Personality Tests Are Dumb... And Dangerous

[@WisecrackEDU]

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[@johnnygoodman2003]

Personality tests are only useful in a job after being hired. Being hired based on a personality test is just plain discrimination.

[@jesuschristthesecond]

weird way to get my attention

[@LonkinPork]

yo psst you forgot to pin this homies

[@deshaebeasley]

@@WisecrackEDU Five topics to fix society via discussion: -Anti-natalism vs Natalism -The 3 basic needs/prenatal needs Three things necessary for human evolution that are provided while in the womb which are; food, shelter and medical care. -Platinum rule Do whatever makes one happier unless it interferes with another persons ability to do the same. -MBTI (research yours and connect with others) -Art (pick one and get better at it!)

[@JCUDOS]

Stop calling shit dumb, maybe I'd consider it. ;)

[@ikkeheltvanlig]

Bad personality tests: "What kind of person are you?" Good personality tests: "Which Pokemon are you?"

[@GBanana-_-]

YOOOO

[@OccuredJakub12]

I'm such a total Lanturn

[@Matthigast]

Don't talk to me, unless you're a Piplup! Edit: I can make an exception for some Riolu.

[@Kardfogu]

To be frank, that's surprisingly better. These tests oversimplify into a 4bit integer, 1 of 16, Pokemon may not cover the human nature well, but at least there's about hundreds...

[@peanutsveryepicchannel8699]

WHICH MINECRAFT BLOCK ARE YOU? I AM MOSSY COBBLESTONE STAIR

[@LonkinPork]

Finance bros will turn their nose up when their girlfriend mentions astrology, but swear by their MBTI test results like it's the Gospel of John.

[@olaf3140]

Tbf astrology describes your personality based on when you were born while MBTI describes based on your behaviour and preferences which makes more sense to me.

[@LonkinPork]

@@olaf3140 they're equally useful.

[@SpookySkellyGurl]

@@LonkinPorktrue in the sense that both are useless.

[@LonkinPork]

@@SpookySkellyGurl yes that is the point I was making.

[@vlc-cosplayer]

Common sigma male W 💪🔥💯

[@Dodgerzden]

I also knew the Myers-Briggs personality test was obvious pseudo-science because my result as an INFJ just did not match up with my zodiac sign or numerology chart.

[@HylianFox3]

My favorite description of Myers-Briggs has been "astrology for nerds"

[@leonardomoraes6505]

​@@HylianFox3I like the term "business astrology"

[@sagenerd419]

😂

[@len4129]

@@HylianFox3 nah nah it's "astrology for atheists"

[@jforgotten2620]

Why is nobody laughing at this 😭😭

[@Ford_prefect_42]

I took the Myers Briggs test at my previous job. I took it as my work persona, took it as my ideal self and took it as my couch potato Saturday self. SURPRISE! Got different results. No one is one thing. Even just the environment you're in, if you've eaten recently or slept the night before can change these results. Your self identity isn't a test result

[@markgobrien9791]

I paid $50 to take the MB test and found out I am a FOOL type.

[@sandhillfarmer1]

Sounds totally like something an INFP would say

[@sandhillfarmer1]

Actually I meant ENFP. -T, of course.

[@des_antilles]

Right? Most of my close friends are so I would know

[@saranonimus9211]

Like, literally...INFPs hate the idea of being categorized 😂

[@detach103ff4]

Hahahaa fuck, WINNER

[@llipses]

Def an INFP rising

[@AR-ln7ip]

I'm a nurse who is an introvert. I play the part of an extravert for 12 hours, and then I need to recover in my cave.

[@erinperez6083]

Fellow introvert here, and I taught high school for 20 years. I gave my students all of my energy in class and needed to go home to peace and quiet in order to recharge. As I got older, I learned that intro/extro is about how our energy drains and refills rather than if we are shy or outgoing.

[@jonathanhibberd9983]

@@erinperez6083 Exactly. And this has always been my biggest problem with MB. They say "Introvert/Extrovert", but half the questions are about "shy/outgoing". It doesn't even know what it's trying to measure, let alone how to do it with any kind of scientific accuracy. (Though oddly enough, I've been a consistent INXP for decades, everytime I take it, with the only variation being if I'm more Thinking or Feeling.)

[@TeodorAngelov]

@@jonathanhibberd9983 weird, i am also INXP

[@deshaebeasley]

@@AR-ln7ip Five topics to fix society via discussion: -Anti-natalism vs Natalism -The 3 basic needs/prenatal needs Three things necessary for human evolution that are provided while in the womb which are; food, shelter and medical care. -Platinum rule Do whatever makes one happier unless it interferes with another persons ability to do the same. -MBTI (research yours and connect with others) -Art (pick one and get better at it!)

[@tuan4482]

​@@erinperez6083exactly. i also hate how ppl use "im an introvert" as an excuse to do this and not do that😭 like no maybe its bcuz u have an anxiety disorder or ur just a fucking coward, that's it

[@albedz7759]

I liked taking them for fun, in the same way you'd take a quiz on which character from the Avengers you are.

[@lukeluke333lukeluke]

Same! I never taken them too serous. I do know people that take them serous and try to conform their personalty around results.

[@TheR999]

But I like those tests. I always end up as a girl for some reason and it’s oddly consistent.

[@uniquedisplayname6051]

I'm Wolverine!

[@Notius]

my favorite part of personality tests is the really ambiguous questions like "Would you nearly kill Iron Man to protect your 80-year-old brainwashed warcrime buddy?"

[@K1ng1995]

@@lukeluke333lukeluke People like that need to do some soul searching

[@isaac1670]

I feel like a part of the appeal of personality tests and astrology is that it offers an easy way to "know yourself" during a time when people have little time to truly engage in self reflection.

[@bluester7177]

Reading this comment section, this seems to be likely true.

[@floatingbooks4058]

so true, fellow venus adept

[@Corey.Coolidge]

Day to day what I hate the most about personality tests is when people use them as an excuse for bad behavior. "Of course I'm going to act this way, I'm a(n) (introvert, Gemini, New Yorker, etc.)." No, you're a bad person and you need to go fix yourself.

[@WisecrackEDU]

that's the worst.

[@block4562]

My favourite part is when people keep taking the test until they get a result they view as favourable and then stick with that one

[@LuisSierra42]

In a deterministic universe, we are not responsible for our actions

[@mgmchenry]

As an introverted Gemini New Yorker I gotta tell you I feel targeted by your comment due to living with ADHD my whole life and running into people pushing that go fix yourself attitude instead of accepting that I literally process information and situations differently than they do

[@wimsylogic65]

I took the Meyer Briggs test in college didn't understand it then. I just knew that it came out INFP. I didn't understand what that meant. After some years I began to understand it and I think it fits. I look at it in a hindsight kind of way and not anything that Guides me forward. Kind of like how I live my life fits the mold of the I NFP, But I'm not actively living my life to fit that mold. Feels kind of like a fascinating coincidence, That happens too often. What do you think? I once Accidentally, bribed a cop with blueberries from my pocket. Literally, no endowendo. Somebody called the cops because a young woman was leaping from rock to rock over by the falls. The cop stopped me on the way back. Oh yeah that woman was me. I was picking blueberries, And watching the sunset. I thought I was being arrested. I didn't know what 4 but I also didn't know why the cop would stop me. He asked me what I was doing in that someone had called about me. I told him I was picking blue berries, And watching the sunset. And then I offered in the blueberries I picked, from my pocket. He declined. I wasn't arrested. That's good. I also learned that that's apparently a popular spot for people to do drugs. Seeing me on top of the falls at the dam, They probably thought I was on drugs. 😅 Is it bad that people think I'm on drugs but I'm sober. I have a vivid imagination, I don't need drugs. The blueberries were sweet, The sunset was tranquil, And I feel like such a bad a** jumping rock to rock without falling in the water. Is it really so crazy?

[@pawejakubek9372]

Psychologist here! MBTI sucks and in my country its shown to psych students as an example of pseudo science and how not to make good tests. On other hand MMPI-2 is a great tool in clinical diagnosis and it should be use only in that way. Using it in HR is absurd and wrong.

[@etokoseta]

Are u from Russia?

[@pawejakubek9372]

@etokoseta what why? Im from Poland

[@kosmokoshka6232]

I took one of those online tests and it said I have Internet Connectivity problems! 🙀

[@CrashCubeZeroOne]

Typical ENTP

[@GBanana-_-]

OH SHITTTT- -ENTP (probably)

[@caitthecat]

You work for the parks department, too?

[@faithseden293]

We love Andy Dwyer here

[@mushroommummy]

😂😂

[@Motoroil20xx]

I was really into MBTI over a decade ago, but then I began to see its advantages as a template for character design and development. I applied the concept to story writing, determining the best dramatic story points for each personality type.

[@Motoroil20xx]

I was an INFP as well lol

[@pigeon2503]

I did this too! Imo its the only valid usage

[@seaemji8591]

My thoughts exactly. I felt like the DND alignment chart was too simple, MBTI works much better

[@Roderykz]

This!

[@fluffledreamyy7650]

this is literally the only correct way to use personality tests 💀

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

As someone with an actual PhD in psych testing let me just say how much Myers-Briggs is not a thing in the field. It only came to my attention through Tinder actually.

[@SDPh.D.]

I concur as a fellow Ph.D. psychologist. 👍

[@Newton-Reuther]

I mean, it was created by "experts" but so was drapetomania and excited delirium, so .... /s

[@ijustawannaprivicie8031]

I had some HR flunkie do a Meyers-Briggs thingy for my department (IT) where we all took the test, then discussed our results and how to use that information to interact with colleagues. I all but laughed at her during the group pow-wow about how unreliable and pseudo-scientific it was. I altered the test results so that the print-out said my personality type was PBNJ.

[@Emilio1985]

Interesting. I was taught about the Myers-Briggs in my early psych education, but it was always heavily caveated and presented alongside the criticisms of it. Largely it was presented as kind of an historical thing that lots of people think they know but that they don't know. Kind of like Freudian psychoanalysis. Granted, my PhD was eventually in Cognitive Science and not Psychology per se, but I did/do have a heavy Psych background.

[@CaptPeon]

That checks out

[@spottedtiger380]

"I'm a quirky Parisian woman" made me choke on my ice cream

[@WisecrackEDU]

I hope you survived and enjoyed the rest of your ice cream.

[@to_ur_heart]

Give me your ice cream

[@qew6686]

You live in LA. Everyone cries in LA while driving. Road Rage is just misprocessed sorrow and fear.

[@WisecrackEDU]

this is true.

[@foogriffy]

i can confirm. i was homeless doing postmates on a bike in LA to get by and got run off the path by some guy. i yelled at him so hard bc i just snapped thinking my bike was broken and i was gonna lose my 'job' lol. you joke but even the cyclists have road rage

[@andrewkohler3707]

"Road Rage is just misprocessed sorrow and fear." Oh, honey, that is SO true.

[@Alan_Duval]

Driving around in a trance-like state in your armoured emotional bubble, only awakened by someone doing something unexpected. But it was only unexpected because you were not really paying attention to the world ouside your armoured emotional bubble (aka safe space).

[@neferiusnexus]

Fear and loathing in LA

[@blademonkey29]

I learned in HS that all personality tests were crap because you most people can never aswer truthfully about themselves. Intentionally or not, their personal baises toward themselves, good or bad, skew any outcome.

[@SoylentSystem]

Back in 2008 my university's career counselors had their Meyers-Briggs type posted on their door, even American academia took it seriously. I became skeptical of Meyers-Briggs when I realized these types are very similar to Dungeons and Dragons (I'm chaotic good) types and are made for a fictional world.

[@BantuEconomicServices]

The world runs of fictional narratives

[@juliachatwin3907]

​@@BantuEconomicServicesNah. The world runs with the addition of fictional narratives, not because of them.

[@BantuEconomicServices]

@@juliachatwin3907 i, fundamentally disagree. anyone who has lived in multiple places knows how much the mythos of location influences its culture thus how everything moves. but most of those are based around beliefs and awareness particular to them. However, rarely ever based on objective truth

[@juliachatwin3907]

@BantuEconomicServices Yeah, I've lived in four different countries. I'm from Brazil with an English father. Like I said, fictional narratives are absolutely part of the world. But to say that this is how the world runs is an exaggeration. Unless you're talking about religious beliefs. There are plenty of societies that run by religion, and that absolutely counts as fictional.

[@BantuEconomicServices]

@@juliachatwin3907 see, you’ve proved my point because it’s all about linguistic engineering. What is the difference between religion and the constant pursuit of any other objective or world view? Everything is based on beliefs. The facts are on the surface but what carries these different places. Maybe you’ll appreciate this. I don’t know. “What is the best way to put food on the table for the family at the end of the day” Essentially Throughout human history And beliefs around that one statement basically explain the world at every point in history through the human lens. I could be wrong. But from my point of view that is how I see it. Everything else is just shadows in the cave.

[@jiofnl5371]

I am an autist, MBTI helped me greatly understanding other people. And not by taking it litterally, but in broad strokes it shows how different people have different interpretation priorities. And it makes me able to make more accurate assumptions about what people in my environment want. That gives me tools how to better interact with them and live a more harmonious life style.

[@ShaedeReshka]

This is a fascinating response to me because I've had the opposite experience. The people who would proudly proclaim being one kind of person would without fail turn around and act like another category, and then another category. It's just like how Micheal took the test again and got a different result. I found it more confusing and nonsensical than helpful and as a result could never take it seriously.

[@toddfraser3353]

​@@ShaedeReshkathat is common for how most people deal with classification systems in general. A good number of people want to pidgin hole themselves and others into neat categories where real life isn't so easy to put people into buckets. However a side effect is unfortunately when people are placed into a category, many people take comfort in that as they had "Found their people" and will socially adapt themselves to fit that category. Even if they are just barely in said category, and a different circumstance would had changed the result. Scientist use classification systems as a tool to help make sense of a very broad universe, and allows them to focus and analyze traits of a particular subset. However it isn't useful by itself to work on an individual. @jiofnl5371 had been classified as autistic, now that is a very broad diagnosis, where how their traits affect their lives can very greatly, from being unnoticed to making it nearly impossible to function in the broad society. However in terms of clinical understanding and possible treatment methods, the diagnosis is helpful in a way which some accomodations, as well some treatments or therapies tend to help the individual to function better. Classification is a tool, not a hard rule

[@jiofnl5371]

@@ShaedeReshka i think the problem is to see these types as laws and rigid boxes. Mental state heavely influences the priorities you set and thus answering these questions. so if you take that into account and just see a person generally speaking matching more with one type then the other 15, doesnt mean they dont show traits of teh other types. it just that they more likely to prefer the one over the other. And as such i could way more accuratly estimate people priorities and thus a way to interact with them. I understand that this might come acrosss as very vague, but it has helped me greatly to deal with the people around me.

[@ShaedeReshka]

@@jiofnl5371 I get that, as I've used other strategies to understand people and try to predict their behaviors or reactions to things. For me, this test was kind of like the political compass - based on a lot of what felt like bad premises that led to erratic outputs. Nonetheless, it is possible to derive some meaning out of wrong or incomplete theories. For instance, Newtonian physics was replaced by relativity physics, but we still use Newtonian calculations because they're quick, easy, and accurate enough for many situations. It's just about knowing how to apply a system in a practical way, and we all do that differently.

[@stalepork1309]

yeah, i don’t think anyone really understands the point. one of my friends said that it was fake because it’s scientifically proven that there are more than 16 personalities. Myers briggs has always been about broad strokes imo. otherwise, nobody really digs deep enough to find out about function stacks, which i think is the most useful part of it.

[@neizha]

My mom was an ICU nurse for 40 years and is very much an introvert. She doesn't really interact with new people well and usually will find one or two people she knows well at a party and cling to them the entire time or sit by herself. She was a fantastic nurse, I think being an introvert helped her keep a necessary level of emotional distance from patients while still being kind and caring for them.

[@Alan_Duval]

I think that's a perfect analysis. It also explains why nurses suffer so badly from burnout.

[@goreobsessed2308]

Works great in security that's for sure

[@Pooh0Bear8]

​@@Alan_Duval that is more related to the volume of patients per RN on the floor, and lack of staffing overall. 5-7pateints per RN on a med surge floor, 3-4patients per RN on an ICU floor Basically the cannot effectively do their job, are placed in a ethical and legal risk. Private equity companies are slowly destroying healthcare.

[@Alan_Duval]

@@Pooh0Bear8 I couldn't agree more. Same with teacher class sizes.

[@NarpytheCrimeDog]

Dear Michael's Corporate Overlords and Masters, thank you for allowing him to stop doing Better Help ads. I appreciate your mercy and generosity.

[@xIQ188x]

People call me Dark Triad, but I’m actually Shadow Triumvirate. It’s really frustrating.

[@section9999]

Those bastards

[@SupremeFenix274]

What is you triumvirate in charge of?

[@xIQ188x]

@@SupremeFenix274 Shadow. It’s in the name bruh

[@Gelph]

Yeah, I’m dark triad. We’re a branch of a Chinese based criminal syndicated that controls darkness. It’s very frustrating when we get confused with the shadow triumvirate. Shadow and darkness are not inherently the same and its quite offensive when people conflate the two constantly.

[@CountObvious]

@@Gelph Look, some of my best friends are shadows, but honestly it's hard to tell shadows apart.

[@misterwachulochulo5262]

Everyone gets INFP in that test because the questions are like A) Are you unintelligent, brutish and evil? B)Are you a special super cute fairy who is basically perfect? Then everyone votes B and gets INFP.

[@12DAMDO]

you'd be surprised but the most common result on that test is actually ESTP or ENTJ (which makes sense because "normies" for lack of a better word, tend to be extroverted, and we currently live in a timeline where thinking is valued over feeling, as if those 2 concepts can't co-exist, because "fax don't care about printers") INFP is not the most common result (at least not for as far as i've seen)

[@may_ryann]

Nah, INFP is VERY common. A lot of people I know got INFP at some point even though they have very distinct personalities. I noticed the test tries to push the intuition really hard by making the "senser" options make one feel shallow like a kiddie pool.​@@12DAMDO

[@digaddog6099]

I got INTP, and get that result pretty consistently.

[@caitthecat]

​@@12DAMDOWhich version of the test, though?

[@12DAMDO]

@@caitthecat i was talking about people i met irl and online, so idk what version they took..

[@joshv.1490]

This video was a vindication for how much I've hated corporate personality assessment and the upper management suckers that buy into them.

[@oshof801]

The term "Human Capital" made my skin crawl

[@Vent69420]

My college made me sign up and the nyt sucks ass send me propaganda daily on my mail

[@neferiusnexus]

as well it should

[@jk_lol9266]

I love when companies use broad categorical sorting mechanisms to determine who is worthy of a raise

[@a_worldly_man]

I believed this MBTI crap when I was a teenager, among other things. I think what knocked some sense into me was realizing my "introvertedness" was just my closeted hatred of various societal standards paired with being shy around strangers.

[@NoNotThatPaul]

The CEO category of worse guy ever is spot on

[@Himaggie]

Fundamental to my job as a mental health professional: personality is not immutable but rather something that changes over time according to how you decide to develop yourself or not.

[@KittyinAnotherCity-qy1lu]

Everyone wants to believe that they're special whilst simultaneously believing that they're 'normal'. Please do a deep dive into the Love Languages bs. That carp's been intermittently pooing me off for years. Do you remember the song that accompanied the book?

[@Rithmy]

WHat do you find bs about love languages? I can see how you doubt their origin and such. I just also see some benefits such as: - Removing the belief that either wants to be loved in the same way or in the same way you like to be love - Pointing out the importance of voicing how you want to be loved instead of expecting to be loved in a certain way without telling. (dismantling the destructive romantic stereotype of "if they love me they would know") - creating a basis for communication about the seemingly forgotten topic (at least thats what many say) Im interested in your points

[@KittyinAnotherCity-qy1lu]

​ @Rithmy Quite a lot, but to try and narrow it down: 1.) Imo, referring to each gesture as a "language" both simplifies and overcomplicates the problems that people face. New languages are alien to us, it takes a lot of time, effort, and immersion for most people to become competent at them, and then more time still to become fluent, work on various cultural idioms and overcome barriers inherent by not being a native speaker. On the flip side (from what I've read of Chapman's book, and the general concept), the 'love languages' are just basically things that come with being human and relating to others through your own view of the world and empathy. The terms are incredibly vague, and, much like horoscopes/ cold reading, seem to appeal to the vast majority of humans (and even most other animals). “Receiving gifts”- who doesn’t like gifts? “Words of affirmation”- so, having your feelings and experiences validated and not rejected? “Quality time”- again, maybe it’s my broken brain, but I assume MOST people get into relationships with people because they LIKE spending time/ ‘quality’ time with them. “Acts of service”- ok, so what is ‘service’? Doing the dishes when I cook dinner? Putting the bins out once in a while? Picking up my flu medication when I’m sick? These are just basic things. Framing each one of them as a ‘love language’ seems to put them up on an unnecessary pedestal imo- if you’re actively THINKING about what you’re doing and what you’ll get, then that just seems awfully transactional to me. Transactional relationships are not cool. 2.) You can’t ignore the cynical source. Especially when it comes to self help books. ‘Self help’ and the church seem quite intertwined, from what I’ve observed. At their worst, they prey on the weak and vulnerable. Because, by the time you’ve purchased a ‘self help’ book, you’ve admitted to yourself that you need help (which, in itself, is a GOOD thing), and people are ripe to start believing stuff they otherwise might not have. 3.) Most self help books I’ve encountered, besides being religiously motivated, don’t actually help. They lead the person to start chasing their own tail by believing that all of their complex problems can be solved if they just follow the advice in the book. Look, I can admit that I know relatively nothing. However, I have been in my current, loving relationship for 15 years; I’ve also had an abusive fascist poo head ‘father’ who made everything transational- and so, what I do know is that simple, healthy communication is the pinnacle/ king pin of EVERY healthy relationship, regardless of whether it’s romantic, platonic, or familial. If you need a corny twee book to tell you that occasionally your sweetheart might like a gift, for you to change the sheets, or just to be told that she’s beautiful/ funny/ clever- then you aren’t communicating, and that’s a problem. I hope this was clear, and you like waffle for breakfast! Enjoy your Saturday! :-)

[@Rithmy]

@@KittyinAnotherCity-qy1lu 2) I agree to the view 100%. I think i can draw helpfull things from the concept and try to use other psychological concept to make the point. And generally i see it favorable in the sense that a interactionistic model of relationships (sry i dont have the correct term in mind, ive to look it up....) is at list hinted at . In most stereotypical books we simply have a stupid transactional ,hyperindividualistic model or a romantizied model of relationships which i find all 3 very toxic. 3) again 100% agree on that one. About the last thing your wrote: The book is not telling you that your partner might like a gift. Its more like the book is telling you that there might be a miscommunication happening with your you knowing. The book tells us to go into communication to get to know what our partner likes instead of assuming it. Maybe its clear for you because you already do it. But for people who are more stuck into bad communication styles it can be very helpfull to get to that healthy communication style. Thats how i see it. It gives a structure to talk about that. So enables communication. In that aspect i see it the same as the book about Nonviolent Communication. A book i can really recommd to anyone ( much better and more important than the love languages one). The aim of the book is also not to tell you that your partner or friend might not like violent communication. Its more about enabling you to more consistently stay nonviolent in your communication. It gives simple ways of how to express your feelings with a clear voice of nonviolence and nonjudgement. Because sometimes we hurt other without wanting to. And to bring the point back (sry for writing so much) i also think that sometimes we don't realize how much we are loved. My experience at least. 1) I agree that transactional relationships are not good. I dont see any hint of that in this love language book. Also: activly thinking about gestures of love won't make them transactional. Its not aobut consciouss or unconsciouss. Its about Intent: "I give love so that i get loved back" OR "I give love because i feel love towards you". Bot intentions can happen with active and passiv thinking about it. With that said i can also see how see it as cold reading. But i disagree that act of service are basic things. I mean they are the basics but your use of basic implies that one should expect it and not feel gratitude for those small things. This is a good example of how our thinking is disabling us form seeing acts of love. Because in the end what matters is not that one time were he proposed with a big event, but the millions of times were she listened to my little troubles. That persistent effort to be there for me. Also from my understanding it was said that everyone has it. You even say its yourself that those are "things that come with being human and relating to others". So i find it alien that a few sentences later you mock those things for being in every human. Like; That was not the point. THe point is that every human values those categories differently. I for example like touch more than gifts. I have a really hard time appreciating gifts. Sure i might like them but i don't see it as love. Just like you see acts of service as basic and have a hard time seeing them as love. This is about understanding each other better. I can agree that the 5 categories are arbitrary and up for scrutiny. But the method of analyzing what actions you feel love them most in is a view that i dont see in any other concept that clearly and easy to udnerstand. Sure it comes with its reductionist tendencys.

[@olaf3140]

Yo speak for yourself, I don't wanma be normal! (I'm an enneagram 4)

[@deshaebeasley]

@@KittyinAnotherCity-qy1lu Five topics to fix society via discussion: -Anti-natalism vs Natalism -The 3 basic needs/prenatal needs Three things necessary for human evolution that are provided while in the womb which are; food, shelter and medical care. -Platinum rule Do whatever makes one happier unless it interferes with another persons ability to do the same. -MBTI (research yours and connect with others) -Art (pick one and get better at it!)

[@paulroyle-grimes]

fun fact i was selected out of a job interview for teaching because of a personality test. descriminatory tests - seems illegal.

[@ashleyyyy8833]

My personality type is being the one in the friend group who rolls their eyes and refuses to participate in the personality test conversation. This video is so vindicating.

[@JokerCrowe]

I think there are definitely different personalities out there. Anecdotally I think there's some truth to Jung's Cognitive Functions and the "stacks" that have been proposed when it comes to how people make decisions and what they prioritize when it comes to how the see the world. I think it can be a good tool to understand yourself and other people in broad strokes. With that being said, obviously every human is unique, and your personality is determined on the micro-scale by a lot of different factors; and my biggest gripe with assessments like MBTI is when they're used in a professional setting. Me wanting to understand myself, and finding a way to understand people is one thing, but actually using it to determine "who works best in a team" and "who deserves a promotion" (like some people seem to have mentioned) is another. I don't think there's room in the professional world for that kind of thinking - people can get a long, or not get along for a bunch of different reasons.

[@MmKayUltra1]

it sure would be weird if someone had Jung erotic fanfiction. hah anyway please don't look me up on AO3

[@kubo407]

I love that this video was preceded with an advert for a horoscopes app

[@afeeser]

How many sexual dreams is "too many"?

[@WisecrackEDU]

69 in one night.

[@andysaunders8497]

Good for you, but how many sex dreams?​@@WisecrackEDU

[@Gainoffuntion]

37 ... in a row?

[@goreobsessed2308]

It's cool bro let your inner degenerate do it's thing

[@neferiusnexus]

no such thing as too much of a good thing in this case 😈

[@Cymricus]

In my early twenties I ate this stuff up and now I just see it as corporate horoscopes

[@Jedidiah_McCain]

But making a video basically saying “what’s the whole point of personality tests anyways?” is totally ENTP energy, Wisecrack.

[@Maniac0007]

Are you saying that the collective of "Wisecrack" is ENTP? :D

[@codyjoco]

@@Maniac0007💯💯💯

[@diyalectic52]

It could be any Extroverted Intuitive type: INFP, ENFP, ENTP, INTP. We all like being a devils advocate to varying degrees. My INFP sister is worse than her ENTP husband - every reply is "Yeah but couldn't it also be..." 😂

[@ricardoperez9435]

10:15 Introvert ICU nurse here 😂! And we (my co-worker nurses) were discussing about that for a long time. I'm autistic (high functioning) and I can't picture myself doing another job. Most of the autistic people are more driven to care and being kind. So the answer is yes, we're good nurses. Thanks for bringing that subject out and I love your content!

[@jaeric]

I've consistently gotten the same type for the past 20 years across multiple versions of the test. The best use of the test is as a small stepping stone on the way to self discovery. Using it to determine someone's path in life is dystopian.

[@shematite]

I've personally found the MBTI function stacks helpful in communication (since I'm so intuitive, I often have a hard time describing what I observe), figuring out other people's stressors, and realizing why I loathe and despise people with the same personality type as myself (ENFJ- Extroverted-Feeling feedback loop between two people who are primary Fe is INCREDIBLY NOT-FUN)

[@shematite]

All of that to say... Yeah the whole Hogwarts-House sorting hat BS of corporate personality tests is garbage

[@ak-ub1ym]

Was there a stupid YA movie / book made out of it? Divergent or something which explores a dystopian society that was built on personality classism society.

[@shematite]

@@tily5939 well, it's most likely that the tests are less reliable than a personal analysis. Also, with actual mbti including function stacks it's more that personality DEVELOPS over time, starting with the primary function. Also, people use different functions under stress, which is how I, the most extreme extrovert ever, used to test as an introvert

[@dacksonflux]

INTJ is autism. INFJ is cPTSD. So on so forth... Personality types give an illusion that what you're experiencing is just your personality. In reality yes, it affects your personality but no, it doesn't define or limit your personality. It could teach you to accept certain unhealthy behaviors as solidified inherent traits. Your personality 100% changes through out your life, usually once a decade at least. This is the harm of pseudoscience. Just because your results are consistent doesn't mean that it's a valid tool in psychology. Getting the same result is probably just you knowing what options to choose. The truth is, we don't have a scientific way to map out a personality. That's just not a real thing.

[@GartekVilen]

"All models are wrong, but some are useful". Personality types are generally there to be used as a guide for self-reflection in order to figure out what ticks with you and what doesn't.

[@historygems1190]

As a business trainer who has been aware of them for 20+ years they are a good tool to START a conversation. But in the last 5 years they’ve gone from being a tool to some Jedi mind trick where way too much emphasis has been put on them, particularly online. They are all flawed, have been proven to give different results in different situations (even as simple as before or after a meal). They are not definitive nor can they predict the future. Thank you for this intelligent piece.

[@cooltimetravel4959]

I know personality tests are fake, but seeing that Michael is also an INFP makes me more attracted to him

[@TeodorAngelov]

Why are we mostly INFP in here??

[@liamnehren1054]

@@TeodorAngelov isn't that because 2 of the personality types are out ruining other people's lives, 2 are too busy building things to listen to philosophy etc. In fact I always get INFP and yet Michael infuriates me, so I have unsubscribed and yet get pulled in by the titles just to be shown bad opinions again....

[@misterwachulochulo5262]

@@TeodorAngelov Everyone gets INFP in that test because the questions are like A) Are you unintelligent, brutish and evil? B)Are you a special super cute fairy who is basically perfect? Then everyone votes B and gets INFP.

[@TeodorAngelov]

@misterwachulochulo5262 none of my friends that did the test got INFP, but I'm not saying you are wrong

[@gab_gallard]

I would vote A and I am technically INFP.

[@Gernou5]

16 personalities website sucks, because almost EVERYONE gets INFP. im actually an ISFJ and found this out based on actually determining my personal qualities without tests with my friend who's into that stuff. just find a person who knows the innerworkings of this system and they will totally get your actual personality type. and no, behavior isn't directly tied only to personality type, personality type is just one of little things that build you as a person.

[@Person7537]

From an INFP to a fellow INFP, thanks you've changed my perspective on this!

[@WisecrackEDU]

we understand each other.

[@deshaebeasley]

Five topics to fix society via discussion: -Anti-natalism vs Natalism -The 3 basic needs/prenatal needs Three things necessary for human evolution that are provided while in the womb which are; food, shelter and medical care. -Platinum rule Do whatever makes one happier unless it interferes with another persons ability to do the same. -MBTI (research yours and connect with others) -Art (pick one and get better at it!)

[@Nalimias]

words like "human capital" and the entire idea of marketing oneself make me gag. I refuse to warp my personality to please an employer...

[@wrongname2702]

Yay! A topic we can agree on! Personality tests can be like buzzfeed quizzes and super fun to take but most of the time they are garbage and cant tell you anything you dont already know. My employer was trying to implement them recently but its gross and discriminatory

[@DiXtionRap]

Myer brigs itself isn't bad per say, the problem is how often its used as an ironclad prescription rather than a lose description

[@lilchief1117]

10:17 honestly nurses are so undervalued in our society, as many important professions are, I think. My grandma was a nurse throughout my childhood & I remember seeing her as a kind of hero for that. I always wanted to go to work overnight w her & see the work that she did, but sadly that never happened. Stillyet, I think we need to take better care of & give more props to our caretakers & nurturers, like nurses, teachers, parents, etc. A tangent, I know, but a thought was sparked & it went from there 😅

[@WisecrackEDU]

Nurses are so incredibly important.

[@drosophilamelanogaster3121]

It’s like with zodiac signs. It’s fun to look at characters that are the same type and compare yourself to them, but I know people who won’t date a certain type because myers-briggs says they are incompatible. I’m INTJ, everyone pairs me with ENFP, says it’s a perfect match, meanwhile everyone i like is either ISTJ or ISFJ.

[@JaredBruner]

I love that there's no ad on this video, but I'm not sure what it means for you Michael. Hope the channel is well, and thanks for the reminder about meconium.

[@msyoungau]

Had a Temu add come up just after the video started

[@Mushrooms683]

2:27 "also a fairly skeptical thinker" I thought you were gonna counter your INFP placement with that lol. Which would have been fair, but also, Nextraverted Entuition go brrrrrrr

[@VexylObby]

One can use these tests to educate themselves about themselves. They don’t need to feel defined, but can use this sort of information to consider one’s own behaviors/tendencies and preferences.

[@subtlegong2817]

As a new dad I spent a week freaking out that my baby was going as long as 4 days without pooping. It was the first question I asked the doctor during his appointment and she immediately asked if he was being breastfed. When I said yes she told me he could go a week without pooping and he’d still be perfectly healthy as long as he was peeing regularly. No one tells you this stuff before you become a parent. Isn’t that weird?

[@popdop0074]

Just wanna say that while MBTI is flawed as shit, this isn't MBTI. 16p uses big 5 and labels it as MBTI, the actual thing uses cognitive functions based on Jung's work and aren't meant to be a cohesive personality description, just an explanation for internal information processing.

[@LeninMcDonalds]

yeah . Felt like they threw away the baby with the bath water in this video a bit.

[@thefashionablephilosopher]

I totally agree, understanding cognitive functions was really useful in understanding why people might have trouble understanding each other or seeing eye to eye. It also helped me to translate something I'm saying into terms that someone else might understand better if they have different cognitive functions than me. If I'm trying to make a convincing argument to a high Ni user, when I'm a high Ne user myself, I might tone down my usual process of bringing up a series of possibilities that come from a decision, and focus more on the most likely future outcome of that decision.

[@thefashionablephilosopher]

I used the word understand too much, but I'm sure you understand 😂😂😂

[@felixthehuman]

Well, I think a lot of the critiques still apply, no matter how accurate you think a personality test is: the use of tests to categorize/stereotype people the idea of personality as fixed, as an essence that precedes existence the use of personality test results to justify bad behavior

[@BintouWangalang]

Most videos that talk about how wrong it is haven’t understood it. If you’re only using a knife to try to bake cakes, you’re going to think the knife is a useless tool

[@solstice_enigma]

I am an INFP! I took the same personality test you showed in the video years ago and retook it pretty recently and was surprised to see that the results didn't really change at all. I didn't really resonate with it initially but after time passed, I am pretty much the description of INFP. Good video ❤

[@xtieburn]

I love that when hes describing his classification as 'Good ethics, creative spark, and great listener' you could right there realise that just about everyone could think (and would certainly like to think) they have those traits. More seriously, or depressingly, when the place I worked at was bought up by a US company they ran these tests and it was just wretched. They reorganised staff around it with disastrous results, (Moving clueless people in to supervisory roles, moving a warehouse supervisor off the major day time shifts, it was a complete mess and they had to revert most of it to stop the store falling apart.) and everyone that got a particular colored sticker on their name badge found themselves side lined and looked down on, like a version of the brown eye blue eye test that teacher once did. They actually had to notify staff that 'None of the colors are bad guys! Just different!' Thankfully most of this fell away because it was such a disaster, but it took a while and longer still for the damage to be fixed. (Presumably also because managers involved in implementing this nonsense dont want to admit they had been massive idiots.)

[@Insertia_Nameia]

If I may ask, what did the different colors signify? (Both through corpo speak and what they actually meant.)

[@especialexpression6922]

Thanks for the reminder that being an INFP isn't prescriptive and just descriptive of where I'm at now. I've seen many changes in my personality thru the years and it's important to remember you can change anything you don't like about yourself.

[@XanRants]

ashamed to admit JREG was first to make me question my early "introvert" diagnosis and find out it was just trauma

[@nimkiibineshi24049]

John Regular

[@diegocespedes7863]

many such cases

[@nullvoid3265]

Jreg: the psychiatrist's antipsychiatrist.

[@the_quadracorn]

I'm doing a tech course and their first task was taking the freakin Myers-Briggs test. It's kinda bewildering to me.

[@lamarbone1265]

I've taught at two different schools that paid thousands of dollars for a "color personality test" to administer to all students. When I pointed this stuff out, and that the creator hadn't published any research based on his test, or even how he developed it, I was told I was being negative and just needed to "get on board". When I also pointed out that the program was the literal opposite of relationship development and individual instruction, I was reminded that compliance was mandatory.

[@LustStarrr]

It wasn't Social Brain Dynamics, was it?

[@crazydragy4233]

Sounds like someone just wanted to embezzle money

[@EddieVillanuevaArt]

Ha, when I was teaching I used to swing between an INFP Mediator and an ENFP Campaigner, but now that I don't have to deal with students I turned into an INTP Logician. Each year I would make my students take this test to explain the medical/institutional gaze and to illustrate biases inherent in systems of classificiation.

[@Ciek0Karanthus]

I was tested and deemed an INFP in high school, by my guidance counselor, and then gaslit into taking the test again and being labeled an INTP, because no other boys tested as INFP. So as an INFP, naturally I sometimes daydream how my life would've turned out if I didn't take that test at all and didn't feel like my young adult psyche had to be put into a box, where I blamed myself for not having robust friendships or pursuing the goals and career that I wanted before being "guided" into trying and failing at intense STEM fields in college. So yeah, personality tests suck.

[@dk0412]

I got INFP in high school when I was trying to pick a college major, and none of the suggestions matched my interests (I mostly like STEM subjects and experimental social sciences). Turns out I ended up getting INTP later, and I just got INFP because I was severely depressed, because... apparently that's what you usually get when you're depressed.

[@darkcreatureinadarkroom1617]

​@@dk0412I had the opposite experience: I tested as INTJ when I didn't yet know how traumatized I was by my early life experiences, when I put some work into myself it's like it awakened a whole new aspect of myself I didn't think I had, and then I got INFP.

[@petiteplanete]

This video is why I subscribe to this channel. I am 56, first read Sartre 40 years ago, and finally understand Existentialism (and freedom). Sure, this morning I could have told you that existentilism is the difference between being and doing. But now I can tell you that you are not whatever box you think you are stuck in, whatever label you apply to yourself or others apply to you. Nor can you be anything you want. You are a blob stretching out in various directions, streching across the borders those labels imply, but with boundaries. You have the freedom to move within that blog and try things out -- find where your actual boundaries are. What a breakfast!

[@afrosamourai400]

so can i become like Mlk or jesus just by using strong will? really?

[@petiteplanete]

@@afrosamourai400 only if it is within your abilities (if you are free) to do so

[@DexyDaddy]

​​@@afrosamourai400 Honestly, I'd say so. If you open your mind and have strong convictions, you can virtually become or do anything. It's hard to believe, but if you truly put yourself toward something you believe in, you can achieve it.

[@deadhead4077]

Perfect Futurama reference

[@HelroyDelano]

Right around 3:10, set the playback speed to 0.5 for the like-and-subscribe pitch. It broke me.

[@arp2118]

Introverted nurse here, works out great. I do more listening than talking always.

[@jademonass2954]

first time i took the myers briggs the result was completely off, so i immediately knew it was some kind of zodiac style of thing right from the get-go though i will say, after getting the personality that did fit me more (INTJ), i searched and pondered more about myself (especially since i got 100% introversion), which was really nice so it at least makes you self consious also, as someone whos autistic, it really helped me understand other people, seeing things others value more

[@Jrsdigest]

0:40 🥺 your eyebrows aren't bad. It's just more in style to have them shaped up.

[@ArcaneSunset]

just for an experiment, I tried taking the test after 10 years when my results were mainly oscillating between INFP and INTP. Now, 10 years later and after 2 separate therapy journeys, one of which ended recently, I ranked as an INTJ-A for the first time. I have anxiety issues and it's interesting that the test has an extra marker for it (the letter after the dash strongly corresponds with me being anxious vs. me handling anxiety well), but me managing my anxiety somehow both changed that marker and changed my tactics from Prospecting to Judging. I guess this goes a long way in assessing the reliability of the entire concept of "personality test".

[@googotygame]

Same, i have recorded my result of the personality for a few year and it changes over time. it when for INTP to INTJ, occasionally switch the I into E. And the T is really close to the F, only by +6%. It just really shows that personally is not fixed.

[@ArcaneSunset]

@googotygame yeah, in my case it was more that my mental illness was counted as part of my personality, which is no problematic at all

[@JubeiKettavong]

Yo ive been watching you guys forever now and i also just graduated high school and now in my first semester of college. You guys are one of the reasons why Im double majoring with philosphy. Thank you guys for inspiring me.

[@WisecrackEDU]

aw wow this makes us super happy.

[@CoranceLChandler]

Yes, the Myers-Briggs test is hot garbage. The 16 personality archetypes and the cognitive functions however.. well, I've only been studying them for 3 months up to this point, but I've been getting uncannily useful and accurate results, not only in understanding my own strengths and weaknesses, but also in being able to predict and or falsify attitudes and behavioral patterns of friends, family and recently, even strangers. I'm finding it hard to argue with something that is proving so useful. I know personality science is still in its infancy and in 500 years what we have now will look like so much childish drivel, but I think we just may be on to something very interesting.

[@ArtFlunky]

I test as an INFP too, even when I try not to. And we are a lot alike. Listening to you, is like listening to a much smarter version of myself, but still very much myself.

[@dacksonflux]

A system called "Objective Personality" I think is the worst. They charge you a subscription service when you might not even get typed.

[@cannondebris]

An under discussed tinder red flag.

[@nonreductionism]

The problem is with the tests. Most people who understand Myers Brings reject them and say you need to get typed by an expert. The standard simplistic understanding of the types is not legit. To understand types you have to understand different functions and which ones are dominant in relation to eachother. Look up "4 sides of the mind". There are 4 functions in relation to eachother in all 4 sides of the mind. That's 16 factors at play in every type, not just 4. Also being a type doesn't stop one from growing or changing over time, and it's not just thought to be inherent and biological but also the result of responding to ones environment in early development. So basically this whole video is fighting a strawman that more serious people who use types would also reject.

[@affectojfgidi1246]

Agree - good comment

[@jfuebel]

0:12 hey, I am too! Not that I care

[@ryanandrews7761]

Hey so I used to be a training assistant for a consulting company that would go into businesses and teach MBTI. We would always tell people upfront the tests were never to be used for employment selection purposes (though I have heard of it happening, even though I think there are laws against it where I live). The way it was explained to me was that the categories are all just spectrums of preference. The tests asks you a bunch of questions about what you prefer, and then at the end it tells your preferences back to you. A key distinction we had to stress was that these preferences *weren't* an indicator of talent, but simply the way we generally like to operate, and how we might default under stress. The tests were supposed to be useful to help us understand something about how we operate, and how others may differ, with the goal of fostering healthier conflict resolution skills. But yeah, we'd specifically clarify that a low score in, say, extroversion did NOT mean you were bad at extroversion. I dunno, it might still all be bunk, I believed what I was told and didn't do my own research but just my own personal experience of helping to teach the material was that it was well-meaning, mildly helpful, but prone to, perhaps even doomed to, be misunderstood and misused by corporate mindsets.

[@ilovemesomme]

The philosophy personality tests are the best and most useful. Either that, or I just like being compared to Epicurus and Diogenes.

[@johnstajduhar9617]

Which existentiaist philosopher are you? Find out here!

[@miahan8988]

@@johnstajduhar9617 Existencialio Dreadis. Where do I belong? (I’m joking).

[@haldir108]

Having at the time very underdeveloped empathy and social antennas, i found that reading the descriptions for the different meyer-briggs types to be really helpful. It made it much easier to imagine other ways of thinking than my own, which up until then, i had taken for granted to be the only (or at least, the only correct) way to think. What nobler achievement is possible, than to connect with your fellow man (and woman) more? For years i've thought of them as "not true, but very useful"

[@sithisrants4154]

Hi. INTP here (lol). It's not that the personality tests are inherently dangerous. It's just that they've been taken way too seriously by corporations and people despite being simple cold-read horoscopes. They're nothing more than stereotypes, and can obviously be pretty inaccurate. Human personality is really complex and not easily summed up by a single quotient or label. At the same time, if used properly, for fun, there's really no more harm in them than any other label. Am I a man, or a trans woman in denial? Am I gay, pan, or bisexual? Am I neurotypical, or neurodivergent? The truth is, it doesn't really matter in the context of most things. These cultural indicators have practically no more of a bearing on who I am than an even more arbitrary label like capricorn or virgo.

[@PeterKnagge]

As an INFJ I agree. (That's an INFJ pun as INFJs don't like labels. Layers (that's another INFJ joke).) As a sterotypical INFJ I found it quite cathartic, as many INFJs do as being an INFJ can be quite isolating as we think against the grain of capitalist society. As long as people don't take labels too seriously I think it's fine.

[@Mortablunt]

Your answer is totally INTP.

[@SpinDuality]

As an INTP, I also take pride in my other online personality tests. Yes, I am a Ravenclaw, part of Athena's Cabin, with a heart of Perseverance, a dash of Autumn vibes, with square blue aura, and a small rat deer thing which I don't know the name of but they sound damn cool. All of these are all me and they all point out how much I spend a lot of time on the internet.

[@felix_a_fiend]

My high school made me take the test in order to help us determine our career paths. In order to pass that specific class we literally have to make a presentation about why our future depended on our mbti type. It was really weird.

[@alexast1457]

As an INFP, i have never felt so attacked yet enlightened

[@elpegaso]

Modern horoscopes. Fellow INFP here. Fun story: Years ago I was working in a store. The company wanted all of us to take a personality test. The day of the test I was feeling particularly down on myself. I answered the test, which was very heavily corporate culture warrior shaded, the way I was feeling at the time. My manager was mad at me, and told me that I had the lowest score in the store and because of that his manager wanted him to fire me. Instead he wanted me to retake it. I didn't want to get fired over a test, so I retook it, answering every question as how I thought a worker drone would, what this store wanted. I got the highest test score in the store, the boss was still mad but I got a big laugh out of it. That company is out of business now. (Kmart) Still not sure why they made us take a personality test.

[@OlWyatt]

It’s a running joke in some parts of the low supports needs autism community that all autistic people are Infp but not all Infp are autistic. I am an infp, and finally felt understood by that stupid test, then I found out I’m just autistic lol

[@TheNeo349]

wait what! seriously? I had to take MBTI during a college course and got INFP, re-took it some more times and got either INFP or INTP. and a couple of the online 'tism tests have indicated that i might have that too. you are telling me there's a correlation there.. damn, that's unexpected.

[@copperclaw3638]

Wait really? I'm autistic and I got intp on that test a few years back

[@benyijohnson7925]

19:08 I was expecting a BBL (Brazilian Butt Lift) joke there. Oh boy 😂

[@snowballeffect7812]

When I was job hunting, one of the potential employers insisted I take and report my results for an online personality test, probably the same one Michael took. I replied saying that the test was made-up nonsense and not based on science. I did not get a callback lmao. I sometimes wonder how long it took them to go bankrupt.

[@davidsykes6584]

As in INTP, I find your 'feeling' disgusting. You must grasp onto your cold unfeeling logic and never let it go. Feeling is to be controlled...just ask Spock.

[@pseudodao7040]

Is disgust a feeling?

[@User_54547]

Dude has no clue

[@americancommunist6076]

what the fuck are you

[@SpinDuality]

​@@pseudodao7040Inside Out says so, so it must be true.

[@Nic_Bloody1905]

The main issue I have is that it’s very easy to pick what you think you are or aspire to be, because you know what each answer says about you. To try and do it properly, you should have someone who knows you very well, someone who’s known you for an hour tops, and yourself do it and then average the scores. Even then, it’s dangerous to place yourself in one or even more than one category.

[@Furysonofrage]

My Myers-briggs comrade is 50 cent. We're both mother fucking P.I.M.P.s

[@diyalectic52]

It's such an INFP thing to make a video about this because we're all too individualistic and complex to fit into black and white boxes lol

[@sankarchaya]

My Aristotelian and Hegelian sympathies make it hard to complete because I don’t think reason and emotion are entirely independent and can’t complete the feeling/thinking questions. Why do I have to choose? It presupposes a hard divide. Reason and thinking can be opposed but do not need to be.

[@melusine826]

Exactly!!!

[@Alan_Duval]

And of course psychology recognises that people without the ability to engage their emotions are terrible decision makers.

[@takeiteasy3525]

This is EXACTLY the point I was trying to make when my workplace used the dove, owl, peacock and eagle personality test. They just called me an 'owl,' told me that it won't be taken seriously... then proceeded to print out what everyones results were and stick them to their desks.

[@5-Volt]

Hey also an INFP, but I actually give the 16p a bit more merit. I've taken the test 3 times in my life. Once in high school, once about 10 years ago & earlier this year. I've always gotten INFP. Maybe because I am always on the extreme poles of the catagories. The first 2 times I just read the results, said "yeah, that sounds fairly accurate" & just kinda wrote it off, but this year I started doing a deep dive into the cognitive functions & how they work. I must say, it helped me learn & figure out a lot about why I am the way I am. So while I don't think stuff like 16p should be used in a professional setting like job placement or be taken to a literal extreme, I have found a great amount of personal understanding from looking deeper into it.

[@bluester7177]

I agree it shouldn't be use for job recruitment, I am someone who always change types because I Choose the in between the 2 extremes a lot, mostly because I'm a ND person with aphantasia and no autobiographic memory and I tend to agree with both statements in a lot of questions, I also mask a lot, so everytime I take any of these tests I have all different letters, I used to consistently have the "I", but it's not consistent anymore either.

[@crazydragy4233]

You could get all that from a decently written book without having an industry that does nothing but steal money and time from vulnerable people.

[@drackesp5747]

16 personality test is the horoscope for people who think they're too good for horoscopes

[@Alanalan12297]

Bs

[@teesh871]

As an Australian introverted nurse I'm a little nervous...but seriously thats very nice of you thankyou for the compliment. But...interesting you say that it says introverts make good nurses. They do...but also they are the most likely to be exploited and have less boundaries and get eaten alive by the culture. Because we are just so 'naturally giving'. To just accept abuse as something we can take and we shouldn't fight back because that's...not in our good old introverted nursing nature. Also if you are assigned to the constant peace maker because that is just how you are and what you are good at...it burns you out. And other people with 'bold personalities' and so forth don't get to maybe...reflect and work on their own interpersonal skills...which maybe they should so they don't keep making new nurses cry. It's also a huge team effort and requires a lot of neurodiversity. It's great being caring and soulful and whatnot but sometimes...those hard ass obsessive type people are really helpful. Or the one that are anal about stuff. Or the ones that are extremely shy but extremely smart and have something else to add. This video has given me a lot to think about is all.

[@Alan_Duval]

Perfectly put.

[@leafeonfusion7792]

I only look up my personality type for fun. I just don’t feel comfortable telling anyone. That goes for my horoscope as well.

[@leon3589]

I got two words that explain your personality and life: Dialectical Materialism.

[@vincegauge3445]

i have a degree in psychology, and i chose to take a personality class at one point, and im gonna be so real with you- the “official” psychological version of these tests have basically all the same issues. i don’t think personalities were meant to be scientifically categorised. that was probably the most pointless class i’ve ever taken

[@Gibson4411]

Hi wisecrack! Huge fan for many years, which is why I am taking the time to explain why this video is dumb… and dangerous ;) out of respect. I am a doctoral candidate in Counseling Psychology and have administered multiples MMPI-2s and other assessments. I was also obsessed with Myers Briggs in high school and learned way too much about it. My bias here is that I actually have major gripes with assessment and will not be focusing on it in my career, but I do know a lot about them. 1. Mbti is indeed a flawed assessment lacking statistical rigor and reliability, which is why no researchers or legitimate psychologists use it. You are correct that it can be misused as a tool for social control. On the flip side, it can be an astoundingly effective tool for young people, especially neurodivergent young people, to understand both themselves and others better. It is a great starting point if you do not religiously follow the fabricated rules around it. 2. The MMPI-2 is one of the most statistically sound assessment instruments in existence, rivaling things like the IQ test (extremely high reliability). Some of the weirder questions about seemingly random physical synonyms are testing for symptoms for clinical scale 1 or 3, one of which is a clinical presentation where someone suppresses and denies their pathology to such a degree that it manifests in things like headaches, gastrointestinal pain, low back pain, etc. The goal of the MMPI-2 is not to tell someone their personality, but to instead assess for personality disorders (e.g., antisocial, narcissistic, borderline, etc.). Personality disorders are EXTREMELY difficult to diagnose based purely on clinical interviews (which MMPI-2s are used in conjunction with). The MMPI-2 is one of the hardest tests ever created to “fake bad” or “fake good” on due to multiple entire scales in it designed to assess for that. You bring up the fact that these can be used in things like custody battles, which is actually a completely valid purpose. If a parent has an untreated personality disorder (which are severe disorders that deeply impact parenting), that should be taken into consideration in such decisions. These tests help the children in that case, they help clients who can be deeply validated by finally receiving an accurate diagnosis and can know begin treatment, and lastly they help clinicians who can have a valuable tool to HELP in making important decisions. 3. Psychological assessment absolutely has roots in eugenics, but unfortunately, those are the roots of the entire field of western psychology. The “progressive” psychologists of their time who were some of the first people to fight for women’s rights, transformed “insane asylums” into human psychiatric centers, and supervised the first black PhD students were all into eugenics and previously phrenology. If this difficult fact makes you want to write off all psychological assessment, you would have to write off the entire field. It is difficult but try to not fall victim to presentism! Would love to answer any questions in the comments.

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Oh, and I forgot to mention, if you are looking for an actual “personality test” that measures personality traits, The Big Five or Five Factor Model is the gold standard of statistically sound personality testing in research, and is based on data, not theory. It agrees that these traits change throughout the lifetime and even by what state someone is taking the assessment in.