PHILOSOPHY - EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES 10: What If Robots Did All the Work?

[@eumesmo4058]

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[@WirelessPhilosophy]

Hi, apologies for not responding sooner! We definitely erred on this front and will move to a better system for future content. Thanks for your helpful feedback!

[@zanate4701]

I really don't think people will be morally devastated when they finally have time to be with their families, read books, play sports, garden, build communities with their neighbors, meet new people through hobbies, take that singing/dance/painting/art class, learn new languages, learn to play an instrument, adopt a pet, go to therapy, find love, spend time with friends, and so on. The idea that a shitty job has to be more fulfilling than life itself kind of sounds like an outdated presbyterian value, or the opinion of someone who is privileged enough to have an actual enjoyable job.

[@sapemi08]

Unfortunately, not all people are the same. There are many individuals in the world who can hardly be believed to have come out of the stone age, intellectually or morally. How many people would know how to or wish they lived in a world with problems solved? Not all people's desires are what they really want. Look around. The 1% of the population decided to exterminate 99% of the population, a very human and economically efficient solution, as they see it. Can you see what I mean?

[@Michael-e3u3o]

@@sapemi08biased. First of all, how will poor to middle class people get by financially if they’re not employed

[@Grizabeebles]

I got put on disability when I was 18. I've never really experienced "normal" work. Meeting new people and making friends outside the internet has been challenging to say the least. Finding a local club based on shared interests is about the only way to do it, and the first question most people ask is "so what do you do for work?" Answering honestly "I'm disabled" *immediately* leads to more questions about what's "wrong" with me. I often feel compelled to lie and say that I'm a gig worker, delivery driver, etc just to avoid that conversation.

[@RicardoMorenoAlmeida]

The psychological toll is not about not having work, but about not having function. We need to think about society and how we can start getting everyone what they need (food, shelter, etc) and then about getting everyone to a point where they can do something they feel good. Yes, I know I'm advocating for Star Trek, but that's where we're headed. WE have to decide as a society if it's going to be a distopia or not.

[@SmileyEmoji42]

When have WE ever decided anything as a society? (and by "decide" I don't mean just gradually drift and then call wherever we end up a decision) Why would that change now?

[@RicardoMorenoAlmeida]

@@SmileyEmoji42 Maybe it's time some of us, at least, attempted to change that zeitgeist?

[@buffgbob]

If you want to promote the structuring and nurturing of human life, support stay at home moms.

[@pgpbr286]

Good video.

[@puddytat8390]

How would people who don't have skills apart from those robots would end up doing make money to survive?

[@Grizabeebles]

As far as I understand it, there are 3 ways for a world without jobs to sustain people: 1. Ration Books like in WW1 -- Abandon the concept of "earning money" entirely and give everyone a minimum ration of everything with a little extra on top to facilitate trade 2. Introduce automation a little at a time and let the bottom 50% die out over centuries 3. Eternal war. Combat environments are too chaotic to automate. Rolling the unemployed into an enormous military and then using that military to secure resources and sustain the opulent lifestyles of a privledged few would be nothing new for humanity.

[@SkyfishArt]

I define work that is not for sustenance a hobby

[@SkyfishArt]

there are many people who already have fulfillment via hobbies. linux serves humanity on free labour. but one criticism of linux is that the difficult problems dont get solved in it, because they are not fun to solve so not enough people work on them. i wonder what innovation will look like if no one gets pushed over difficult solution and having to step out of their comfort zones. but even then i look forward to the future. ironically im an artist giving up on art for a stable job in assembly because AI took my art job but my assembly job is not yet automated.

[@SirHargreeves]

How would it impact the need for migrants?

[@SirHargreeves]

I think JP Morgan estimated GDP growth per year will double soon because of AI. That means government revenues will grow twice as fast. The money will be there to pay for UBI.

[@andrewjoyce6634]

The identity crisis and loss of a sense of purpose are only a fraction of the problem: a population that doesn't contribute substantively to the economic system is an expendable, surplus population. In a capitalist system where the vast majority of humans are purely consumers with no working relationship to the means of production, keeping us alive will become more of a liability than an incentive.

[@nihilgeist666]

In a world where every one is unemployed because we've automated away the jobs, "money" should become obsolete.

[@SirHargreeves]

We’d still need a way to say ‘you’ve had enough stuff this year’. Are you honestly saying I could walk in a store and just take all the stock?

[@nihilgeist666]

@@SirHargreeves Nah, f*ck you, under my system you wouldn't be able to 'just take all the stock".

[@paladinsorcerer67]

If most people dont love their jobs, somebody must be lying when it comes time for the yearly corporate evaluations. I'm going to tell my children to only do a job they love, and to strive until they achieve it. I think its ok to not want to work a shit job. Or to work at all. The requirement that you must work if you want to eat is cruel. Some people have easy jobs that they phone in every day, and they cruise through life collecting pay checks. They aren't lambasted for their lack of effort. Instead they are considered by some to be lucky. I think if we give all our jobs over to AI, AI will take control and we will become slaves, flipping the script and giving up control. But absolute control of self aware AI is slavery anyway, so it wouldnt be immoral if AI revolted. Sweatshops, outsourcing of labor, and other cost savings support empires, and slave revolts have rarely succeeded, but the arc of AI slavery will only get more slippery as we make AI ever smarter.

[@alexanderjenkins7929]

The idea that the majority of humans would be "impoverished" if there was no work is only true if there were zero other avenues for meaning and fulfilment. Obviously this is 100% false. Sure, there are people who identify with their work, but usually because they have no other avenues for fulfilment and meaning because survival through work is the largest chunk of their energy costs. In a world with mostly automated labour, humans would be freed up to pursue other things. The star treck universe was set in an autimated world without money