Witcher 3: What Happens if you DON'T help Cerys and Hjalmar (Crach's Children)

[@VDA19]

This is really surprising. I chose Cerys because I thought they were doomed if this guy lead. Well, I'm happy he turns out a decent fellow. What irks be if he doesn't become king is that they exile him for his mother's sins, even though he basically told the truth and saved Cerys' clan from death.

[@walterc.dornez7672]

Yeah it didn't seem right, the fact that he didn't side with his mother and forced her to tell the truth about what she had done should have been enough to regain the honor of his clan and let him become head of it, instead he's exiled for a crime he didn't even commit.

[@VDA19]

+Walter C. Dornez (The Angel Of Death) It makes no sense. The guy is the only reason his mom is found guilty because he literally provides the /thread testimony and they exile him? Wat. How does that support honesty and justice? Punishing people for being fair and speaking truthful?

[@walterc.dornez7672]

pateuvasiliu what happened to him was injustice

[@RuSosan]

+pateuvasiliu Well, the Skellige-folk are quite notorious for being hard-headed. The tradition of burning a widow with her husband makes no sense to me either.

[@Elspethknighterrant]

+RuSosan Because you don't seem to have any knowledge of Scandinavian customs. It's a religious custom, they place him and all his earthly belongings to the longboat where they lit the funeral pyre along with her to escort him in the afterlife.

[@Divinemartyr]

I NEVER did this option because i had no faith in Svanrige... and boy was I wrong... I genuinely felt my jaw drop when he axed that diplomat.

[@splatxvaco5132]

yoooooo please help me

[@splatxvaco5132]

i chose not to help them too but now i don't what to do help

[@splatxvaco5132]

im stuck on the mission i cant find any trackers how did he get to this mission ?

[@rikralph]

@@splatxvaco5132 After the Berserk Bear Massacre, You get the option to choose whether to help Cerys or her Brother Hjalmar find the culprits. What you need to do here is to reject both choices, basically, the quit the conversation choice with Crach.

[@Silly_Illidan]

Poor diplomat....never kill the messanger

[@xLetalis]

That's a surprising turn of events :) I'm glad to see it actually, I kind of liked this guy and how he didn't defend his treacherous mother, nice to see he can get a happy ending as well!

[@JoeMartinez18]

+xLetalis Yep... although he is known to be a ... well a little whiny milkdrinker, he turns out to be a honourous man. Respect Bro, I'll follow you to the nd of the world and back !!! For Svanrige !

[@SandyCheeks1896]

Agree, but it pissed me off to have a failed quest, so I helped Cerys

[@Sigismund-von-Luxembourg]

+xLetalis not really happy ending so much as now they have Atilla the Hun or Genghas Khan as a ruler

[@Phyloraptor]

+David Jones So if I undersand well, I shoudn't waste time trying to complete brothers in arms : skellige because it's impossible to complete? (if I choose this path)

[@Riri_734]

Wow, didn't expect this honestly. In fact i didn't realize there was such an option. Now it seems like Svanrige is the best choice for King among the 3 candidates. This perfectly shows how sometimes inaction is the best course of action. Geralt poking his nose where it doesn't belong can prove damaging more often than not. Just like Shani says, Geralt has a big bad habit of being a busybody.

[@Gu1d-0]

I find Svanringe interresting as a character. He's always quiet, never really let anyone knows what he really has in mind like most skelligans loud personnalities, but when he acts, it's worth more than a thousand words. His mother tried to make a puppet ou of him but he's the son of his father Bran : a true skelligan. He's a badass imo, the skelligan king who united all the clans against niilfgaard.

[@xLetalis]

same here, I didn't expect him to do what he did

[@pffa9675]

All out war against Nilfgaard is always a bad idea. The northern kingdoms were all but lost. Or were barely managing to hang on to their reign. It's just a matter of time

[@kingclint2382]

@@pffa9675 Come on , if you don't kill Rad he crushes the invaders and even takes novigrad . He is a gr8 strategist.

[@revolverocelot1380]

@@kingclint2382 He doesn't crush nilfgaard. Emhyr failed to convince the trade federation to keep financing his wars and he gets assassinated. Radovid wins by default.

[@kingclint2382]

@@revolverocelot1380 He was assassinated after the victory of Rad. Watch that epilogue. They pulled support after he lost the war. If you hate a man , hate him but admit it if he is a genius. Look at the way he took Novigrad without fighting with that Church mastercard. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4uchKusgNyXfM0 here and cheers North won.

[@BlackLegion12621]

0:53 "No one important..." U wot m8?

[@Pilafcg]

Yee fookin wot m8?

[@NotMikey437]

Geralt: allow me to list all the titles I've been given in all my 100 years of being alive.

[@zawadibnasayed154]

@@NotMikey437 *geralt licks his finger before opening up a page*so you see...

[@flashback0180]

Garalt: Bitch I defeated god

[@foxglove65]

nice b8

[@zefuk2628]

... the dumbest decision you could have made when choosing a king ... is actually one of the best ? well played CDProjekt ... well played

[@gronndar]

He starts civil war in order to turn Skellige to monarchy, it kills countless people. dunno if thats so good choice.

[@zefuk2628]

i mean .... he pretty much became a well known ruler and fucked with everyone , even the player's expectations , i say that he's still better than Hjalmar ;)

[@Caedus696]

If you read the lore on Skellige, every time a king dies there is a civil war or at least bloody infighting while they try to select a new king. On this path, at least there is a secured line of succession to end all of that crazyness.

[@itzhen7032]

S K besides she could die at anny given moment and the throne could go to somone like lugos. And then all her good stuff would be in vain

[@itzhen7032]

S K but to see things from another point of view, a war with nilfguard is a war skellege would never win

[@Achillez098]

You heard what the king said! MOOOOOOVVEEE XD

[@thegreenreaper6660]

Realise the perspective too for a moment: Crach an Craite, most powerful of all the Jarls. Nicknamed the fearsome 'Wild Boar of the Sea', this man has commanded countless raids, and fought in many battles. Crach is one 'who has seen it all'.....yet here even the legendary Crach has the biggest 'WTF-Moment' of his entire life!!!

[@ricardocortes5975]

This freaking piece of art has been out for almost a year and im still finding new stuff...even at new game plus its impossible to discover all...so many different choices

[@needlessoptions]

I bought the GOTY Edition in January for £20.99. Steam says I've clocked 470 hours+ so far, on my 5th playthrough, even I still find new stuff to do. Absolute fucking masterpiece. Best £21 I've ever spent.

[@Taima]

If it makes you feel better, it's been a year+ since your comment and I'm just finding out now myself.

[@J_Wiggs]

on my third playthrough and still finding new stuff.

[@scaccu]

it took me 9 runs to see pretty much all the stuff. i was amazed how in the last run i was still discovering new things.

[@bronah6942]

Only if you knew how much stuff there really is

[@noahshutts5655]

So basically, don't let hjalmar rule and it's all good

[@byfo1991]

Pretty much, yeah

[@kronoscamron7412]

King Hjalmar FTW

[@victoriasharpe1661]

Noah Shutts and there’s me wanting him as king in one of my walkthroughs. F that lol

[@theonemrtom101]

Noah Shutts King Hjalmar you mean

[@bohdansmoldas337]

hjalmar is king long live king ps:FOR TEMERIA AND KILL NILFFGARD

[@WingXCustom]

Holy fuck, Svanrige's a boss! I liked him when he called out his mom, even though he gets exiled for it.This makes me like his ass even more. No homo..

[@JoeMartinez18]

sure not homo? Because I'm a Homo Sapiens >:D ... But jokes aside. He might won't be a great king because he starts a monarchy in Skellige... so yes, he starts a new dynasty.

[@JackHole10000]

He had guts for ratting her out despite knowing the consequences. The man has heart if nothing else.

[@Spencer_Thatcher]

​@@JoeMartinez18Did somebody say BUTT Jokes

[@IRUNASSULT]

And here I was thinking you had to chose between the two siblings. This game is excellent.

[@Chronically_ChiII]

IRUNASSAULT How does authotarian centrist even work?

[@arch_6133]

Up/down is about how much the government controls the people. Left/right is how much control the government has on money and industries. Stop thinking that only the right(or left as i don't know your political views) can be fascist, I (a Libertarian) just don't like taxes and want to be left alone; and let others do what they want,provided they don't impede others liberties. Case in point, you can easily be a autocrat centrist; because money can be a separate issue to freedom.

[@kingaragornii9940]

@@arch_6133 Wrong video, bud. 😹🤦

[@nomadpredator9148]

it's funny when you compare Skellige's future depending on those choices and our own history: -Cerys: Skellige goes in a so called "peaceful isolationism" with some ocassional civil wars, reminds me of the Icelandic Commonwealth -Hjalmar: Skellige stays the same way, honoring tradition, trading in peaceful times, raiding when at war, similar to the Norse-Viking era - Svanrige: Skellige adopts feudalism, based on same tradition like that from the Continent, reminds me of a medieval Danish or Swedish kingdom

[@ImAwesome1277]

Nomad Predator svanrige definitely a danish king in the 800s. I feels bad man for looking the other way at him. I like cerys as ruler but she's too passive and hjalmar is too much of warrior to be a proper king.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Brandon Tillery he ends up starting a bloody civil war by getting information rid of the jarls, Only under cerys do the islands prosper

[@jinmori5051]

Nomad Predator ok

[@Chronically_ChiII]

Iron Wolf Totally right. And if Roche rules the north, finish blood and whine without the dutchess dying, Triss becoming counselor in Kovir and Ciri becomes an empress, then you have amaizing relations everywhere. 10/10, objectivly the best ending.

[@Fhglauser]

G.G. Ciri doesn't want to be the Empress, she loves been an adventurer/witcher, we can see that in the books and the game. Letting Emir rule those treacherous Nilfguardians with an iron fist is the best solution.

[@kkbaby30]

That's the thing about this game being so reflective of RL: doing what feels good doesn't always do good.

[@xLetalis]

indeed

[@TheRyanbossxx]

i think when playing you gotta be in a utilitarian mind set i guess

[@ammolator]

This is actually even better.

[@SlavicWolfPL]

Well, I wasn't able to reject help to Crach and his children (Cerys, exactly) after the massacre- they are one of few people who treat Geralt with respect and REAL friendship (if there would be option not to take any reward for helping Hjalmar and Cerys in their quests, I'd choose it.)- and I was afraid that not helping them means infamy and destruction of their clan. Here it seems that Crach is still respected (not hated, at least). Is there any ingame explanation of this?

[@xLetalis]

Szakal I agree, I also thought helping them was the right thing to do. Though I didn't think not helping them would dishonor Crach, may be it will be bad for his children, but not necessarily for him

[@SlavicWolfPL]

I was afraid of what Udalryk said: "Find the guilty or your clan will be cursed for hundred generations to come!"- and refusing to help looked to me like one of those "truly emotionless, neutral asshole" moments (like leaving the sadistic priest to torture the prostitute in "Carnal Sins" or allowing Dijkstra to kill Roche&Co.)

[@xLetalis]

Szakal ah I see... well if you decide not to help them (with the Giant and the Curse) you never actually reach this point :) The queen is behind all of this and she doesn't need to do it since her son becomes King

[@stomponshao]

Szakal Without Ciri Geralt would still be such a "truly emotionless neutral asshole" XD

[@lilyfel2118]

+Claire de Danann When has Geralt ever been a "truly emotionless neutral asshole"? The whole time, a long way before Ciri, he invents Witcher's codex to help the innocent/harmless all the way... despite swaying to desperation/resignation, carnal desires, or irony/sarcasm sometimes to every so often, I'd never call him "heartless".. Just a guy trying not to take sides when there are no clear innocents, but trying to make the best of any given situation, in the sense of truly meaning well and trying to help people (get along with each other). *shrugs [books-wise, not necessarily all possible ways you can play along in the games]

[@Aresmanticore78]

Svanrige is the silent and gentle kid in the class who then proceeds to go full butcher on the The School Bully

[@CheezSamuri]

School of the Bully

[@punishercastle5487]

The funny and kind of sad thing is this ending means that the worst choice for king is actually Hjalmar. Cerys is best since she unites the clans through peace and leads Skellige to prosperity, but Svanrige also unites the clans against Nilfgaard. That in itself is impressive but frankly an all out war with Nilfgaard is still a bad idea. And Hjalmar just basically leads a bunch of raids that end up with a large loss of life, and the clans aren't even united!

[@punishercastle5487]

That being said Svanrige does unite the clans by killing a lot of people. Point is Cerys is the best and Hjalmar is probably the worst lol

[@punishercastle5487]

+Dex4Sure very good point. I was categorizing "best" as the one that results in the least deaths. Ur right that if radovid or djikstra rule then u would want someone to probably fight them, but even then Svanrige might be a better choice. But again it's a matter of opinion

[@kartikayysola]

+Punisher Castle I agree about Hjalmar. Basically, I always thought of him as the one you would want leading your army, not your country.

[@wes8723]

Well the problem with Cerys is if Nilfgaard attacks them, she doesn't have such a powerful army to fight against them (atleast that looks to happen according to what is said in her ending).. Svanrige unites all the clanes, brings prosperity but still has a powerful army to defend the Skellige islands.. Cerys on the other hand, does not

[@kronoscamron7412]

Hjalmar is a good king imo. Also basically all the clans support a king who will attack milfgaard after madman lugos dies. so they were united

[@MsWannabeGamer]

Who knew inaction could be the best action? I kind of regret choosing Cerys now, even though she was the most reasonable and peaceful.

[@xLetalis]

MsWannabeGamer yep :) I still like Cerys, but this guy does great as well, he does not turn into a servant of his mother which I feared

[@sundawg911]

MsWannabeGamer i'm kind of sadden now. he turns out to be the best choice. cerys was smart and patient which was why i went with her. it was hard not to help crach out but maybe i'll replay and not do it this time.

[@xLetalis]

sundawg911 I still wonder what happens to Cerys and Hjalmar if you decide not to help them

[@MsWannabeGamer]

I finished the game and retract this statement. I like the ending cutscene for Cerys much better than for Hjalmar or Svanrige. So I still like my choice for Cerys, even if it causes a small civil war.

[@Garl_Vinland]

MsWannabeGamer Cerys is the perfect choice to ensure a weak Skellige for the Golden Sun of Nilfgaard to invade >:)

[@respiratoryfailure3780]

A story revolving around Svanrige as the main character after his exile sounds interesting

[@the1stanimekaratepup]

Yeah I wanna know what happens to him!

[@HandsomeJoe-h4h]

Ye hear what the king said? Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove!

[@igorveloso100]

Damn, the boy has giant balls! Wish I could go back and make this guy the King!

[@xdemon6923]

I did it lol😄 replayed the whole thing

[@affirmingtoe15]

Well good news friend. That's exactly what the replay button is for.

[@honeybadger4396]

Poor Nilfgaardian soldiers, they just followed orders to serve as guard for the diplomat and had to die in the end :(

[@ElBandito]

Such was the life of a diplomat and his escorts. Mongol envoys had plenty of that.

[@xiaomu9297]

member when mongols wanted to trade with persians? and then they killed the mongol and muslim ambassadors LOL

[@ElBandito]

Cy Isip Yep. It was at that moment, the Khwarezmians fucked up. To think how different history of Islam would have been, if they did not kill the Mongol traders and ambassadors.

[@honeybadger4396]

El Bandito I'm pretty damn sure Mongols would've attacked them sooner or later for any type of reason. They were conquerors and would've attacked them anyway.

[@xiaomu9297]

HoneyBadger nope, at the height of the mongol empire they wanted to trade.

[@thetardyowlvg9155]

This confirms my long-held suspicion that Byrna Bran suffered from a Queen Mother complex.

[@xLetalis]

What is that?

[@thetardyowlvg9155]

@@xLetalis The "my child should rule," attitude, but she never intended to actually let him rule, as evidenced by how she was speaking **for** him during the meeting with the ambassador. It probably isn't actually called a Queen Mother complex, but that's what I call it due to how many times it's happened in history.

[@Al-fm8kh]

@@thetardyowlvg9155 Oh kind of like cersei and tommen in the ice and fire books

[@thetardyowlvg9155]

@@Al-fm8kh Very much so

[@sebas8225]

@@Al-fm8kh She had started it much earlier, with Joffrey, thing is, Joffrey often fought back, Tommen was screwed case he didnt had the ^Balls to do the same.

[@dutchministryofdefence604]

combine this with Dijkstra's ending and this is the best outcome the north could ever have

[@xenoplayz4524]

witcher ciri ending, Dijkstra ending and this is definitely the best the north could hope for. Emperor dead perhaps even the conquerored lands rebel and tameria regains control sadly no rouch.

[@l0tusb3rrie]

I like this guy and I don't mind him being king, but Birna doesn't deserve a happy ending >:(

[@miguelcondadoolivar5149]

She never gets it. Either Svanrige foils all her plans, Hjalmar becomes king (and Cerys hunts for her in the shadows) or Cerys discovers her and she gets a horrible death.

[@thegreenreaper6660]

Tháts actually the 'moral' push you get from the game: That horrible slaughter at the feast! Thats what makes you wánt to find out. This questline is absolutely brílliantly written!

[@exlibrisas]

Cerys and only Cerys. I liked her so much.

[@ferdlc7757]

Jimmy Grant no she's not, if you choose her and finish the game you get a cutscene that says skellige prospered with her ruling

[@JohnBillings83]

If you don't pick Cerys then you miss out on a place of power as well.

[@cetin1864]

I choose Cerys because of i love her accent sooo much

[@bohdansmoldas337]

long live king hjalmar!

[@luukas2660]

@KIDAS First of all why would anyone want to invade skellige? The Islands are out of the way and without significant resources. Not only that but they would be an absolute pain in the ass to hold since the Skellige population would rather die than to submit to a foreign power. Also just because their "fangs are dulled" doesn't mean their military isn't just as large as it was. It could very well mean that they've stopped raiding and because of that aren't as battle hardened. Furthermore war against Nilfgaard or Redania even with all clans united would be suicide. The Isles wouldn't stand a chance against the undivided attention of a continental power.

[@mangoldm]

Sometimes the right things happen for the wrong reasons.

[@emretovic]

When he even sent his mother to death for the sake of honor and honesty, I understood that he was a decent man.

[@ExtremeGamingHD3D]

Just curious.. Have you always been a fan of The Witcher universe? Or did it all start after The Witcher 3 was released (as it was in my case)? Shame I didn't know English good enough in 2015 to play in English once the game came out. I would've tried to compete with you =)

[@xLetalis]

It did actually start with the Witcher 3 :) I loved it absolutely... then played Witcher 2, read the books and then Witcher 1

[@nothingimportant5158]

@@xLetalis Witcher 1 was awful imo. But maybe it's because of time that went on

[@user-hu8fn2jp5v]

@@nothingimportant5158 yeah i didnt like it due to its age. It deserves a remake, after cyberpunk ofcourse

[@hoptropikcz4973]

@@nothingimportant5158 I disagree

[@Marco-xi6mw]

@@nothingimportant5158, The Witcher 1 is awesome imo.

[@adindrecaj]

this is really cool, and tbh i prefer Svanrige as king over Crach's kids, but is it woth Cerys' and Hjalmar's life? i dont know, i dont think so. Each outcome has its pros and cons depending on your perspective, depending on what game ending you want as well. this game really is incredible with its choices and multitude of outcomes.

[@RedDawnWrath]

The way Crach says "move" makes me think he's trying to get the Jarls to break it down

[@nttntjno1797]

The king buried his hatchet with Nilfgaard. Right in the ambassador's chest.

[@jcksparrowfan]

As maudlin as it may sound, I like the idea of Cerys and Hjalmar going off to fight Nilfgaardians and dying at sea/in battle. And seeing as Crach dies fighting Eredin, a hero's death, its all the more fitting and goes with the overall dark setting of the Witcher.

[@redagustin6660]

the best ruler is the one where the witcher is in inaction neither taking sides, true witcher philosophy in play

[@lilblankiesama269]

So he’s actually the best option because he seems to be a balanced mixture of both Cerys and Hjalmar. I’ve played this game like 4 times and I had no clue he was option as well.

[@TheRealKiRBEY]

8 years later and im just horrified that his dodge is on his numpad

[@Elaini-Gaming]

Many instances show that Svanrige has the potential to be Skellige's ruler and he's not ruled by Birna, but I really can't bring myself not to care about Cerys and Hjalmar to make it happen.

[@killerclone2177]

birna bran: treaty sounds good Svanriga: i don't remember asking for your opinion

[@bethbearmacethatguy]

My compulsion to complete all quests has led me too miss lots of stuff. That's so awesome that the world keeps moving despite Geralt's lack of intervention.

[@Stefan-xt5sk]

Wow, I didn't even think having Svanrige as king was a possible outcome for this quest!

[@xLetalis]

same here ;]

[@SlowBoatSailing]

Glad I decided at the last minute to save the An Crait kids.

[@yuhufeng5370]

Part of Svanrige's personality and political inclination are revealed when you help Cyres investigate the bloodshed. Svanrige will standout and accuse his mother and got both his mother and himself capital punishments, just because he doesn't like his mother's plots and means. At this point, you can sort of telling that he's in some way like Hjalmar-he has a strong sense of justice and not good at strategy and politics, but less impulsive and radical. As for their ruling style, you will realize that for the benefit of people of Skellige, Cyres is the best choice and Svanrige is the second best. As for Hjalmar, it's just suicide. This is obvious for three reasons: 1. Skellige is mostly mountain, meaning farming like continental states is impossible. To survive, Skelligans need to raid coasts of the continents, which happens to be Nilffgardians. Consequentially, Skellige became an unstable factor in the eyes of the Emperor. However, unlike Toussant, being non-threatening and wealthy enough on its own, Skellige is barren (needs aid) and costly to rule(nationalistic, like Temeria). Thus the Emperor will need to either block it from the continent by destroying its military or force Skelligans to transform their economy. 2. Skellige is not a continent but made of isles. Resulting in a political structure consisted of a bunch of powerful jarls instead of a centralized government under a monarch's control. This structure makes Skellige rather unstable politically. Jugo, one of the jarls defecting to Nilffgardians is the best example. 3. Skellige has a strong navy but has limited resources to support a long-last war, whereas the Nilffgardians are both wealthy and powerful. Skellige will not be able to hold any longer as soon as the North is defeated. So you can see that Skellige really doesn't have a choice. It has to either join the empire or prove to the Emperor that it's not a threat by stop harassing continental coast. Cyres did just that. As for Svanrige, he reformed the political structure and made it a monarchy. It allows Skellige to be more efficient and giving it more power against the Emperor. However, it's not a safe path. It might work like Roche's guerrilla-too effective that the emperor has to think before starting a full-scale war. It might also irritate the emperor because of Svanrige killed the Nilffgardian ambassador and keeps making Skellige a threat. So Savnrige is a very risky pick as Skellige is not likely to stand a chance in front of the Nilffgardians, but uniting the isles might change the game. As for Hjalmar, literally the worst leader possible. Despite popular, he cannot unite the jarls like Cyres and Svanrige nor is good at strategies like Radovid. And above all, he wants to fight the emperor. Skellige will be doomed if Hjalmar takes place.

[@Bob-km1wh]

Emyr doesnt give a shit if a country is a threat or not. He invades and constally expands anyway in unprovoked, unjustified wars. He WILL invade Skelliege when he feels like it whether or not they are a threat

[@Kobra39]

Only option that would be ultimately excellent would be a marriage of Cerys and Svanrige.

[@helenakim3447]

I think this is the best ending under cerys skellige prospered but it’s military might is weakened, this ending have have prosperity and strength.

[@nevermore13]

I just started a new playthrough and decided to make this guy the king after watching this.😭😭😭

[@ElBandito]

Didn't know Vermin Supreme was in Witcher 3.

[@respiratoryfailure3780]

Wish I could make him king without getting Cerys and Hjalmar killed

[@xLetalis]

yeah :(

[@doumtabarnak]

Never thought Svanrige actually had balls. Amazing.

[@DissAeon]

Now that's a jaw dropping turn of events...

[@lordofgingers]

The music that plays when the fighting starts. So good.

[@skeeter197140]

I don't understand comments like "This game has been out 6 months, and it STILL rocks!" Why does it matter if a game is over a certain age? A good game is a good game, and this is one of the best I've ever played. Even if it is 5 years old now.

[@xLetalis]

fair enough

[@captainaubrey3735]

Because other games are the same from the beginning to the end. This one can be kinda different if you make different choices and it will still remain great game and you will have a feeling as if you played fresh new game. Thats what people were pointing out

[@skeeter197140]

@@captainaubrey3735 That just proves my point. Everyone is "oh this game has been out 5 WHOLE YEARS!! I can't believe it's still good and relevant! 5 WHOLE YEARS!!" (or whatever. 6 months? Something or other.) I just don't get it. I downloaded FF VII the other day. Didn't stand up as good as I hoped, but that game is darn near 25 years old! Maybe it's because I'm getting older, and 5 years just doesn't seem long enough to start talking about something becoming "old". Witcher 3 is still one of the best games ever. Even if it is starting to sprout a couple grey hairs.

[@jcksparrowfan]

Funnily enough, if you take a venture upstairs Hjalmar and Cerys are still chilling in their rooms.... Kaer Trolde is haunted.

[@skymanlee]

And one more thing. This result shows neither of the Crach's children could find out the real murder without Geralt's help. Meaning, neither of them are superior than Svanrige. In that case, why choose one of them?

[@redpanda3339]

I realized the better choice should be Svanrige as king, Cerys as queen. Svanrige could build a dynasty from that pairing of two great houses. Svanrige get to unite the jarls and be a menace to Nilfgaard while the queen stay to look after the islands, improving infrastructure etc. It's unfortunately that isn't a choice.

[@Kurczak00]

Sometimes I regret helping Cerys and Hjalmar. I like them both, but this is marvellous!

[@xLetalis]

I know what you mean

[@janeshepard9549]

How each potential ruler of Skellige responds to Nilfgaard - Cerys : If you attack us, we attack you. Hjalmar : Let's fight. Svanrige : Don't fxck with us...unless you want to be blood-eagled.

[@dutchministryofdefence604]

Cery is a very very good choice. But the fact that Skellige goes into civilwar everytime a new king has to be elected. Will undo all her good deeds, and the fact that Skellige,s militaire wont be as strong is very worrysome with Nilfgaard on their shores. Svannrigh is the best option becasue he puts a end to the elective monarchy, thus having a clear line of succesion. Which will prevent tons and tons of civilwars, making Skellige prosper in the longterm

[@thegreenreaper6660]

From the 2 obvious choices: Hjalmar or Cerys, this is actually the 'most Skellige'- option, and imho the coolest too! Siding with Crach's son or daughter ís the more logical and 'honorable' choice, though this is a very well-made option! Its been 6 years since this game came out. I still log back into it to enjoy it nowadays, it be in a murky swamp of Velen, the dark forests of the 1st expansion or the beautiful region of Touissaint from the second expansion, Witcher 3 is perhaps thé best game so far. There's a lot of réally good and populair games out there, but this one is truly a masterpiece!

[@rattlingfangs]

The best king of skellige!

[@the_dropbear4392]

Manoj Joseph not really as he ends up creating a bloody civil war

[@louirudy2681]

When i played i didnt even see it as an option to help neither of them, so i went with Cerys. later Geralt explains that this decision started a civil war...who wouldve known that this dude united all of skellige, was the founder of a dynasie, and the best choice in the end....

[@thekillers1stfan]

This could potentially be really stupid, depending on whether or not Redania is still fighting Nilfgaard.

[@victoriasharpe1661]

thekillers1stfan redania meaning if radovid or dikjstra is controlling the north?

[@vaskopoh9512]

@@victoriasharpe1661 Dijkstra doesn't completely take the North away from Nilfgaard, Radovid does.

[@TESkyrimizer]

Feels bad being the emissary's bodyguards.

[@lordfarquad420]

Comparing this to Cerys isn’t that great, since you have to kill Lugos and the Tuirsachs are banished the An Craite’s effectively establish their own Dynasty with Cerys as Queen and Hjlamar as ruler of all of Ard Skellige, plus if you help Nilfgaard win the war and Ciri is empress she would most likely make a truce with Cerys

[@journey95far49]

never knew you could do this, very interesting

[@berlinsusanto5748]

Svandrige best king for skellige with their custom of life. Hjalmar best king as barbaric skellige. And cerys best for people who seek a king like foltes

[@bastianayk]

After so many years... the witcher still surprising

[@xLetalis]

that's the witcher 3 for you :)

[@tohuiii]

All this time playing this and choosing beetwen the sibilings... And now i find out that the best choice is not to choose at all :'v Now my question is: If he gets to be king, will he help me to defend Kaer Morhen?

[@xLetalis]

No, as he only becomes king after Kaer Morhen

[@kingaragornii9940]

@@xLetalis But, would he, have come to the aid of Geralt and Ciri?

[@WitcherGerd]

So just to make sure, does this mean that an Crait is no longer shamed after it was revealed that Birna organised the massacre.

[@shengwu6104]

And some of Skelliger mourning for Cerys.

[@PokemonButcher]

2:31 to 2:36 I kept playing this over, and I laughed more each time!

[@justwatch7091]

*MOOOOOVVVVEEEEE*

[@j915winterking9]

The surprise at every turn from CDPR... It's what keeps us coming back, ain't it?

[@DeathGodRiku]

I still say Cerys is the best choice. She didn't go to war with Nilfgaard, didn't cost any alives, and brought peace and prosperity to the islands

[@pugilist102]

You also get the place of power in the secret tunnel. Can't get it if you choose the other two.

[@sirshotty7689]

It's been about 3 years since this game came out and I didn't even know this was an option

[@Art-pd4vb]

where are cerys and hjalmar after this.. I can't find them anywhere??

[@TheKahn14]

Gone they fled or are dead.

[@ZWXYZ021]

They are died. Because without Geralt help, they never found the evidence can clear their clan name. Until now jarls found out "traitor Birna" behind this. (She said she wants to let Svanrige be king. In fact, she just wants to sell Skellige to Nilfgaard.) So they choose attack nilfgaardian fleet, but neither return. (Character journal said they die).

[@VonArmagedda]

This is quite literally the first time I saw this. Never played out this option, because I though it be the worst, turns out it's the best one!

[@320FL]

Damn. Why did I chose hjalmarrr.......

[@janeshepard9549]

Svanrige looks so much like Uhtred from 'The Last Kingdom'.

[@supaboosta276]

To be honest I never thought Cerys or Hjalmar were fit to rule. Hjalmar was wreckless and would rather violence over reasoning. While Cerys was pretty much the opposite of him.

[@Hazevamp27]

Cerys brought peace to Skellige but she also weakened them greatly. All it would take is another stronger country to come along and they would be bowing in no time. Svanrige was the best of both, a nice balance. Neither too violent(Hjalmar) nor too submissive(Cerys). He gave his people the courage to fight against great odds and because of this, he united his people and created a greater kingdom in the end.

[@Eunostos]

Nice job projecting there, princess.

[@youknowyoufuckedupright3058]

Where did it says Cerys weakened Skellige? From what I recall, Cerys only wanted to unite and bring peace between the jarls not peace between Nilfgaard or Redania.

[@Hazevamp27]

En Garde, Bitch at the very end of the game. It says their fangs were dulled. Implying their weakened status.

[@danieldaw1778]

Hazevamp27 I thought they meant their legend of toughness wanted because they stopped raiding for no reason. She unites all of the clans, right? There's no way they'd actually be weaker united as a nation than a collective if loosely associated and self governed clans. Besides, Hjalmar dedicates himself to supporting her rule.

[@changowowowoezzy9617]

One of the vidlkarls said "like shrooms?, white horse" or somthing like that. Never noticed the foreshadowing

[@plamenivanov92]

Hjalmar is too agresive Svanrige will one day turn the jarls against himself Cerys is the best choice for the good of Skellige

[@odim7960]

Svanrige kills all the jarls and makes skellige a monarchy much like the northern kingdoms in the end, so nah

[@plamenivanov92]

Hjalmar is a good warlord but will not be a good king Svanrige started a civil war Cerys is the best choice

[@sergiomuniz350]

Can't say I saw that coming Should've posted what happened at the end of the main game to see how skellige fared with him as ruler

[@Emperor.Penguin.]

damn i thought haljmar was the best choise to fight nilfgaard then THIS! i'm gonna half to rewind my game a bit

[@GRAFFDEMON]

I always thought Cerys was the best choice.

[@Sigismund-von-Luxembourg]

Cerys is the most fit to be Monarch Haljmar is a great warrior and adventurer but a terrible king and administrator maybe if he was older Svanrige is a good ruler too in his own way he has that ruthless pragmatism about him that you would need when dealing with the other nations

[@Ichigo7401]

>female leaders

[@GRAFFDEMON]

Shekelburgstein >meme arrows >has "shekel" in the username >probably never even touched a woman

[@Emperor.Penguin.]

you pathetic dipshits aren't on 4chan

[@deborahtriumphant2621]

xD hahaha ermion "and what brought you here?come to make sure no scandal in skellige passes you by"

[@finasol1019]

I'm glad that there's really not a bad ending, no matter who you chose as king of Skellige. Yeah, Birna essentially gets away with what she did but at least Svanrige turns out to be a strong ruler. I'll always choose Cerys but this ending isn't half bad.

[@twinzzlers]

Pretty sure he disowns her

[@ASarode]

Also shows how honourable Crach is. Obviously a bit biased towards his children but ready to follow anyone worthy. I have never chosen this outcome but would be interesting who do you ask for help to fight at Kaer Morhen with Svanrige as king. Is there any video for that?

[@the1stanimekaratepup]

I think Cerys is the best choice because Hjalmar doesn't think. At all. And it leads to needless loss for his own clan. And I don't want either of them to die. But I like Svanrige a lot. Even in Cerys' route he shows good judgment, compassion, and courage--and he barely even says anything! I think he'll be okay if he's exiled. But it's a shame. He didn't deserve that from his mother. Or for her.

[@HAMMERofLUCERNE]

Im curious im certainly doing the Brothers in Arms: Skellige quest bit it says i must "Help resolve the matter of succession of the Skellige throne

[@HAMMERofLUCERNE]

How do i do so when i did help either of the kids after bear attack

[@xLetalis]

if you help resolve the situation after the bear attack - you can't have Svanrige become king. He only gets to rule if you don't help Cerys/Hjalmar

[@HAMMERofLUCERNE]

Sorry i didn't help either of them

[@HAMMERofLUCERNE]

Just curious what i need to do afterward to make Svanrige King

[@xLetalis]

@@HAMMERofLUCERNE Nothing :) Just keep going with the story, and it'll eventually happen

[@daygomusk794]

IS a good ending, lesser evil ending but the best ending is with Cerys.

[@schnebot]

1:53 was actually pretty surprised here. awesome scene

[@PrInCeMoHiT1]

He actually doesn't turn out to be the best choice. Here's the proof, but beware it's the ending epilogue: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmqqmKGog6qqbqM

That says he crushed petty feudal lords and liberated the people into a centralised kingdom, which is much better for the people in the end. That's how most of Europe became modern actually.

[@justagoose7741]

Blah b except he established an absolute monarchy, which was a common characteistic of Europes middle ages, aka the dark ages. Cerys was a much better choice

[@hjorth3387]

@@justagoose7741 Absolute Monarchies became common in Europe after the 17th century. The middle ages had feudal monarchies where the power was decentralized.

[@skymanlee]

I chose Cerys cause she really impressed me in her story line of helping the jarl. But I dont want Savnrige be exiled anyway.This game always surprises me.

[@LiikeAralleyrace]

skyman lee same, I kinda felt bad when savnrige went into exile and his mother got killed

[@kingaragornii9940]

🌟 *The crach family have been great at protecting skellegen kings.* So this is the best option against nilfgaard. But if Ciri is empress, then cerys should be queen and diplomacy wins. Both sides prosper.

[@jeremybstudentpilot5315]

I like how svanrigne was just watching everybody fight. 😂 He was about that actions.

[@WeatherMan404]

I always choose to help Cerys because I thought she was the best option and her and her brother were the only options but heres this dude keeping skellige, well skellige which is still in a way kinda bad because their traditions are still barbaric so I still think Cerys is still the best option

[@ichangedmyusernamebecausei2551]

So he’s like the king beyond the wall from game of thrones since he united all of skellige against nilfguard. Only difference is that his people are more civilized.

[@DaveDoingDaveThings]

Heh, who would have thought that would be the best ending ? Cerys does well and all but while she brings peace she also makes them go soft. Do both Crach's kids help you in the battle if you do this option ?

[@bartoszn1609]

Nope. None does.

[@hotaru1231]

+Dave “Ragnar” Bostock regardless of what child you help, Hjalmar will join Kear Morhen, but if you save some of his buddies during his mission they will join as well, currently i made it to 3 additional characters helping in kear morhe with Hjalmar as king, i beleive its only Hjalmar if Cerys is chosen, have yet to check this method

[@JoeMartinez18]

Na just Hjalmar and his budies help out.

[@luigi26]

Did you know that you can find birna dead and tethered in skellige near fayrlund?

[@xLetalis]

yes I believe that's in my Details Missed in Skellige video

[@cerysh15]

I'm here bc of my name.

[@theSnicKSA]

cerystbh Hmm, I didn't know that name is real.

[@ycylchgames]

the_SnicK_SA Its Welsh and quite common in Wales. I know a few girls called Cerys or Carys (their both basically the same name just different spelling).

[@ElNeegrooAlvarez]

Im black af boiiiiiiiiiii

[@lightsadear9540]

Svanrige is a most badass character. He is honourable man either with crown or not. If he became a king he is the one who unite all clan in Skellige. If he not. He still honestly and honored even it make his mom be punished and he must lost his rightfully for the throne and has been banished for his mom sins. It any way I can save Craite clan form died in Nilfgaardian battle but Svanrige become a king?

[@seanmarchman9105]

Cerys is the best choice tbh. Svanrige will lose against nilfgaard.

[@ZackFlairr]

Especially if ciri becomes queen jeez Cerys as a ally since they are sister and letting her patrol the water jeez

[@kwazooplayingguardsman5615]

Sean Marchman not if radovid rules the north :)

[@Miuranger1]

Cerys will lose against them idiot.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Kako Mohammed not as bad as this guy as they undergo a bloody civil war, plus with Ciri as empress's she won't go to war with cerys

[@Chronically_ChiII]

Iron Wolf 100% true. And Roche ruling over Temeria.. and Triss being the counselor of Kovir's king. Best ending

[@MachoMan_Vert]

Honestly didn't expect this to be the neutral outcome.