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[@Just_F.e.e]

So many nuggets in this conversation! One thing Justin said about ideology is so true. I use to be a deeply entrenched Republican. One day we were going around knocking on people's doors to see who they planned on voting for and in that moment the Holy Spirit was like, 'Would you do the same and tell people about Me?" In that moment I stepped all the way back and realized it had become a form of idolatry, as Jackie mentioned. (this was my own personal conviction)

[@alexandrefurneribeiro3265]

Hah that’s not a personal conviction sis, that’s an objective reality that many American Christians don’t want to face :)

[@teshaboyd]

@@alexandrefurneribeiro3265 yep you're exactly right👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@7777Lace]

Good stuff folks! Good stuff!

[@jonathanchristman335]

👋 that was me. Deeply entrenched conservative. Hated the left because they promote such a godless society. Then I heard Holy Spirit say that Jesus called matthew and Simon the zealot and that I am a zealot. I still hold my convictions and political beliefs, some things softened like immigration policy, but Im not gunna kill over them nor hate democrats.

[@mochacola58]

Powerful!

[@dylanchan6051]

Beautiful demonstration of a gospel-centric, sociological dialogue. We need more of these in our everyday!!

[@ItsPriscillaB]

The separation of a political party from an individual persons views is critical so we don’t dehumanize each other, especially during election season. 25:43

[@danimotherofchickens479]

Right but regardless of the person inning, they are either furthering the Devils work and agenda, or at least trying to stand against it. As a Christian, you can't vote someone into office who would mock God, His creation and gender, or killing His children. So you have an obligation to speak out on these things in a way, and stand against a party trying to demoralize anything God ordained

[@femarie4449]

@@danimotherofchickens479 You don’t do that by dehumanizing the people who God created either.

[@chrislacy1990]

(21:50) “[Jesus] was a lamb, not a donkey!” - JHP 😂😂😂 Jokes aside, I’m encouraged by this video. I pray that we have more nuanced conversations in future political discussions. Why? Because nobody gets weaker the more they say “Yes!” to Jesus.

[@larapotter2159]

Yaaaaaaassssss!

[@Risper_Njagi]

😂😂😂😂

[@joannapilgrim]

Hello from Barbados 🇧🇧 My father and Pastor says this to our congregation 'all' the time- "We don't want you to be Bajan Christians; be Christian Barbadians." In other words, lead with your Christianity, put Christ first; choose Kingdom over culture.

[@SoulDeepZim]

Putting people in boxes has become the norm. Anything less is labelled as being a fence-sitter. We need to remember that humans are complex

[@debshirley6904]

I am pro life and I think that we as Believers need to focus mostly on the woman's situation, and support her for a good while, in order for her to give birth and beyond.

[@juanitamarievalencia8007]

I totally agree with you!

[@StopBeingVictimsItsNotGodly]

Nope! We need to attach it from the root. The culture. The best sexual music, the shows we watch, sexual liberation, lack of faith in public sector. We are teaching women it’s ok to be single mothers, no self control, no fruits of the spirit and this woke agendas.

[@debshirley6904]

@@StopBeingVictimsItsNotGodly True that! I agree

[@holyhasbeen]

This was very helpful for me. I stopped claiming to be a Democrat when Joe said if you don't vote for him you ain't black, which I felt was ignored by too many black true christians. Although I do not agree with the character of Trump, I did agree with many of his policy decisions and I would not vote for Joe. I need to watch this video a few more times because there was so much to learn and absorb from your comments. Thank you. I hope more blexit people will watch this. Listen, Learn and Love. Galatians all the way.

[@LM_2802]

If you need to choose between the lesser of two evils… choose none

[@dani8shawn]

"You kinda become your enemies effect you have contempt for them." Wow! That was a mouthful 🙌

[@beyesalty3864]

I absolutely love the wisdom Justin brought to this conversation. This is exactly the shift we need to bring relationships back to humanizing one another again. I’m a conservative Christian and the whole time he was talking I assumed Justin was too because I have similar thoughts that he expressed. When he revealed that he’s been a democrat his whole life, I was even more impressed that he has the communication skills to appeal to all. This is the way we used to chat before so much was available at our fingertips. Lots of folks think Trump was the start of the division, I blame social media. Because I’m conservative I was more into trump than Hilary & Obama, but I also have never sang the praises of Trump because he’s flawed as well. It’s very true that when you correct the folks on your same view points about their attitude toward the opposite political party that they aren’t kind. Or they assume you’re flipping. But I think this new generation of folks is all or nothing on ALL TOPICS. Like we have to totally agree or we’re “bad” or “weak” or “hateful” Again, LOVED THIS CONVO!

[@bettymk1]

Yes, yes, yes!!! You expressed what I wasn't able to articulate. And we definitely need more of these conversations.

[@jazminetalley1246]

i love what justin said about blackness being constructed as the opposite of whiteness, i study criminology and sociology and it’s something that comes up a lot in my work. this was such a great and nuanced conversation, thank you guys!

[@wayNAY87]

Aeropastle was if you struggling financially..” hahahahaha

[@prolificpursuit]

I love the balance they bring to Jesus PLUS politics.

[@dforte6195]

God is so affirmed through these 30 minute sessions with The Perrys. This one truly spoke to me because I just started focusing my prayers and my devotion to the trinity in 2023 and I been on the planet since 1975. I’m late but I’m glad God is always right on time. This 30 minutes right here…this one right chea…timeless.

[@iswimZay]

Jackie be calling everything demonic😂

[@JustB.Spriggs]

Yo I’m weak Aeropostale was my go to cause Hollister was too expensive. 😂😂😂😂

[@Lizandherstories]

"Until you show someone you care about them, why do they care about what you gotta say"

[@FireBride]

Wowsers!! I Like how yall just exposed the idol of politics!! ✝️

[@kennywesley]

This waa wonderful! We really need a solid third party where Christians could meet together in the middle.

[@cammiemayfield9725]

Yes please!!!

[@bettymk1]

Yes!!!

[@lmarie81]

Agree!

[@ItsPriscillaB]

This podcast is so necessary it moves me every time. I may have to do another reaction video. Love the Perry’s 🙌🏾

[@leratontshingila3692]

I absolutely LOVED this! People in SA are so invested in what happens in America and this kinda "boxing" of people has made its way into our conversations. "Oh you go to church xy? That means you think xy is right" "Oh you think women shouldn't have the right to choose?... that means you hate gay people" It's like you're not allowed to have your own unique ideas if it doesn't fit into the political box you're assigned to.

[@vuyokaziadelaidetshitshiba1123]

you are ANC you support corruption, you are DA you hate black people nuance has left the conversion altogether and the purpose to serve in politics is gone. POWER is our currency

[@leratontshingila3692]

You're so right sis! Yhu we are losing the plot yazi!

[@mrs.liaclark4683]

I’m glad that Justin spoke to what is now being aligned to democratic political party and how it’s now synonymous with being black. I literally spoke the same words to a family member regarding how people make it a personal attack when you speak about their political side.

[@tjrhodes727]

What a thought-provoking, yet convicting conversation that has left me with SO many questions and at the same time given me answers. I’ve never been a political person but just as this brother has pointed out, I’d get extremely defensive of my political party when in conversation. SMH. I am so WOWED at how easily idols are adopted in our lives! I need a part 2! May God bless you Perry’s for bringing the gospel to the darkest corners of our innermost hearts…things we didn’t even know were hidden. Maaan! 🤯

[@brittaniawitter6424]

"We just want to belong to something or somebody" THIS!

[@ivyadedoyin1459]

In a lot of ways the republican party to me while meaning well on the stance of abortion can be pharisee like in pursuit of the right ideals in the wrong manner. Being an American is becoming a religion itself such an important convo Jesus calls us higher than our 'tribe'

[@HowWeDoBetter]

Very high level conversation, I do believe politics itself has and always will be a system put in place to divide the people. Whether you’re a democrat or republican Christian you are now divided regardless if you see the other as a person or not, you are still voting against them and by default this dilutes Christianity. My question to this conversation is, why do I have to have a political party to get to know someone on a deeper level about their ideology and preach the gospel? Because when you involve yourself in politics you are just by default picking a side, whether or not you want to understand the other side’s ideology, if you aren’t going to vote with them you vote against them regardless of how you try and frame it which in itself is you participating in division.

[@elijahwalker7]

It makes my day every time you all post. I’m thankful to the Lord for you two!

[@chassidyswann8951]

Jesus' life had political implications, but to say he was political would be inaccurate.

[@tamara35758]

This is POWERFUL!!! The concept that there is a political, and I would say also economically motivated, objective to “reshape blackness in the image of secular progressivism”!!! 😱😱😨 crazy!! “See how easily manipulated that is?”!!!

[@lizzsgold]

This was so good! Currently in Chicago for my doctorate in clinical psychology. so this helped to put things I was feeling/thinking into words. Thank you for shining a light, praying more grace for y’all and ask that you do the same for me!

[@djcbbb9715]

This is such a rich discussion. I would love to be able to honestly sit down with people and be able to have conversations like this but the IDOLATRY is REAL in these streets. I do think Relationship is key to opening the door. Relationship & Patience A divergence from whiteness!!!!! Lord brother SPEAK

[@ladydean87]

I know I'm a month late but this was great. I appreciate all of the nuggets given.. ..the silly side of me, once Justin began to speak, heard 🗣🗣"MARCUS!!!" From Tasha on "Why Did I Get Married", yelling at him. He sounds like "Marcus" to me.

[@alicia_nicole444]

Thank you. I was like his voice sounds like somebody in a movie. Thank you. Now I can pay attention to the pod. Lord Jesus it was bothering that I couldn’t think of his name. Yesss, Marcus 😂😂😂. Okay back to the episode

[@annetecson]

8:48 "Ideological tribes they dont want you to humanize what they just want to be a character" 🔥

[@chrysanthemums4963]

Ppl glorify their allegiance to their imposed political party and leave God in the process. This is where deception snatches ppl up and next thing you know you're blindly working against God with a gov that's against Him.

[@queenri313]

Thank you dearly to everyone that play a role in making this production possible!!

[@bettymk1]

Thank you x 10 for this conversation! You all spoke my heart!

[@rebekahearly1144]

“Amen, but…” - I feel like that should be said more often. I’m only half way through but this conversation is so helpful! I’m about to become a policy analyst so I’m trying to soak it all up.

[@TheJovialDarling]

I will definitely return to listen to this conversation again. Thank you for this!

[@marthemendo1643]

Loved this episode. Very very enlightening, informative, engaging, and necessary. Thank you for having this guest on. We need these nuanced convos abt these difficult and divisive topics

[@cwnj40]

Awesome conversation! Thank you 🙏🏾

[@knelson2019]

Yet again another dope discussion with two of my favorite teachers!!!!!

[@being_abulele]

So fascinating, a really empowering and thoughtful conversation. 🙏🏾

[@madisonLNM]

This conversation is golden!!! Great episode !!!

[@kelsiechallenger4050]

thank you for this conversation!!

[@coutureleotards]

I always saw that Jesus spoke above politics because they always had an agenda when they approached him. Instead of answering their questions to agree he taught them to think biblically. He always knew his audience well and always took them back to the foundation of the idea and worked from there. Jesus was not a politician he was a master of explaining the word of God to those who didnt know or thought they knew...."He was a Lamb, not a Donkey" 😂.

[@arethavanhorn7010]

This conversation is rich. I so appreciate the wisdom and truth they share in love! Blessings to you all!

[@khanyingobese1007]

This conversation!!! Oh my word I’ve gained new perspective and I’m so thankful for this chat. God bless y’all

[@jenniolson2207]

Thank-you for this talk! Wow! So rich! Here’s some general thoughts that stood out to me as powerful! I can not, not see them as humans… We are not just our position we are humans. If we listen to those we disagree with we humanize them. we may even gain mutuel respect the ability to truly converse to move in a direction together through growth, through knowing each others stories…be curious about your neighbour, ask questions, get to know them rather then assume you know where they are coming from. That humility to find out about people will increase love , hey and spread the gospel!

[@paulamoreno9007]

Absolutely LOVE this. Very educational in so many spheres

[@ItsPriscillaB]

“I’m not someone ‘in comparison to someone else.’ “

[@maritzarivera91]

Awesome conversation and spot-on when he brought up Progressivism at the 26:26 mark 💯👏🏽 I truly appreciate this insight and the And campaign, God bless you all 🙏🏽 Lol at the Freddy Kreuger hat comment 😅

[@overthinkingchristian8732]

Listening now & can't wait to share! Thanks for your voices in Christianity today.

[@ellie1543]

So helpful and encouraging!

[@ComptonBloomsFarmerFlorist]

You guys are so refreshing. I’ve never resonated with another couple so much. You balance freedom in Christ with biblical values and keep it real 💯 I loved his response when you asked him what he wanted to promote, like ..nah, thank you guys for just being you. Obedient, surrendered and sharing it with others in practical ways. I love how you even addressed how people will hear that and immediately disregard him for being democrat. I don’t particularly side with any political party but still searched my heart about how I felt when you called it out. He spoke truth and was so graceful, I appreciated his point of view. There is true discernment here and you show it in (almost haha) all of your episodes. But grace for the times you don’t because I’m there with ya just being human and doing my best to give it all to Jesus. Your wisdom is 🔥 and glorifying to the Lord.

[@wendyfain346]

Spoken so well, Justin. Lots to think about. Thank you

[@maddieziari6974]

Wow! This is so good. Thank you for your hearts and how you're shining Biblical wisdom on these topics. I needed this podcast. God bless ya'll!

[@famatalegemah697]

Keep this conversation going, it is necessary!

[@ivyadedoyin1459]

I so appreciate this convo I said when tribes collide especially the idea that my tribe or political ideology is my identity. I was afraid to share my views for feelings of being attacked.

[@evelynkissi884]

Justin! Good to "meet" you after hearing you many mornings on Carmen's show.

[@armondbrown5464]

So good! God is for His Word! If my people who are called by MY NAME Would humble themselves........we have to do that by His Grace

[@dannaestanley]

Good talk ❤

[@karenpetty8552]

Awsome wisdom 🙌🏾

[@pierrealexis5241]

This is a hard one I don’t believe a real Christian can become the president

[@ckks0nyoutube]

Wow, more of this young man, LORD🙏🏿

[@Rachellen1]

So good ♥️♥️♥️

[@elizabethadams3790]

I really love the depth you speak on these topics! Thank you for teaching me more about gods word and helping me grow closer with God. Please make a video about what it says in the Bible about women wearing head coverings and women speaking in the church. I’ve recently learned about Christian veiling! Maybe you could also just talk about what the Bible says a good Christian woman looks like and acts like with a couple current day examples in either celebrities or politicians or even KZbinrs!

[@anitaike9031]

This was good. Am a Nigerian and we have political parties that don't have strong ideologies per se but I could see through all that Justin said. Our ideologies here have been based on religion, tribe and ethnicity but we hope the Presidential Elections on 25th Feb will be a turning point. ✌️

[@rebekahearly1144]

Praying for Nigeria this election season ❤

[@anitaike9031]

@Rebekah Early Thanks 😊 We need God to come through because citizens are literally on the knife edge.

[@LadyDee2604]

Such a great discussion.

[@dforte6195]

This spoke to me on several levels. Very enlightening.

[@gabriellawayua]

The wokeness part 💯💯

[@ritaashimwe2654]

Right like RIGHT?!?!

[@cassandratartter9935]

When the home aesthetic is just as good as the verbal content. Your home is beautiful!

[@joewilliams6927]

Great conversation and explanation of why we should be at least attentive to politics. I am reminded of teachings frrom Myles Munroe about The Kingdom of God is not a religion but it is both relationship and politics. He is our High Priest and King!

[@mizzyoung9836]

This was so good!!👍🏾👍🏾

[@sarahebeid6382]

So, so good. I love this.

[@silverback7783]

One time when I was a uber driver I drove a woman to hospital I found out she was getting a abortion I told her if she gave birth i would adopt the baby and I wasn't joking had she said yes I would of done it. Everybody wantst to talk about responsibility nobody wants to take responsibility she said no, and really she would of said no, no matter what i said, and i am pissed and don't accept this❤ injustice I simply do not. She didn't even want to give birth because it was too much responsibility on her body it would change her body. My wife today is holy she has given birth to three children regardless if the third was very hard on her body, and this is Mother's day and she deserves praise for her sacrifice under the Lord.

[@ServantofJesus247]

Can ya do a video talking about natural Affection in the body of Christ. Many people shy away from embrace in the black community but other cultures have no problem with hugs. So your peers greet you with a holy embrace? Could the lack of this type of affection from family and brethren be a reason why many flock to sexual immorality

[@StumblingThroughItAll]

Good words all! In Christ!

[@jjjutika2594]

When you see the Imago dei in everyone you will see their humanity. We are our brothers keeper.I’m not for a party, I’m for the least of these 🙏

[@lateefa260]

Well said

[@charlottebarclay4631]

Love you guys

[@MychaelStarke]

Man this was so good!

[@carladraffen9145]

“Just say what y’all do!?!?” 😂😂😂

[@latasha3315]

Nope! I know the video ended yet I'ma need a few more 30s with Justin Giboney and The And Campaign, please. This was too good of a conversation to be over!

[@mrs.camilliajones3560]

Jackie was talking about miskeen. My brother & husband loved that brand! 😂

[@machellovelivelife658]

"You kinda become your enemy when you have contempt with them" -Justin Giboney

[@arianebutler2779]

This is so good!

[@imgrateful7142]

Good interview and Girbaud has been around quite a long time.

[@chg1107]

Bring him back on in another episode please 👌🏾

[@inspirationsbycassandrafay4629]

Powerful

[@jwilsonYa]

lived in the projects in brooklyn and I had 3pair.lol

[@alanajenelle2214]

They don’t appreciate Jackie’s sense of humor . LOL 😂. I would have lost it when she said ," he was a lamb not a donkey “. 😭😭😂😂

[@tierrasardine562]

❤this one

[@the.realdaughter]

Um... thank you guys for this... truly

[@mariliabatista5250]

That was so good!

[@AfroTae]

This was a good video especially as a Black radical leaning towards communist/socialist who champions for the oppressed and marginalized communities. At first I was super leftist and went with what the world thought was right. But now I align myself with what Jesus would want. My “controversial” view on abortion is it should be available in extreme health crisis and health crisis to the mother. Like Preston said people do not focus on why why women get abortions and I believe we should focus on funding communities and given women resources and options to want to keep the baby. My main motivation for politics IS helping my neighbor.

[@danimotherofchickens479]

You can't do that, and vote into office a party who is attacking everything God created and what he deemed right. You can't support a party that mocks Him, His image, in the name of "helping your neighbor" ...you are not helping your neighbor by paving their road to hell.

[@femarie4449]

@@danimotherofchickens479 So basically you’re just throwing Jesus on everything you think is right…got it.

[@Crosswalker91711]

I embrace conservatism

[@artforchrist5065]

@@femarie4449 No they never said that at all.. lol I’m confused.

[@wayNAY87]

Wow the last part about the conflation of blackness and liberalism…yes yes yes!!!!

[@ljones269]

Thats hilarious 😂😂I had the Marithe Francois Girbaud bookbag shorts pants and a few shirts 🩳 👕 👖 and i was dirt broke growing up 😭 😅i loved tha look of that name brand 😂❤ i love you brought that up 💓 nostalgia

[@tamikaharrington362]

I love this

[@davecruz5026]

epic conversation

[@shellycervantes4900]

26:30 is the business! That has been the most aggravating thing about wokeness. A legitimate issue within the Body has been hijacked.

[@melliemel32]

…yes, but what about preachers who preach their political standpoints over the pulpit? I don’t care which side, I just think that does detract and distract from the Gospel. BTW-thank you for this. I’m going to check Justin’s group out. Looking for a group that sees the work of Jesus FIRST! ☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽🙏🏽✝️