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[@jjbizzare96]

"It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they've been fooled" and this woman breaks this down beautifully

[@godrickstockwell1505]

I read a study once that discussed why people hold on to false beliefs even when presented with new information. It showed through brain scans and bloodwork that people's bodies react to something challenging a long held belief the same way they react to a physical attack. I wish i could remember who did the study because it was super interesting

[@hiddendrifts]

@@godrickstockwell1505 >the same way they react to a physical attack< if you think about it, it kinda makes sense. at a certain point, that belief becomes part of your core identity. so if someone attacks that belief, it's almost like they're attacking you personally

[@godrickstockwell1505]

@@hiddendrifts yeah I suppose if you think about it like that it makes sense, I hadn't considered that. I also know that our brains like things to be simple so if someone comes along and says, "all these bad things that are happening are because of this one group" it makes us feel better because we think if we can beat that one group everything will be ok. We don't like the idea that stuff just randomly happens for no reason.

[@hiddendrifts]

@@godrickstockwell1505 >our brains like things to be simple< funnily enough, that's basically what a twitch streamer i watch says. i remember him making the point that politicians can't campaign based on abstract concepts that are hard to understand, bc then the voters don't understand what they're voting for. but they can campaign based off of "i'll lower your taxes" bc that's easy to rally voters around

[@cartoonkeeper]

Also when it comes to the placebo effect associated with crystals I like to call it the childhood lucky object affect we all had that one friend when we were kids who had that one special object that they believed had magical properties that somehow allowed them to do a thing when they had it but then one day they unknowingly forgot the lucky object and still successfully did it anyway because they believed they still had that object only to realize later that they forgot it and still pulled off the thing they thought they couldn't do without that object

[@engruls06]

I WISH this woman would sit down and give my entire family a lesson on reality.

[@dr.andrealove]

Happy to give it a shot!

[@Its_just_Avi]

​@@dr.andrealove please tell my parents that not every thing can be cured by green tea just because it has anti-oxidants

[@nicholasj3213]

@@dr.andrealove not asked in the video but a deep dive on pseudo science in special needs community needs to be done. These people are going wild in Facebook and DCs are fleecing people for large sums of money through supplements and other “therapies”.

[@tomsweder7459]

Somehow, I doubt they would learn the lesson.

[@GlorifiedTruth]

Hmm, she answers wishes. I WISH this woman would have dinner with me.

[@NineAtoms1]

The people who need to watch this probably won't.

[@Delaynaanimatesstuff]

Unfortunately people who need knowledge enjoy ignorance.

[@emilywagner6354]

Or they'll blow it off as "fake news." They always have an answer.

[@OlEgSaS32]

and even those who decide to try and watch this will toss it all away with "aaagh shes getting paid by big pharma/illumnaiti/literally anyone to discredit those who are AcTuAlLy telling ThE TrUtH"

[@PSiGaming]

Bold of you to assume the people who need to watch this can even understand this if they did.

[@gyneve]

They're too busy "doing their own insurance" to watch this.

[@lolli_popples]

I think a big reason Americans lose weight when traveling to Europe, despite eating more “unhealthy” food, is because a lot of popular destinations in Europe are designed to be more walkable, and when you are a tourist, you’re generally going to more places per day than you usually would.

[@sadkhan4887]

No it's the healthier food. Walking barely burns any calories. If you walk for 6 hours you'll burn as much calorie as 3 slices of pizza. Don't underestimate the efficiency of human body.

[@fiedelmina]

I am pretty sure it is the walking AND the healthier food.

[@crazyjds]

It’s never one thing, it’s always a combination of different factors including kinds diet(quality/volume), calorie balance(input/output) and type of activity. Walking/slow runs burns more fat than fast running so that plays a factor.

[@folkloreofbeing]

Conversly, when I, a Brit visited America for a month and a half, I went there skinny and came back fatter.

[@katelynnyangweso2961]

Also the portions and their food doesn't have all the bs additives and hormones etc ours does

[@catman6089]

the biggest problem with social media and misinformation is that you can convince someone of misinformation in 60 seconds, but it would probably take you 5-10 minutes to explain why that information is incorrect

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

And because it takes so long and might be complicated, they'd rather discard that information and go with the easier answer, an answer with zero evidence or peer review.

[@user-xh7rz6sh7t]

I think it's because a lot of people want the fastest and easiest way to "feel good". Hardly anyone wants to take the time to listen to an opposing thought or opinion.

[@RexZShadow]

​@@user-xh7rz6sh7t that the real answer, people want to feel good about themselves with no effort. Best way? Join a movement that "supposed" for good. Become blind sheep for people to manipulate so they can feel good about themselves.

[@alpyki2588]

​@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValleyNot to mention academic fraud is rampant nowadays, between plagarizing undergrads, using AI to write, using deceptive or insubstantial statistics and reporting methods, and just falsifying evidence. A paper that seems legitimate could be about as real as leprechaun gold. And by the time its called out, its spread too far in both professional fields and to the public. And that's not even touching upon modern day equivalent of lysenkoism, where people are politically motivated to push results that enforce their agenda rather than facts, and excommunicate those that disagree.

[@777Skeptic]

A lie will travel the world twice before the truth even puts its shoes on.

[@scottsutoob]

One red flag I hear often is the presenter telling us, “Doctors don’t want you to know this…”

[@kimberlyescalante3540]

Agree!

[@TKInternational76]

True! But... To their credit, there ARE some doctors who want you to keep coming for no reason. Don't know if it happens in the west or not

[@theoriginalmonstermaker]

​@@TKInternational76that is the precise problem with health care practitioners being paid per visit... which is why you can't trust alternative practitioners either. If you're paid when you see me, or use the opportunity to sell me products, you are motivated to keep me coming back.

[@Wowaniac]

@@TKInternational76 DOCTORS take something called the 'Hippocratic OATH' I would suggest you look it up. If you think and MD, DR, or PHD would have you waste their time to keep coming to them or their office for no reason.

[@novaprime2297]

Doctors HATE HIM!

[@riffhammeron]

You can tell your health influencer is full of it because they call themselves a health influencer

[@roetilliceline2917]

Yup! big clue

[@Atricks861]

Influencer is a trendy way to say salesman

[@prescribedburn]

That's a bingo!

[@Muppet-kz2nc]

lots of Doctors of chiropractic (D.C.s). theyre always out of scope.

[@joanna0988]

​@@Muppet-kz2nc My back surgeon actually recommended chiropractic treatments. They do help and are better than taking pain killers and in many cases better than having risky back surgery.

[@larkermouse]

The "all or none" thing really gets me. So many health fads and diets want people to cut out something 100% based on some questionable study that suggested eating 10kg per day of it could maybe cause problems.

[@britney901]

"If you have organs, you're already detoxing all day every day." Well said.

[@99loops]

Right? That's what the liver is for. Good job it can repair itself, so long as your cease destructive habits.

[@LolitaBonitaaa]

I have no more energy left in me to keep telling people that no one needs to actively "detox" their body of anything.

[@albedougnut]

And if you do not have organs, then you do not need to worry about detoxing in the first place.

[@shruggzdastr8-facedclown]

If your kidneys and liver, etc. are functioning properly, and aren't being stressed by over-consumption of alcohol, and/or poor nutrition/dietary habits, and/or diseases that afflict those organs, then yes

[@sapphiresupernova]

Kidneys, liver, intestines, and bladder already have you covered. 👍🏼 Well, if they're working correctly.

[@CleroxApathy]

Imagine the amount of frowning you must go through as a biomedical scientist, surrounded by family, friends and the internet spreading myths for decades, which you try debunking on a regular basis. My sincerest thanks to all actual scientists (like her) who are not giving up on educating the general public. This has been one of the most crucial videos I have seen on KZbin in the past years.

[@sadboihype]

I took a psychology of pseudoscience course in university and I learned all of this, but I also tell people it makes me a really unpopular buzzkill at parties😂

[@dinglesworld]

@@sadboihypeOnce you learn about the mind and its frailty…you never go back 💔

[@Pepa14pig]

I’m a mathematician, my brother is a doctor. Can you imagine the agony we went through during COVID when everyone was interpreting validity of vaccines and the results of researches…

[@AlexRyan]

NEWSFLASH: Nobody CARES about your fancy degree or your opinions on health influencers. They care about your ability to meet their unmet needs. Their biggest unmet need in medicine is a need for TRUST. Why does that need exist? Because YOU destroyed our trust in your profession, big mouth! The medical profession has completely destroyed itself by doing the bidding of Big Pharma. Nobody TRUSTS you Being hyper aggressive against your competition is not going to save you. You are DONE! Big Pharma medical education is worse than useless. You are glorified pill pushers who can be easily replaced with ChatPT. This is called KARMA. I have ZERO sympathy for you. How many innocents died because of your incompetence? No amount of lashing out will EVER make us trust you again. Demand your money back for your useless degree.

[@sadhanagollapudi5958]

I'm a biomedical scientist, and it's truly frustrating to try and debunk misinformation to friends and family. Usually, I'm faced with a lot of resistance and scorn too!

[@flvffcinna]

Please bring this woman back. She explains so clearly and well. Honestly, I could watch her debunking myths for an hour.

[@tito2525]

kind of screaming though

[@Eloise_Please]

Always take it with a pinch of salt and fact check, because she's perpetuating some myths here, too, in regard to ionizing radiation and Lyme.

[@BirdmanPB]

@@Eloise_Please sick evidence you got there

[@flvffcinna]

@@Eloise_Please I don’t know, myths depends on your beliefs. I prefer to ignore them.

[@vanjaw1146]

she needs to come back and tell us how to get shiny and healthy hair 😍

[@Daemonkryn]

This doctor rocks. Really good at explaining things concisely without sacrificing being informative.

[@jonathanfoster4202]

BRING THIS WOMAN BACK!! We need this to be an ongoing series debunking all the health related misinformation and disinformation online, this could be a game changer

[@jennysmith9134]

While I think it is a good to try to explain things scientifically and in a rational way, I see two problems. 1. One person isn't going to have the required knowledge to be an expert in so many different topics (sure, better than the average person, but really misses many points) and 2. If someone holds a belief that isn't based in science, more science isn't going to convince them they are wrong.

[@BryanMontford]

@@jennysmith9134 What if anti-sceince beliefes are a result of not understanding science? (It sure looks a lot like not understanding science.) Exposure to good information is about the only way to combat it. That's kinda how literacy works.

[@Whooshta]

@@BryanMontford this! You have to repeat facts to dispel misinformation x10 before making an impact on the misinformed. We need more of this simply for the exposure to kill the rise in pseudoscience beliefs.

[@exileatsushi7165]

Amen brother

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

*_"BRING THIS WOMAN BACK!!"_* Why, where's she gone? This video was posted around May 28th, 2024. She's right here. {:o:O:}

[@patriciaa4451]

Anyone who uses the term “detox” to sell you a product or supplement: immediate red flag

[@Cosmic_Corpse22]

Yeah. Detox is a thing though, but it requires that you.....drink water. Just water. Nothing else in the water like lemon juice, cucumber or whatever. Your kidneys and liver do a great job at detoxing your body if you give it water.

[@janejustin1788]

The moment i hear an 'expert' or health influencer say the word detox, i immediately know they are fakes preaching pseudoscience

[@polycrystallinecandy]

All you need is a functioning lover Edit: liver 😅

[@stripedpants1668]

Poly don’t forget your kidneys and skin.

[@AIHumanEquality]

If only there was human organs that detoxed things for you. Like a liver or your kidneys.

[@Uncle_T]

"Health influencer" is actually a nowadays common misspelling of "charlatan", and some claim also "snake oil sales person".

[@gigisilk798]

Humans never cha ge, do they?😂 the old adages still hold up, so long as a fool and their money, etc. etc.

[@scottboyer6602]

Calling Dr. Gundry, white courtesy telephone.

[@EricOnYouTube]

🤣🤣🤣

[@naturaliscontentus5914]

Some good examples are the big pharma health influencers, like mainstream comedians, podcasters, and entire channels funded by the drug industry.

[@brianarbenz1329]

It also means, “incapable of making it through medical school, or holding a real job down.”

[@georgsimpson3378]

For everyone who did not catch her hint at 6:15 : the neuroscientist, with focus on visual nerve signalling and products to sell is Huberman ...

[@greasergrrl]

I did! 😂

[@chargv]

It's funny that at some point, she began to digress about cellphone towers and radio waves. Should I trust her as much as she tells me to trust Dr. Huberman? I am confused.

[@him050]

One red flag (here in the UK at least) is when someone refers to themselves as a “qualified nutritionist”. Nutritionist is not a protected term. The protected term is dietitian. Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist, so it begs the question, why aren’t they qualified enough to be able to call themselves a dietitian?

[@ronaisok]

As a Nutrition student in the UK (at least at my university) most of my modules and lectures are with dietetics students, the only major differences being their learning is more clinician focused (involving a placement) and graduating with a protected title. It's such a shame it isn't a protected title as there are plenty of Nutritionists with the right education and qualifications in a sea of people that can take a quick online course and give themselves the same name. However, the closest thing is being AfN certified (Association of Nutrition - a register which has specific criteria that people have to meet in order to say they're AfN certified). One of the ways to qualify for AfN is completing an accredited degree. Checking for either "RNutr" or "ANutr" in a person's information is a way to check if they're certified. 💛

[@StupidMusicalExperiments]

Like the difference between a dentist and a toothiologist.

[@DC_DC_DC_DC]

I want to know as well ​@@DeliriantOne

[@alihorda]

​@@DeliriantOnetime and money

[@zacharycampos7531]

Same in the US. Dietician has an RD exam and many have Masters in Nutrition, nutritionists have no credentialing

[@bkbff]

I am SO SICK of these scammers on TikTok and KZbin telling people that things like spinach and oats are bad for them. A not insubstantial percentage of the population struggles with orthorexia behaviors already, and now people are making them scared to eat vegetables! They say you basically can't eat anything so that you are forced to buy their supplements (or the food brands sponsoring them) in order to stay alive. All while not disclosing their financial relationships with the brands they endorse. It's absolutely disgusting.

[@bkbff]

@johnrecker Dazzle me with your medical expertise

[@Dan-kl2rw]

Vegetables are absolutely great for you, concerning oats make sure to consider how often you're eating them and how much. They are high in carbohydrates which get converted directly into glucose (sugar) and can spike your blood sugar. A lot of people see oats as a health food but its important that they consider this.

[@joanna0988]

Spinach is a high histamine food so for some people it is problematic. Oats are fine however recent testing showed high levels of chlormequat in Quaker and Cheerios products which is toxic and shouldn't be in food at all.

[@bkbff]

@@joanna0988 There are people who can't eat just about any food you can think of, that doesn't mean you tell everyone it's dangerous for them. We need consumer awareness, not sweeping generalizations that are only meant to make money for people who prey on folks with eating disorders.

[@bkbff]

@@Dan-kl2rw Instant oats aren't great, especially if sugar is added, but regular oats are a low-glycemic food. The fiber is beneficial. We need consumer awareness, not sweeping condemnations.

[@HaggenKennedy]

05:33 - When they: 1) are trying to evoke strong, negative emotions; 2) are making "all or none" statements; 3) are selling you something; 4) have a conflict of interest; and 5) are speaking outside of their area of expertise. Apply that to other areas of your life, such as religion, politics, food & health, etc. It might be eye opening.

[@ConnectingAudio]

1) Like Fauci did during the pandemic? 2) Like Fauci did during the pandemic? 3) like the drug manufactures and sponsored cable news shows did during the pandemic? I think you see where I'm going with this.

[@ryanaltfillisch7155]

@@ConnectingAudio Yes, we see you believe in propaganda and clearly didn't listen to the video.

[@NachoAE360]

@@ryanaltfillisch7155some of us can see both sides. Questioning everything IS scientific and admitting to having a bias either way is not.

[@nntflow7058]

@@NachoAE360 Questioning is very DIFFERENT than ACCUSING with FAKE PROOFS. Let's not confuse the two. That person is ACCUSING and didn't provide a single Proofs for their accusation. That's NOT Scientific.

[@ferrreira]

These same guidelines can be used to detect fake news.

[@EveryTimeV2]

Although vitamin D supplements may not help with COVID it is important to remember that Vitamin D is worth supplementing if you have low sun exposure and not necessarily for COVID either, but because Vitamin D deficiency is a real medical problem.

[@Min-Taro]

Whoever asked about radio frequency radiation probably doesnt know that we are exposed to ultraviolet radiation when we go out in the sun💀

[@Farimira]

But that does cause cancer... But they probably didn't understand about the different wavelengths

[@ania5038]

I feel sorry for people who have that fear because I know they exist and it's a genuine paranoia people have.

[@marek4429]

or visible light

[@BigUpYourself_101]

They also don’t know that our body actually EMITS radiation aka heat, which is why humans and animals show up on infrared cameras.

[@gjzgodd]

It's literally a spectrum. I am broadly against more telecoms towers because I don't see the utility of it myself, but I don't have a choice to avoid exposure (short of "living in the woods" - not possible in the UK). In my opinion it's the growth delusion, that more and bigger and faster is better. Why? Sure 5g might be considered safe and I accept that, but it is inherently more risky than not having it. As far as I'm concerned, we can all communicate just fine on 4g 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MPTurtleman]

It's so refreshing to hear someone say, "This is false," and speak only in facts.

[@xdemon5015]

And it's someone with the appropriate qualifications/credentials to speak about the topics at hand. I've seen some idiots online argue about medical notions that are completely wrong/fake and back up these notions with articles written by some dimwitted pandering journalist with no medical background whatsoever working for Forbes.

[@nicholasbrowning7410]

Especially when they are not trying to sell you something.

[@briganja]

I agree, but do you not hear that often? Asking because I am worried about the information environments that my peers and family normally engage in…

[@VexylObby]

Facts are probably too strict of a word. She is just showing great amount of evidence that other things are wrong. (But I get what you are saying)

[@edumazieri]

@@VexylObby Agreed, "fact" is always a strong word. I kinda liked that she got a little bit into what quality of evidence means, that part is absolutely important and everyone should be aware of it.

[@yommish]

Just seeing a video like this feels like an oasis for my sense of sanity. Anti-intellectualism seems so pervasive nowadays. It’s like people refuse to acknowledge what science actually is or the value of scientific studies and research.

[@Bell_414]

yes, truly. People will go to extends believing in conspiracies, dimensions what not, but won't try and understand the physical world they live in

[@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494]

​@@Bell_414This is so succinct. Thank you. THIS

[@woodstream6137]

She does seem to give a free pass to big pharma and big ag.

[@yommish]

@@woodstream6137 in what way?

[@woodstream6137]

@@yommish she dismissed organic pesticides claiming they kill beneficial insects too. Nothing about toxic affects of commercial pesticides. Same with herbicides. Never a bad word, even about glyphosphate

[@sunshinelizard1]

Part of the mistrust with Lyme disease is that for so long, doctors ignored symptoms and claimed people were having psychological issues rather than taking their physical symptoms seriously. When that happens, people are more likely to resort to misinformation and non-validated solutions. The kits came about because people were suffering long before Lyme disease was recognized and solutions were provided.

[@gookelli]

Girl you ate this up like crazy. You are my hero. Teachers need to start showing this video in class IMMEDIATELY.

[@PointTheJavelin]

Why? You're just advocating for a different form of indoctrination.

[@johncaccioppo1142]

So their kids will talk to everyone like snotty jackasses who justify every comment with "everyone knows this by now"?

[@Whaat--Now]

This is all already part of HS curriculum. I think people either forget or it changed after they left.

[@spvillano]

@@johncaccioppo1142 why, you're right, ignorance is bliss. GOD SAVE THE KING!

[@PavolMagic]

I'm afraid we actually need to show this to many teachers as well 😬

[@jacc.00]

she talks like a friend but also incredibly professional. idk how to explain it 😂

[@hello7032]

That’s how you can tell she knows what she’s talking about and is an excellent science communicator.

[@KateCarew]

She’s so confident in what she knows, she’s well versed and able to casually state things with authority without seeming condescending. She’s great 🙏🏻

[@hello7032]

@@KateCarew and explain things at a more simple level. That’s always my favorite sign of intelligence/knowledge, being able and willing to explain things

[@hello7032]

@@thehellezell and then they use your hesitation or lack of decisive rebuttal as an absence of credibility or knowledge (which is why debate is faulty and dumb and why bad faith players rely on it)

[@bach_in_a_minuet8700]

She talks like someone who has been pushed to her absolute limit and is absolutely fed up with people’s stupidity. I love it.

[@biancar481]

Honestly, so much of what she's talking about we teach in a regular HS science class. DNA, radiation, immune system responses, what science is and is not. If a teen gets it, why can't grown adults???

[@JP-ve7or]

You're assuming every kid pays attention in class and remembers years later. You are also assuming kids HAD science class when so many are homeschooled so their parents can teach them nonsense. (Sorry, I'm just really depressed about this topic.)

[@same5952]

Somewhere along the way to adulthood, some of them forget they knew that.

[@SnowyDae55]

I think another point is that science changes! If I were in high school in 1999, I would probably hear about the vaccines causing autism research - it would be a huge thing. But if I was in high school in 2015, I'd hear all about the retraction instead. Some people don't seek out science after they're done with school or some might think science isn't worth keeping up with because it changes - they might think it's just a complex lie.

[@ronaldelliott4373]

Good question! Perhaps we adults have really only learned to present a sense of infallibility that in reality is completely undeserved. We can all dispense with a lifelong pursuit of truth. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@jimidando]

The problem is rather that the children brain is open minded and has it easier to learn new things. If your job is not to learn new things then it's only natural for humans to live with the knowledge they've learned.

[@JEEBUSxHIMSELF]

so this should be a regular show. especially with food. trying to diet rn and cutting through the pseudoscience is a monumental task

[@thedave1771]

One note about homeopathy. It isn’t that the remedy gets more powerful the more it is diluted, rather, it is that it gets more powerful the more you are deluded.

[@tomleclair2109]

Another note: Vaccines (or so-called vaccines) are based on homeopathy which most people are duped (or deluded) into taking because they listen to mainstream medicine status quo which is all about keeping people in marginal health and reliant on the medical establishment rather than actually making people healthy.

[@anbuchelvan]

😂😂😂😂

[@Joshua-jk1om]

The placebo effect is strong amongst them.

[@bertberw8653]

GENIUS

[@luciusschulz3414]

*delulu-ed

[@uriahrodrigez3317]

She needs her own show. I can watch her do this all day. I even signed in to KZbin for the first time in like 6 years to comment and like. Giver her all the flowers, she cleared the room like a boss.

[@ZombiZohm]

She would first need to learn better speech patterns over Annunciation makes one sound like they are talking down to their audience

[@nordicmind82]

I got Lyme disease last year. Tick was just on me for a few hours. Became very visibly clear that I had gotten it a few days later. Thankfully I live in a civilization, so I just dropped by a hospital, got it confirmed, and got it treated right away. No issues since.

[@Triquetra15]

My sister got it years ago, but the tick was on her less than what the doctors said it would have to be. The medical community shortened the time span since. I think it’s important to recognize that current information may be correct, but not the full picture. Sometimes the scientific and medical community oversell their certainty and knowledge of a topic. Edit: Publicly facing individuals. People actually conducting science are usually more rigorous. However, those who are just talking about a study and don’t know much about a subject will often oversell their knowledge and certainty.

[@CharleneCTX]

Lyme disease is pretty much unheard of it in Texas, but my husband got bit while traveling. Went to our doctor who had never seen it before. Fortunately, she's willing to say "I don't know", looked it up, treated him, and he's been fine since.

[@LiveAlcheme]

Was the tick on you or embedded?

[@grayfordays]

That’s great, and I’m glad for you… if you become aware of the tick and infection quickly. Less than 50% present with a rash and many people don’t know they’ve had a tick for weeks or more.

[@ShermTank7272]

Is this how we can finally get through to pseudoscience fanatics? Make anecdotal claims of our own but using real modern medicine instead of fake crap?

[@williamc4221]

If you've heard .0000000000000001 homeopathy jokes, you've heard them all.

[@cablehogue599]

😅

[@jopo7996]

I can't believe she's making fun of pseudoscience. Me and the bloodletting leeches on my skin all had a good laugh.

[@TheLoneMitten]

It sounds stupid but I could see desperately coming up with bloodletting as a treatment back in the day. A lot of illnesses travel through the blood.

[@conwaytwittyer2667]

@@TheLoneMittenFun Fact: technically bloodletting and leeching are still practiced for very very specific medical purposes. Yeah, it’s called Leech Therapy and Therapeutic Phlebotomy.

[@CorbCorbin]

@@conwaytwittyer2667 So is chiropractics, acupuncture and a myriad of other pseudoscientific practices.

[@fusionwing4208]

@@CorbCorbin since they do have very specific benefits, at least for temporary relief, but its always still the best choice to see a doctor and get a proper treatment going.

[@Yvolve]

@@CorbCorbin Chiropractors are pseudoscience until they fix an injury that wouldn't go away. I've been there and done that, as a hugely sceptical person. They genuinely can do a lot of good, as it is in the same realm as physiotherapy. It manipulates bones and joints, instead of muscles.

[@p75369]

That last one takes me to xkcd number 1217: "When you see a claim that a common drug or vitamin kills cancer cells in a Petri dish, keep in mind: so does a handgun."

[@musthaf9]

the problem is that "influencers" wouldn't point that out, they would outright claim that it kills cancer, completely omitting the very important fact that it is a cell experiment. Most influencers only tell their, usually exaggerated, conclusion instead of the actual finding. for example, in the presence of a phone, one subject group had lower score in a certain cognitive test in an experiment, and what the influencer is saying is within the line of "Smartphone makes you dumb"

[@Breathe-In-and-Out]

I'll never forget when I asked a very scientific-minded friend how I could best sanitize my cloth diapers. He said, "There are two sanitizers you can use on fiber: bleach and fire. Pick one." I also got a very good washing routine for my specific washing machine and that helped greatly to keep my diapers clean.

[@mongolitosking9739]

actually, Vit A is helpful against Promyolecytes leukemia and some chemotherapy are easier to withstand while fasting but it is case by case with patients

[@reviewchan9806]

Or as Marjorie Taylor green calls it a peach tree dish

[@angie.alexander]

​@@reviewchan9806🤣🤣🤣

[@leonlowenstadter9223]

Homepathic is like throwing your car keys in a river and then trying to start your car with a bucket of its water.

[@beckstewart8271]

Love this explanation 😂

[@thomasbecker9676]

That's an overly broad statement.

[@leonlowenstadter9223]

@@thomasbecker9676 Well, two points: Name one progess homepathic made in the past ten years due to research based on scientific methods. Second: The process to get to homepathic products does not have a deenergizing and decontamination step for the water. Almost all water has been around since it has been "invented" in the early days of earth (about 4 billion years ago). You don't know which plant it has touched on his way around the globe when travelling up to the sky, becoming rain, flowing down rivers into lakes or oceans, traveling up to the sky again - year after year, decade after decade, century after centurly, millenium after millenium, millions of times. Some of those plants don't exist anymore since hundreds of thousands of years. How do you know what their power was and how to get rid of it?

[@moezuniga8714]

@@thomasbecker9676it’s true though

[@thomasbecker9676]

@@moezuniga8714 "It" is extremely vague.

[@silvershocknicktail6638]

4:30 And the first pseudoscience believer is a "vote for Trump" account. Colour me shocked. Shocked, I say.

[@marcusfarcus]

Indeed, shocked since they usually appear so edumacated.

[@Turtlesbekool]

Dr. Love showed up and showed OUT!!! She brought graphs, studies, articles…this was the most fascinating episode yet…please have her back on soon

[@pnutfren]

Did she cite any valid scientific evidence? I missed it. "Studies show" okay, whic ones? Were those funded by NGO's or industries with Billions at their disposal?

[@johncaccioppo1142]

@@pnutfren No, she doesn't waste her time with evidence. Don't want to teach a gullible audience dangerous tricks.

[@bigtone7824]

It's easy to look good without any push back

[@Jizzlewobbwtfcus]

One piece of paper does not equate to an article lol

[@Turtlesbekool]

Man yall are some sad individuals posting under here 🥴

[@snowjae9380]

My science teacher told us that America is facing science illiteracy and it will worsen in the future. Fast forward 10 years later and I finally see what she meant…

[@shruggzdastr8-facedclown]

This trend is at least an indirect, if not direct, symptom of certain localities forcing public schools to teach Creationism and Intelligent Design as having equal weight as Evolution and other basic scientific theories

[@esaedvik]

It's something certain groups seem to strive for (just basically make people, preferably minorities and the poor, dumb by limiting their access to education), often the same as not allowing women control of their own bodies. It's nuts majorities are allowing this to happen.

[@andreww4751]

i mean the schools in america are literal indoctrination camps, so no surprise there

[@sapphiresupernova]

Your name is "Andrew" so I'm going to assume you have no idea how intense a pregnancy actually is on a woman. Friendly reminder that zygotes, blastocysts, and embryos can be biologically considered a parasite. 🙃

[@feltfrog]

@@andreww4751 Nope, it’s the woman’s body and no woman should be forced to give birth against her will :)) weird that you want to force women to be pregnant

[@BaracchiL]

I still can't understand how someone can say "hey this thing made me ill, surely if i keep consuming it it will cure me" and believe it's a great idea.

[@ZipplyZane]

Allergies. Allergy shots contains small amount by of the substance to train your immune system that it is not a threat. So there is one specific situation where the idea makes sense. My theory is that they found it worked with some allergies, and applied it to everything else

[@travisfinucane]

@reiianyt Yep like she said in the video, there's usually a morsel of truth somewhere in there, but then they take it to ridiculous ends.

[@AIHumanEquality]

The same way Americans keep believing "America is the greatest nation on earth".

[@23aceballer]

In some ways it’s true like if you get bit by a snake, the snakes venom is used to develop anti venom.

[@bendooley6809]

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[@xabsentimentalx]

@8:08 shout-out to the editing team at Wired for cutting off the brands she was ready to call out for killing babies, real brave of you

[@dalebeckham]

This is, by far, the most medically and socially beneficial episode of Wired Tech Support ever posted! Thank you Dr. Andrea!

[@dr.andrealove]

Thank you SO much for that feedback!

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

​@@dr.andrealoveyou did a fantastic job! All th. Explanations were short and concise , but still very informative and well explained. Someone like you should be more present in media do educate people.

[@ikocheratcr]

It would be great if there are way more episodes like this on Wired.

[@nicholasbrowning7410]

@@dr.andrealove Clean, concise, well-researched, and completely factual. As a physician I appreciate your effort here and I hope that some will change their minds. You've got the right information - any tips on how to actually convince people with it? I imagine you find that as frustrating as I do.

[@katherinekelly5380]

@@ikocheratcrDr Andrea Love has her own channel ! I was delighted to find this out as I found this segment very informative

[@adityakhanna113]

To anyone thinking "her area of expertise isn't physics, so why is she talking about the electromagnetic spectrum", it's basic science. Every scientist should know

[@SlyAceZeta]

Unfortunately, doctors like her have had to _become_ familiar with how cell technology works just to shut up the people who claim that they do something to your body.

[@n16161]

That same statement applies to every lib who argued that I MUST take a COVID shot to protect myself. How could I know that acquired immunity is real? I’m just a pleb mechanical engineer, not an infectious disease EXPERT. Our “experts” say things that fly in the face of common sense and we’re not allowed to disagree unless we have the credential. I like this lady, though, she seems like she really knows what she’s talking about. I’m just making the point that “basic science” applies quite broadly to many issues that THE EXPERTS™️ tell us we’re too stupid to understand, and that unfortunate fact of recent years has absolutely destroyed the credibility of the medical establishment globally. Which, also quite unfortunately, is why this video has to be made.

[@deltalima6703]

Engineers dont need covid shots. Too many engineers anyways. ;-)

[@IceMetalPunk]

@@n16161 Um... no one doubts the existence of acquired immunity. The point of a vaccine is that in order to acquire immunity without one, you first need to *catch the harmful disease.* And the vaccine helps you acquire that immunity *without catching the disease first.* It's not "if I don't take the vaccine, I won't ever gain immunity." It's "if I don't take the vaccine, the only way I could possibly gain immunity is by encountering the actual pathogen, possibly having symptoms, and risking passing it onto other people who are more susceptible to the disease."

[@josepedrogaleanogomez4870]

More like she probably knows what ionizing radiation actually does to your body, so she had to learn a bit of the nature of the electromagnetic spectrum to know when does radiation begin to be dangerous. Sure, both the engineer and the biomedical scientist know that ionizing radiation can cause cancer. But the engineer only knows it causes cancer, while the biomedical scientist would know the details of why it does. Goes similarly for the physicist, only that the physicist would struggle to design something that produces ionizing radiation, because at that point, that's pretty much engineering and is what the engineer does.

[@BlueJayYT]

Just a note: non-ionizing radiation doesn’t mean it can’t penetrate your body, it means it doesn’t have the energy to ionize atoms. Radio waves can and do penetrate the human body, but they’re not dangerous

[@romandruckermusic]

Ayyy bluejay, didn't expect to see you here! And yes, the longer the wavelength the more stuff it can penetrate iirc. But shorter wavelengths have the power to mess up your cells, damage the dna and all that fun stuff

[@alopradocai]

And that's what happens when you step out of your field to talk about something. Found it kinda ironic that she mentioned this as a red flag, but started taking about physics a few minutes later. Video was great, don't agree with everything, but most of it for sure. As in science, especially health and biology, debates will always be there, like if you should drink coffee or not. Although there are certain things that we have tested a lot and studied to confirm that it is harmful to you like not taking certain vaccines.

[@shannonbarber6161]

It doesn't mean it can't ionize either, it's just unlikely.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

I'm glad somebody said it. Even non-ionizing radiation can cause issues, it's why it's best not to stand in front of radar arrays that are in use.

[@brqxton8974]

@@SmallSpoonBrigade to be fair, the main reason you shouldnt stand by them is they also release frequencies that can rupture ear drums, capillaries, and even possibly alveoli.

[@EmperorMittensify]

I love the perspective that Andrea breaks down with her excellent science communication here! I have a personal experience with a chiropractor that gave me nearly immediate relief improvement in my posture with a rotator cuff and spinal injury relieving weeks of pain permanently. I understand that this may not be a general public experience, but, I feel there is a place for chiropractors that physical therapists can't field alone - and Andrea gives a small caveat for this. It would be great to see continued studies on the benefits / risks here.

[@txxxx0]

When the whole autism-vaccine thing was still spoken about a lot online, I remember someone saying "even if this was true, these parents would rather their kids get the measles than get autism". How sad

[@michaeldurrant8446]

If I had a time machine, I'd stop the conception of Andrew Wakefield. That man has done more damage to public health than AIDS and cancer combined.

[@randominternetartist2615]

yeah, like, measels will cause so much more damage than autism will autism make life difficult? yes, but not because of the autism itself. Life will be difficult because of the barriers that society puts in front of those people, so they have to fight for things that ballistic people take for granted But that is definitely not as bad as measels

[@TheFrygar]

@@randominternetartist2615 and even then it depends on the type of autism - if you have a good pharma and therapeutic regimen, some autistic people basically just live with superpowers and otherwise have fairly normal social interactions and professional lives.

[@----.__]

@@TheFrygar _"some autistic people basically just live with superpowers"_ And this line of thinking is why so many people online claim they have autism these days. The need to feel special is astounding.

[@chlorophyllheart]

​@@----.__ The "need to feel special" as you described it, is merely a rebuttal to all those that say autism makes you less or worse of a human. If no one said those negative things about autism, then no one would be saying autism is superpowers.

[@Konic_and_Snuckles]

6:19 - "If someone is a neuroscientist that specializes in optic nerve signaling, and they're pretending to be an expert in infectious disease immunology, that's probably a red flag." That's... _extremely_ specific. I wonder who she is talking about. 👀

[@joshualeggett3765]

I was about to comment the same thing 😂

[@PlanetComputer]

on god i wonder too because i honestly have no idea

[@daubertd]

Pretty sure she is talking about Andrew Huberman

[@jillianwebb8725]

I came to find this comment!

[@richradka]

@@daubertd this

[@kieranmahoney2838]

Finally someone talking about chiropractic adjustment not being supported by research. I see them on my feed everywhere and they act like they can fix anything

[@Chris-de2qc]

Dr Berg is a chiropractor. And a scientologist.

[@Qlicky]

@@Chris-de2qc So, neither a real doctor nor a real scientist?

[@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494]

​@@Chris-de2qcWho's Dr Berg?

[@Bumblebone]

He mostly shares nutritional advice​@@Chris-de2qc

[@DefinitelyNotAutumn...]

Ahh scientology, the cult of hell​@Chris-de2qc

[@terence666]

put this video everywhere, instagram, tiktok, radio, tv, timesquare. More then just a few people need to watch

[@jopo7996]

I had 2 bad colds. One I did nothing and it lasted a whole week. The other, I detoxed, used crystals, avoided fluoride and it was gone in only 7 days. Checkmate, Dr. Love.

[@Venky-313]

😂

[@A0A4ful]

Wait for the 3rd cold, and observe it for 168 hours straight..

[@norniea]

Exactly...😂😂

[@dr.andrealove]

😂

[@Todd_Manus]

This made my day!!! Great humor!!!

[@thedevicebook]

Regarding the cell phone question, they also asked why cancer rates went up. Detection methods caught more cancers as the medical technology increased. It shouldn't be surprising that cell phone technology also increased during that time. It's a correlation, NOT a causation.

[@oylene]

Also isn’t it almost every 3 months that a wide-used ingredient in popular foods is discovered/declared to be a carcinogen? (See red40 and how hard it is to find red items in a store that DON’T have it listed)

[@nibblitman]

@@oyleneThe other thing is that if other stuff doesn’t kill us first we get cancer.

[@swbug9]

If I had a dollar for every time someone didn’t understand correlation doesn’t equal causation, id be rich enough to broadcast this video to everyone.

[@dougaltolan3017]

2 thorough and fully respected tests show that cell phone mast radiation does cause an increase in brain tumours in male rats. However, to experience that level of radiation, the rats would need to live right in front of the antenna.

[@justsomenobody889]

there is definitely more cancer now than there was pre-industrial revolution. The question isn't 'is there more cancer', it's 'which one of the literally thousands of known carcinogenic chemicals are we exposed to driving this increase'? You would only have to talk to a toxicologist for 2 minutes to know this

[@matchakii]

she's so straightforward and clear in her explanations!! could watch her talk about this for an hour

[@colinf2316]

God this was comforting to watch. I could listen to her debunks stuff all day.

[@droomkiller]

This should be broadcasted globally just before the 8 o'clock evening news

[@sweis12]

Then nobody would ever see it. No one watches the news on TV anymore .

[@Lenxecan]

@@sweis12 the older generations absolutely still do.

[@S1D94]

Not just that, it should completely REPLACE the 8 o'clock evening news

[@tomasbeltran04050]

news in my country run at 7pm lol

[@sweis12]

@Lenxecan the people so old they can't even remember what channel it's on and have subtitles because they can't hear but they are also so blind they can't even read the subtitles either ?

[@erin470]

lol I loved when she called out health influencers speaking way out of their scope of expertise and then blantantly described Andrew Huberman w/o saying his name.

[@everardosancot2377]

I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS EXACT COMMENT

[@jessi411]

I could tell she was targeting someone, but I wasn’t sure who! Thanks for solving that mystery :)

[@lastsolfa]

Ironically she's been having a lot of expert opinions in areas where she's not an expert in

[@esther2837]

@@lastsolfa Maybe she's just mad he's invited other experts and not her on his podcast

[@vaderladyl]

oh so the recognized doctors on KZbin are wrong, according to you? They are influencers as well

[@Kitty_kisses97]

You all at wired should have Dr. Andrea Love on again for a future episode! Really enjoyed the explanation and she has good energy.

[@lotuspoints]

And well prepared! Kudos

[@IcoKirov]

The juice detox is one of my favorites. "Im detoxing" and im like "sorry to hear that, what is wrong with your liver?"

[@IceQueen007]

Please have Dr. Andrea back for a part 2. This session was so informative, I want to see her crush some more psuedoscience claims.

[@robertsinnerman7804]

BIG TIME

[@robertsinnerman7804]

in fact, it should be a weekly series to continually debunk all the new nonsense that keep polluting the internet.

[@EsotericWizard]

Spitting straight facts with incredible cheekbones

[@BunsenHoneydew001]

😬 She looks like she had her buccal fat removed. It's not a good look.

[@ruturajshiralkar5566]

Chad Woman

[@ZeHoSmusician]

And a jawline you could break your fist on... 😅

[@jabloko992]

@@ruturajshiralkar5566 She's a Stacy alright. She's probably in her 40s, but still looking good.

[@ashleeminnow8453]

Commenting on her looks is just weird dude.... She's here talking about her biomedical expertise and spreading information, she's not here to be catcalled... Gross af behavior.

[@samsoncooper1]

Andrew Wakefield should have been put in prison for what he did (helped by the media). It could and should have been a non-story and should have been forcefully retracted years before it was.

[@DangerSquiggles]

To be fair, most people had no reason to suspect that the results of his study were falsified - Most of it came to light because a journalis, brian deer, spent years researching and digging up all the facts.

[@JJ-qo7th]

@@DangerSquiggles He should still be in prison.

[@samsoncooper1]

@@DangerSquiggles I remember it happening and we did know, literally everyone in the scientific community other than Wakefield spoke against the validity of the study at the time, looking at the reams of other evidence that contradicted what he said. Or the validity of a study with only 12 participants and many other things.

[@DangerSquiggles]

@@samsoncooper1 Yes, I remember it too, but my concern wasn't "this guy faked all the data for money" but "this is just a small uncontrolled case series".

[@20thcenturygamer22]

​@DangerSquiggles my concern is that thousands have died because he faked a study

[@gabriellastauffer]

WIRED, you have no idea (or, I guess, perhaps you have an idea...) of how valuable you are to our online misconception culture! Thank you for bringing in educated people to help bring reality to so many misinformed.

[@dinosaurtootsies]

The fact that someone claimed that GMOs alter a person’s DNA upon consumption is WILD and shows that they’ve never paid attention to any biology course. Scientific literacy is important, but is unfortunately politicized, benefitting no one.

[@KasumiRINA]

About genetically modified stuff: everything is. Like, either through natural selection or selective breeding. Look up how bananas had giant seeds, eggplants actually looked like eggs, and wild apples are not sweet at all, and also tiny. Very few things have genes that didn't change in thousands, millions of years. And those few things are stuff like cockroaches, not potatoes or maize. Everything is a GMO.

[@margodphd]

That's high school level biology though. Everyone under 50 should know the basics of how DNA works, the younger - the more details were introduced into curriculum. In my country basics of DNA replication, transcription and translation, metabolism and cell cycle are taught to middle school kids - 12+. In high school, it's taught very thoroughly - the subject taking at least an entire semester and it's repeated thorough the remaining years. It's similar in Europe. Isn't that the case for US?

[@christinehottinger5791]

True! At the same time, there is growing evidence that GMO wheat, specifically "RoundUp Ready" wheat, is harder on our digestive systems than heritage wheats. Lots of people who get sick on gluten find they can consume heritage wheat just fine. Note: this is true for people who have identified a personal gluten sensitivity, I don't think anyone with full Celiac's has been able to eat gluten again, and would not recommend trying it if you have Celiac's!!! That damage hides too easily and is very serious.

[@LostAndEaten]

I hope these people are prepared to survive on just water then 😂

[@kdog2646]

Basic biology classes won't teach you this.

[@VisonsofFalseTruths]

We should not need videos like this to tell people “if someone is trying to sell you something they’re probably bullshitting you.” They really should not.

[@Breathe-In-and-Out]

I think it's easy to fall prey to scams when you're desperate.

[@shruggzdastr8-facedclown]

​@@Breathe-In-and-Out: Especially when healthcare and insurance cost too much, and the latter covers far too little of it, which is a big part of why we experienced the oxy crisis that we went thru a few/several years ago (and still are, to a lesser extent, in some areas)

[@robertscholten5539]

We shouldn't, but given that packets of nuts have a warning label saying the contents may contain nuts, I think all hope is gone.

[@sheboyganshovel5920]

Westley said it best. "Life is pain, your highness. Anybody who says differently is trying to sell you something."

[@fjb7380]

You mean like every major news network, most major newspapers and most online news sources that are entirely funded by big pharmaceutical companies?

[@lekky3263]

I will say that she left out the context that the other thing that is rising alongside the proliferation of pseudoscience is the cost of and lack of access to evidence based healthcare in the US. If we acquire universal access to healthcare I believe the number of people being misled about all this crap will drastically drop.

[@NasukaStar]

Yes! I was disappointed that she didn't mention this.

[@oliviastar3812]

What about the big players in the game, ie: the food and drug industry conglomerates? The studies and research etc intrinsically linked to those bedfellows too? Is she not working with whatever 'truths' have been issued or publicised? Not everything is always as it seems.

[@ace448]

The replication crisis is also part of the issue. Much of the research, even in the medical field, has been suspect and can’t be replicated or weren’t conducted with proper rigor. The Cass review is a recent example. This creates space for pseudoscience to infiltrate and seem valid. The sciences have done a lot of damage to themselves in a drive to publish new research and chase funding dollars.

[@marieguellec]

Unfortunately, in countries with free medical access, we see huge rises of pseudoscience beliefs too :( So that's not the only factor that's playing here. We even see people denying free evidence-based treatments to go in debt and pay thousands for pseudoscience 😫We still wish you easier access to healthcare, though!! I don't know the numbers to see if the pseudoscience proliferation is "as big" in Europe as it is in the US.

[@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494]

​@@marieguellecThe antivax thing got pretty bad in Australia, especially in hippie areas that got more gentrified...the hippie-to-alt-right pipeline has also been bad here too 😑

[@AnneJohn-ub7mq]

It’s is important to remember that everything in too big doses can be harmful. For example we need water to live but too much water can cause water poisoning

[@SiqueScarface]

20:10 I like how the Swarovksi company advertises their glass stones at the entrance to their "Crystal Worlds" art collection and show room at their headquarters in Wattens, Austria: "It has been shown that Swarovski glass stones show the same healing effects than the natural gemstones.", which is an elegant way to state, that they have no effect whatsoever, which is on par with natural crystals.

[@GeraldH-ln4dv]

This love of crystals goes back decades now. Crystal healing started appearing back with all of the New Age stuff in the 1970's. And crystals growing in caves all around the world have been vandalized by these idiots.

[@IllustriousCrocoduck]

Like magical healing waters.

[@thehomeschoolinglibrarian]

Crystals have a placebo effect so along with medical treatment and a strong belief in their healing they can make people feel better and unlike other stuff they are harmless and nice to look at. The big thing is to use them with real medical treatment so you can get the effect of both modern medicine and the power of the human mind to help in healing.

[@GeraldH-ln4dv]

@@IllustriousCrocoduck Watching them to the end boosts the channel on the algorithm and increases the payout to the channel owner. You might want to reconsider.

[@adrianalcott3847]

This needs to be broadcasted to every person in every country , because pseudoscience is an epidemic in its own way , She can save millions of lives by just telling the truth about Pseudoscience.

[@pluto8404]

do you have evidence she can save millions of lives? Your claim sounds like pseudoscience.

[@TheSapphireSprit]

Unfortunately many people would probably think that she’s telling the truth or that she has some kind of agenda. Stupid can’t be fixed.

[@singingkid1412]

There is plenty of evidence that people are harmed by pseudoscience. So if that helps people not having to go to that, then it is true. Are you a pseudo science believer ?

[@pluto8404]

@singingkid1412 I would argue more have been hurt by "science" than not have. How many pharmaceuticals have caused adverse side effects, drug addiction, asbestos, ddt, even cigarettes once apon a time were approved by scientists as there was no evidence to suggest they were bad.

[@TheSapphireSprit]

@@singingkid1412 I must be just like John Hopkins, the National Institute of Health and several medical institutions. All pseudoscientific institutions.

[@butterflysoup7699]

I love how she talked about how these health influencers on social media manipulate the viewer through evoking negative emotions like fear and anger, targeting and creating insecurities. Politics works the same way

[@nicholasbrowning7410]

You are absolutely correct. Always be wary of those trying to use fear to manipulate you. That doesn't mean you should shrug off every danger - just evaluate it rationally. Ask "who benefits?"

[@RandomInternetStranger]

Fear is an effective motivator. It's cruel and incredibly unhealthy all around, but it's simple and _very_ universal.

[@OrangeCat1992]

100%!

[@CaptinLongdong1]

Yup. Both parties do it, and it's disgusting.

[@seanothepop4638]

advertising has done this since...advertising existed. Create fear in the viewer and explain why your good or service alleviates it. We've done that with soap, food, pet food, toothpaste etc. The products still do what they normally do but the fear edge is always in the game.

[@nvydrew]

I love this lady. Please bring her back for a second episode

[@lenahoang4348]

I wish she talked about water pH and how there is no need to “alkalize” your body

[@Andrupenko]

And adding lemon to the alkaline water, which is hilarious

[@robertsinnerman7804]

She did a whole newsletter about it very recently. I am sure you could find it very easily either through her socials or her website. I'd also highly recommend signing up for her newsletter.

[@brianfox771]

Alkali water is so silly. As soon as it hits your stomach acid, it is almost instantly acidic. Eating a couple chewable heartburn tablets is going to do more to reduce the acidity in your stomach than alkali water. 🤣

[@squidge125]

if your body PH goes 0.1 out of a very tight range either way, you are dead. It's amazing how much energy the body is putting into that at all times. Actually alkalising your body would be rapidly fatal

[@LaurenJohnston-wc7vn]

The explanation of wavelengths reminded me of being a kid and my grandma telling me that watching the food heat up in the microwave was dangerous. She also said that re-boiling water made it poisonous LOL

[@claremiller9979]

My kids watching food heat up in the microwave is just an annoying habit 😂 like, get out of the way I need to get that out in a minute!

[@TorquemadaTwist]

She got to grandmother age not looking in microwaves therefore you must do the same to reach her age. The maths check out, trust me. Also the second time you boil water it's angry, having absorbed the first boil as an attack and releases natural toxins as a defense. My facts are so true they need no corroboration.

[@shannonbarber6161]

It is mildly dangerous. The magnetron is like 4" cubed. The entire rest of the microwave is a shield. Haven't you seen any of the videos on how when people pop open a microwave early it screws with the astronomy radio telescopes. One got mistaken for little green men. You know what's not dangerous? Leaving your engine running while pumping gas. How do you get into the gas station? How do you get out? What is dangerous is if you roll into a gas station with your engine on fire; i.e. dripping oil onto a flash-point surface.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

Reboiling it has never been a risk. I think the microwave thing though was the result of not really knowing how much of the microwaves were leaving the microwaves and it was recommended when my parents got their first microwave that you never stand closer than 5 feet while it was in operation. The technology, and understanding of the technology, has changed a lot since the introduction of the microwave into kitchens, so I'd give her a pass. The biggest change is that you can usually put metal into the microwave these days, so long as the metal is intended for use in a microwave. That's why those stands can be put in there and why you can put TV dinners that have metal trays in as well.

[@knutthompson7879]

Question: "" Answer: "That is factually incorrect." Questioner's response: "Ah well you disagreeing with it just proves !"

[@gabbonoo]

More like "she didnt address the question in my head directly and i cant be bothered checking". - *ancient aliens gesture* -

[@IceMetalPunk]

"If it wasn't true, you wouldn't be trying to hard to cover it up!"

[@adream-le4tk]

88ii​@@gabbonoo

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Pretty much like a Flat Earther and a YEC. {:o:O:}

[@TasteOfButterflies]

That one is a question for wired's cult deprogramming expert.

[@SherrellStPierre]

Oh, I love her. Her tone, her demeanor, & her delivery is everything!

[@chaunceysecrist2930]

"If someone is a neuroscientist that specializes in optic nerve signaling..." I think she just called out Andrew Huberman 😂😂

[@Strivingtoknow]

Unquestionably lol

[@mattrs1]

I was about to say that as well😂

[@LamanKnight]

I'm not familiar with him, but when she made such a specific reference, I figured it was calling somebody out.

[@Strategies2010]

I’ve been wondering about him. Explodes in popularity out of nowhere, now everything is related to cold plunges or jumping out of bed 10 minutes early and BAM you’re cancer free

[@Setixir]

​@@Strategies2010 It's much worse. He makes some truly wild claims these days that make no sense. A lot of things he says about Testastarone are just completely wrong

[@osainista]

As a public health professional, parent and concerned citizen, it MADE MY DAY to see Dr. Love take a principled and scientifically-based stand against some of the most pernicious, injurious and dangerous pseudo-science myths of our time. Keep it up, Dr. Love and Wired!!

[@dr.andrealove]

Thank YOU!

[@AIHumanEquality]

I agree mostly, chiropractic done by a professional isn't really dangerous though.

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

A big issue is also actual health professionals ssionals and doctors reading the abstract of a study and spread misinformation. It's not just influencers. One example is the rosemary oil for hair growth study. Tons of doctors happily spread that claim. But the study they cite is utter trash and does not even show what is claimed.

[@Censortubes]

Botpost.

[@RobertFergusonDCFIAMA]

@@AIHumanEquality I have to say I thought her view about chiropractic was very outdated. Most providers are trying to do their best for what’s best for their patience, When I went to chiropractic school that we actually rotated through the emergency room. We were encouraged to develop relationships with other healthcare providers. I have regularly attended and continuing education classes with MD’s and physical therapist. Most of what I do has quite a bit of overlay with physical therapist. most of the chiropractors I know include not just manipulative therapy but exercises and lifestyle education.

[@lance4862]

I knew all of this and I'm so sick of arguing with people about all of these thugs. It's nice to be able to point them to a video explaining it. We need more videos like this.

[@kotosqoposrly]

I recommend you take a degree on biological based courses if you haven't yet. You do get to learn so much that you know how to direct false claims so much more effectively.

[@leoc1812]

"As someone who has been studying for decades" How old is she?!!!! I thought she was my age! (35). Also... I'm in love with her and her brain. That is all.

[@michaelpetras1613]

She’s a moron

[@Shako_Lamb]

I've had Lyme disease twice, and took full courses of antibiotics both times. No ongoing symptoms. I've been told by several people, "Oh you know that never really goes away and can come back right??" And I'm like "no lol"

[@pseudotasuki]

My hometown would be completely immobilized if Lyme Disease wasn't curable. Basically… anyone with a dog or outdoor cat.

[@Philoishness]

Good on you for catching it early! I think that might be the main issue that leads to chronic symptoms

[@crlaf1978]

I've had it 3 times. And it is permanently in my system, ongoing symptoms, after full courses of antibiotics, so.... 🤷🏻‍♀️ lucky you?

[@pseudotasuki]

@@crlaf1978 If it's permanently in your system, how have you had it more than once?

[@crlaf1978]

@@pseudotasuki while on antibiotics for the first found bout - I don't present with rashes, it was found during blood testing for a surgery, so we don't know how long I had it - I was shown to have it again. My Dr showed me my blood test results. It's not a one-and-done issue, idk why anyone would think it is. Bc the internet said so?

[@masterchiefmalik]

I could listen to her rip apart pseudoscience and false claims all day.

[@pickleballer1729]

Sounds like you would really enjoy the podcasts "Skeptics Guide to the Universe" and "Oh No, Ross and Carrie". Both are really good at debunking (although they both hate that term) all kinds of alternative medicine, Alien, ghost, ESP, metaphysical and other paranormal and pseudoscience claims, and they do it with humor and positivity.

[@luckyneko1]

During Covid I followed a woman's page, "your neighborhood epidemiologist." I learned so much. Also, science changes. It doesn't mean they lied to you when information changes, it means they learned new information.

[@Sunshine4]

This🎉

[@shannonbarber6161]

Epidemiologist specialize in policy. It's a hybrid medical and political job so I would predict her focus was on the political-science not the medical-science. The difference is medical-science is about the truth of reality whereas political-science is about crafting-messaging to achieve the desired public outcome. Would be a fascinating read if she was brutally honest.

[@thebrenizers]

@@shannonbarber6161you should read it. She is excellent and follows the data wherever it goes.

[@libenhagos9335]

​@shannonbarber6161 that is not what epidemiologists do. It's the intersection of statistics and medical sciences. They're basically data analysts who specialize in public health.

[@threadripper979]

@@Sunshine4 Unless you mean Fauci. He intentionally lied over and over. His agency funded the gain of function (weaponization) "research" at the Wuhan lab that ultimately leaked Covid-19. He still lies today, despite his own writings, especially emails, detailing what really happened.

[@LexiPexi15]

I wish people would be more willing to admit to falling for pseudoscience, maybe they would be more willing to watch videos like this and learn to avoid it if they weren't so insecure about being wrong. I admit I have fallen for a lot of pseudoscience in the past during a health scare, and that lead me to developing an interest in actually learning about research methods and the scientific method, which has helped me a lot with health anxiety. It's ok to make mistakes and be wrong guys! It's NOT okay to remain willfully ignorant and make it harder for other people to learn!

[@madedgar]

Man she's brilliant, and we need more of these videos honestly

[@tab8294]

Atleast watch the full vedio , it's just 3mins ago

[@mavfan1]

Do we also need more of them dishonestly?

[@Britishmajestic]

@@mavfan1 In what way is she being dishonest at all? She’s trying to help people like you have that bought into insane conspiracies, spread by real dishonest people profiting off them.

[@countessk]

@@Britishmajestic Mavfan1 is actually being sarcastic. I recognized it because it is my type of humor.

[@Britishmajestic]

@@countessk Ah, yeah you're right thankfully.

[@md0u9147]

This is the freshest of breaths on the internet I think I have ever witnessed! So pleased to see so many myths and false claims debunked in one video. Bravo! (UK based Medical Doctor)

[@williamyoung9401]

Feeding babies Deadly Nightshade...in 2010...we're doomed as a species. Not even doctors can fix stupidity...

[@Pattii248]

As a German may I want to add to the Gluten topic at 15:55 that it is important how you make your bread. For example the traditional bread has to rest over 24 hours, which will make it easier to digest.

[@snazzypazzy]

And "Europe" is not all the same thing. We eat a lot of different things. A French baguette is not the same as a German whole grain rye bread. (For example.)

[@thomasbecker9676]

Correct, the gluten in sourdough bread is generally more digestible than that in fast-rise bread.

[@Cheezeball]

@@snazzypazzy Yeah but they're both bread. In North America, most "bread" is ultra-processed in factories. Now that I bake my own bread in Canada, my body much happier. They type of bread doesn't matter.

[@PSA78]

​@@CheezeballI'm not sure if there's a whole lot of ultra processing when making any bread, they are all processed no matter the size of the building (factory is a common word used today to signal fear but it might as well be the opposite). But it's nice to bake your own bread. 👍

[@JD-ow6sc]

For someone who has studied Lyme disease for decades I’m shocked to the degree that you downplayed it. The U.S. is currently experiencing a Lyme disease epidemic. There are ~500,000 new cases of Lyme disease in the US every year and it is growing rapidly. Furthermore, due to the symptoms of Lyme disease mimicking other more common illnesses it is often misdiagnosed or goes undiagnosed for years. the majority of patients (72%) reported being misdiagnosed with another condition prior to their Lyme diagnosis. This is important because you stated it’s 100% curable and all you gotta do is pop a couple pills and you’re good to go. And that’s just not factually correct. People treated with appropriate antibiotics in the early stages of Lyme disease usually recover rapidly and completely however, the U.S. CDC estimates that treatment fails for up to 10% of patients, who develop what is officially known as post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome. More recent studies have actually put that number a little higher. The earlier you start treatment the better the odds of a recovery without long lasting effects. I think you deserve an F on this response because as a doctor you should know better than to down play something as if it were of little consequence when for a significant amount of people it has become a life altering and debilitating disease.

[@JZBich]

I am in NY and lyme is definitely an issue - I also know of folk elsewhere who are dealing with it.

[@lightofruin1938]

People have cancer, get over your puny little disease

[@thomasma8924]

I agree that she downplayed the consequences of Lyme disease.

[@OogaBoogaBooga6969]

500,000? That's like 0.0014885682% of the population buddy. You call that an epidemic? Do you know what else has 500,000 cases a year? Gonorrhea. Actually, it has 648,000. Is that an epidemic too? And do you know what they both have in common? They're easily preventable by not being dumb. When the cases are around 500,000 and not scaling uphill quickly into the millions, then it's not legally considered an epidemic, bro. It's legally classified as a Health Concern. You get an F for failing to understand what an epidemic is, buddy lol

[@angrycultist4006]

Did you even read your own numbers? 500K isn't even half a percent of the US population. And then only 10% of that has treatment complications? Seems pretty rare to me, especially since a lot of those are probably people that are either suffering other complications or had it caught a little too late since it's easy to misdiagnose. She wasn't "downplaying" anything. She gave a reasonable and brief answer on a complicated topic in a video covering a wide range of different questions. Maybe you should make your own video so we can see kind of grade you merit.

[@benrast1755]

To paraphrase Paracelsus, “the dose makes the poison.” Almost anything can be harmful in high enough doses, and many things we consider harmful are really only harmful over a certain threshold.

[@IceMetalPunk]

Yep. Water can be more toxic than arsenic... given enough water and a small enough dose of arsenic.

[@ernavill3261]

​@@IceMetalPunk Arsenic is also an organic material. So according to some people it should be beneficial to your body.

[@matthewrayner571]

@@ernavill3261 I'm sorry?

[@IceMetalPunk]

@@ernavill3261 Well... it's a natural material. I don't think it actually fits any definition of "organic". Certainly not the chemistry definition.

[@courtneyr6645]

@@IceMetalPunkyes, the chemistry definition. There are forms of organic and inorganic arsenic.

There is one thing to add. The reason why bread is better digestible, if bought at a real bakery is the time for the fermentation that changes the structure of the bread (at least overnight). Factory bakeries speed that process.

[@suen5006]

Yes, the benefit of the sourdough effect, which does help. Diabetics are also less likely to spike with true sourdough bread.

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

@@suen5006 If you are talking about the glycemic index of bread, then yes, sourdough bread has a lower glycemic index - BEACAUSE IT HAS LESS SUGAR IN IT!

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus I wish they'd come up with something better than the glycemic index. It is somewhat helpful, but unless you're eating your meals as individual ingredients and allowing time to digest each ingredient between, it's not super helpful.

[@spOOkytimes]

I was wondering if people were consuming higher quality products, including bread, since people tend to eat at restaurants and splurge while on vacation. America's store-bought white bread is considered a dessert bread to Europeans.

[@Qlicky]

It's not just about fermentation. A good quality bread has only water, salt, flour and yeast in it. Store bought bread has like 15 more ingredients to make it fluffier, extend shelf life etc etc. Of course the first one would be easier to digest.

[@jondoe2960]

This video NEEDS to appear on everyone's algorithm. This is too important.

[@jenm1]

Unfortunately this is showing up in our algo because we already believe it and it won’t for those who don’t

[@ClementTodd]

@@jenm1 You never know, this video is #11 on trending right now which means it's reaching a lot of eyes and ears! You're right that it will be mostly served to people who want to watch it of course, but I learned a couple things myself and gained some vocabulary to help me talk to people who wouldn't click the video themselves, so that's something.

[@melanierosalez6989]

Mandatory, open minded viewing. Could that ever happen?

[@vaderladyl]

nope

[@wcjourney]

for myself, who works in a hospital, I found that once I began taking vitamin c everyday I no longer got sick, but would still pass on my sickness to my family. I would find that my heart rate would be elevated on my bike rides, so I knew something was out of the ordinary, then a couple days later, the family would get sick. COVID and the flu were verified in all of us multiple times, and I was the originator. So, I feel that vitamin C is helpful and I take it everyday religiously now.

[@michaelgoldsmith3534]

I love that before viewing this video, KZbin required that I watch an ad promoting some "Organ Boosting" supplement.

[@Rystefn]

This is literally why ad blockers were invented, friend.

[@justayoutuber1906]

Ads? I've never seen ONE but I use....software and NOT the YT app...

[@AIHumanEquality]

KZbin: We gotta heavily regulate what people say in videos and comments to make sure we don't offend advertisers or spread misinformation. Also KZbin:

[@AIHumanEquality]

​@@RystefnHate to break this to you but most ad blockers are also malware that steal your data.

[@kirmityou]

@@AIHumanEquality Well, then don't use the harmful ones? All you need is uBlock Origin anyway...

[@DrScott-i9r]

Organic farming was never about making produce more nutritious, but to lessen the environmental impacts of “traditional” farming. But of course, we have to make it all about us, so over time the original intent has been forgotten. Now it’s mostly just marketing.

[@LeCrenn]

Thank you. Exactly what I was thinking. I’m always confused when people say organic isn’t more nutritious. Who is claiming that it is?

[@Debbie338]

Most organic products are not helping the environment. Most organic crops require so much more land and water to produce (compared to conventional crops), that any environmental positives are far outweighed by the negative.

[@beenaplumber8379]

The regulations defining organic farming, produce, and meat were written to satisfy the big manufacturers like ADM and Monsanto so they could charge even more for their cheaply made products by calling them organic. Organic means nothing good, but before that legal definition was written, it did mean something.

[@rumblefish9]

Except they don't because organic farming still uses pesticides. And in some cases, more of the pesticide because they use less effective ones. Organic farming is also not sustainable. And we know this because we've seen it happen in India.

[@beenaplumber8379]

@@rumblefish9 That has more to do with the definition of organic farming. What has legally been called organic farming in the US since the 90s has been a disgrace. Organic farming is not unsustainable. The definition of organic farming is simply ludicrous. (Okay, I don't know the laws in India, but I believe such laws internationally are heavily influenced by powerful multinational corporations as well as US policy.)

[@PopShot76]

This lady is legit. Im a farmer, and she nailed the pesticide/organic segment.

[@tmpwow4282]

Respect for keeping us fed! -Californian suburbanite

[@billiegoat4240]

Hello, I'm also a farmer. You should know chemical pesticides and fertilizers absolutely have a negative effect on the environment. Most are broad spectrum so they kill the targeted pest along with beneficial bugs and microbes in the soil, and they aren't too good for our bodies either.

[@billiegoat4240]

Organic produce is way better for our health and environment, the best is no spray or pesticides at all, using natural integrated pest management techniques and permaculture ideas. Nature has a way of balancing things out of you let it

[@Neo_Theo]

Placebo effect makes plenty of sense as an occasional benefit: you reduce stress because you believe that your problem is being treated, you focus on your good feelings because you are checking for them, and then the inverse for both those on the negative side.

[@CardinalSinOfCake]

I absolutely adore your no nonsense attitude, delivery, and the amount of knowledge you have. Very professional with an underlying tone of "please, don't be stupid, we care about you." Thank you for caring about everyone, even if they're... Special.

[@dr.andrealove]

Science literacy impacts everyone!

[@Censortubes]

Yet they pushed the 💉 hahah

[@trublacking8572]

​@@Censortubesjust like her answer to genetically modified food but yet it's banned in other countries

[@AIHumanEquality]

@@trublacking8572 What countries would those be? Cause I believe most countries use GMOs. I'm willing to bet I could hold a genetically modified apple up with a non genetically modified apple and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Why? Cause they're the same. The genetically modified aspect of crops and food is to grow it faster and in better quality and quantity. It's the same food.

[@Censortubes]

@@AIHumanEquality literally false ccp bot.

[@sornasarker9919]

I am here to agree😂 As a dentist I can say I entered this field really optimistic and ready to help people. I truly believed some empathy and education would help others. It helps some but not all. On a daily basis at least one patient tries to educate me about how I am incorrect about pretty known facts about dentistry. It is discouraging and it is one of the biggest factors of dentist burnout

[@oneworldfamily]

Then maybe dentists need to be trained how to communicate with these questioning/opinionated patients? We learnt helpful, compassionate ways at uni - motivational interviewing / nonviolent communication.

[@vegito179]

Well learn to listen,just like the lady in the video u r also programmed to believe science says

[@24lamistica]

@@oneworldfamilyOr maybe patients should stop believing everything they see on the internet and trust the provider’s advice?? If these arrogant, opinionated patients have the nerve to challenge a licensed dentist’s knowledge with their Google🤓☝🏼 “facts” I think they might’ve as well just cure themselves and not go to any doctor at all…

[@oneworldfamily]

@@24lamistica Yes, you make a fair point. But it's also a complicated societal issue. Medical philosophy has discussed it for many years. The hypothesis is that, with the unprecedented widespread availability of once-exclusive knowledge, people are questioning medical paternalism. As a former clinician, personally I welcome it. But I know it rubs a lot of health professionals up the wrong way. For a better understanding as to why this is happening, I recommend the book 'Medical Nemesis', by Ivan Illich. Written in the 70s, long before the internet, but it's still relevant today.

[@chronometer9931]

@@24lamistica Have fun going where that naive path brings you lol

[@WildH10L]

Scientist here, thanks for adressing such a variety of topics in a truthful, yet approachable way for the layman. The rise of pseudoscience is so frustrating but we need more science communication like this to make science truthworthy and approachable.

[@Aro9313]

If you want to combat pseudoscience / declining trust in science, do your part to foster academic integrity better than your predecessors did.

[@johnsimth6587]

What about her dismissal of Chiro because of the beliefs of its founders? Shall we dismiss all blood sciences? All neuroscience?

[@OutsiderLabs]

@@johnsimth6587 One of the three fields you just mentioned has no actual peer reviewed proof it works. Guess which one.

[@johnsimth6587]

@@OutsiderLabs Not Chiropractic, you gotta time travel back a few (more than a few) decades to make that statement. Chirpractic isn't a vacuum without any information, the studies are out there and they're peer reviewed. You're just stuck in a narrative because "OF COURSE" there couldn't be any peer reviewed.... until you learn there are.

[@hardlogic3046]

@@johnsimth6587 Peer review doesn't mean anything but "some people speedily glazed over and only checked for the big faux-pas", it's in no way shape or form a badge of honor.

[@CommentsandReview]

The biggest thing to remember is that science is an ongoing process. When someone says, “the science says” ask for the study. Science doesn’t say anything, it’s only the studies. It’s using the name of science to disregard or bully others that has caused the decrease in trusting the results of reputable studies.

[@debralecuivre3366]

A lot of people throw out opinions online and some take it as gospel. Always, always follow the documented science.

[@pnutfren]

no, Follow the Funding of the Science.

[@LonesomeDove-dn8dk]

Too many people lack the ability to actually read documented science and understand what it says.

[@EiferBrennan]

​@@pnutfrenno.

[@voxorox]

My favorite demonstration of homeopathic "medicine" is when James Randi downed an entire bottle on stage, then went on to wonder if you could overdose on it by not taking any at all. The man was a treasure.

[@noone-re3zp]

What did he mean by that? I don't get it.

[@michete]

​@@noone-re3zp commenting in case they answer cause I also don't get it

[@AleXxTM123]

@@michete i explained the joke

[@musthaf9]

@@noone-re3zp In homeopathy, the more dilute the medicine is, the stronger its effect. By not taking the medicine, you are like taking a super dilute medicine (since its the same as nothing) which should mean you are taking a very strong homeopathic medicine. by their own logic, you should overdose

[@michete]

@@AleXxTM123 explained it...where lol

[@Lolittaaa9304]

I could listen her speak and explain the entire day long! Straightforward, professional as most important and trustworthy informative

[@PharaohHowell-mb6bo]

Anyone calling themselves an 'influencer' is red flag #1....