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[@BionicPIGtv]

I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY!!! Encanto was a decent movie yes. And so was others I mentioned. I was just saying IN COMPARISON. To the classics they just dont hold a candle. Plus 2D animation is KING. On top of that. They all suffer from the same animation AND generic storylines. Not really saying they are bad. Just saying they are great. :)

[@9DRK]

Watch Leo Lizard movie that is a good watch :)

[@robinchirps1775]

I’m with you, I didn’t really care for Encanto either!

[@emmamargaret9297]

I honestly think you are blinded by nostalgia for the classics. I really enjoyed some of the new disney releases especially ones that didn’t get much marketing, like Strange World and Turning Red to the point where I wish I saw them as kids.

[@justsomegirlwithoutamustache]

There is a lot better elements, or more enjoyable elements in the older movies Disney produced that still hold up to this day. I didn't have a problem with Turning Red (like most political commenators do) but I thought the delivery, and chatracters were insuffurable and annoying to the point where I didn't enjoy it at all (yes I know they're pre-teens). Also Disney hasn't been able to try something new from their usual movies or pay respects to the olders, so I don't think BionicPig is blinded by nostalgia because there is a lot to critisize. But different people enjoy different things so all the power to you :)@@emmamargaret9297

[@alexander1274]

I was just about to write an angry comment of you saying encanto was ok but I get you now, the classics are a lot better.

[@pastadash4684]

Animator here! They actually planned to make a movie about the origin of the song (when you wish upon a star), but higher ups chopped it up into unrecognizable pieces. Also, the art style is meant to “simulate” watercolor, and they refused to do actual 2D animation because there was a “skill issue” amongst their staff 🤦 🙄 they put way too much stock into cgi and now have barely any 2D animators anymore

[@Just_in_case_i_die..._]

Woooww that explains why every single movie from them now is CGI. After all, why bother making something of quality if they can make millions with zero effort whatsoever?

[@Aladayle]

CGI artists apparently aren't as well unionized as 2d'ers are.

[@kordeliiius9821]

Probably because animators-in-training nowadays aren’t given the time or space to train their 2D animation skills beyond the basics. Even tho many students really want to learn 2D, schools don’t offer as many courses in that discipline because 3D has become standard. and they probably don’t have time to teach themselves 2D while working on their degrees

[@pastadash4684]

@@kordeliiius9821 absolutely correct, at least from my experience.

[@Just_in_case_i_die..._]

@kordeliiius9821 so so true, it's so sad to see it

[@ireymm]

Shrek is a great example of having a fuck ton of references and still having a plot.

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

Yeah, and Shrek is essentially the anti-Disney movie. But then Comcast bought out Dreamworks.

[@razemander]

Do you know... the Muffin Man?

[@pickedceasar1216]

Same with the Puss in Boots movies though it is the same studio and universe

[@helixsol7171]

​@@razemander The Muffin Man?

[@frenchish1177]

@@helixsol7171 ThE MuFfIn MaN 😃👹

[@shaninejackman9395]

What’s disappointing asf to me is cause the CONCEPT-ART & the concept-draft for the overall story from the art-book was literally way more interesting then this. We COULD’VE gotten a emotional story with Aisha & a star-dude along with the queen & king being the main villains!! Like i just wanna know what happened for all the concept-art to be thrown away in favor of THIS.. 😭💀

[@eatatjoes6751]

*YES.*

[@BananaMike780]

thats been true of almost every disney movie in recent memory

[@zigsynx5364]

Disney just hates love and relationships apparently, so it wasn’t happening unfortunately. This is such a nothing movie. At least the Bee movie and chicken little have ironic value, but Wish made me wish I felt something while watching it.

[@LadyMajolish]

YASSS, WE LITERALLY GOT ✨ROBBED✨, Seriously Disney…

[@m1lk0meda]

Disney just oozes corporate middle management meddling now, mostly out of fear, ever since the bottom fell off of their acquisition cash cows because they squandered their potential. OG story probably tested bad or some shit, in no way does a film that look like this cost $200 million dollars without last minute large changes in story and render time. Typical romance wasn't progressive enough. A woman can't be evil unless seriously misunderstood. Do these things matter in terms of the story, of the art? Yes. But some higher up was probably just like, nah, make it work without them. Management is hired to push product, only sees people as numbers, and to make something as mass-marketing appeal as possible means a safe investment with highest returns, because everyone is included and possibly problematic elements are removed. But in trying to appeal to everyone, you appeal to no one. Imagine how beautiful the original story would have been if Disney had used their own animation technology, Deep Canvas and Meander, to seamlessly blend hand-drawn 2D and 3D together into an incredible self-referential love letter, with the romance core of the film being the way they communicate that love between dreams and people. Genius concept. This generic trash we got is so beyond disappointing.

[@tonybippitykaye]

I’m not even upset it’s a mediocre Disney movie; I expect that at this point. I’m upset because THIS was their hundred year celebration piece. THIS! This generic, corporate trash that couldn’t even hope to reach the heights of the Disney Renaissance or its inception. This isn’t even Walt rolling his his grave; it’s Bobby boy digging up Walt’s corpse, parading it through the street, yelling about how great Disney is, and throwing the body in the dumpster after he’s done while he pats himself on the back…and Walt rolling inside the dumpster.

[@smaaron_j_46]

Wouldn’t Walt be a skeleton at this point? 😂

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

This movie was supposed to be Disney's one final chance to redeem themselves, and they fucking failed miserably. I was extremely skeptical about the movie, while everyone else was hyped to see the movie itself, and it turns out... I WAS RIGHT TO BE SKEPTICAL ALL ALONG! *THIS MOVIE IS ABSOLUTE SHIT!!!* We have learned the hard way this year to NEVER expect anything good from Disney, because what that shows me and the rest of us on this pathetic planet is that Disney is a capitalistic parasite that vacuums up our own hard-earned money for their own selfish gain, in an attempt to become America's largest monopoly and the largest corporate empire in the entire world. All the magic they once had? They traded that magic in favor of profit, profit, profit. Never again will I wish upon a star, and neither should the rest of humanity. Those dreams have long since died the moment they ruined what our forefathers have once stood for. They complete shat on the legacy of all animators in this nation. And I will never forgive or forget any of this! I hope to never again be fooled by the childish hopes that once blinded me when I was younger.

[@karaoconnoraliasraidra]

That’s like what Marvel Comics did for Captain America’s 80th anniversary. They touted this miniseries called The United States of Captain America which was supposed to be a great tribute to Cap and everyone who had wielded the shield…and then they botched it royally. Not only was the story a lackluster, mopey mess that was supposed to be inspiring, but failed, but it focused more on brand new characters. See, they introduced all these cosplayers- I mean, vigilantes- who readers were supposed to elevate to a level similar to a hero who had battled evil and injustice for literal decades. There’s nothing wrong with having new characters and giving them focus in a story, but constantly thrusting new characters into the spotlight instead of the established characters when the series has been touted as honoring those established characters? No. There’s also the matter of how the writers and promoters expected us to view these newcomers. They weren’t quite supposed to be at Captain America’s level (because they were inspired by him, which actually is a nice message and tribute), but they were supposed to be viewed as near his level, even being given nicknames like “The Captain America of the Rails” or “The Captain America of Harrisburg”. Let me tell you something. On paper, the theme of “This character was inspired by a hero and became a hero” is good. In reality, however, you can’t just have a character assemble a sloppy costume and then have them go out & tackle seasoned criminals and villains. One of the characters, no lie, wielded a trash can lid as a shield. Does that sound like a character that should be elevated to the same level as The Falcon or The Winter Soldier? Someone with no experience or training is going to get badly injured or killed out in the field. In fact, there was a famous story in which an eager and skilled young man named Roscoe tried to fill in for Captain America and ended up being killed by The Red Skull his first night. I get the message of “Anyone can be a hero if their heart is in the right place!” but noble ideals and a thrown-together outfit simply aren’t enough.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

@@karaoconnoraliasraidra happy anniversary, give me money

[@brittanywilliams2367]

I’ll bet they waited till the last damn minute to make this movie!!! A Century celebration that the entire planet was looking forward too and they destroyed what could’ve been a massive monument to Disney 2D animation for this.

[@ZggFghvgGrffht]

Imagine getting outperformed by Adam Sandler.

[@tumultuousv]

Not surprising

[@JosephPao]

It was bound to happen lol

[@carrotdtop_1]

I mean not surprising the man is like a wild card

[@giga_chad9]

@@carrotdtop_1man chooses to either make the worst shit ever, or some of the best shit ever, there’s no telling with him and I love that

[@mysmirandam.6618]

​@usanatv2007sentertainmentinc. His movies always been good. Look at click

[@haillucipurr2962]

In Netflix's 'Klaus' they made a spectacular job with the animation (great story too). They pushed the limitations of traditional animation. The creators decided to make the film in 2D, but they also wanted to advance the look, so they developed a new software that adds details like lighting and texture to the characters that make them appear 3D. This style would have been perfect for 'Wish', but Disney is not a pioneer anymore, and even a better animation could not save this garbage.

[@greenstarlover1]

That's the problem - Disney is not the industry innovator anymore. Heck, literally ANY OTHER STUDIO is by that point.

[@sparrowskeleton1831]

The irony in Klaus being more innovative than modern Disney movies is that the movie was written and directed by a former Disney concept artist. Sergio Pablos worked on some of Disney’s Renaissance Era and early 2000s films (Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules, Tarzan, and Treasure Planet.) I love Klaus and I hope we see many more 2D movies from SPA Studios.

[@wil.d_sage]

There is a tik tok from an animator (and former Disney animator) that said Disney physically can’t make 2D anymore because they don’t have any of the tech or the know how anymore.

[@sparrowskeleton1831]

@@wil.d_sage that’s so wild because Princess and the Frog is almost 15 years old. Yes, it’s an old movie but it’s not like 50 years have passed.

[@cantpopdismolly]

@@wil.d_sageso I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but… if they REALLY cared enough, they totally COULD do a 2D animated movie! If other studios could do it (hell, even Don Bluth is teaching future animators), they very well could too! But hey, it seems like Disney cares more about money than the craft of [hand-drawn] animation at this point 😕

[@eatatjoes6751]

It was either written by humans and then strangled by executives, or the human written stuff was fed into an A.I.

[@luvamiart8567]

Funny how the results of those two possibilities usually merge perfectly.

[@eatatjoes6751]

@@luvamiart8567 Yep.

[@Noelle_Holiday]

@@eatatjoes6751 How about both?

[@hashtagcritical8688]

From what I heard, there was a whole ton of corporate meddling behind the scenes. It got to the point where Disney animators and screenwriters said that the movie is nothing more than an empty shell of what it once was.

[@liquidKi]

@@hashtagcritical8688 Imagine hiring experts, professionals, masters of their craft and then telling them how to do their job. The problem arises when managers think that because they have the authority that they also have the talent.

[@adelcipher5617]

I will never forget the fact that Wish cost more than both Spider-verse movies together and this is what we got....like I fully support Sony paying more to their people (because by god do they deserve it) but the comparison right now is honestly hilarious Almost forgot the fact that this got nominated over TMNT and Nimona is insulting

[@smaaron_j_46]

Fuckin’ award shows, man.. there’s always gotta be that one corporate nomination even if most people hate it. Disney is to the Oscars what DJ Khalid is to the Grammys.

[@marhawkman303]

I genuinely think most of the massive Hollywood budgets are functionally just embezzlement.

[@fawnieee]

​@@marhawkman303 Pretty sure the illumination (minions etc) studio does just that.

[@PsychoDiesel48]

Nimona deserved so much better . . . .

[@namkia205]

Nimona was genius Wish is just sad

[@66Roses]

When Asha first meets Magnifico I thought, "Huh, an actual nuanced conflict?" Because both of them have a point. A king can't give _everyone_ what they want, because a lot of people don't think about the consequences. At the same time, robbing them of the opportunity to chase those dreams isn't a good solution. I thought the movie would have an escalating conflict between two principled characters who by the end would realize their flaws and learn to work together. After all, both want what's best for their kingdom. But no, immediately both of them veer off the tracks of their motivation, and the resolution feels hollow as a result. So disappointing.

[@Nonamearisto]

A recent Dreamworks movie might have been that intelligent.

[@rcarfang2]

@@Nonamearistowhat movie? Puss in Boots the Last Wish?

[@Nonamearisto]

@@rcarfang2 As an example of a smart movie from DreamWorks, yes.

[@leviticusprime4904]

Man Disney couldn’t even make an evil for the sake of being evil villain right.

[@mistydolphin2524]

Now you see, that would've required actual thought and good story telling. And spoiler alert! Disney is severely lacking in both. They seem to think those things are racist/sexist/misogynist/gynecologist.

[@flarestriker2005]

Puss In Boots The Last Wish makes more sense than Disney's Wish.

[@ukeleleguitar2087]

Puss in boots is a masterpiece, it’s not even a competition

[@ungabunga5789]

Puss In Boots: Last Wish is leagues above Wish, they shouldn't even be compared lol

[@Muna-Jlore0997]

💯💯there are good messages in PiB the last wish. In WISH… I’m not sure what was the message on that.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

It's because wishes are stupid. Ever thought of that?

[@vitoriangamer7807]

That’s not a fair comparison, The last wish is better than Disney by about 50 parallel multiverses

[@LabMatt]

They should have made them father and daughter. Him just trusting her with sensitive information would have made a lot more sense then.

[@TVDandTrueBlood]

Yesssssss!

[@TVDandTrueBlood]

You're so smart tbh. Smarter than Disney...

[@xadalau9758]

Also thought about that, that then she would be the kingdom's heir and be trained in magic. Besides, Disney then would be able to market Asha as a new princess in their line.

[@copingflower1909]

From the trailers I honestly thought thats where they were going, but no just some odd 1 off of her being an apprentice or some shit to very half hazardly have him reveal the main driving force for the plot

[@fandemusique4693]

IMO she should have either been his blood daughter or adopted one, Asha being forced to defy her own father, and amaya would have a good reason to chose her over magnifico. It also would make Asha less selfish, because in the movie, she get pissed off about not getting a wish despite just having been recruited, which not only show how she doesn't care for how important her position is, but that d he doesn't intend to work at all for it and is entitled as fuck.

[@trinaq]

"I let you live here for free, and I don't even charge you rent." They seriously couldn't think of better lyrics for their villain song?! Also, Chris Pine was the best part of the movie, he should really be in more musicals.

[@obi_oma]

He did such a good job with such a subpar character. Who knew he could sing

[@cr4zysh4dez]

@@obi_omahe started in Into The Woods, a film adaptation of a stage musical, as one of the “Prince Charming” characters. He’s hilarious - and talented - in that movie!! I recommend it for some singing, melodramatic Chris Pine.

[@obi_oma]

@@cr4zysh4dez | oh my gosh I totally forgot he was in that, I love into the woods :))

[@gdplayer8768]

Not to mention, the chorus has such *AMAZING* wordplay And this is the thanks I get This is the thanks I get And this is the thanks I get And this is the thanks I get

[@Kelsey1987]

Well, what do you expect when you hire songwriters who only write top 100 pop songs

[@aquatiger8]

you know what was a good movie with pretty similar theming, an actually good storyline, catchy music and amazing art? The Princess and the Frog

[@bubblegumBri]

Yeah it had the cute call back to the "wishing on a star" song and I liked the message that you can have hope but that you actually have to work for your dreams to come true 😊

[@brieaunnasworld6609]

YASSSSSS

[@tiny_m0w]

YES! such an amazing movie, too damn good. i’m grateful we at least have some gems like that to help make up for the garbage they like to spew.

[@jimsmarma2890]

Exactly.

[@Pokeninja7]

Asha feels more like a villain than King Magnifico. He was never revealed to be some selfish asshole for a while, while Asha says she cares about the kingdom and wants everyones wishes to come true. She is quite literally going against "Careful what you wish for". But nah they just forced HIM to be a villain.

[@darianstarfrog]

Exactly

[@lou35500]

Guessed she never heared of the monkey paw

[@Pokeninja7]

@@lou35500 fr

[@Selfdestructingwii]

They should've made Asha a twist villain, or at least anti-villain. I know it's overdone, but having that for the protagonist would make things better.

[@marhawkman303]

@@Selfdestructingwii OR, having Asha go through the journey of trying to do things "right" then realizing Magnifico WAS right all along and she didn't know what she was doing. It's similar to the old "Sorceror's apprentice" film. You have a neophyte trying to wield great power, and realizing he has no idea how to control it.... Fun fact: we know that one was a hero because... it was Mickey. It's also why in Kingdom Hearts Mickey is a magic user.

[@taluca8474]

This is sort of a Frozen situation, when you look at the history in the making of Frozen they originally were gonna have Elsa be a villain until they made Let It Go. From what I hear, Magnifico was supposed to have a wife and they’d be the first evil couple in Disney history. And also that the Star would turn out into a handsome guy with magical powers of shapeshifting. The kind of concepts that were better than the final results

[@TheYoungGeninSasuke]

Yeah but Frozen was successful with the things it changed and Wish was not.

[@bigbangpegasusmaster]

I'm 90% convinced Cassandra from the Tangled series borrowed Frozen's scrapped ideas (not something that has been confirmed or even rumoured, just a hunch)

[@dragonrider7101]

@@bigbangpegasusmaster Tangled released 2010, Frozen came out 2013 and started production in 2011.

[@PhoenixRising87]

@@TheYoungGeninSasuke Frozen is mediocre; making Elsa villain would have made it better, because a) it's understandable that Elsa would be angry and bitter about being made to feel like a monster, and b) Idina Menzel would have made a deliciously hammy villain.

[@TheYoungGeninSasuke]

@@PhoenixRising87 It's still successful though was my point Disney tried to do the same thing again.

[@KingOfGaymes]

I’ll never forgive them for not giving us the Royal villain couple Magnifico was hot af and deserved better

[@coopigeon619]

I second this comment...also love your pfp and Username. :D

[@cr4zysh4dez]

A villain couple would have been EPIC. Isnt that what Disney fans have been drawing & writing since the 90s? This was a prime opportunity to “WOW” on their centennial; and they dropped every single ball. So many amazing Disney fans I know have written better fanfiction than whatever this movie was. Theres so much passion, whimsy, heart, and dedication that Disney inspires in creators & consumers alike; it’s heartbreaking (and dare I say disrespectful) when the company itself can’t care (and love) its creations the way we do…

[@t1mburt0nsdandruff]

Tbf, he kinda was…..

[@ianorr1388]

Ironic that the movie named "Wish" looks like you'd get it from Wish

[@WobblesandBean]

Underrated comment

[@allexmussen9107]

The original concepts were so cool too and we were left with this. We could have like the first dark villain couple, a cool star boy that was mute and a love intrest. The idea of wishing on a star would fit the disney magic theme if they just actually did it good. Compared to any of the movies that have come out this year, this one has to be the one that dropped the weakest ball the furthest.

[@kaitlinbilous4605]

Wishing on a star was already done in 1940 (Pinocchio)

[@allexmussen9107]

@@kaitlinbilous4605 oh you're right! I completely forgot about Pinocchio xD

[@SoelSofiaEloise]

Not to mention a potential love of Asha's life, the star boy, would be the greatest wish Asha could have, I mean wouldn't any of you want to be deeply in love with someone to spend the rest of your life with? Maybe not all, but I can't be the only one.

[@allexmussen9107]

@@SoelSofiaEloise Forever mourning the possibility of her being with a silly star god 😭 it would've been so cool. And would be such good rep if they kept him being mute in too

[@waytoohypernova]

Lovey Star boy is mute is actually a genuinely adorable reference to tinkerbell and ill die on that hill

[@dragonlime622]

you know when people show off test footage of a cgi animated movie in the behind-the-scenes sections of dvds and the announcer is like "here we see the development shots of what the movie will look like"? yeah thats this entire movie

[@crazycreaturestudios]

Watching this video I literally thought the shots he was using was unfinished animation until about halfway through

[@randomperson093]

The night time has a somewhat better animation but the the day time feels so unpolished,as if the lighting hasn't been propebly implemented

[@cleverreference1700]

I think the villain would have been more intimidating if he could control the wishes, like alter what people want so that it suits him. Say he wants them to attack the main character, and the whole town becomes against her because they're basically possessed.

[@zachnewby4739]

Now that's a good idea!

[@Musegrl12]

I swear, these days I'm mainly excited for Disney movies just because of how it looks, not because of the story. It's kind of heart-breaking... I mean, one of my favourite Disney movies is Coco because of how much heart and soul is in it! But these days it's too much of an excuse to make money instead of a good story.

[@Sleepiest_OwO]

That wasn’t even Disney, it was Pixar 😭

[@jesush.christ8261]

​@@Sleepiest_OwOwho owns them

[@Musegrl12]

I was including Pixar since Disney is usually the one releasing them, so the criticism falls to them too. Though I also unintentionally just proved my point by getting them mixed up oops@@Sleepiest_OwO

[@xToxic22]

The worst part is they aren’t even making profit from a lot of their recent movies, so how can we say it’s for money either :(

[@aitorleal4676]

honestly after Coco it all went doenhill for Disney and Pixar lol

[@demontamerbf18]

The fact Pig kept pronouncing Magnifico wrong made this video so damn funny to me.

[@egg_bun_]

Omg yes

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

*HE DOESN'T DESERVE TO HAVE HIS NAME PRONOUNCED CORRECTLY, YOU QUIXOTIC DUCKLING.*

[@ric4455.]

magnafeekoh

[@demontamerbf18]

@@ric4455.Lol

[@sassafrasproductions1762]

I don’t get why they didn’t just make a Mickey Mouse movie to celebrate 100 years

[@demomanchaos]

He isn't "diverse" enough.

[@davidcardozo290]

​@@demomanchaos he's a mouse

[@LeeONardo]

Fantasia 100 - a selection of music matched up with all new animations based on the entire history of Disney, taking the audience through a long selection of Disney scenes and characters with them even blending together and having characters from different films interact. Absolutely no politics, just a celebration of music and art.

[@dhgmrz17]

@@LeeONardo The problem I think now is that Disney has garnered an audience of family, children movies now. While adult and possibly teens would appreciate Fantasia, most children would probably get bored, and I don't know if they could draw that audience back in quick enough to give Fantasia a chance. Fantasia 2000 also didn't do great when it was released either and with their audience for a movie like that smaller than ever, I can't imagine that would have done that great in terms of making money. Disney no longer cares about the art, they just want the money.

[@Xamry]

Mickey is dead at this point 😂😂 But good point! They never put out Mickey content

[@avalennear5173]

It seems like the writers were switched out halfway through the movie cause Magnificos personality does a dramatic shift from being tragic and sympathetic to suddenly being a power-hungry villain with no redeeming qualities. Like the writers forgot what kind of villain they were writing and tried shoehorning in a purely evil villain

[@annabellereacts5126]

After listening to the first few lines of Wish's 'Villain Song' I had to go listen to Hellfire just to remind myself what a proper villain song is.

[@flareistan_films8819]

Fr. They could have at least gave him a second song that screams “I’m the villain and this is my plan”

[@HumeAnn]

It's closer to a hero song than the actual hero song

[@torytellstales]

Boi What's "Plan Z" song based on Plankton from Spongebob had more spirit and passion put into it then Magnifico's song was for "Wish".

[@just_an_internet_explorer8038]

That’s kind of crazy. Imagine leaving the theater so disappointed, that you believe that the only possible way the film could’ve turned out like this was due to AI writing it.

[@alchemiccolored1907]

i personally think Luca was a great movie. most stylized out of the recent disney movies, great characters, good story.

[@lisaswayne8241]

Encanto was really good

[@flarestriker2005]

Luca is just underrated ngl. Gonna watch it again since its been two years(Watched it twice during the summer break of 2021).

[@FifingFossil]

Luca was like good icecream, sweet, little treat. This movie is great as relax, uncomplicated story, without any big stake or danger.

[@Just_in_case_i_die..._]

I actually really loved Onward. It was a fantastic film about grief and family, it was honestly really sweet and the ending was perfect. I never saw Luca but a lot of people say it's good too!

[@Madamoizillion]

I've been really disappointed about nearly all modern Disney productions, but Luca, which may be my favorite Disney film, feels a bit like Disney does Studio Ghibli and I love that.

[@MillyKKitty]

I wish Nimona, Suzume or Boy & The Heron could have gotten an Award, instead of Wish... Nimona went with the cellshaded look too, and probably was going to be more detailed with it, if it wasn't for the shut down of Blue Sky, but, nevertheless, Annapurna still made it look good for what they acquired.

[@commandershepard9920]

Eh, I agree on Nimona and Suzume - both excellent films. I hated the Boy and The Heron and couldn't wait for it to end.

[@MillyKKitty]

@@commandershepard9920 Fair. I havent seen the 2 anime movies yet, but I do respect the effort that went into them

[@commandershepard9920]

@@MillyKKitty Yeah, was just speaking for myself. To be fair, I'm not a fan of Gibli films in general, I haven't liked any of them I've seen. Doesn't make them bad, just not for me.

[@definitelynotapervert5602]

The movie already pulled off the cel-shaded look beautifully. It's not like it needed more detail anyway.

[@justyour_average_lifelover]

So you’re telling me that Nimona, a cute movie with an adorable love trope and a great lesson, didn’t get an award but Wish, aka the ChatGPT MEGAFLOP with horrible songwriting, did? Jeez. I get that Disney is a huge company, but quality over quantity (and Wish didn’t even make that much at the box office 💀 yet another reason to choose Nimona 🤦🏼‍♀️) (I’m only comparing the movies you mentioned that I watched; I have not seen Suzume or Boy and The Heron yet) That being said, I do need to watch Suzume it has been on my watchlist for quite some time! :) Where can I watch Suzume and Boy and the Heron?

[@MissJasmine305]

About the Magnifico spilling his guts to Asha about the wishes- thing: Why not have him reveal the secret to her, and when she reacts how she does in the film, he just goes "Oh... I was hoping you wouldn't react like all the others." Then he snaps his fingers, she falls through a trap door that has a portal at the bottom, said portal transports her far from the kingdom and in the middle of a forrest. Asha then has to make her way back to the kingdom. Night falls she wishes on a star, said star becomes the Star Boy from the og concept art and he wants to help her. "All the others," btw refers to the other interviewees before Asha that reacted like her. Maybe Asha & Star Boy pick them up on their journey home. Maybe it's difficult getting into the kingdom cuz of a magical barrier so all the would-be apprentices have to use their combined magic to break through? Idk man I'm just spitballing here.

[@coopigeon619]

Honestly this sounds awesome. 😳

[@torytellstales]

When I read the line "Well....I was hoping you wouldn't react like all the others...." I felt more threatened from that line than anything Magnifico did in the movie 😂😂😂😂 This line is perfect and menacing coming from a villain because it basically communicates to us the audience that this main character we're following is not going to be given any shortcuts and is mortal like the rest of us

[@varying-quality-creations]

Honestly that sounds like a good movie. And maybe "the others" in question could be Asha's friend group from the movie. Only here since we're meeting them 1-2 at a time they each have some screen time to develop a defining character trait and have some fun interactions with the main group.

[@QueamQuackers]

Imagine if they actually had more drastic consequences for having their wishes crushed. Maybe something akin to depression? Maybe make her grandpa suffer from such an issue as a motivation for her to seek the king’s favour? Or for the wishes to be granted, other wishes must be crushed in turn to fuel the granting? Honestly a part of me wants to try writing my own version but I’m not sure if Asha will even remain Asha if I do, or if it will even turn out decent.

[@zoeb3573]

The others could have been her seven friends. Then they'd have an actual reason to be there.

[@LucreciaCrescentIsBestGirl]

I think that the story could have been better if the main character succeeded in getting everyone’s wishes granted and chases out the king. But things start to go wrong, because many of the wishes either had bad consequences or were straight up harmful. The hero then has to find the king, and the two un-make the wishes. He then makes her an apprentice and they live happily ever after and whatever.

[@zoeb3573]

He learns he can't keep wishes away from everyone and she learns she can't grant every wish because they're not all good for everyone. They come to a compromise which would be very mature and a good lesson for children. But nope.

[@LucreciaCrescentIsBestGirl]

@@zoeb3573 That’s a much better lesson for the movie to have.

[@crfstewarje]

I forgot that Strange World was even a thing. That's really telling about Disney's lack of advertising.

[@calamity7068]

in my opinion Encanto was the last piece of media Disney released that felt like it had soul, it felt like it was trying to do too much at times but it was charming, fun, had good songs, a good message and likeable characters, I personally really love it but I can understand why some think It's generic because the story is pretty straightforward

[@definitelynotapervert5602]

All Disney movies have a straightforward story. That's a stupid complaint to raise about something being "generic".

[@MichiElleR]

I was hoping instead of a "he didn't get his wish" it was a "he did get his wish but it went horribly wrong". And like the idea that everyone's wish being granted would be bad made me think of Bruce Almighty and how he granted everyone's wish and it became anarchy. And like you had hundreds of people all winning the lottery, so it ended up being like a tiny prize. And like the dad wanting to be a musician, but we don't see him ever really actually doing anything to be one. So it could have people putting in zero effort into things as they rely on wishes to make things happen. But then since they didn't actually learn it, they can't teach anyone else so skills disappear unless they're specifically wished for. I don't know. I feel like it would have been an interesting angle to go with it. Like that line from R&H's Cinderella, "the trouble with most people is they sit around wishing for something to happen instead of just doing something about it."

[@usagirocks]

princess and the frog already was a take on 'wish upon a star'. Tatiana worked hard because she knew that just 'wishing' something would happen wouldnt make it happen. Was a pretty good message about working toward your dreams but still enjoying the journey to get there and not burning out.

[@JamSome]

If Disney used AI to make the intro of their hit series Loki. It is not surprising that they would use AI to write a whole movie script.

[@dragonrider7101]

Could you provide a source? I looked it up but can't find anything about Loki's intro being written by AI. I saw a debunked claim about some Loki promo art using AI, and the show 'Secret Invasion' being AI written, but that was all.

[@JamSome]

@@dragonrider7101 Sorry I meant Secret Invasion intro. Disney has not really debunked statements that they haven't used AI for Loki due to them getting a lot of backlash from them using AI in Secret Invasion but if we put two and two together if they're so willing to use AI in one show what is stopping them from using AI in another show. This is the same Disney we're talking about that would willingly use AI and its technology during a writers strike. Just think about that for a second you're fighting for fair pay and rights at your job and then your company just said "hey fuck you we can use technology to replace you". This is also the same Disney in 1940s when several major animators went on strike felt no sympathy for them.

[@dragonrider7101]

@@JamSome I agree. AI can be fun to play around with just for fun, but using AI to take creative work away from people is wrong, and Disney would definitelypull that crap. I just like having sources on things cause misinformation is big bad doodoo.

[@t1mburt0nsdandruff]

Kinda funny how the show is named Loki, yet he’s shoved to the side by his girl version of him, who’s also his love interest. Honestly, I just don’t see Loki as someone who’s interested in romance, I just see him as a mischievous god who just takes sides based on which one suits his interest. That’s what the show should’ve been about. (Sorry for the Loki rant. Tom Hiddleston deserved better)

@@t1mburt0nsdandruff Have you seen Season 2? Sylvie barely shows up and they completely forget she was supposed to be a love interest. I actually liked her character in Season 1, so for me it was a disappointing development, but maybe you'll like it.

[@CKLatoza]

And to think that this got a nomination for Best Animated Feature Film from the Annual Golden Globe Awards smh 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@everegenx]

Same corporations rooting for their own parade

[@sparrowskeleton1831]

It’s so sad because so many other films deserve that nomination more like ‘Across the Spiderverse’ and ‘The Boy and the Heron’

[@fodkfkdkfkfkfjfjfj]

WHAT

[@eye_parasite]

I smell some blackmailing

[@bigbangpegasusmaster]

​@@sparrowskeleton1831 Both got nominated too, thankfully. Or am I getting the awards ceremony mixed up

[@edgydreamy681]

What could’ve made this movie better is if they kept the concept of the star being a shapeshifter giving us a Star Boy and kept the Queen as being evil as well giving us an evil couple

[@Rainygirl3100]

The Princess and the Frog, Disney's last 2D animated princess movie from 2009, handled the wishing upon a star theme better than Disney's Grand 100 film... It's just sad

[@lunaderacine]

I really think they did use AI for this movie. 😂 I asked ChatGPT: "Please come up with a disney style movie plot surrounding a wishing star and the film revolves around granting wishes. The villain is a sorcerer and can also grant wishes." That's the plot that I gathered from this film. ChatGPT replies: "In the kingdom of Lumina, nestled under a sparkling night sky, a fabled wishing star named Stella radiates with the power to grant wishes. The kingdom's peace relies on the harmony between Stella's wishes and the guidance of the Guardian of Dreams, an ancient sorceress who ensures the wishes are granted responsibly. Enter Luna, an adventurous young dreamer who stumbles upon Stella's existence. Luna's heartfelt wish for adventure accidentally awakens a dormant power within Stella, causing an imbalance in wish-granting magic. Sensing the disturbance, the conniving sorcerer Zephyr, once banished for abusing magic, returns, wielding his dark magic that allows him to grant wishes but at a dangerous cost. As wishes begin to go awry, the kingdom falls into chaos. Luna, driven by her desire to fix her mistake, teams up with Sky, a skilled but skeptical guardian-in-training. Together, they embark on a quest to restore balance to Stella's magic before Zephyr harnesses its power for his nefarious desires. Their journey takes them through enchanted forests, across perilous mountains, and into the heart of ancient ruins, where they encounter colorful characters like a mischievous wish-granting pixie and a talking celestial dragon who guides them. Throughout their adventure, Luna learns the true responsibility of making wishes, discovering that the most important desires come from within. Sky, initially reluctant to trust in the power of wishes, learns to embrace the magic when he sees its genuine impact on people's lives. As the final showdown approaches, Luna and Sky confront Zephyr in a breathtaking battle of magic and willpower. Through determination and selflessness, Luna taps into the purest form of Stella's magic, countering Zephyr's dark wishes and restoring harmony to Lumina. In the end, Luna becomes the new Guardian of Dreams, entrusted with ensuring the balance of wish-granting magic. With a newfound understanding of the power of wishes, Luna helps the kingdom fulfill its dreams, teaching everyone the importance of using wishes wisely and from the heart. And amidst the starry night, Lumina thrives once more, embracing the magic of Stella's wishes in harmony and joy." Disney made a few adjustments but this is the same plot LOL

[@Coolguysup]

Nah, that’s a way better plot.

[@coopigeon619]

Not gonna lie...the adventure aspect of this sounds so amazing... Also this outline is better than the actual movie we got. *coughWISHcough*

[@ArturGlass.C]

This is such Disney meets YA fantasy vibes.

[@Kelsey1987]

Even AI can write a more interesting story 💀

[@namkia205]

Don't do AI like that this is much better than whatever Disney came up with

[@pyraffin]

"They put in so many references that they forgot to put in a movie" Couldn't have been worded better

[@DPWFG]

Man... Beating the bad guy with the *power of friendship* would have been a better ending.

[@eila2635]

Last I heard, they were planning on doing their own distinct 3D characters on 2D settings But then they found out that was actually really hard, and Disney isn't a huge fan of risks

[@nolanschotanus2769]

They could've just made Once Upon a Studio a full movie and made that the 100 anniversary celebration.

[@Volumixen]

The plot about taking the dreams so no one has to feel the pain of having an unobtainable dream, reminds me of the book "The Giver'.

[@volatilisporcus3707]

I WISH Disney hasn't gotten so bad.

[@flarestriker2005]

Disney really fell off in 2019. The last two bangers I remember were Wreck It Ralph and Zootopia.

[@arielperez3613]

@@flarestriker20052019 was also the fall of marvel 😢

[@2hark2ona2elly]

@@flarestriker2005encanto and Luca are pretty good imo

[@richardyrat9487]

Disney should make Asha's wish granted by King Magnifico originally, then she slowly finds out the true nature of the wish system(placed by the king), and her wish screws up everything she's trying to fix in the movie(and makes the situation messier). Just so the quote "Be careful what you wish for" will actually make sense. And the relevance for star in the movie could increase since its probably Asha's last resort to fixing the main problem in the movie plot

[@Markunator]

I thought _Encanto_ was very good, actually.

[@Markunator]

@@KingMagnificoWish Probably Mirabel, I guess.

[@theworstspeedrunner]

For the animation i feel like at first the people were like "yeah lets make something stylized for this" but Disney kept doing disney to them and they decided it was not at all worth the pay or effort to try for a movie that they could feel disney squeeze any heart out of. Like with the main villain feeling like at forst they wanted to write him to have acual motivation but then nvm. That part though does make me feel like they had an ai as one of the writers and it just went from giving the motive to making him evil

[@piss7610]

omg your pfp, i remember that game. I forgot what its called. It was about the trans girl going to a hotspring with her cis friends right?

[@theworstspeedrunner]

@@piss7610 yeah it got a full release called a year of springs now though so it's got a bit more to it

[@topaz7462]

Its sad this is what Disney is now, especially compared to the movies that came before that are classic. But, at the same time it makes sense, this movie represents Modern Disney all too well.

[@smaaron_j_46]

Speaking of which, Charlie (Penguinz0) also pointed out an interesting fan theory that the kingdom are us fans and the king is Disney themselves refusing to give our wishes. It’s allegories like this that kind of make me appreciate some bad media.

[@topaz7462]

@@smaaron_j_46 that's.. Way too smart to be true.. But it's an interesting idea

[@tjenadonn6158]

​@@smaaron_j_46 A feature length Freudian slip.

[@emmikate]

I really feel like Encanto means a lot more to people who come from families that are structured very similarly. As someone who comes from an Italian family where you don't talk about mental health despite how traumatized the family is It was nice to see it portrayed on screen. Yes I understand in comparison to past movies that might not seem like a lot to some but in the realm of trauma being actually properly shown It was such a leap that I would argue It was monumental. A story based around family trauma is just as important a story as a Dad crossing the ocean to find his missing son.

[@calebwashere]

I don't know if the plot of Wish was made with AI or ChatGPT, but at this point, it might as well have been that way.

[@scaredycat3146]

Considering the credited author did Frozen 2 as well, which was honestly also terrible, there might be no AI involved. They might just suck. Which I'm not sure is better or worse.

[@ellentaylor6883]

She also wrote the 1st one which I think is overrated. The story felt like a sloppy first draft.

[@ChristianFrates1997]

@@ellentaylor6883What if I told you that Elsa was originally the villain?

[@mr.x2567]

I think the quality of humanity in general has gotten worse

[@gemstone108]

@@mr.x2567That statement was really uncalled for. These are just movies. If humanity is doing anything wrong, look at the problems going on in the real world right now and maybe look into ways to help ie: volunteering, protesting, mutual aid, etc!

[@easolinas1233]

@@gemstone108 He seems to have hit a nerve.

[@TaBunnie]

This movie feels more in tuned with celebrating Disney's corporate side than anything else

[@dazuru6407]

Honestly I would've been fine with King Magnifico having a superficial "big bad guy'' reason for being the villain! We don't always need a bad guy to have trauma or a tragic backstory. The classic Disney movies have shown us this! I think I would've preferred that over anything honestly. It's fine to use the Disney classic tropes, especially in the 100th anniversary movie?? I want over-the-top villains again, I want them to be unashamedly bad. It's fun that way! But they do need some kind of motive that is present throughout the film. King Magnifico is shown too much as a good king, a king just doing what's right for the kingdom, only to then have the quickest switch up that was barely explored because of evil book. There is nothing there. Just blandness, which is truly a shame. There could've been something great if they just stuck to the original concepts.

[@aster7654]

About the animators' time constraints, I heard rumours that the movie was animated in 4 months, which is absolutely insane. I mean sure, not everyone is like Miyazaki taking months to animate a scene, but 4 months for a whole movie, as important as a 100th anniversary no less, is just madness

[@tannerbruning868]

Btw is it me or does it seem like this movie was trying to mimic nimona’s art style? Like, nimona made this style look so much better lol

[@rapidcougar3785]

The animation doesn't look finished like its something I'd expect from a tiktok

[@haleythecross-eyedtatterto8461]

Dawg people on tiktok are better then wish,

[@deathshop2172]

The king seemed to me from the trailers to really be a very interesting villain. but after it released, and I saw some clips, I honestly thought he really lacked the presence that he needed to "pop" as it were.

[@eleniel917]

All their marketing seemed to be "LOOK! THE MAIN CHARACTER IS BLACK!" And I knew nothing else about it. I guess that's why... They didn't need a story , they needed a black character. Like Tiana never existed

[@HumeAnn]

"LOOK! MAIN CHARACTER IS BLACK AND OR ASIAN!" "LOOK! WHITE MAN BAD! WHITE WOMAN STUPID! MAN OF COLOR GOOD! WOMAN OF COLOR STRONG!" "LOOK! SOMEONE IS LGBTQ+" "**LOOK! QUIRKY!! MILLENNIAL HUMOR!**" that's basically what almost all movies have been. It's not diversity or presentation anymore, it's just...really bad marketing and even objectifying at times.

[@travin8987]

Ironically, Wish probably couldn't be a better representation of what Disney has become.

[@ryanellin469]

Is it just me or does this look like it’s animated like those early 2000 Barbie movies?

[@namyr26]

I agree that the villain wasn’t very great, but your complaints about his motivation and what could have worked was explained in the movie’s opening narration. It was pretty much exactly what you were suggesting would have been a good background: His home and family was destroyed by evil robbers or something and he escaped to the island, learns magic and becomes a sorcerer, establishes the kingdom and takes it upon himself to protect people’s wishes with his magic so that his people don’t suffer like he did.

[@-VoDkAsVengeance-]

In my opinion, Luca was the closest we got to a "classic" Disney film this year. It was able to use both childlike wonder and naivete alongside deep, emotional, and distressing beats to craft an engaging plotline. There was a villain who was a villain from the moment he's introduced because he's just an asshole and not because of some "twist" that endears us toward him. There was a "happily ever after" goal. There was even a reference to a strained/distant parental relationship, which is pretty in line with every Disney character either having a dead mom or completely unseen and unmentioned [though never implied to be dead, making for seemingly absent] parents. It comes down to things as small as the fact that the visuals were vibrant, which seems to be missing from recent Disney films. Meanwhile, Wish gives the same energy as those cheap Disney-wannabe movies made in the 2000s & 2010s. The ones with Barbie level graphics quality.

[@marilucs]

You wanna know how to fix this movie? Simple: - make the star a shappeshifter boy and Asha's love interest (like it was in the concep art that they threw away), I know some people dont like it but Disney became what they are by writing romances in their stories; - make the goat shut up and give him a decent dynamic with Asha, they barely interact as friends in the movie; - make the king AND queen the villains (again, like in the concept art) so we can have our first disney evil couple, with an evil bombastic and dramatic duet; - Asha's already Magnifico apprentice at the start of the movie, so they already have a bond and this bond can be shaken when she learns the truth. This way the king would also feel betrayed by her; - Better yet make Asha's late father and Magnifico best friends or, even better, BROTHERS. Now they have a bigger connection. And hey, this way Asha can actually become a princess/queen by the end of the movie when the evil king and queen are defeated, since she's their niece This movie idea could have worked if they just reworked the script a bit

[@dovahkiin6488]

Oml the concept sounds way better than the wntire movie! Why did they scrap all that good stuff away. And we were robbed of a villain couple smh

[@GabrielsLogic]

Wow this is actually great

[@Kelsey1987]

I read somewhere online that originally Asha was going to be King magnifico‘s daughter, which would be extremely interesting, because then she would have to discover that her parents are not who she thought they were. But having Asha being the kings, niece would be really interesting, too, because then, technically, she would become royalty/a princess. The next thing that I would change is obviously change the art style of the movie. I think I would definitely make the movie 2d animated. I would hire Alan menkan to do the music and score. If you don’t know who he is, Alan Menken wrote the music for the little mermaid, Aladdin, etc..

[@TECfan1]

People keep saying to add things from the original concepts but I don't see how any of those things would fix the story of this movie. Having Asha fall in love with the star would just make it more convoluted and unnecessary. The star was only there to help her achieve her goal and then he left at the end once that was achieved.

[@Kaimanshead]

I love how trolls 3 is getting better reception than wish.

[@owenbaldwin2460]

As a non writer an idea I came up with on the spot for why the king doesn't grant the wishes is because otherwise everyone would become spoilt and in a kingdom where anyone can do/be/have whatever they whenever they want nothing has meaning (when everyone is special nobody is special type of thing).

[@Arctic_Jokester]

I actually really liked Luca and thought it’s the best thing they’ve made in a long time

[@smaaron_j_46]

I liked Luca too. It’s a very wholesome movie and I couldn’t help but smile at how the boys’ friendship was handled.

[@PhoenixRising87]

Encanto and Turning Red were good, too. Haven't seen Onward, but it's on my list (I love urban fantasy).

[@alchemy5750]

I don't think there's a problem with Magnifico having no tragic backstory and him just being "evil for being evil". Just cause they have no generational trauma or something, pure evils can be extremely entertaining characters. Think of villains such as Big Jack Horner, Ursula, Maleficent (before the reboot) etc. I think the main issue with Magnifico was not that he was "just evil", rather he had no purpose with being evil. Scar from Lion King was pure evil, but he also had a goal of becoming the new king of the pridelands instead of spending his life in Mufasa and Simba's shadow. Usula was pure evil, but she had a goal of dethroning Triton and ruling over the seas instead of being banished into a small cave on rock bottom. Magnifico was evil, but... like, he was already a king. What did he want to use his big evil green powers for? What is his goal? He kinda reminds me of Megamind who took over a city with all his evil intentions, and then had absolutely 0 idea what to do with it. But unlike Megamind's story, which was basically a redemption/finding yourself arc, Magnifico was written to be just a villain.

[@scratch2086]

The real crushed dream was your expectations for this move dying along the way.

[@TreeHairedGingerAle]

Encanto was great, but then again it was aimed towards a VERY specific demographic that knew EXAAAACTLY where Mirabel and Bruno were coming from.... 😭😭😭 Because intergenerational trauma is a bitch

[@forrestgump4275]

Encanto was actually really good for me

[@Mysterious-Night]

The end felt like it was missing something

[@Kelsey1987]

@@Mysterious-Nightyeah the ending was weird

[@namkia205]

​@@Mysterious-NightI also didn't like the ending it confused the sh*t out of me

[@chaosqueen1703]

@@Mysterious-Night I think the thing you're looking for is a _proper_ apology to Bruno and Dolores's gift becoming less of a torture

[@hamothemagnif8529]

I loved the style used in Paperman. I thought this was going to be the same style.

[@d.h.7745]

old person reference: this reminds me of a movie you would find in a bin of dvds at a dollar store

[@Affenganove12]

Ok so here is why the story has to be ai: im gonna freestyle a whole story now and its gonna make more sense: King is evil sorcerer - takes wishes from all people to become most powerful wizard through wishing for more and more power and gets more land and peasants = more wishes to steal for more power (if sentimental, he stands in the shadow of his brother) Girl - her parents are not there -> searches kingdom -> learns about wishes but since everyone wish gets taken its only a myth -> she enters castle -> sees king being evil -> king sings evil king song to his servant dude (sidekick) and his horde (idk some knights) -> evil villain laugh -> girl runs to forest in shock -> finds goat -> finds star -> star has magic but not enough to help girl -> star leads girl to witch hut -> witch there knows about the king, but doesn’t want to get involved offers to teach tho -> girl learns witchcraft and combines star magic with her magic, star dude love story -> they return to kingdom but king is already very powerful -> star gets captured -> witch helps even after she didn’t want to get involved (might die, depends) -> king dies, all wishes are granted -> parents were actually imprisoned cause they found out king was evil, now they are free -> girl gets wish -> wishes star dude to be real dude -> love, end, brother becomes king of this kingdom, like the king in robin hood, and makes everything be great again

[@fernandorangel9449]

The style of this movie reminds me of “Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the lost demon” that game also have like the watercolor palette with the thick outlines, but in comparative, Bayonetta it’s really appealing to the eye by playing with more saturated colors and some cell shading techniques on the characters, they looked well mixed with the world, but this movie… it’s just the really basic concept of that, from a big animation house… Disney really fell off

[@dovahkiin6488]

Really want to play that game tbh

[@aethertoast4320]

The idea of managing and not granting everyone their wishes based on how much it will help or f-up society is a great furtile ground for story-telling how they screw that up is amazing. I mean it is a good way to show how both totalitarian and anarchy is a bad in both extremes, but that is too smart for modern Disney.

[@DangericeDreams]

With all the sludge Disney has been pushing out lately, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised.

[@draconis17]

I think Magnifico was like that because people were asking for an old school villain in the vein of Scar/Jafar/e.t.c., who is just plain evil and never gets redeemed. Problem is, they've forgotten how to do that kind of character well.

[@scaredpuffin]

I can’t believe the same company that made The Black Cauldron, Fantasia, Treasure Planet, etc. made…this. It’s not bad, just isn’t as great as people had hoped

[@bluetiger2468]

I feel like this movie had potential to be deep. Like, what if the king didn't grant wishes to people who wouldn't be able to maintain the wish? Example: If a guy wishes to be a great musician. But the king can see he's not actually passionate about music and just wants it for attention. A wish like that would be more useful to someone who actually puts a lot of effort and passionate into music. Which is a good lesson for kids. You can't just "wish" for a skill, you need to actually put effort into developing it.

[@kordeliiius9821]

I’m still of the opinion that, in spite of Disney and Pixar’s misses leading up to the 2020’s, they still made some good movies. Encanto was fantastic, Soul was moving, and Luca and Turning Red were cute and enjoyable. I think that even if parts of these movies were starting to become exhausted, they still brought something unique to the table. From what I’m hearing about Wish, it does not sound very unique, even though the premise and the North African/southwest European setting had much to offer. but on account of Disney’s recent donation to the IOF, im not too keen on spending money to confirm those assessments

[@davilemes3249]

encanto and luca are great tho

[@JustAnArrogantAlien]

The fact that there’re _so many_ videos arguing that the villain of this movie isn’t even a villain is very telling. And most of those videos aren’t just being funny: they bring up solid points why King Magnifico isn’t evil, at least not at first. He contemplates the ripple effects of every wish he grants before doing so, only granting wishes that won’t damage the community. That’s what any sane and responsible sorcerer should do, and the film paints him as wrong for it? It’s not until the Luma shows up and makes the king feel threatened for some reason that he becomes truly (and inexplicably) maniacal. I agree with the reviewers who have argued that Asha should have turned out to be a twist villain. Have her arc be her coming to realize that the king is right, and her “everyone deserves to have their wishes granted” philosophy cannot work in real life. That could’ve been really interesting.

[@thelittleheathenfromSweden]

Haven't seen Wish yet but from what I hear it seem like Adam Sandler beat Disney at it's own game, which is just the wildest thing to me and something I never thought I would get to experience 😂

[@TheGamerProBeardBro]

The last generation said the same thing about the movies we grew up with and now we’re doing the same thing, when these kids grow up they’ll see the great quality of the movies that are coming out today, history tends to repeat itself

[@namkia205]

A lot of those younger kids dislike these new movies too that's why they watch Cocomelon, The Amazing Digital Circus and that Monster Truck Dinosaur thing. I'm a little younger I should know that!

[@Chair_hater]

​@@namkia205TADC shouldn't be a kids show though

[@gemstone108]

@@namkia205 They’re only watching Cocomelon and cartoons not meant for their age range because parents won’t monitor what they’re actually watching and just put on whatever to placate them

[@namkia205]

@@Chair_hater I know, but it's still easily available and iPad parents suck so it's happening anyways.

[@pumpkin2986]

Wish is like one of pictures that make sense if you only glance it, but if you actually stop to look, then it makes less and less sense the more you look at it.

[@adiveler]

Funny how DreamWorks just a year ago made a movie about wishes (that also had the word "Wish" in its title), and that movie was universally praised!

[@ixiahj]

I thought it was written by AI because I've used sudowrite and novelai to write stories for lulz. The stories that get generated are middle of the road, vanilla safe content. You need to manually alter the generated content afterwards if you want to steer the thing in a certain direction. If you let the AI do the whole thing on auto pilot, the story ends up being pointless or... soul less.

[@matiaspereyra9392]

Whsh is that movie I never even heard of before it cane out, like when the videos of "Disney's new movie flops" started rolling I was like "what the fuck is that? That's not a real movie"

[@jennpao1999]

The two couple dinamic was so perfect. Imagine the villain losing her lover and so Asha at the end it would be so tragic and like both sharing the same hurtfull feeling and then showing the difference between the villain and the hero, she would keep going and he would get more evil

[@timrektrax8481]

Encanto is an awesome movie, it's one of my favorite modern Disney movies. Encanto replaced Moana for me. Which is my other favorite modern Disney movie.

[@MegaManXegesis]

AI isn't immune to editing. Humans accepted the output, edited it, completed it, and decided this was good enough for Disney's 100th. The creativity is gone. The AI is just a symptom.

[@ArAsDeCos]

We could have had a villain power couple. We were robbed T.T

[@seastormsinger]

Luca was underrated as hell.

[@funnyandweirdchanneledits5865]

I think wish, Encanto, Luca,onward, and so on we’re amazing movies

[@funnyandweirdchanneledits5865]

@@KingMagnificoWish camilo

[@melikesmuffins6676]

They tried to make the king both evil for the sake of it like their older villains and "human" at the same time and got the worst of both worlds

[@morgantodd3748]

They forgot to give him a motivation for evildoing.

[@queendsheena1]

I call this 'Encanto done badly,' and I loved Encanto.

[@nateburket4344]

The animation for Disney's Centennial milestone, looks like a barely finished episode of Sophia the First

[@keikarhinopuppy]

It's hilarious that every video essay I've seen can come up with a better plot for this movie. I want to see all of them now.