again.

[@g_n9726]

Played a Gishath deck against my friends Winota... Winota is terrifying.

[@mdchiesi]

Still such a beautiful deck. Winota's so much fun. Blade Historian and Elite Spellbinder are a lot of fun to pull out of the deck too.

[@SnailMan307]

I’m building winota but I’m going with soilder tribal, I feel there’s a lot of soldier Symmetry to make it work with the whole human and nonhuman thing and it’s turning out pretty good

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

Lots of good non human soldiers.

[@Ratchet2546]

Yes!! I've been hoping for this one!

[@BigDamnVanguard]

I've been rocking Winota since Iko dropped and she's SO FUN. Easily one of my favorite commanders of all time. You can flood the board and just smash people.

[@MarcRacho]

Been waiting for this! Building now.

[@daredewley9231]

YYYYESSSSS BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE

[@premiumcheddar9983]

I actually have a winota deck but I'm excited to see what choices you have for cards in it to see if I can improve mine

[@draxthemsklonst]

She looks exactly like Winona Ryder.

[@crispy2802]

Feels like we're seeing a Boros design renaissance. absolutely love it.

[@brandonteppelin6353]

I have an Alter of Winota that is Dar, the Beastmaster from the cult fantasy movie. It's kind of cool to have a Yoked Ox all of a sudden bring out a Human to fight with it haha. Or a one drop goblin that brings a buddy to the scrap.

[@olivernewbold3082]

Been watching for years, just realised I'm not subscribed, I got you homie

[@Asmith218]

I built a haz deck over a token/winota shell. Of the humans that don't have green that i ;iked in a couple playtests are combat celebrant, Lovisa Coldeyes, and Matron Stromgald though they might not fit in the budget. I like haz adding green to the mix for shanna, sidar kondo, rhys, Johan (mainly for flavor), knight of new alara, and Kamahl

[@puffin-onehandedgamer1164]

fun fact: for me (a european) it costs around 200 $ to buy this deck using your link. I didn't expet to get it for 50 $, but never 4 times that either.

[@mangohub3252]

That’s because the postage spikes up an insane amount

[@MSKS6]

You should definetely not buy at TCG-Player or Cardkingdom. As a European myself, I only use Cardmarket and had great results. I put in some of Mitch's lists, and they mostly matched the price +/- a few €.

[@AceDRoses]

I love tokens but this is amaizing, you have all tokens ,all the types of tokens . I shall call it "Makeshift Battalion"

[@c.r.bledsoe9322]

I feel like impact tremors would be great in this deck with all the creature etb's you can have in one turn. That alone could finish an opponent out of nowhere

[@SimpleVisionVideos]

It's true, I like warstorm surge but impact tremors makes more sense for the tokens, also I threw in cavalcade into my build for extra burn :)

[@nekkomacioce]

Finally caught one on the day it was released! The deck will actually cost $50!

[@Drewbe821]

Looks like a sweet Boros tech. 👍

[@fsfreturns5242]

Gonna call it before watching this : the golden pig will be "Assemble the Legion". Will edit after watching. EDIT : welp guess I was wrong. Still nice to see it being part of the deck !

[@leonardhinkelmann5629]

Hey Mitch, i brewed an ultra budget list with her since she was spoiled and had a lot of fun playing with the deck. Here are some of my thoughts: 1. Imo mana rocks aren't that great for winota decks, since you want to run creatures out before playing her. 2. Humans that get you tokens when they attack aren't that great because when you get them with winota, you need to wait 2 more turns until you get additional triggers. 3. You missed one(2) of the most important cards: Auratouched Mage and Breath of Fury. Together they can get you multiple additional combat steps and the go infinite with cards like loyal apprentice and Legion Warboss.

[@bridini7768]

I made a winota deck for $180 but now with prices increasing the deck is now worth $250. Just like this deck is now worth around $62. Card value in a whole has gone up.

[@sasukeds]

Mana dorks are super powerful in this deck like gold and iron myr. Man lands like Mishra's Factory, Mobilized District and Blinkmoth Nexus also help a TON with consistency. Winota is super fun and super strong and if you like agro play styles this can beat down some of the best decks in the format. When my play group pulls out their Kinnan and Golos decks, I slap Winota down and beat the hell out of them by turn 4 or 5 xD Honestly I could talk all day about this deck, but just go build it!!!!!

[@stfinalwrath]

Anointed Procession would be huge in your build. Even if it's a bit on the pricier side for budget decks.

[@thebenis3219]

It's actually insane, Mitch. With Winota, you can basically buy the Mardu humans C20 Commander Deck and strip 70% of it and use it for Winota. I absolutely love the fact that she's Narset, but for beats. She's also got a MASSIVE toolbox to work with. Some other fun cards for Winota for folks interested: More Human Allies: Lantern Scout, Hero of Goma Fada and Firemantle Mage. Give all your friends Lifelink, Indestructable or Menace. Like Warstorm Surge? How about its 'little brothers', Impact Tremors and Outpost Siege? I've grown to absolutely love Outpost Sieges dual purpose as Red card advantage and ping potential. Throne of the God Pharaoh is also incredible cleave once you get your token engine going. More Card advantage/deck manipulation? Try out Thalia's Lancers. Super budget, big Human beat stick with a tutor for Legendaries slapped onto it. Dire Fleet Daredevil is also a favorite of mine when your opponents have played something juicy. Want some more protection for Winota? A card like Bolt Bend can save you and is cheap to cast (1 mana when targeting her). Looking for a win? Auratouched Mage+Breath of Fury can kick off an infinite combat lock provided you have token producers when attacking (like Hero of Bladehold). Zealous Conscripts/Village Bell-Ringer+Splinter Twin can produce infinite creatures (like Kikki-Jiki+Restoration Angel which could also be run lol).

[@thebenis3219]

A card I've also added and had a ton of fun with in testing is Tempt With Vengeance. It's a fun card for the table, but HOLY triggers. Grenzo, Havoc Raiser has also tested very well!

[@jacobjensen7704]

Mitch, you read my comments!! Now to find $50 to make this deck....

[@hugokapon4166]

Mitch, if you see this, could you try to make a budget Sedris the Traitor King deck? He seems really unique in his colors, and also really powerful. Just a suggestion tho. Keep up the good work!

[@Tyrogueevo]

and first up is wayfarers bauble

[@warpgamer9055]

I'd like to ask when you do the upgrades if you can give reasons to why they're better then the budget options. You used to do this and now just list them, I like to here your opinions.

[@richardmineall5428]

keep in mind 2 rulings, winotas effect triggers for EACH non-human that attacks, and when a card comes in tapped and attacking IT DID NOT ATTACK

[@meatrace]

Really need Aurelia. Getting two attack steps each turn means double Winota triggers.

[@seanmower3926]

Add in aggravated assault and you’re really having fun now

[@renanishikawa7696]

1:50 and first up is wayfarers bauble

[@chaos_magician6689]

Hey, can you do a budget build for the first Commander I really was intrigued by: Emmara, Soul of the Acord?

[@Mr_Myst13]

Note if you're going to play this: Effects like Relentless Assault won't make your humans attack in the 2nd combat... Winota only gives the humans indestructible, not haste, so you can't attack with the humans that Winota summoned...

[@pkphantom]

Are you planning on doing Kinnan? I'm curious to see if there are any similarities between how you'd build him and how I am

[@Cef21]

Can we fit a Thorbran in there? All of our red sources doing an extra 2 points (Warstorm Surge) would be pretty nasty. Oh and Impact Tremors.

[@pollywannacarrot]

You probably have lists of deck tech video ideas for the next 3 centuries XD. Still though, would you ever consider doing one on Chainer, Dementia Master?

[@raydelmartinez2905]

Waiting for this one.... I have been...

[@gplthebeast]

For card draw Honor the God-Pharaoh also has amass 1, granting a non human token

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

Mentor of the meek as well

[@TheSmartCinema]

Winota is so powerful when built correctly! It's insane! It's so easy to shutdown a heavy combo player early game before they can set up a sufficient defense, it feels so great! Then I end up 3rd and sip my beer laughing with the two other players about how fun the game is without a player playing solitaire

[@leonardhinkelmann5629]

100% same. Except i use malt beer

[@joem8507]

I believe that its called a Mustard counter

[@Mcfluffy123]

I already need a break the bank on this

[@richardmineall5428]

also, angraths mauraders and odric, lunarch marshal are my 2 golden pigs

[@gabrousseau9826]

A have made a commander three color werewolf with winota in .... is junking ase *****but is so cool when is work XD

[@m.mulder8864]

This is great and all but where's that Rarity deck tech at?

[@RedCoat1016]

I was today years old when I learned that soldier and knight tokens don't count as humans unless they specifically say "token creature - human soldier or human knight." I mean, I get it, you gotta go by literal wording when it comes to the rules, I just feel like this is gonna cause a few scoops and table flips, lol. I always knew Winota was strong, but this has completely opened up my eyes.

[@marcolariviere7]

never thought the lena i have would ever be cnsidered a good card XD

[@dreddbolt]

Finally, a commander in Boros colors I actually like more than Feather.

[@JonLeitheusser]

I recommend Masako the Humorless.

[@Porkchopnchief]

After game 1 of this freshly sleeved, my son looked at the nearly 800 points of damage he'd just dealt me on turn 5 and said, "uh, I think we need to break this thing apart and never play it again..."

[@8jking8]

Do you have a deck list ? For a friend... :p

[@abrahamrokhsar9119]

don't attack triggers of creatures not work the turn they come in with winota?

[@SorryIJustAteYourDog]

The cost of friendship? Merely 50 dollars.

[@SimpleVisionVideos]

Reasonable upgrade: sunforger and swords to plowshares

[@calebthumme3717]

What number of lands or recommended in this deck?

[@turnugin5645]

Mitch stop!! Your videos are too good!!!

[@DoomStarRequiem]

Would this be able to take on an Edgar Markov edh in 1v1?

[@Fishcrab]

Boros man will be happy with this.

[@MrBagelz]

Ah man why couldnt the EDHREC deck cost 321.23 This looks great I think im gonna use some of the cards for my Najeela deck as I want it to be similar in style. For sure gonna have Winota in it now.

[@jobywonkanobi]

Hey someone mind helping me out, i got a combo idea but not sure if will work. Would Winota's ability still work if Maskwood Nexus was in play? It gives everything changeling (in hand, deck, and graveyard) so all creatures would be considered human and non-human at the same time right, there for allowing the attack trigger no matter the creature and letting you play any creature onto the field since they are also technically humans as well? Or am i completely miss reading this combo?

[@victorgbs]

Late response but I'll leave it here if anybody stumbles on the video: I'm pretty sure the card would ruin the deck actually - since the Trigger is looking for non-Humans attacking, it sees everyone is a human and says "you get no triggers". It would be fantastic if only creatures in your library had every creature type, and creatures on the battlefield somehow lost all their normal creature types to another effect, so you could trigger Winnie with all your attacker and get your pick of whichever creatures you wanted in your library.

[@piralos1329]

Out of curiosity, how did you balance the human/non-human slots? It's something that I've been struggling with since Winota's release, outside of simply going with "a bunch of humans who make non-humans". It seems really well balanced here, so I was wondering if you had any advice around this kind of thing?

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

Think that is what he did. There are a ton of humans that make "non human" tokens, especially soldiers and warriors.

[@emeraldsky1289]

Winota is cool but my friend already made her so I really shouldnt make her lol. Very tempting tho. Great deck tech

[@betainvestments7215]

Please show prices of cards

[@nik700]

I'm really considering building her with Allies, since they care about ETBs and have a nice ratio of human/non human

[@jacobjensen7704]

That sounds like a cool idea :D

[@mr.mattrocity6933]

MMMOOOAAAARRRRRR!

[@sammay600]

Mitch I miss when you would show the strategy and how to win as text tittle cards.

[@sammay600]

Also what happened to the prices under the card?

[@matheusrudzevicius6448]

sammay600 probably removed since prices change a lot

[@ZorrosRage]

Would be cool if you did $50 100 $200 and $300 lists with the $50 video like just linked lists in the video

[@jefferybays5340]

General kudro of drannith deck tech plz?

[@randommindz6782]

WELP.....let's see what I can do with all of the jank boros cards i have lying around....

[@borosman720]

BOROS!!!! FINALLY!

[@crazydeadperson]

I'm a bit confused here to my understanding attack triggers dont work if a creature is put into play attacking so why have so many humans with attack triggers

[@828burke]

It's not like they leave after they come in

[@GroundThing]

My guess is that it's because you're expecting to use those effects on subsequent attacks, but yeah, I'm not sure how well it'd work. I know when I was building Alesha, relying on future turns for attack triggers, e.g. Ankle Shanker, was a problem with the deck, but maybe the fact that Winota makes them indestructable and can get bigger creatures makes it more viable.

[@crazydeadperson]

@@828burke I guess it depends on who you play against it's not smart to let a winota deck keep a board if you actually plan on winning so as a winota player I think itd make more sense to have more effects that happen immediately rather than 1 or 2 turns later

[@828burke]

@@crazydeadperson it's never a good idea to let anyone else keep a board. Sometimes it's unavoidable

[@AutumnReel4444]

The golden pig is a big payoff if you don't have tokens as your main force. A good third of the cards are token creation. Hmmm

[@scremingegle1791]

Ah yes finally another good boros commander for me and the 2.5 other people who like the colour combo

[@Fishcrab]

Boros man is one, who are the other 1.5?

[@justinbowman1342]

@@Fishcrab Feather the Redeemed due to being able to constantly recycle pump spells and Zirda the Dawnwaker for being able to go infinite with Balsalt Monolith.

[@Fishcrab]

@@justinbowman1342 I was asking about the 2.5 people. I know the popular commanders

[@jacobjensen7704]

Bruh. You don't know how big of a group you've got.

[@Strakneus]

I'll be the 0.5th person. Now that my back is basicly half broken, I'm not worth much more anyways.

[@nathanielcrowell822]

wow im early

[@michellemoore7829]

no myr for mana rocks? This is one of the decks where creature based rocks are good actually

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

Already very vulnerable to wipes. While they may help trigger her it would also suck to lose allot of mana.

[@steam_skull815]

Third

[@CrypticTranscendence]

#BringBackCardPrices

[@tangolino]

Any chance of a budget Kinnan deck? :P

[@jacobjensen7704]

It seems like an easy budget deck to make- just throw in a bunch of mana-producers and big stompy stuff.

[@tangolino]

@@jacobjensen7704 There seems to be some ways to do it, just curious which way Mitch would.

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

I wouldn't really call it human tribal. There are lots of humans ya, but you need allot of non humans as well to make it work.

[@brianleighton370]

I can't help but notice that you are leaving lands and the prices of each individual card out of your deck techs even though those are both important things, especially since a deck can't function without lands

[@TeamGunman]

Basic lands are free 99.99% of the time

[@brianleighton370]

@@TeamGunman yeah but we still need to know how many and what kinds to put in and I was referring to the prices of nonland cards

[@TeamGunman]

Did you not click the link it shows all of the numbers on the tcgplayer list.

[@brianleighton370]

@@TeamGunman I did, most people I know just prefer the prices and number of lands to be in the video

[@norushoutcast]

MFW realizing that Soldier Token is non human creature

[@corysims4313]

No combat celebrant? Really? I get why no godo and helm combo, but come on.

[@Echopichu]

Bet it's already at 75 for the list XD the sad truth of popular budget channels

[@antischtick3502]

Mitch: How to make this deck good you ask? Well WAYFERER'S BAUBLE OF COURSE!

[@icewizzard]

You got most things right, but I want to make some comments. I made a deck 80% similar to yours and I've fallen for the same traps you did: -Don't bother with ramping if it is not 1 mana. Your game plan is turn 2-3 making tokens and turn 4-5 attacking. Ramping at turn 2 and playing winota on 3 is a huge misplay. -Don't bother drawing cards. If you don't win after the second attack (turn 5) or on rare occasion the third one (turn 6), you already lost. -any manlands are worth it and they are pretty cheap -remember that anything that isn't a human is another chance at failing to find a creature on the trigger. That includes removal, ramp, draw, value, etc. The deck is aggro and has 1 plan. Stick with it. If you want value, go play simic. -extra attacks is worthless because you don't have haste. For that, you need to run odric, lunarch marshal. He comes from the triggered ability and gives haste to everyone. If there is some other human out there that gives haste, it would be great too. -the real combo of the deck is auratouched mage + breath of fury. Those are free extra attacks from the triggered ability that can end the game, besides giving you more time to find haste + odric, so everyone else gets haste too. This combo ends the game on the spot.

[@Woopertrooperash]

I built a Winota deck on a Budget of like 70 Bucks ans proxed it so I could playtest it. It was so broken that I decided Not to buy the cards and stay in my playgroup...

[@jacobjensen7704]

That just means your playgroup has to adjust to aggressive decks.

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

@@jacobjensen7704 or it means his playgroup plays at a lower power level. As far as commanders go she definitely gives even cheap jank a huge power boost.

[@jacobjensen7704]

@@goolabbolshevish1t651 that must be really low power then, because while I do agree she gives even cheap jank a huge power boost, it's very beatable. Just play removal :D

[@firstoffthereswayfarersbau4140]

1:50 First UP* there's Wayfarer's Bauble.

[@andymahoney1776]

it sucks that the deck price DOUBLES every time you make the vid. I know it's not your fault but it can get annoying.

[@Jakk3113]

Slow down a bit man sounds like you've had too much caffeine.