Clem gets Proxy Hatchery CHEESED! StarCraft 2

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StarCraft 2 Tournament - Clem vs Bly - ESL SC2 EU Regional Championship 2024 - Terran vs Zerg - Bly amazing Zerg cheese intimidates Clem in this awesome Terran vs Zerg battle!
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@bobdoe7432
@bobdoe7432 Ай бұрын
Talking as Brenda one of the best parts of the commentary
@lolitaredneckzombie
@lolitaredneckzombie Ай бұрын
he's the goat
@badwrongbadong
@badwrongbadong 29 күн бұрын
its incredible cringe lol
@ferologics
@ferologics 29 күн бұрын
it’s become a classic
@kungpochopedtuna
@kungpochopedtuna 26 күн бұрын
Love a bit of brenda
@ng9995
@ng9995 29 күн бұрын
We have Dark at home Dark at home:
@NealHoltschulte
@NealHoltschulte 29 күн бұрын
lol this is my favorite comment
@Salammaleicu
@Salammaleicu 29 күн бұрын
Facs
@ianholland4285
@ianholland4285 29 күн бұрын
As a baby Zerg it's nice to see Bly embrace the chaos of Zerg at this level. I may never get past silver league but I play like Bly and win or lose I love every minute of it 😂
@benismann
@benismann 29 күн бұрын
"Remember: it's not about winning or losing, it's about complaining on the internet"
@AXharoth
@AXharoth 28 күн бұрын
chaos? it wasnt chaos it was great strategy , but beaten by superior micro and everything else
@ianholland4285
@ianholland4285 28 күн бұрын
@@AXharoth it was chaos lol. I don't think anyone would win at that level if the initial attack fails, especially the same thing three times in a row m you'd be too far behind and can't defend the base
@AXharoth
@AXharoth 28 күн бұрын
@@ianholland4285 i see what you mean it prob was quite stressful
@Flynnmaster
@Flynnmaster Ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see you cast a ZvZ match on SC Evolution, and hear the banter between Brenda, Susan and the SC1 flying queens
@MrYago-xd7um
@MrYago-xd7um Ай бұрын
And perhaps the Friends theme song for good measure.
@DaevorTheDevoted
@DaevorTheDevoted 24 күн бұрын
Ha! Looking forward to this!! 🙂
@imcheesecakeLLC
@imcheesecakeLLC 17 күн бұрын
Even though I know you’re not talking to anybody when you look to your right, it still cracks me up every time lol
@faridmk3707
@faridmk3707 29 күн бұрын
I love how versatile terran is. Want to do an early harass where you can counter banes and quickly kill drones, while 2 shooting queens with a snipe and auto attack? Build ghosts. Want to counter heavy, super expensive air units like broodlords? Go ghosts. Want to counter giant ground units that can take on a small army by themselves, like Ultralisks or Archons? Get ghosts. Want to neutralize casters from far away? Get ghosts. If you don't feel like EMP, just snipe them bro. Want to play a bioball but there are banes around? Hold position with ghosts, they can take it.
@Sorenzo
@Sorenzo 29 күн бұрын
You forgot they have cloak and can fire nuclear missiles on top of all that xD
@shadowpriest2574
@shadowpriest2574 29 күн бұрын
Queens and Creep tumors are easily more OP than Ghosts and its not even close.
@BigLeafyTree
@BigLeafyTree 29 күн бұрын
@@shadowpriest2574true, I’ve seen late game Zerg where terrans have no answer to queens and creep tumours and just slowly bleed out while searching for an answer
@shadowpriest2574
@shadowpriest2574 29 күн бұрын
@@BigLeafyTree I see. You understand that you are proving my point, right? Not only are Queens and Creep Tumors OP, but they also are also good at hiding how OP they are, unlike the Ghost where its advantages are obvious. No, the problem with the Creep Tumor(because that is the unit I actually have a problem with, you know the FREE ENDLESLY REPRUDICTIVE UNIT) is the fact that it guarantees map control, information, map vision and so on and its free and comes from a unit that is more guaranteed to be made than the Zergling. For all the talk about how present the Ghost is at endgame, I see no complaint that the Queen is THIS present during zerg early game. When it comes to presence in games, The Queen is pretty much the 4th most common unit after the workers, because Marines are not that common in Mech Terran, while the only 2 instances where they are not played by zerg are 12 Pool and Worker Rushes.
@riley97
@riley97 29 күн бұрын
​@@BigLeafyTreeAnd then they build a ghost academy
@Quin.Bioinformatics
@Quin.Bioinformatics 29 күн бұрын
There's a conspicuous lack of counter for the 2-supply ghost.
@shadowpriest2574
@shadowpriest2574 29 күн бұрын
Without the Ghost Terran just instantly loses to Zerg. The fact that they NEED the Ghost is a testament to how broken Zerg is.
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 29 күн бұрын
Well you can't make it three supply
@Quin.Bioinformatics
@Quin.Bioinformatics 29 күн бұрын
@@chloesmith4065 4 spells, air and ground base attack 10+1 vs light units, 100 health, 150/125, 2 supply -- like a roach.
@Quin.Bioinformatics
@Quin.Bioinformatics 29 күн бұрын
@@chloesmith4065 They should be 4 supply.
@KingOfNebbishes
@KingOfNebbishes 29 күн бұрын
Ghosts should really at least cost 3 supply. If the reasoning for the Disruptor nerf was to prevent deathballing with them, that applies double to Ghosts, and yet they only got a tiny EMP range nerf.
@derfliegendehund17
@derfliegendehund17 29 күн бұрын
The ghosts are so overpowerd💀
@oddeda
@oddeda 26 күн бұрын
Exactly! I'm getting kinda sick with how the Ghost just single-handedly counters all the Zerg late game.
@MrPinksnoopy
@MrPinksnoopy 26 күн бұрын
@@oddeda really says a lot though about how good serral is when ghost counters all of zerg and serral gets zerg nerfed every other patch.
@erikvarga4367
@erikvarga4367 24 күн бұрын
He could have tried EMPing the ghosts. But I guess it is already too hectic to randomly remember having that option.
@kommisar.
@kommisar. 21 күн бұрын
@@erikvarga4367 Zerg doesn't have any kind of EMP. What are you talking about?
@kommisar.
@kommisar. 21 күн бұрын
@@MrPinksnoopy Serral is not the sole reason for any Zerg nerf. Plenty of Zergs are still winning at the highest levels, and Rogue is back so we'll see how that goes too. Ghosts are the ones who have been getting nerfed for like at least the last 3 patches now.
@colinfraser7150
@colinfraser7150 Ай бұрын
Did you miss "the ButterBly effect"?
@Dschast
@Dschast 29 күн бұрын
16:30
@Dschast
@Dschast 29 күн бұрын
Also "supbly"
@colinfraser7150
@colinfraser7150 29 күн бұрын
@@Dschast Ya got me there.
@Sorenzo
@Sorenzo 29 күн бұрын
I feel like a major downside of Zerg spellcasters and High Templars is that they don't have a ranged attack, so it's VERY easy for them to end up in the front line or between the front lines... I keep seeing pro players lose infestors, vipers, high templar, ravens, and overseers mostly because they simply don't behave like the other units - ghosts on the other hand, they can be comfortably A-moved alongside marines or marauders where they'll take up positions behind the marines instead of making a big spellcaster-ball between their own side and the enemy's troops, like the other spellcasters in this game do.
@ProtossOP
@ProtossOP 29 күн бұрын
Templars do have an auto attack
@benismann
@benismann 29 күн бұрын
>ghosts on the other hand, they can be comfortably A-moved alongside marines or marauders where they'll take up positions behind the marines The thing here is - they just replace marines. In a 20 ghost army you dont see very many marines or marauders
@MadDash84
@MadDash84 29 күн бұрын
@@ProtossOP I feel like every caster deserves some type of auto attack, however weak. Half the reason Terrans don't build Ravens is because they don't A-move well with the rest of the army and they have no observer mode. Other casters that don't attack get killed so easily due to mismicro. Protoss whined until HT got the attack, more for the purpose of being an auto anchor than to actually deal damage. I don't see why other races can't get the same treatment.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 29 күн бұрын
@@MadDash84 No, the only reason Terran don't build Ravens [with Bio] is because after the early game the Starport must have a reactor. This restriction is less of an issue with Mech.
@MadDash84
@MadDash84 29 күн бұрын
@@hivetech4903 You're telling me in the mid to late game, where resources are pouring in faster than you can spend, and when it's possible to replace army after army of bio without so much as missing a beat, that Terran players can't afford to build 1 extra starport with a tech lab? Ok.
@tertozer3543
@tertozer3543 29 күн бұрын
Ghosts have to be the most cost efficient unit in the game. It has so many spells and only needs two supply and can shoot ground and air units. It’s a joke, how easily ghosts can flip games.
@mavor101
@mavor101 29 күн бұрын
Snipes really shouldn't do so much damage. Watching ultralisks getting obliterated by a few snipes from long range is just dumb lol.
@shadowpriest2574
@shadowpriest2574 29 күн бұрын
And zerg is still way more OP.
@fierzali6297
@fierzali6297 29 күн бұрын
1 burrowed infestor hits a fungal and it's GG
@cman759
@cman759 29 күн бұрын
​​@@fierzali6297not even close, fungal holds them down but they are also tanky af. Either run your ultras through the liberator cloud while getting sniped, or have enough banelings that it's still a terrible trade. I agree terrans need the utility, but it should be spread through multiple casters.
@MagicienYT
@MagicienYT 28 күн бұрын
Game was flipped when bly failed to understand he had won, and since he never goes 5mn+ in games he doesnt understand he has to have larvas to clean the game. He got too afraid of siege tanks
@snagsTS
@snagsTS 29 күн бұрын
Anyone else notice the SCV casually butchering changelings at 56:27 ?
@nicholasfactor
@nicholasfactor 18 күн бұрын
nice catch!
@ArmstrongAlley
@ArmstrongAlley 29 күн бұрын
I really liked the way the siege tanks were turned against Clem in game 1.
@benethier4828
@benethier4828 Ай бұрын
Quickly Jimmy! Where are we at?
@AZ3rgling
@AZ3rgling Ай бұрын
A little before 15 minutes , clem killed his own turret not tank btw
@AXharoth
@AXharoth 28 күн бұрын
Winter couldve rewinded
@Haxses.
@Haxses. 28 күн бұрын
Weirdly though, the battle report did show clem having killed a tank, so he must have also killed a tank somewhere else via splash or something.
@davidmarin4503
@davidmarin4503 29 күн бұрын
clem looking like me on the ladder for the first 5 - 10 minutes of the game is so refreshing.
@AXharoth
@AXharoth 28 күн бұрын
nah
@alexandrel4569
@alexandrel4569 27 күн бұрын
I love how Clem went from basically EU Byun to actually be able to play Turtle Terran just as good as Maru. Well deserved Clem just keeps on improving. Love it.
@cubandarknez
@cubandarknez Ай бұрын
ghosts seem a bit strong
@KenuDRoger
@KenuDRoger Ай бұрын
I agree, they should nerf it maybe decrease its range by 1 or add its supply cost or increase its price
@ziliestarrive
@ziliestarrive Ай бұрын
Clem is highest ranked terran player rn btw
@yaniktremblay-simard6078
@yaniktremblay-simard6078 Ай бұрын
They're Clem's, that's why
@user-jc3jk6rz8w
@user-jc3jk6rz8w 29 күн бұрын
It’s not a bit it’s too strong
@7800barnett
@7800barnett 29 күн бұрын
Ghosts could be split into 2 units with the amount they bring to the table. I don't think Terran needs a significant nerf, I just think Ghosts are too good for EVERY situation. Make them Light units imo.
@catbert7
@catbert7 29 күн бұрын
And at the ripe old age of 9:00, Bly takes his 1st expansion.
@Metaspace2
@Metaspace2 29 күн бұрын
I've never seen Clem as bamboozled as in the first game
@warrenscipio4168
@warrenscipio4168 29 күн бұрын
"I've never seen a timing in my life" lol
@DudenamedSoo
@DudenamedSoo 29 күн бұрын
That first game was NUTS. loved seeing the zerg utilize everything they have access to, especially seeing the burrow to bait tanks to kill their own SCVs. Respect to Clem. As a zerg player, seeing all those tanks whittle away my army gives me ptsd.
@AnonJuggerbot
@AnonJuggerbot 29 күн бұрын
I also love seeing the Zerg player pull out all the stops and still get rolled by ghosts.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 29 күн бұрын
@@AnonJuggerbot Bly SUCKED by comparison. He has to resort to gimmicks because he has no confidence against top players and it shows, that's why he is global rank 54... Clem is Rank 2.
@nooonanoonung6237
@nooonanoonung6237 29 күн бұрын
@@AnonJuggerbot Bly is also crap compared to Clem, especially in the late game.
@FlokiTech
@FlokiTech 28 күн бұрын
@@AnonJuggerbot Put any real top zerg players in Bly position and Clem wouldn't have won that.
@ckimsey77
@ckimsey77 25 күн бұрын
Been watching your casts bro for years...and they're still great. I love your commentary and random "off-camera chit chat" w Jimmy and talkin about Brenda etc...lol good stuff my man. Thanks for your time to bring us good casts with entertaining narrative. Its appreceiated
@AnonJuggerbot
@AnonJuggerbot 29 күн бұрын
Observe as ghosts single-handedly win yet another game that they had no business winning.
@djkatfishbeats
@djkatfishbeats 29 күн бұрын
19:02 Oh, where were ye, old brood lords when thou corruptors fell ???
@AXharoth
@AXharoth 28 күн бұрын
aaahah
@imcheesecakeLLC
@imcheesecakeLLC 17 күн бұрын
lol it was a turret, there were two Zerg sympathizers in there!!
@ja3482
@ja3482 27 күн бұрын
19:05 Tanoka, when the brood lords fell
@malachite9071
@malachite9071 29 күн бұрын
RIP SC Ghost, I used to check game informer every month for updates when I was a kid, then “CANCELLED”. ;(
@Vadesmus
@Vadesmus 29 күн бұрын
"Bly has infested in fax machines in 2008" got me.
@mdsc234
@mdsc234 29 күн бұрын
"this game is fair and balanced" ---- loses with double the eco.
@tzaphkielconficturus7136
@tzaphkielconficturus7136 26 күн бұрын
"Think about the average zerg. A Serrral, for example." -WinterStarcraft
@speedftw32
@speedftw32 19 күн бұрын
Bly is a great demonstration of "old man strength" in the SC2 world
@sevreal4
@sevreal4 Ай бұрын
A "Natury if you would" got me weak, my man haha.
@AXharoth
@AXharoth 28 күн бұрын
ahahah
@monkeyaround2066
@monkeyaround2066 29 күн бұрын
Ghost is OP. So Terran is OP.
@cyrusmagnus
@cyrusmagnus 29 күн бұрын
What an amazing 1st match... and Terran wiiiiinsssss... cus ghosts! Again!
@aliasalbatross700
@aliasalbatross700 29 күн бұрын
Watched like half of the first game then skipped the rest, which is totally not my MO when watching winter, generally watch every video from beginning to end, but something about watching Bly take a massive lead early on and completely fail to translate it into a win is just so incredibly frustrating and I'm not even that big on Bly. Bly fans must have it the hardest.
@SaccoBelmonte
@SaccoBelmonte 28 күн бұрын
Those were some incredible games. The speed of the micro on both sides. :O
@blooddumpster3427
@blooddumpster3427 Ай бұрын
that is one of the most interesting games I've ever seen
@Grond112358
@Grond112358 29 күн бұрын
"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory; tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." -Sun Tzu
@AXharoth
@AXharoth 28 күн бұрын
Clem won with just tactics - - - - - - special tactics
@bmcclure3atgatech
@bmcclure3atgatech 29 күн бұрын
Bly just made me quite happy. I've often wondered why zergs dont just use tanks to kill scvs like that. He is the perfection of a bronze league hero.
@NormanGaming196
@NormanGaming196 Ай бұрын
WTF are ghosts man, that first game is a joke
@Azsunes
@Azsunes 29 күн бұрын
It's why Zerg has to end the game before they get a ball of ghosts
@ryder8646
@ryder8646 29 күн бұрын
@@Azsunes good luck going up that ramp into siege tanks
@Madlad000
@Madlad000 29 күн бұрын
Ultras need to be able to walk over friendlies
@metaentropy1182
@metaentropy1182 29 күн бұрын
The way that Bly comes off as a kid pulling legs off bugs in game one.
@oddeda
@oddeda 26 күн бұрын
I'm getting kinda sick with how the Ghost just single-handedly counters all the Zerg late game. It's so BS
@OniFeez
@OniFeez 29 күн бұрын
What an interesting first game. Feels like something is seriously off with balance though if one can come back from that and win. But I can't help but feel that Bly's persistence in building the same handful of units the entire game is sort of his detriment. Other than Ultralisks, gosh I still think they are a trash 'ultimate' unit. They honestly just seem to melt so ridiculously quickly, but that could just be because the opponent has like 5 ghosts per Ultralisk by the time each ultra comes out.
@tertozer3543
@tertozer3543 29 күн бұрын
I love Bly so much! He’s one of my fav players of all time since the first game I saw from him. Every game is so different. You never know, what he goes for. That’s why I love him so much.
@benismann
@benismann 29 күн бұрын
>Every game is so different. No offence, but i think it's hilarious that u said that under the video of him going proxy hatch 3 times in a row and getting burrow move roaches at least 2 out of those 3 times :>
@tertozer3543
@tertozer3543 29 күн бұрын
@@benismann Wrote my comment after the first two minutes into the match. :v
@benismann
@benismann 29 күн бұрын
@@tertozer3543 that happens, rookie mistake :>
@joeking5215
@joeking5215 28 күн бұрын
16:32 the ButterBly effect 😂
@main4919
@main4919 29 күн бұрын
Only the Brenda conversations beat Jimmy being lectured🤣🤣
@frankthetankkk7
@frankthetankkk7 29 күн бұрын
Watching late game zerg vs clem is painful
@alexandrel4569
@alexandrel4569 27 күн бұрын
Quite the contrary. It's refreshing when you know for how long Zerg has been broken.
@Grond112358
@Grond112358 29 күн бұрын
Bly: Diet Dark. I love watching Dark so watching Bly is so fun.
@jean-gabrielbedard9975
@jean-gabrielbedard9975 29 күн бұрын
Terran defense is broken.
@georgeromaniajr.2680
@georgeromaniajr.2680 29 күн бұрын
Every unit in the game has a hard counter except ghosts. But I think this really only becomes an issue when you’re facing the top 3 terrans in the world
@metaentropy1182
@metaentropy1182 29 күн бұрын
I can't stop laughing at that first game🤣
@josearmandogomezrocabado537
@josearmandogomezrocabado537 Ай бұрын
This is like watching Fury vs Francis 😅😅
@ThePatrykono
@ThePatrykono Ай бұрын
first game, its so nice to see ghost countering every single strategy the zerg can do with just ghosts, its insane... funny enough, gotta play ling/bane to counter it with lucky fungals
@PineapplePizzaBiS
@PineapplePizzaBiS Ай бұрын
It's nice one unit in the right hands can counter a race? 🤔
@ottoback5375
@ottoback5375 29 күн бұрын
ghosts counters both zerg and protoss entire arsenal, idk why blizzard think thats OK Only situation they are useless is in TvT
@volsirk
@volsirk 29 күн бұрын
@@PineapplePizzaBiS just one race? only matchup ghosts don't counter is terran
@Fissiccisst1
@Fissiccisst1 29 күн бұрын
I like how terran's general answer to ghosts is: just get lucky with fungals el oh el. As if they aren't spamming turrets and scans
@PineapplePizzaBiS
@PineapplePizzaBiS 29 күн бұрын
@@volsirk I didn't say just one >.
@michaelaida8420
@michaelaida8420 29 күн бұрын
Didn't expect for Bly to win the series but never imagined he'd give Clem such a challenge even in the mid/late game!
@billmurray2592
@billmurray2592 29 күн бұрын
39:59 just described Dark. Yeah... ...❤
@paladine6
@paladine6 27 күн бұрын
Note to Clem, don't put seige tanks next to mineral lines...
@symz4665
@symz4665 29 күн бұрын
Do you know the definition of insanity ?
@romandaniels-brown2371
@romandaniels-brown2371 29 күн бұрын
I'm low on energy and need 50 CC's of vitamin Dark
@christopherscott6383
@christopherscott6383 Ай бұрын
Let's freaking go!
@ckimsey77
@ckimsey77 25 күн бұрын
People commenting on ghosts... I agree. My opinion though would be slightly less nerf, but emp takes away energy for casting to all casters right? Yet only protoss it also INSTANTLY drains HALF the hp of a group of units; no one else can do that and no one can it be done to but protoss. EMP should drain casting energy ONLY,, it should not effect shields as well that's a different type of "energy"; its hp not casting energy. What if storm instantly halted the hp of all units it hit like a drain spell, how hard would all cry OP!!! until it was removed?? No free damage should be so drastic and instant with only the cost of a bit of casting mana/energy
@jonathanhallmann3448
@jonathanhallmann3448 3 күн бұрын
love the emotional support zerg you have 😆😆
@felixbermudez3782
@felixbermudez3782 29 күн бұрын
Wondering what "trade minerals for gas meant" Thats genius, mining the minerals then grabbing the gas then back to the minerals never having to return to the hatchery
@RagingGoblin
@RagingGoblin Ай бұрын
Look,. I'm not a 6k+ player, I get it. But it seems kinda ridiculous that 'Ghost' seems to be the answer against both Toss and Zerg, and it's always so incredibly good. I think, on the whole, Terran is just too cost-efficient - nobody makes this more evident than Clem.
@MagicienYT
@MagicienYT Ай бұрын
This is the whole point of bio terran units, cost efficient. Ravagers + Infestors + broods = not good vs ghosts. Bly kept his tech or prod too low for how far clem was behind. He lost a shit tons of ressources producing this for nothing at the wrong moment, those units do not kill bio they kill MECH. Then all that time gave the ressources for Clem to reach +3+3, making the terran units better at late game. He threw the game not reaching for the kill in time because he was scared of a few tanks up a slope, thats not even Clem winning this is Bly failing to see his wincon
@Fissiccisst1
@Fissiccisst1 29 күн бұрын
@@MagicienYT Name the unit Zerg is supposed to build vs ghosts. Spoiler there ISN'T one. Ghosts alone counter every unit zerg can ever make. All air units are worthless vs them, EMP hits before infestors can ever fungal, ghosts basic attack get bonus vs all light units countering zerglings hydras, and banes. Ghosts aren't light themselves so banelings are double worthless. Ultras get sniped, roaches do no dps, literally not even worth sniping. This is in addition to the fact that Snipe gets free refunds if it fails or gets cancelled, the only unit in the game btw that gets energy refunds. Snipe and EMP are available from the start. Only spellcaster that does real damage with a basic attack. And all this is before you include that you can get cloak and become the only caster in the game that requires detection to kill, which btw they're also going to snipe overseers or one tap observers if it becomes necessary. Zerg is the only race without energy destruction, the only glimmer is if you get lucky enough to either burrow fungal at the perfect moment, which is entirely luck based, or have the time to research neural, pray they don't scan, happen to find the ghost ball, and hope you can mind control and emp to kill energy at the guaranteed death of the infestor. which will only work maybe 1-2 times before the terran scans everywhere and builds turrets everywhere, at which point infestor abushes become impossible.
@MagicienYT
@MagicienYT 29 күн бұрын
@@Fissiccisst1 How do terrans kill ultras ? Gameplay, they narrow down the paths making them harder to use. Its not about a magic unit that kills ultras, if the ghosts were alone, no terrains, you can only snipe so many until you get cleaned up. If I would have played in the style of Bly, I would have made sure to have larvas, even if I had to have macro hatches because the time he cleaned the tanks he came back with a few reproduced ultras wich is stupid. Mass cracklings with the few vipers instead of pumping corruptors & broods wich takes a dozens of minutes to cross the map... Man, its just bly being too scared of tanks there. Even tho what I said is easier said than done because underpressure making this calls is rather hard if you did not prepare for it
@Fissiccisst1
@Fissiccisst1 29 күн бұрын
@@MagicienYT I get that army composition matters as solutions to what the enemy is building. But it feels like there's no gameplay solution to ghosts. Its largely just hoping the enemy terran makes a mistake and loses the ghosts in a scenario like you mention where you catch them out. Relying on enemy mistakes to fill a game design gap is awful. It feels awful. it feels like you have no agency as a zerg against terran. Because the terran completely controls the momentum in most scenarios. If you're aggresive, they turtle and get like 4x efficiency in kills, if you're passive, you're medivac dropped into hell cause zergs lack of decent anti-air. I forget where I heard it, but I feel like it summed up TvZ very well: Terran is one good decision away from winning the games, and zerg is one bad decision away from losing the game.
@MagicienYT
@MagicienYT 29 күн бұрын
@@Fissiccisst1 it feels like so but if you work hard enough it'll happen, stay strong bro 👊
@cathulionetharn5139
@cathulionetharn5139 Ай бұрын
Thank You Om nom nom
@TommyKay
@TommyKay 27 күн бұрын
I love winter and this channel, have been a fan for a long time now, but game number 1 has finally made me lose all faith into sc2. this game finally should die. If everything bly did isnt enought to beat a terran who abused ghosts and beats amazing burrowed roach moves with well placed but afk tanks than this game just isnt good anymore. im out to new horizions but wish all the best to my boy winter, but fuck terrans since release day of wings of liberty
@Arnianor
@Arnianor 29 күн бұрын
Sorry but if it isn't Serral behind the keyboard, you see ghosts you know how this is going to end. That unit is just not fun to watch anymore, without playing, it looks completely overpowered. I mean, if you reach end game terran, you will se ghosts. That single unit can: - Instantly halve the life of Protoss units (even worse on archons) - Instantly make any caster useless by removing energy - Completely destroy any Zerg endgame unit with snipe, regardless of armor upgrades - Cloak - Detect cloak with emp - Throw nuclear bombs all around while still having a very good DPS output without using any spell.... while templars have a puny little attack, and zerg casters need to be heavily microed because otherwise, not only they won't attack, but they'll actively suicide. Ghost is no fun to watch at this point anymore.
@AnonJuggerbot
@AnonJuggerbot 29 күн бұрын
Don't forget: Snipe does spell damage, meaning it ignores all armor and damage mitigation.
@ryder8646
@ryder8646 29 күн бұрын
@@AnonJuggerbot Don't forget: all the new maps are Terran favored
@jayR1337
@jayR1337 26 күн бұрын
it's comical how anyone can defend the ghost at this point. They are so completely overpowered, and just hard counters anything Zerg can do. Balance counsel needs to look into Snipe costing more, or putting it on a long cool down. 3 Supply is appropriate. Walk back the Infester nerfs. Terran is just good at everything, too efficient at everything, and too overpowered at most things. It's not healthy for the game. Terran have had their run at being OP. Time to scale back.
@OzixiThrill
@OzixiThrill 19 күн бұрын
@@jayR1337 So Ghosts are OP because a professional Zerg player from the lower ranks failed to close out a game after a cheese that crumbled (entirely due to his own inability to plan beyond his cheese) against one of the best players; And likely the best Terran in the world? I recommend you learn how to pick the hills you want to fight on better.
@AZ3rgling
@AZ3rgling Ай бұрын
Extremely lactose tolerant
@jacksonframpton7751
@jacksonframpton7751 27 күн бұрын
"Think of your average Zerg... like Serral" excuse me?
@jayR1337
@jayR1337 25 күн бұрын
yup, I immediately unsubsribed.
@willwilson4067
@willwilson4067 27 күн бұрын
This guy is the best commentator
@AgentLoki86
@AgentLoki86 29 күн бұрын
Definitely wouldnt consider serral as your average Zerg player, but i know what you meant.... lol
@Mantwawn
@Mantwawn 29 күн бұрын
dont forget that sunscreen!
@cpt.lounatic4010
@cpt.lounatic4010 29 күн бұрын
I was screaming lurkers for an hour at this.
@AnonJuggerbot
@AnonJuggerbot 29 күн бұрын
Against that many ghosts, you may as well just kill the lurkers yourself as soon as they finish morphing, save some time.
@cpt.lounatic4010
@cpt.lounatic4010 29 күн бұрын
@@AnonJuggerbot ur right i was referring to the first game and exaggerated a bit. When he had him cornered and things started to shift he had no ghosts at first in that first game
@SerbanOprescu
@SerbanOprescu 24 күн бұрын
I think it's long overdue revealing Jimmy.
@SawyerKnight
@SawyerKnight 29 күн бұрын
this is crazy
@MarcusRife
@MarcusRife 29 күн бұрын
What an entertaining game. Clem is too good. Points for thumbnail describing the immediate game!
@Wabits
@Wabits 29 күн бұрын
fax machines, We invest ok ,.. big market sale
@WolfgangGaming-xq5rm
@WolfgangGaming-xq5rm 29 күн бұрын
3k minerals in the bank on game 3 was a clear macro mistake… he could have had every base on his side saturated and taken a massive economic advantage
@Fissiccisst1
@Fissiccisst1 29 күн бұрын
Ghosts should cost 3 supply, be categorized as light, lose their bonus damage vs light, and snipe should not refund when the spell fails due to range or getting cancelled either manually or by damage. Its wild they designed a unit that literally counters every zerg unit and explicitly gave zerg no counter against it. Even anything almost mediocre at killing ghosts are countered by 2 siege tanks
@benismann
@benismann 29 күн бұрын
dont forget EMP dealing aoe 100 or so damage to shields (in addition to wiping 100 energy ofc) and there's only one race that has shields :>
@drewweeks6089
@drewweeks6089 29 күн бұрын
Zergling bane counters it. Zerg actually need fully upgraded zerglings which bly forgot to get.
@yugonostalgia8961
@yugonostalgia8961 29 күн бұрын
@@drewweeks6089 Did you miss the explaination winter gave where it takes 6-7 banelings to kill a ghost? That's 300 minerals and 150 gas vs 150/125, still a win for the ghost in that case
@OzixiThrill
@OzixiThrill 19 күн бұрын
@@yugonostalgia8961 Did you miss the part that Banelings hit in an AoE and even when taken out do damage around themselves? The moment you hit more than two Ghosts it's worth it. The moment we're talking about 10, you quickly realize why Ling-Bane is actually a counter.
@JG-ti7id
@JG-ti7id 29 күн бұрын
40:02 lol
@user-ym9dz5uy2v
@user-ym9dz5uy2v 29 күн бұрын
Creep spread over the map dam.
@roastedchicken9107
@roastedchicken9107 29 күн бұрын
I'm so confused why was Bly's bank so big in game 3 like he had thousands of minerals and didn't do anything with it for so long
@zegikniet9999
@zegikniet9999 29 күн бұрын
say puns intended one more time...
@theculturedgentleman3699
@theculturedgentleman3699 29 күн бұрын
I miss Serral 🫤
@YuNherd
@YuNherd 28 күн бұрын
very close game 1
@rayyu737
@rayyu737 29 күн бұрын
Bly has a lot of savings but can't get 200/200. 😂😂😂😂
@muttinnittin6527
@muttinnittin6527 29 күн бұрын
Achievement unlocked 😀😀👍👍
@Derflingerblade
@Derflingerblade 25 күн бұрын
Looks like a gold vs gold matchup.
@akmurate
@akmurate Ай бұрын
Ghosts are mudafukas.
@ryanfurey5465
@ryanfurey5465 16 күн бұрын
Why have ghosts been so strong for so long? They do everything nearly.
@SerbanOprescu
@SerbanOprescu 24 күн бұрын
Clem was the superior player all along.
@Suddenthecat
@Suddenthecat 28 күн бұрын
Wish I could play like this. But I cannot get out of bronze because I'm just that bad.
@christianmathew398
@christianmathew398 23 күн бұрын
Now I see why Bly is one of the worst Zerg players around
@andreykrafc8305
@andreykrafc8305 29 күн бұрын
Bly has interesting play style, all the time a lot of action, Clem so powerful player but even Bly loses he give us interesting games, Thanks!
@iamtree4764
@iamtree4764 3 күн бұрын
we need the bly seral arcon
@bothpinkysbroken
@bothpinkysbroken 29 күн бұрын
Nice
@TowerSavant
@TowerSavant 29 күн бұрын
Big fan of my macro turns. You should get an email shortly letting you know it's your turn again soon friendo.
@sickpuppy1354
@sickpuppy1354 29 күн бұрын
Where some sunscreen or be eviscerated by ultras 😂
@DotteeG
@DotteeG 29 күн бұрын
Bly vs GuMiHo when
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