This Is How Zerg Was Meant To Be Played. StarCraft 2 Finals

[@dunngyllite7883]

The Thors being surrounded by a bunch of changeling groupies who all wanted to take a selfie with them was pure comedy gold :)

[@Zeuskabob1]

Rogue is really the shining star of Zerg. Dark's chaotic gameplay and fierce timing attacks are a wonder to see, and Serral's indefatigable macro behind insane micro wins him games at the top end, but Rogue is really showing how more typical Zerg can compete with Terran in the late game.

[@ironmonkey1512]

Mutas and swarm hoasts in the same round warms my heart!

[@chipd4911]

Having probably now watched probably a good 5k hours of SC2, it was nice to see variety in that game with the changeling grief on the thors. What a fighter Byun was.

[@miza6]

At one hour a day that would take you 13.5 years. SC2 came out in 2010. Everything appears in order here. appreciate your commitment to the cause.

[@georgeromaniajr.2680]

I’m a professional viewer as well

[@chipd4911]

@@miza6 Why is it inconceivable that you wouldn't watch an hour a day? And, yes, I've been watching since before archon toilets were a thing ;) Very easy to have it on the background for several hours while working too. Always one person who's cynical. If you were to watch a few content creators religiously for a few years, you'd have ended up watching close to the same.

[@miza6]

@@chipd4911 you misunderstand me friend. I did the math on it and your story checks out and I’m proud of you! All good, we all the same medivac here!

[@karlo7w]

Just think how good us addicted sc2 watchers could be if we actually played the game for half that time😂. But there’s no GET OFF MY CREEEEEP voice line in the actual game unfortunately so it’s unplayable

[@LucianDevine]

When 52 Mutas didn't get the job done, the Zerg hivemind called on Sir Richard, the first of his name, to do that which nothing else could!

[@Chauzuvoy]

I feel like mutas as a way to force a response in that situation was kind of brilliant actually. That was enough mutas that had he not responded with thors/ghosts/freedom it may have gone poorly, which werent well-equipped to deal with the swarm hosts and lings following up. If Byun had tried to respond less drastically (or if Rogue had better drained his money so he couldn't) the mutas end it.

[@LegendaryRiot]

Rogue really did embody Zerg here. Attacking where his opponent wasn’t. Not a base trade but effective and strategical aggression.

[@911bobiscool]

Rogue is fuking making enough Overseers to permanently disable all production buildings... But instead he craps out an army of pooplings that cant attack... True genius.

[@Flash4ML]

Honestly I wonder if he’s waiting to bust out the mass contaminate move for a big tournament, no use wasting that element of surprise on the ladder

[@PJOZeus]

Going through all of that can still take a heavy toll Constant vision and free nydus', let alone taking up so much apm, that's already heavily worth it - and if they give up trying to stop the changelings then they become even stronger Contaminte is hardly worth it, I mean they can put up a handful of missile turrets and it immediately becomes too costly to do it

[@artemisspawnofzeus7732]

As a tech switch esque move though. You force a trade of supply and then fly through the base one time and you shut down all production for 30 seconds. Rogue can then rebuild while his opponent cannot. ​@PJOZeus

[@AJ-happydad]

Who are you?

[@SeviersKain]

dude has transcended this game into another form of Arts -- like Chess play...holy crap, this dude is crazy smart... !!! Like 40 years Michael Jordan playing NBA...lol...literally !!!

[@33shin33]

shout out for the map creators this first map is so beautiful it's a joy to watch.

[@VictorF0326]

Abyssal Reef is such a great map visually. Glad it's back in the rotation from the past.

[@theculturedgentleman3699]

I think Rogue and Dark went to the same school where they were taught: "scissors beats paper right?" "Yes, but No...not if you throw in so much of it the scissors snap in two before it can cut anything"

[@sin7317]

winter: "I like them large" me: "pause" winter: "say hi to your mother" 💀

[@loudaccord]

You sir, are an amazing caster

[@rumar4u]

Nice - Mornings with Rogue vs. any Terran is better than most championship finals

[@TysonJensen]

"You shall not!" "they're gone." "I had a whole bit" 🤣🤣

[@DrBorisG]

Well, in universe the Liberator was supposed to be based on the Valkyrie, I think those Mutas demonstrated that spirit is still alive and well.

[@TimmyInTarky]

14:38 that changeling dies of heart attack apparently, because the SINGLE projectile (usually are two) from the Banshee still hasn't left the rocket pod

[@scarletspidernz]

its one of actors that act before the cue 😂

[@LexFicta]

Dark: "Oh, you're a **villain** alright! Just not a **SUPER** one!" Rogue: "What's the difference?" Dark: " **Presentation!** "

[@colinfraser7150]

I feel like Dark is Pegasus where Rogue is Vegeta. Dark: "Oh how lovely! Did you see this coming too??!" Rogue: I WILL BEAT YOU, I AM BETTER, THIS WILL WORK!...FUCK, OKAY ASSHOLE, HOW BOUT...EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!"

[@LexFicta]

​@@colinfraser7150 Nonsense. Dark is obviously the Joker, while Rogue is Madara Uchiha. Dark: "Cackles maniacally while doing genius nonsense." Rogue: "But now... just what are you going to do about the **second** one?"

[@colinfraser7150]

@@LexFicta I don't know enough Naruto to contest this point, I therefore humbly concede. WP.

[@LexFicta]

@@colinfraser7150 I graciously accept your concession, good sir, while confessing that I (much like Dark) am mostly making this up as I go. WP to you in turn.

[@Ole_Rasmussen]

I love your thumbnails, just 500 supply of whatever unit you wanna show 💀

[@LucianDevine]

Especially in this case with Sir Richard, the first of his name, and his merry band of Swarm Host brethren!

[@skidrat55]

A SHARK......a shark

[@AlaskanHuzky]

14:03 Marine trap against tank, got killed by another tank.

[@tonytiger2004]

ok you said!!! give us 2 or 3 of these a day even the mirror matches, that TvT was so funny!!! love this stuff!!!

[@dhelsel89]

It’s hard to express how excited I was when ByuN started researching Caduceus Reactor, only for it to be denied! What an emotional roller coaster.

[@ddenozor]

It was the one time he researched it and it was denied. Byun was so upset about that he didn't even gg.

[@draknor7730]

Finally!!! I get to see what is always making those shadows! It just adds more questions though...

[@sagan61]

This is amazing. Best SC2 game I’ve seen in a while so original

[@djnone8137]

My life gets better every single day this guy releases another video. Im the oldest starcraft player, I do believe. I still have an overclocked p4 based on single core architecture just for this game.

[@yugonostalgia8961]

49:00 @WinterStarcraft very excited for your new release schedule of 2 SC2 matches a day! One mirror matchup & one clickbait matchup everyday sounds perfect

[@psychegamez9709]

BRO thank you for the slight FPS recommend about the sound thing and channels. I just play 1v1 but sometimes with all the ling bane and creep vs marines I drop FPS. TY for the tip man. Love the vids!

[@izaakkemp8938]

"37 mutas! Are you high?!" Lol

[@joshualocke7551]

Felt obligated to leave a comment after having watched so many videos. I don’t even play this game; I never have. KZbin just decided I would probably like this content and they were absolutely correct. Your commentary is so so good at making this accessible even to someone that literally has zero idea what’s going on, to the point where I’m already judging player decisions and identifying lost positions as if I have any idea what’s going on. Wonderful content.

[@Cephalopopo]

So you are basically behaving like a typical diamond terran player without never having played the game lol

[@mbran031]

Rogue's sense for the timing and tactics of ending matches is second to none. Other zergs only win macro games through a slow war of attrition, but Rogue just gets in and bullies his opponent out the match in one fell-swoop.

[@jessejames5452]

Denying the upgrade that final game is why I think he turtled up like that. He knew he could defend and push.

[@Dreamcastle1522]

My night became a little bit better. Thanks Winter.

[@GotEmAll1337]

23:30 so nice to see braindead A-move Terran EZ mode splash damage absolutely vaporize a group of units 20x it's value in literally 2 seconds. It's only fair, it's not like Terran has anything else that hard counters mutas...I mean, sure there's Marines, widOP mines, ghosts, thors, vikings, and BCs... but liberators should also hard counter them because mutas are *super strong and useful units* and definitely not tickle cannons made of wet tissue paper

[@davidstud3952]

@@GotEmAll1337 Mutas are a joke nowadays. Sad to see after them being such an iconic unit since BW

[@pitecusH]

Same goes for zerg man. Mass produce lurkers and win the game. I'm tired of seeing that.

[@dawgamonggators]

@@pitecusH Rogue made 15 lurkers at the 15 minute mark and the game didnt end for another 15 minutes. 0 Lurkers on the field when Rogue finally ended the game. Lurkers are not an issue

[@pitecusH]

@@dawgamonggators Not in this particular game. I have ben referencing many games across the last few weeks I've watched Winter's commentary on.

[@SD-jf7nb]

Never underestimate Libs as AA, they stack really nicely. Second, don't attack while the parabomb is still going, wait till HP reduction has maxed, as units affected are still doing max DPS.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

Rogue is like Dark with good macro oh my god thank you winter

[@NomadicDruidinthenight]

You couldn't think of anything funnier for the end of that bit. Im dying.

[@bvyner5727]

Love the lord of the rings music behind it!

[@BlueTiberium5198]

Ggs we love ya Winter ❤

[@Mythriaz]

Im glad the swarm is starting to finally look like it's playing like a swarm. At least moreso.

[@OfficialCptAJones]

I hit the like button at the beginning of the video because Winter never fails to make it entertaining.

[@robbieclark7244]

Great to see Byun switch up the build a bit and... Not get tanks in g3... Very creative. More Gumiho please! Worlds best terran. Bless you fr the casts. Sleepless nights with a newborn just got a little bit better

[@aidanholden0]

50:00 - 3 a day? Winter. Please let us build the momentum for Winter's cup. i'm sure there's plenty of puns here

[@michael_v92]

"ah! I was reading that!" 😂

[@matthewjenkins914]

The battle report at 25:58 showed that ByuN killed one of his own Thor's lol

[@Cellus5000]

What i think is so funny about this style against clem is that mass tank shuts it down and you dont even have to micro

[@PJOZeus]

Whichever style you're talking about, no Definitely do have to micro, no micro means death

[@LucianDevine]

@@PJOZeus Especially to friendly fire.

[@PJOZeus]

@@LucianDevine One of many issues yeah Gold peak berating byun and clem saying they don't understand what they're doing

[@LucianDevine]

@@PJOZeus Heh, yeah. There's a reason they don't understand what the pros are doing, and it's because the pros are so far ahead of them, that they can't even begin to picture the strategy, let alone how to counter it, let alone in time to matter.

[@PJOZeus]

@@LucianDevine it's the skill graph confidence is at the highest when they have no clue, or all the clue - and it's evident which one this is

[@Phantasmogorica]

Made it to the point in the video where Winter says he reads the comments so here you go, ilu ❤

[@annonamous647]

Hey Winter, what was that song you were hinting at at the 16:57 mark?

[@lordpickaxe788]

I don't even play Starcraft, I'm just here for Winter' commentary 😂

[@SoKoRoN]

thanks bro !

[@typoko]

I gotta say, looking at several of Rogue's games this year, Artosis wasn't as crazy as he sounded.

[@LiamFC90]

Now that's a thumbnail

[@betlogboy3]

Bruh.. the calculator bit got me.

[@james-k7o9b]

'Speedlings' need a speed buff

[@ramonluque1850]

A SHARK!!!

[@SahoriEnvy]

Rogue is hellbent into having a zerg unit nerfed in his name

[@Konspiradlo]

I just realised that I like Winters humor because it's similar to mine but a little.. bit .. better

[@leafykille]

More mirror matches!

[@mathieuwilson2985]

Lol! thanks for casting that game! ahahaha

[@renni9270]

I wish they added a object that creates the giant shadow on oceanborn

[@bongkem2723]

sound quality and channels tweak is great

[@scarletspidernz]

They should give the changelings the ability to do 1 dps, imagine the chaos 😂

[@Raptanax]

I wonder how ultras would need to change for them to be useful at pro levels? They can be quite scary at lower levels.

[@tovedetered]

1:50 That's crazy that that is how thery are made lol

[@FianFainFiatFaitArkangelCalel]

Hi winter I get to see many games yet hardly comment great stuff shared here

[@BinxyBrown]

Ultras are sick they need to give them 3 more armor or something, make them immune to bullets lol

[@Rektek97]

50:20 let's hope we can enjoy some high quality starcraft content for many more years to come. :)

[@swanky147]

Just based on the thumbnail, this is going to be the best day of my life

[@james-k7o9b]

Here fot the best villainous nature

[@TimmyInTarky]

After game 1 I can go to sleep and know I'll dream pink dreams

[@shiftymack5197]

❤ Micro Jackson

[@nemrothx]

I genuenly spat out my drink when i saw Micro Jackson :)

[@eugenegalinov4184]

Looks like the new patch is working, I don't see any turtling

[@kw8295]

"The floor is Lurkers" I think I'd prefer Lava in this case thank you

[@kthxbaiz]

23:29 if you wanna watch 20 mutas die at once

[@diazalex5314]

Rogue uses nydus in the shortest distance fight

[@blunts4brekfast]

"This is how zerg was meant to be played." Of course it's Rogue.

[@tommy271987]

I want to see if it works to play against Clem 😅

[@cathulionetharn5139]

Thank You Om nom nom

[@natecw4164]

23:55 Balance Council: Muta seems a bit strong, Thor might need a small AOE buff 😩

[@Twiixq]

Has been reverted :p

[@matrion15]

Thank u winter ❤

[@julianmhu]

49:50 @winterstarcraft the problem is that somehow, you will cast 5 series in a week and lowko will cast the exact same 5 series in the week, just in a different order. So clearly there isn't that much good starcraft going on when the overlap is so consistent. It ends up with me being able to watch content for say, Monday to Wednesday, and then the rest of the week your channel and lowko will be repeats of what I already saw. Since I prefer your sarcasm to his singing, I've just had to give up on his channel and check in on it on Sundays in case there's anything you haven't already cast -- typically not. I'd love twice the starcraft though.

[@mrherrada797]

just finished matching socks, and IT'S STILL GAME 1???

[@megamanx2293]

It's OK Brenda I love you ❤

[@JollyGreenWizard]

Hey, we got ZvZ and TvT - where's my obligatory PvP??

[@The_answer42]

Try the 9th circle of hell.

[@LucianDevine]

@@The_answer42 Where it belongs.

[@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging]

BRENDA!!

[@vic1ous511]

Lib anti-air attack should get a rework or just straight up a nerf They should still be useful but not dominating completely like in G1

[@LucianDevine]

Lmao, the anti-air attack is basically useless except in this specific case, and maybe against mass Corruptor. 1v1, it loses to pretty much everything.

[@OnigoroshiZero]

@@LucianDevine they can slightly buff the damage but remove the AoE. That fight in game 1 was stupid at best, and required 0 micro from the Terran but still obliterated a massive Mutalisk army in less than 3 seconds.

[@nfzeta128]

@@LucianDevine it's not supposed to be an anti-air unit. It SHOULD lose pound for pound to any actual air unit.

[@LucianDevine]

@@nfzeta128 Except that it is supposed to have an anti-air attack, otherwise it would just be a Banshee that can't cloak but can siege. AoE is supposed to beat the things it counters. That's how it works.

[@nfzeta128]

@@LucianDevine having an attack and being anti-air are not the same thing. It's a supplementary thing, like HT can technically auto attack, and corruptors can damage buildings but it's basically only as clean up or when they have free reign

[@Lambaro]

can somone help me knpow the song at 33:01 ty :=)

[@Void170]

how rouge plays vs clem?

[@Twiixq]

Same type of gameplay than game 1 and 3, look at an older winter's video, like 1/2 months ago bo5 rogue vs clem. *Spoiler* There is a clip where we see clem smashing his keyboard of rage at the end of the bo ^^ *spoiler*

[@User__Not__Found]

Petition for the Oversight Committee to be known as an HoA run entirely by Karens.

[@dontpokethekenny]

BYUn is afraid to use Liberators

[@roncho]

13:22😂.... bro i wan to see rogue vs serral... rogue is on fire recently

[@eldenbling2615]

How many counters to mutas do Terran players need? Marines, Ghosts, Liberators, Missile Turrets, Thors all counter them wtf

[@gerbenrampaart8042]

I can’t in good conscience keep watching this channel as my mother continues to get insulted. But I’ll probably do it anyway.

[@matiashamalainen7965]

Game one was sad snapshot of the state of the balance. Zerg is absolutely dominating the Terran yet is unable to finish the game before 30 minutes. It's a joke.

[@kagebunshinnn]

tier 3 Zerg is so bad right now. Either buff both the Ultra and the Broodlord or nerf Ghost into oblivion

[@robertcartledge826]

rogues do it from behind! :D

[@leafykille]

20.20 yes

[@VictorF0326]

Look a hot take but detection should really detect the changelings. Just saying

[@ryanj610]

Terran gets an APM sink (Widow mine) but Zerg can't? Changeling's are just annoying compared to game ending.

[@miza6]

Ultras need more armor, just unkillable hulks

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

bold of winter to assume that 22 death scv's even concern a terran in the slightest lmao imagine a zerg losing close to 70 drones in under 15 minutes and still going.... lmao byun didnt "gg" xD

[@min009]

Rouge decided to do a unit test in an actual match. Can 35 muta take on 10 libs if you parasitic bomb one. The answer is no.