Time to make a part 2. You forgot to show us the rudder-twist, forgot to mention that the Winwing joystick vibrates and didn't show us if MSFS2020 detects the joystick.
@nemon985714 күн бұрын
Or you could just be grateful that he spent his time and money to give us a review on the product.
@nascimentol83513 күн бұрын
Yeah, because a major flght sim company like WinWing is gonna release a joystick wich isn't ''detected'' in MSFS2020.......
@BernyBit2Berny21 сағат бұрын
i can’t thank you enough for the clarity you bring to your topics! ☀️
@sk8guitardrums25 күн бұрын
Great in depth review XP72. the Winwing flight stick mechanics is some what similar to the VKB inside the workings. i do feel the VKB looks more sturdy, robust & heavier design and it comes with different tension springs, spare parts and tools. The VKB you just change out the stick as its separates from the base, i do think this Winwing stick is removable, its got the similar 3 screws underneath.
@capt.ab943225 күн бұрын
😮😮 that means preorders should be coming soon!! Love it xp ty for the review
@dial_a_flap25 күн бұрын
Real Airbus sidestick is very dampened back to netural. It doesn't "snap" like the Thrustmaster.
@NegdoshaManido24 күн бұрын
I fly the A320 irl and the stick is very dampened. Tough to say which one has the more realistic travel, since I've never taken a tape measure to work and measured the travel. I would have to get the WW in hand to make a good comparison between it and the irl A320 stick. Right now, I am using a Virpil WarBird gimbal with an A320 grip (I don't remember who makes the grip, but it's very realistic) and the tension is good with the springs I have installed. I also have the TM Airbus stick, and I found it to be just ok, but for someone who is accustomed to the real thing, completely unacceptable.
@XP72official24 күн бұрын
Great to know. Thanks
@user-se5uz7cp8u25 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your unboxing. Missile launch or Push to talk, the winwing wins on ergonomic. Under the cap You have a trim control for helicopter, i have it on search and rescue to slide left or right.
@mnsportsfan888925 күн бұрын
Do we know the price? i use the basic Thrustmaster yoke and quad. Ive been looking for an upgrade for a few years. I bought the Thrustmaster captains pack last year and the side stick did not work with Xplane 11.
@ConqueringLion425 күн бұрын
Great review XP! Looking forward to the Boeing mcp and mcdu
@XP72official25 күн бұрын
Yes sir
@Jenairaslebol27merde18 күн бұрын
the winwing obviously has a surprisingly good dampening ... but there is also one more pro to mention for the thrustmaster: the twist axis. some might use it for rudders if no pedals available, but if you have pedals, the twist grip comes in super handy as a tiller axis.
@1996095925 күн бұрын
Just received Winwing Ursa Minor, and it feels miles ahead of TCA, the damping is adjustable. I adjust the damping to max, and oh boy it’s feel so fucking good❤
@vrotate832424 күн бұрын
How long does it take to receive? I just bought it and I'm already looking forward to it
@vagp805523 күн бұрын
What are its dimensions?
@1996095923 күн бұрын
@@vrotate8324 I live in Taiwan, so I bought it from Taobao China, which is where Winwing from. It took about 7 days to get it on my hands.
@1996095923 күн бұрын
@@vagp8055 dimensions in what? Its size is perfect and not that heavy IMO.
@OzzySafa25 күн бұрын
The real airbus side stick is super damp and heavier compared to the thrustmaster one
@lol-j7u25 күн бұрын
there is a guy that mad it (2800rmb) really good
@Aleksandar6ix25 күн бұрын
I'd go for the TM for versatility. Can use it for helicopter and space sim, therefore better value even if it feels cheap
@DerbeQ24 күн бұрын
Any chance you could confirm that the Winwing stick could be mounted on a TCA Flying Clamp?
@JohnOddo-gt2qe25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review, now I don't know what one I'm going to get LOL
@XP72official25 күн бұрын
lol.
@WnDTech24 күн бұрын
Yeah no twist action, this is important for me, because the thrustmaster side stick has issues with this over time, both of mine had the same issue, which I managed to fix very easy.
23 күн бұрын
That is normal to feel the Thrustmaster bouncing more (spring effect) since the travel is longer. For the test you did, you should move less the TCA axes. Anyway, good comparison.
@realrakimcrazy2k25 күн бұрын
do you live in the usa because when i was on the website it does not deliver to the usa
@vagp805523 күн бұрын
What are its dimensions Winwing Airline Joystick?
@lvwpy25 күн бұрын
What about the sensors? Does the Winwing come with Hall Effect sensors?
@Fus-111123 күн бұрын
From another video yes they are.
@lvwpy23 күн бұрын
@@Fus-1111 thanks for the info!
@lonestaraviator25 күн бұрын
Love it XP!
@owenklein191724 күн бұрын
Have you ever considered making a mini home cockpit like the Airbus cockpit winwing had on display at the expo? It seems like it would be super fun and with winwing being super cheap, it would actually be affordable lol
@XP72official24 күн бұрын
I like that idea.
@bradvanefsky208025 күн бұрын
Great review
@airrd25 күн бұрын
I got the Thrustmaster sidestick already, not that satisfied with it. Do you think this would be worth the "upgrade".
@XP72official25 күн бұрын
A question first. What were you lot satisfied with on the Thrustmaster?
@airrd25 күн бұрын
@@XP72official The stick twist for example has stick drift, so the inputs aren't right anymore or it gives inputs on its own. Secondly, the build quality feels genuinely cheap and lightweight.
@andrehenry482525 күн бұрын
I have the winwing FCU. Overall a great product but winwing really needs to make their products plug n play without the need to download third party software. Huge difference IMO
@tf6shawnn11 күн бұрын
Can you twist it for tiller?
@XP72official11 күн бұрын
@tf6shawnn yes
@CactusBravo4225 күн бұрын
Does it have the twist axis for tiller?
@XP72official25 күн бұрын
Yes it does, have a twist axis for tiller. I forgot to mention that.
@normg224224 күн бұрын
The removable springs are for helicopter flying.
@idkhowtoexplain20 күн бұрын
To me, the WinWing Joystick feels sturdier and has a better overall feel. My Thrustmaster joystick is made of plastic that feels cheap, whereas the plastic used in the WinWing joystick appears to be of higher quality and doesn't feel cheap. Overall, it's a great product and a great review!
@rapidrapid258924 күн бұрын
Keep doing what you're doing
@Tacticalpanda75712 күн бұрын
My space stick and flight stick are on preorder... just waiting
@Lightwriter124 күн бұрын
This is only the surface of a comparison. How do the sticks "behave" in the simulator? How does it "feel" while using it in an Airbus but also for example in a helicopter? Please a part 2 ;-) ;-)
@XP72official24 күн бұрын
I’d think you’d have to calibrate it for each aircraft like I do with every stick I have. Dunno 🤷
@hpharold2325 күн бұрын
In terms of resistance and feel, I say the TCA Sidestick has and edge over the Winwing,
@Cookie2k25 күн бұрын
Looks good but what about a throttle quadrant?
@XP72official25 күн бұрын
That would be good from them as well.
@Cookie2k25 күн бұрын
@@XP72official fingers crossed! 🙏🏼 Btw…the removable panel on the bottom of the joystick reveals the adjustable dry clutch damper 🙂
@XP72official25 күн бұрын
@Cookie2k thanks. That damper feels good.
@MalShakur23 күн бұрын
Doesn't seem like it's night and day difference or a reason enough to toss my thrustmaster to the side, especially when I may only hand fly the Airbus for all of 10 minutes, if that. Thanks for the video anyhow.
@A350Boss724 күн бұрын
the real airbus sidestick has lots of travel and is very damp. If thrust master makes theirs as dampened as the winwing or even more, I would pick the thrust master over winwing. I mean right now i would still pick thrustmaster over winwing because I like having the travel.
@FGCH0323 күн бұрын
In all the reviews they never peel off the pads they just mention it try but no complete.
@NuWhite25 күн бұрын
5:56 Ahahah... they blatantly completely copied the gimbal from the Gladiator NXT without any changes, lol
@ddobagi_154024 күн бұрын
Updated apps to support vibration motors in MSFS. Does it work well with MSFS? If it does, does it vibrate when running down the runway during takeoff and landing? Or is it just a brief vibration on landing touchdown and that's it?
@jjstevenz25 күн бұрын
the real sidestick has less travel and more dampening
@johnnicolucci38025 күн бұрын
Will these work with xbox?
@mellewisselo802525 күн бұрын
Nope
@XP72official25 күн бұрын
I don’t think so.
@johnnicolucci38025 күн бұрын
Too bad.
@shaanfliesplanes25 күн бұрын
I’m surprised that Thrustmaster hasn’t put a patent on their product
@laughintrollface25 күн бұрын
kinda hard when they are just replicas of the airbus side stick. nothing to really copyright
@Fr4Ged25 күн бұрын
They probably have but Winwing cared about it as much as for the VKB Gladiator gimbal which they copied. lol
@theflyinggasmask25 күн бұрын
Which patent? An Airbus themed PC joystick? lmfao
@OzzySafa25 күн бұрын
Thrustmasters product is licensed by airbus. No idea why it’s taken us this long to get low price haptics in a side stick when we’ve had it in game controllers for years
@LightYear_Studios21 күн бұрын
Have the Thrustmaster Airbus system but because of the throttle unit cheapness there is no resistance in the throttle and is deemed useless worst thrustmaster product I bought. Joystick and Spoiler / flaps is fine but the throttle sticks are a joke