“And we’ll keep on knocking em down” or however that poor choice of quote you used goes.
@robtangent46645 ай бұрын
At 0:50, you could see parents training their kids to be criminals. Fare evasion is the first step.
@V451945 ай бұрын
BART is complicit, by choosing to not arrest and prosecute fare evaders. It's a tiny part of a much bigger picture of moral decay, in a society where a tax cheating fraudster and convict is somehow seen as upstanding, caring and smart, and worthy of being President again. Cheating not only is the new normal, it is in fact celebrated.
@pcatful5 ай бұрын
That's sad. Next step: I was walking by our little neighborhood park a few weeks ago and a woman and two kids were breaking bottles out of a bag against a wall . She was showing a girl of about 4 or 5 how to throw the bottle so it would break. When I called them on it they were just rude and wouldn't stop, including the little boy about 10.
@amtravelingservice44005 ай бұрын
@@pcatful worthless humans . just taking up space
@IslamIqra55 ай бұрын
It’s not that deep 😂
@Gfysimpletons5 ай бұрын
It starts in the womb
@V451945 ай бұрын
Either enforce fare collection or make BART free for everyone. The current situation rewards cheaters and penalizes honest people. Worse, it teaches young people that cheating is "smart" and honesty is for morons - not exactly what a public agency should be doing.
@SirMegaManNeoX5 ай бұрын
Do you, did you not know how politicians think?
@trvst59384 ай бұрын
If they taxed even 10% of tax dodging banks in NYC it would be free. 💀 Trump was hardly the only one committing fraud.
@andrewjacobs48323 ай бұрын
You think the situation on BART is bad now. Just wait until it's free? Total chaos.
@paulcrescenti55815 ай бұрын
Seems like the wrong video title. More like . . . “Lack of Enforcement Against Criminal Fare Evaders force BART to spend millions to install Upgraded Gates.”
@davinxi59265 ай бұрын
Cindy’s Chavez is the one response since she’s the executive of the board
@U237215 ай бұрын
Adding engineering controls would probably perform better than patrols. Criminals will just watch till their eyes are turned, or take advantage of areas outside transit that are starved for enforcement by adding more here. Automation will never get tired or distracted and is a one time buy vs bi weekly with annual raises, overtime, and benefits.
@paulcrescenti55815 ай бұрын
@@U23721 I am not against engineering controls. They are one facet of the “Three Es”. There is a certain level of utility in positivity identifying the criminal element that are trying to access the system. The identification from these enforcement contacts will make finding perpetrators easier as they commit other crimes within the transportation system. Ignoring crimes by the transportation authority is a big fail.
@doujinflip5 ай бұрын
Wages to pay for effective human security are way too prohibitive.
@paulcrescenti55815 ай бұрын
@@doujinflip Without effective Law Enforcement l guess we must expect the collapse of many facets of the public transportation system in the next few years as unless you are of military age and physical condition, it will become too dangerous for most to consider using for routine travel. This is already evidenced by the decreasing number of riders within the BART system. Closing the system will save money for all parties involved except the public.
@rbzsfg5 ай бұрын
How about random, undercover BART Police, ready to give out citations to fair evaders? Oh, of course not. It makes too much sense to do that.
@curiouspenguin68875 ай бұрын
And people will pay those citations, right? Better to prevent the revenue loss up front.
@theWZZA5 ай бұрын
@@curiouspenguin6887 No they won't, but there has to be some check on lawlessness in BART. Station agents are too afraid to do anything because they are alone with no backup.
@pcatful5 ай бұрын
They are there.
@davinxi59265 ай бұрын
@@pcatful how many
@palatialslumlord49385 ай бұрын
@@pcatfulAnd they're arresting black men for eating sandwiches, who paid for their ticket.
@jasonlucas23285 ай бұрын
I just returned from Japan. The gates at subway or train stations in Japan often don't close, and passengers still tap to pay. Japan lacks a particular group of people, and the culture is different.
@V451945 ай бұрын
By "particular group of people" you mean people like Sam Bankman-Fried, Elizabeth Holmes and Donald J. Trump, right? Shameless fraudsters and cheats who think honesty is for suckers?
@theWZZA5 ай бұрын
@@jasonlucas2328 poor people?
@math4life955 ай бұрын
Based on who I saw fare evading, I would say that the Japanese lack poor and/or selfish Americans.
@halfdohm5 ай бұрын
Extreme cultural difference. I applaud the Japanese.
@johnc18735 ай бұрын
@@theWZZA you know what kind of people he's referring to.
@brentsummers73772 ай бұрын
Speaking as a tourist I found riding BART a pleasure. Trains were clean & fast. In over a week I never saw any riders that made me feel unsafe or want to move to another car. However, I rode during the day at non peak times & never at night. What I did see a LOT of was fare evasion. Usually someone vaulting over a fare gate next to the one I was using.
@LtKaiser5 ай бұрын
If they are willing to drop 90 million for these new gates, it must mean they calculated that their estimated losses due to gate hoppers is over that amount. Insane.
@alphax47854 ай бұрын
Nah, it's all Other People's Money that flows from an endless spigot.
@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq2 ай бұрын
BART estimates that fare evasion costs them 15 million per year
@TohaBgood27 күн бұрын
@@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq 15-25% million per year. These gates will pay for themselves in 4-6 years.
@chibba5 ай бұрын
took them 10 years to do this and only 2 stations are done lmao. What a joke.
@theWZZA5 ай бұрын
I agree, too little, too late. And they need a police presence to deter fare evasion and other bad behavior on BART.
@andreal26255 ай бұрын
They’ve been testing different kinds of
@theWZZA5 ай бұрын
@@andreal2625 they've been busy giving themselves raises.
@PsychoSpiral5 ай бұрын
@@theWZZA Too late? why? are they shutting down BART soon after? Are they closing stations?
@alexxzhangg5 ай бұрын
@@theWZZA yall in sf are so spoiled when it comes to subways. Come to la and not only is the metro made up of 50% questionable folks, but the police are too scared to board. I'm astounded that you guys even have working gates and subways that get cleaned 🤣
@SunnyWu5 ай бұрын
They'll just use the emergency exit. Seen that before.
@Blueeyedsoul19865 ай бұрын
Emergency exits won’t be available I’ll bet
@TohaBgood25 ай бұрын
There won't be any emergency exits anymore. The new fare gates automatically convert to emergency exits in the case of an emergency. All the gates just open when the alarm is pulled. The old emergency exits will be replaced by a new gate or welded shut. That's part of why BART chose this design in the first place!
@juicyfruit63114 ай бұрын
@@TohaBgood2Ah, there you are. I asked you several months ago where you were getting the information regarding all these Korean made gates. You never answered! Can you answer me?
@TohaBgood24 ай бұрын
@@juicyfruit6311 It's on their website. The company is called STraffic. It's a Samsung spin-off.
@kuyshina5 ай бұрын
$90,000,000 / 700 fate gates is $128,571 per fare gate. I suspect that this costs includes paying the workers for the installation and other services that involve the installation. I still find it overly expensive that each fare gate installation is $128,000. Reminder that the maintenance and operating expense to run these will be $2,000,000 / per year
@rcchin78975 ай бұрын
Dems will pocket the difference.
@ScienceNotFaith5 ай бұрын
It would be helpful to know how much revenue this will generate. In other words, how much are they losing to fare jumpers? Will be be a net gain?
@infernaldaedra5 ай бұрын
It definitely does not cost 2,000,000 a year to havea gate 😂
@TohaBgood25 ай бұрын
@@ScienceNotFaith About $25 million is estimated to be lost to fare evasion each year on BART, so these will pay off in just a few years! If those estimates are correct. But the data from the West Oakland demo site suggests that the number is much higher! If BART can get 10% more fare revenue at all the stations with the new gates like they did at the demo station at West Oakland then they'll get something closer to $50-80 million! So full payout in less than two years!
@cooltwittertag5 ай бұрын
@@rcchin7897they will pcoket the difference of standard market rate prices? So nothing? Impressive
@OPTesla5 ай бұрын
Right at civic center! Good job! , they going to walk to next stations in downtown area lol. At least something’s being done. Hopefully works good!
@KandiKlover5 ай бұрын
They’ll just climb over the top same as how they climbed over the border wall
@Johnnytotal5 ай бұрын
We have the smart gates in Stockholm, it doesn’t help. Also public transport is losing money aswell. 20% less than before the pandemic, it’s a failure in sociaity. If you can get away wo paying some will just do it every day. The fine over here is $150 But there aren’t enough controls or policeofficers around.
@DarkWolf5755 ай бұрын
It's about time, we need these new fare gates at BART. Fare evasion is the number 1 growing concern on public transportation systems like BART. 👍
@Ryan-he2qz5 ай бұрын
They shoukd have police standby beside the new installed doors. So you can screen them properly
@davinxi59265 ай бұрын
@@Ryan-he2qz standing post at 700 doors??? Waste of logistics
@georgeburns72515 ай бұрын
Police make $400k a year in SF. They are 2 percenters. Can’t waste their time watching gates.
@catmi30685 ай бұрын
I have seen that guy pushes the gate at Powell Street station. I was wondering how he did it.
@my32pints5 ай бұрын
Bart needs armed guards on every train to protect riders .
@HypocritesExposd5 ай бұрын
Would be just another excuse to increase fares to even more ridiculous levels.
@Saghetti5 ай бұрын
no they don't
@TohaBgood25 ай бұрын
They've recently introduced police foot patrols and BART did get about 1000x safer and cleaner since!
@juicyfruit63114 ай бұрын
@@TohaBgood2Really? Proof?
@fleabag2mr.1514 ай бұрын
Try a $500 fine for gate jumpers. Word will get around fast, and it will pay for the person writing the citations.
@coolinspirefunnybook12895 ай бұрын
nyc make a great gate for fare evasion but they keep the emergency exit easily access which actually the loophole.
@tobiasexarchopoulos7215 ай бұрын
Need these in LA! With expansion happening soon we need to invest in these.
@bemiatto675 ай бұрын
"What are you going to do? Are you going to arrest me? Are you going to give me a ticket?"
@JBigjake5 ай бұрын
Yes!
@newmobile14555 ай бұрын
I am just going to call you a democrat
@TohaBgood25 ай бұрын
Yeah, they literally have fare inspectors that will give you a ticket patrolling the train now.
@soapa42795 ай бұрын
I was going to make a joke but this is a step in the right direction.
@gatblau15 ай бұрын
Good start. You should also have security at every gate so people don’t start to destroy the new gates, which I’m sure they will figure out how to do eventually.
@samoryTure4 ай бұрын
Looks much better than the ones at nyc mta.
@totesgene5 ай бұрын
One minute in - teaching your young kids to steal. Great parenting.
@cds19575 ай бұрын
It’s about time
@mtanyctrainatlantamartatra71644 ай бұрын
Curious is NYC subway going to do the Samething
@no-damn-alias5 ай бұрын
In Munich not a single station has gates and fare evasion hovers around 2-3% at random ticket checks.
@TohaBgood27 күн бұрын
Because they have insanely aggressive fare inspectors.
@no-damn-aliasКүн бұрын
@@TohaBgood2 nope, I live here and haven't seen a ticket inspector for years. I mean they do checks and that's where they get there values from.
@TohaBgood2Күн бұрын
@@no-damn-alias I have seen multiple fare checks per week when I lived in Stuttgart.
@alileevil5 ай бұрын
Money to install gates to collect a fare, but no money for platform barriers that can keep commuters safe.
@BrentKamrath-p2s4 ай бұрын
Awesome!!! Finally!!
@robertlunderwood5 ай бұрын
People will just piggyback with these fare gates.
@ylsflv5 ай бұрын
Yup haha happened to me in Greece and it will definitely happen here too
@mikemiller6595 ай бұрын
which people?
@HiThisIsMine5 ай бұрын
Happens all the time in NY and they already have these gates
@TohaBgood25 ай бұрын
@@HiThisIsMine No they don't. They have a different model from a different vendor. These gates have a computer vision system that can detect bikes and wheelchairs and... fare evaders trying to piggyback.
@TohaBgood25 ай бұрын
The gates have a built-in computer vision system that detects that and simply doesn't open the gate if two people are trying to enter.
@gesnow4 ай бұрын
Why are they not checking tickets randomly on the subway, if you do not have a ticket charge them. BC trans does that…
@Michael-kj5cn3 ай бұрын
Yeah I have a question, what if there is an emergency at the Bart station how would people get out if there are "High-tech gates" Is there an emergency feature?
@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq2 ай бұрын
Yes
@twistedhillbilly61575 ай бұрын
Gavin pretending to care
@dancemaniac38685 ай бұрын
I hope they do this with all stations to keep crazies and criminals out.
@stickynorth5 ай бұрын
Gates won't work. Classical music will though... Bach is like garlic to a vampire... Edmonton Symphony Orchestra recordings are now being used on loop 24/7 in our subway stations to deter druggo's and psycopaths from making the tunnels and platforms home and so far so good a few months in... Haven't heard of nearly the same level of manslaughtery mayhem that made me stop using it a few years back...
@DakotaFord5925 ай бұрын
When I lived in New York City I saw kids jumping over the subway thing.. I realized that locals didn't pay.
@sneakerjockCA5 ай бұрын
Those won’t work. Metal turn style floor to ceiling like NYC are needed. Also, walls to prevent hopping inside the system are needed.
@nybiggs4 ай бұрын
NYC native here... those old full length turnstyle gates are very rare and no new ones have been installed in decades. They don't allow anyone who needs more space to enter, be it large bags, bikes, or wheelchairs. Instead NYC just spent millions on 2/3 length gates which people figured out could easily be bypassed by reaching over at an angle and triggering the exit sensors with your hand. The BART design looks far superior.
@TohaBgood27 күн бұрын
Those are utterly useless because they require by law to have a permanently open emergency gate. The new gates that BART chose do not require separate emergency gates to be kept open.
@halfdohm5 ай бұрын
$90m dollars to replace 700 gates...Hmmm, that's ~$129K per gate. Someone is getting ripped off.
@eMDiKhamPha5 ай бұрын
Or pocketed the money
@nickoli01015 ай бұрын
It's more than just paying for a gate, it's also contracting companies for planning, design, and insitaltion, as well as labor.
@rcchin78975 ай бұрын
@e : CA Dems are learning a lot from their CCP masters.
@doujinflip5 ай бұрын
@@nickoli0101 Right, it's not just raw parts that were standardized decades ago. This is basically a new build, like every other public transit project that Americans refuse to create and enforce technical standards on.
@steveschurr59675 ай бұрын
What I see with the new gates is people waiting by the gate and scooting in closely behind somebody who paid. They don't prevent that and it's actually a little scary to have someone so closely follow you through.
@michaelwarren23915 ай бұрын
Not mentioned - how much is fare evasion costing BART? Need that to see if the $90 million plus annual maintenance and upkeep is worth it. There must have been a cost-benefit analysis performed.
@tventures25 ай бұрын
people are still going to find ways to jump the fare, even with these advanced gates. these upgrades are not necessarily the answer!
@ScienceNotFaith5 ай бұрын
@@tventures2 May not be "the" answer, but if it's a net positive in revenue, I don't see why anyone should complain. Doing something that doesn't solve the problem 100% is better than doing nothing at 0%.
@lookitskazzy5 ай бұрын
It's also for safety, not just for fare evasion..fare evaders and criminal activity tends to intersect quite a bit
@brayanbarreramtaproductions5 ай бұрын
Sad That NYC Dosent Have That Only 2 Stations Not All 472
@Grillinnap5 ай бұрын
Wish MTA would do the same in LA
@Blueeyedsoul19865 ай бұрын
Hopefully this helps people understand they have to pay the toll
@he1nz575 ай бұрын
In Germany, everything is on the honor system and they have no problems
@enjoystraveling5 ай бұрын
Sometimes there’s people that get on without paying. An acquaintance of mine that knows better, didn’t have money with her to buy a ticket and just got on, but she was out of luck that day and she had to pay fine. Plus they asked for her ID to write her up.
@alubto4 ай бұрын
How is that safe in case of fire?
@chuckxu59105 ай бұрын
Why BART won’t install platform barriers?
@warrpedd5 ай бұрын
Because life is cheap.
@RicePho5 ай бұрын
Educate yourself, skytrain platform isn't designed for certain add on because of how long they were made ago.
@mrxman5815 ай бұрын
Expensive. They need to install all the new fare gates first.
@thedopplereffect005 ай бұрын
Why won't people just use common sense?
@maplenerd225 ай бұрын
If you have to ask this, then you're not very smart.
@renalove25375 ай бұрын
L.A. needs this
@Lytann5 ай бұрын
A lot more old people are going to get assaulted from behind when fare evaders push them through when they swipe.
@stickynorth5 ай бұрын
You should be happy they are using transit. I'd hate to imagine people like that behind the wheel...
@jenniferthomas53055 ай бұрын
Great idea to make them clear
@BeardMan014 ай бұрын
They'll just start doing what they do in NYC. They'll just open the emergency exit and let people in the back way. You'll never stop any of it.
@shrimboi89095 ай бұрын
Bart need to add escalators going down. Its ridiculous that u have to walked down the other end of the street to catch the elevator or find one going downward.
@fillup405 ай бұрын
About time.
@bombaybeach2085 ай бұрын
I can't believe it's taken California this long to get with the program. It's not like this in Europe. You pay or you don't get in.
@aa777flyer5 ай бұрын
In Germany you can literally walk on any train, s-bahn, ubahn without a ticket. Dont get caught but you can do it. There are no gates on trains in Germany.
@enjoystraveling5 ай бұрын
@@aa777flyer that’s true you can walk on the street car without paying also however every so often there’s a man with the uniform to check everyone’s tickets and if you don’t have a ticket, you will get a big fine and also asked for your ID to be written up also. I know because one of my friends who’s German got on without paying and she later told me about what happened to her. She usually pays, but that time she didn’t have money to buy a ticket with her so she thought she could get away with it.
@enjoystraveling5 ай бұрын
@@aa777flyer also if you get on a intercity Xpress or a S bahn without paying then you’ll definitely pay when the staff comes by and you’re actually have to pay more because it cost more paying on the train then if you had paid for a ticket in the first place.
@RafaelUnplugged5 ай бұрын
90mil. I wonder what that 11% increase in fares came out to and how long it would take to break even 😂
@damonhtoo5 ай бұрын
They had 4.1 million trips last month with an average fare of $4.43. So an 11% increase increases revenue by $2m/month. It would be repaid in about 5 years.
@mrxman5815 ай бұрын
@damonhtoo It would probably be repaid sooner because the percentage would go up as more stations got the new gates. Right now, people might be able to avoid the stations with the new gates, but not forever.
@mocheen48375 ай бұрын
Spending $90 million, but is running on $35 million in emergency state funds.
@andy_1825 ай бұрын
89 million is going to contractors pockets to enrich city halls friends
@mikeydude7505 ай бұрын
@@mrxman581another important fact to consider is increased safety on the trains, increasing confidence in the system and encouraging people to ride again. Fare evaders are far more likely to be doing other crimes on the train and keeping them out will make it safer to ride BART
@zerocool9114 ай бұрын
What's going to stop them from going to the next station n hop on
@John-pz6nm5 ай бұрын
$128,000 per gate 🤔 How many fare evaders need to be stopped before the break even point?
@whoknowswhocares8855 ай бұрын
Roughly a month.
@John-pz6nm5 ай бұрын
@@whoknowswhocares885 Provide a link to support your narrative That would be 25000 fare evaders in a month
@railworksamerica5 ай бұрын
Ain’t stopping me 😂😂
@mobettaspice5 ай бұрын
I’m here in NYC thinking it was bad here on New York City transit.
@jkk29405 ай бұрын
bart isnt worried, newsom will bail em out
@WildWildWeasel5 ай бұрын
Reminds me of City 17
@binki6115 ай бұрын
Make it free (taxpayer funded) and be done with it. The few extra bucks to do that won’t be that much and it satisfies the mandates of the governor to use public transportation
@memmener5 ай бұрын
Every time I see news segment about fare evasion I chuckle a little; 90% of the evaders are from the same demographic but the news always tries so hard to get anyone but “them” on camera
@jaquanpowell46055 ай бұрын
🤦🏿♂️ y’all make everything about race its honestly sad that all y’all see is skin color
@Gypsum1795 ай бұрын
Another foreign troll that has never been to the US.
@hyphydan5 ай бұрын
@@jaquanpowell4605it's behavioral patterns Jaquan. Everyone notices, not just "y'all".
@jaquanpowell46055 ай бұрын
@@hyphydan smh then talk about everyone hopping Bart not just one demographic
@mcrichards6945 ай бұрын
At $90 million it’s probably cheaper and more strategic just to lower the cost of fares or make BART free.
@ChrisCoombes5 ай бұрын
Why not have staff at the ticket barriers?
@doujinflip5 ай бұрын
Too expensive.
@ChrisCoombes5 ай бұрын
@@doujinflip isn’t there a legal requirement to have staff at ticket barriers? What about people needing help? Someone gets stuck in the barrier or antisocial behaviour?
@infoatnorcal23045 ай бұрын
hate Bart, always smells like pee. Especially the elevators smh.
@HugoMaceda-o7d5 ай бұрын
LOL IN HOLLYWOOD AS WELL 😦
@RealSergiob4665 ай бұрын
That’s just like in New York City
@thefourhorsemen915 ай бұрын
If BART is running that big a deficit, then it seems like its services are really not needed. If the city wants to make it work, privatize it.
@hayabusa275 ай бұрын
Its still a homeless train from 8pm to 12am 😂
@ger13nunyah565 ай бұрын
Police presence is also a must
@bobChristianson5 ай бұрын
what a sick country
@Robisme5 ай бұрын
With all the money that the city earned the last 20years, how are they at negative $35million?
@michaelpalus79295 ай бұрын
Come to Minnesota, we have a HONOR SYSTEM. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🙂😂🤣😂🤣
@Gene1465 ай бұрын
BART and MUNI employees need to step up in arresting fare evaders. Just wait till the there are lesser trains and buses and public transit employees get laid off. Wake up people you’re going to suffer from this as well. It will trickle down.
@BigRingStumpy5 ай бұрын
Crazy idea.. Arrest people who evade fares, hold them in jail for 12 hours, then release them. I can assure you when people find out they have to waste 12 hours of time if they get caught, they'll stop breaking the law. Pretty sure that would cost less than the 90 million.
@louie24seven5 ай бұрын
Whoa, they put them in front of the elevators😮
@TheVlad4344 ай бұрын
Why don't they put regular police officers on stations who will be stopping people for not paying fare and writing them a citation? Once they see that police really fine people for evasion they will behave.
@kylewissman24694 ай бұрын
Find the loophole wait for somebody to pay to open up the gate and walk behind them
@ceasarmartinez84475 ай бұрын
I’ve used Bart for 35 years and I see fare evaders everyday and I’m sure Bart sees this all the time but the management condone it and doesn’t enforce the rules. It is a shame that it took them this long to do their jobs.
@Riri_7344 ай бұрын
I'm not from the US, why do they do that? Are the fares unaffordable?
@simobstein40845 ай бұрын
They going break it! In time!
@possiblyadog5 ай бұрын
Ah yes, spend 90 Million Dollars to stop fare evasion while their service stays abysmal. Why doesn't BART make a service worth paying for?
@pwp87375 ай бұрын
because it needs the revenue to do that, it's a never-ending cycle.
@juscallmeehx5 ай бұрын
What service are you talking about? Stopping fare evasion will decrease deplorables on trains so your life will be just. abit better.
@NeilTruick5 ай бұрын
I guess it's all a matter of perspective. I've lived in Los Angeles for the past 40+ years, but visited the Bay Area many times. I have _wished_ LA Metro was as pleasant an experience to ride as BART for as long as I can remember.
@UniquelyCritical5 ай бұрын
BART is making efforts to improve and people still complain... The public has been asking for better fare gates for a long time. Even though it shouldn't have taken this long, this is a step toward keeping drug users, panhandlers and smelly homeless off the trains which is what paying riders want. This is a win. Be happy.
@acenavarro73144 ай бұрын
do it with double door or a turn stiles gate
@timmmahhhh5 ай бұрын
I spent a week in LA a month ago where they need to do the same, and yes LA has a subway/light rail. Someone who's lived in the area for 20 years i met at O'Hare insisted LA didn't even though i watched a six year old KZbin video about it, didn't feel like arguing with her. The system is limited but they're seriously working on improving it.
@urbanshepherdgroup24184 ай бұрын
They need better than the new gates.
@PitsTasteGood5 ай бұрын
I like how West Oakland got the gates first... 😂 It makes sense ... But... Hey now POC's get to be first for something....
@johndeere34865 ай бұрын
This is a huge waste of money. The cost and maintenance will far outweigh fare collections.
@user-cz8do7xl8u5 ай бұрын
Enforcement of the existing laws.. Garnish the EBT and wages of fare evaders, you know, penalties.
@trainsimulatordriver4 ай бұрын
Those old gates were my nightmare on a project, air operated and we had to put a computer in them. That was fun. Not.
@andy_1825 ай бұрын
90 million dollars is crazy
@IslamIqra55 ай бұрын
I live in NYC and never pay for the train or the bus unless I have to( police standing around) 😆😁😁
@MrAresxy075 ай бұрын
How about you create gates anti homeless too 🤔
@diabloflare83044 ай бұрын
United freeloaders of America...
@mystica-subs5 ай бұрын
Will 90 million actually be recouped from revenues? Or would it have simply been cheaper to not spend 90 million and continue getting slightly less revenues?
@AbiyBattleSpell5 ай бұрын
bart casually admiting to not being acessible for yrs prior to this and they only cared when it mattered due to fare evasion...
@TAL1425 ай бұрын
BART used to make money. You can blame both the government and the BART. They are sort of the same thing. I am surprised anyone even pays fare at west Oakland.
@V451945 ай бұрын
BART has never "made" money, nor was it ever meant to. It has a farebox recovery ratio (percentage of *operating expenses* covered by fares) of 51%, which is pretty high by US standards but obviously nowhere close to fully covering operations, let alone capital projects like building new lines or upgrading existing ones, which rely on taxes plus state or federal grants. And yeah, BART is a special-purpose district, which means it is part of / type of "the government" - if it weren't, it wouldn't exist in the first place.
@TAL1425 ай бұрын
@@V45194 Fares made up 86% of BART's operating revenue in 2019. However, ridership dropped to 40% during the pandemic, and at its peak, BART could only cover 7% of its operating expenses with fares. BART often spend a lot of money in expansion and building paid parking structures. It almost make BART commute unaffordable and dangerous nowadays when you have to pay for parking and face drug addicts, criminals and homeless. Many people just decide to work from home or not use BART after the pandemic. BART could be at least break even in worse case scenario if they managed their budget but they didn't.
@blueisthebest5k3 ай бұрын
0:34 think ive seen that guy before...
@prparker59894 ай бұрын
How about testing the gates that have been installed first to make sure they actually work before you plum in for a total spend? 🤦♂
@porsche1875 ай бұрын
So does that mean when this project is complete that they will replace the useless station agents? Or is BART going to keep them around to further the false narrative of a “fiscal cliff”?
@tjaeoij3213 күн бұрын
They need to put these up in Oakland and have cops to ticket them all. The new gates are still too slow as well.
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket5 ай бұрын
This is what happens when your state culture is "gimme gimme, I shouldn't have to work for it." You will never see something like this in Japan, it's also pretty rare in Europe by comparison but it does happen. When you respect your community you show it, these people do not respect this community. All the state has to do is take some homeless people off the street, give them a job watching the gate for "Fare evaders" and give them the authority to arrest them. $1,500 fine per fare evasion. No need for expensive machines, and you've gotten some of the MANY homeless you have off the street. $90,000,000.00 to replace only 700 gates? Wow the tax payers are buying someone a new mansion. This reeks of state corruption. You could build 180 REALLY nice homes for that, you could build over 1,000 apartment units with that. No wonder everyone in California is homeless. I've been to Oakland before the pandemic, I literally couldn't go thirty feet without seeing a homeless person sleeping on the sidewalk, under the tree, behind a dumpster, etc.