Witness Loses Patience with Defense Attorney in Missing Mom Murder Trial

Court wrapped up early Friday afternoon following the testimony of retired forensic examiner, Anita Vailonis. She walked jurors through the evidence she processed in this case, and what those findings meant. Defense attorney Jon Schoenhorn questioned Vailonis and the two had a few interesting exchanges throughout the line of questioning. Michelle Troconis is on trial for her alleged involvement in the 2019 murder and disappearance of Jennifer Dulos.
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[@elizaleroux9173]

It's a barrel of garbage.

[@gayemarianesfox2405]

Bahaha!

[@GeeTheeStallion]

I'm just gonna start saying this. Randomly. In conversations.

[@prokesuk]

In my mind I heard it as her commenting on his defense.

[@elizaleroux9173]

@@prokesuk No.. listen again

[@FaithM1976]

Hahaha that was a good answer!

[@Southernheathen13]

I have tried for weeks to watch this trial, but this defense attorney makes it impossible. 99% of the time he doesn’t ever get to his point or any point.

[@TruCrimeQueen]

Same!

[@tinab3627]

I don’t even watch his part most of the time.

[@Southernheathen13]

@@tinab3627 I try to watch all of a trial when I watch one but this one has been impossible. I watch after it’s over at 1.5 speed.

[@Sara-xk1ns]

I just watched this entire video and I still don’t know the point he was trying to make. I feel for the jury on this one.

[@kikistjohn21]

He is terrible & so annoying!

[@curiousnetty534]

His attitude changed after she stood up to him.

[@DebC7777]

Perfect witness! She gives her own testimony in response to the attorney. Does NOT allow the attorney to twist or mislead her findings. Gives impression of credibility and competence. Leaves the attorney looking like he’s grasping and out of her league.

[@LoveyCee]

And She is way out of his range of intellect clearly.

[@SS11660]

Trying so hard to make her say yes or no to agree with him. Thank goodness she was not intimidated. It's a barrel of garbage ! 😂

[@COG78]

This lawyer is ridiculous he has no clue but trying to find blame elsewhere 🙄

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

Forensic examiners, detectives, courts, and LE all make huge mistakes every day destroying innocent peoples lives with no repercussions.

[@Nursing609]

amen

[@phasis]

That defense attorney has clearly never used a household sponge to clean a house.

[@lisasmith7066]

😊💯

[@deborahshipman8888]

😂

[@HeadNtheClouds]

His Mom comes over to clean & lay out his clothes

[@childtimematters513]

👍

[@CityBohoGirl]

Haha

[@patriciahulett4411]

This defense attorneys plan to keep his client out of jail is by making this line of questioning so long that people forget why they are there and by boring them to sleep.

[@traceylok675]

But risks the jury not liking him. "Oh no not him again!!"😞

[@sabinakuzak3790]

😂

[@karlad4082]

OMG! I can’t believe I just watched 23 minutes of the defense probing absolutely nothing 😫

[@jessicablevins601]

Hey, on 2xs speed it's less than 12 minutes of nonsense! 🤷‍♀️😂

[@buddy345]

When you’re charged with murder and your lawyer is afraid of the witness he’s cross-examining, it’s time to start getting fitted for a striped jumpsuit.

[@ironmaven1760]

hahaha😅....get those plastic slippers ready!

[@FaithM1976]

🤣🤣🤣

[@crinklecut3790]

I’m impressed with her level of expertise and professionalism. She really knows her stuff and demonstrates it with confidence and authority.

[@SG-bw5xs]

Indeed. “It’s a barrel of garbage.” 2:24

[@UnathiQwesha-lg2gp]

👌

[@barbaravaters4989]

Yes! Shut that ignorant line of questioning down! Ridiculous. Good for her.

[@mjdelaney1]

To be sure, the arrogance of this defense lawyer in his feeble quest for reasonable doubt is not appreciated by, or working with, the jury.

[@yogabee2222]

It's painful 😮😅

[@AidaShawJ.D.]

How do you know what the jury feels? Isn’t it more accurate, that YOU are not buying it?

[@heatherbroski6900]

⁠@@AidaShawJ.D.I think it’s pretty safe to say that if they’re not buying it, as are Almost every single person commenting on this video, that the jury is then also not buying it! Again, I think that that is a safe/reasonable inference to make!

[@jaimeboling1382]

Keep freaking scrolling with your negative bulking insecure self.

[@user-zm1qs4kq1h]

this witness is on the ball

[@juanacastillo7154]

the judge is done with the defense attorney .⚖️ Excellent Judge ⚖️

[@petercallinicos]

The defense is getting desperate.

[@beckydavis747]

I cant stand this lawyer he is rude and loud to treat people like this as a witness is rediculous

[@Mika77Top]

Every witness is for him guilty somehow, except of mt

[@zoidberg1437]

Perhaps because he is in one of the few trials in his life where he is certain of winning

[@AidaShawJ.D.]

@@zoidberg1437that would be very arrogant and presumptuous of him to believe he’s guaranteed to win! 😂😂

[@AidaShawJ.D.]

FYI, it’s “ridiculous” with an “I” It may have been a typo, so I apologize if that was the case. It’s coming from a good place. 🙏🏾❤️

[@zoidberg1437]

@@AidaShawJ.D. agreed that he does come off as arrogant, he should just keep quiet and not do anything till the closing arguments, the defense has already kind of conceded that there is no case against troconis so he should just stop antagonizing the jury and just wait for the prosecution to self destruct

[@croach2194]

The defence attorney has misjudged the intelligence of the forensic scientist. Did he never consider what the alternative to bagging the contents of the trash bag would be.

[@debbieescobar6267]

He is trying to conjure up distrust of evidence in the jurors' minds. Because he beat this to death, was disorganized, and had to be corrected by the judge, it won't work

[@deborahpoole9710]

He could care less.

[@KenKaniffFromConnecticut]

Dude is fishing for nonsense almost just to confuse the witness and/or jury and everybody else in that court room!

[@andreamaleski3843]

This is uncomfortable to watch. This attorney knows how bad he is messing up …now the anxiety is out of control. I’m cringing

[@ssssss7816]

Best comment!!!😂😂

[@user-zm9ty9bl4w]

Nothing like insulting the jury with this BS line of questioning.

[@AidaShawJ.D.]

No one is insulted. You may be projecting! Jurors are instructed to keep their personal feelings about counsel in check. I certainly hope they are more open minded than the YT folks!

[@user-xf4gr3sn3k]

What a annoying and irritating guy..

[@GrizzlyUrsusArctos]

I saw no lost patience. She was 100% professional unlike Defense

[@babyboysinberry8200]

Love this judge! The judge from the Jennifer Crumbley's case should seriously take some notes from him.

[@motleymama6587]

Agree that judge is ridiculous!

[@geoffpoole483]

The judge in the Crumbley case has no presence whatsoever.

[@MarleneDeal-dl3ci]

She’s ridiculous as a judge

[@LadyLuck13]

The judge looks like he's having a cat nap at points.. lol 😴💤

[@alliehunter9896]

You got that right! She's worst judge ever.

[@juanacastillo7154]

all the witnesses are Professional Experience individuals that deserved respect.Deffense attorney is desperate and rude in his line of questioning . Never ever have i witness such a lunatic in Court.

[@jujujupiter]

Have you seen Shannon Smith in court?

[@libertyna933]

Lol I almost said that

[@Mary-fy3tc]

Watch the Darryl Brooks trial! 🤣

[@wyndiey]

I’m Surprised this defense attorney doesn’t request to bring the “SOP” manual in for evidence and go through it page by page, line by line…

[@kristin.shepherd]

He might!!!!

[@VerifiedVegan]

Not to mention, this defense attorney has the audacity to constantly complain to the judge that the prosecution is wasting time on witnesses testimony that have nothing to do with the case and he literally has spent more time than the prosecutors cross-examining I think every single one of the prosecution witnesses with this ridiculous, repeating and Nonsensical questions

[@mercinalady2040]

If this defense attorney annoys me, I wonder how the jury feels about him. The only confused party seems to be the defense attorney. He knows exactly what he is doing. He appears to be so analytical. I’m sure he is getting paid hourly. The judge even looks annoyed! 😱

[@AidaShawJ.D.]

The jury is fine.

[@carrieannshufelt3515]

You never know.. The Jury might think All of the Defense’s objections mean something( although they’re not supposed to think that way).

[@sharonbentley8612]

The jury probably has lost all their patience with him. He wants to prove he knows big words.

[@angelamccamish9451]

I've watched several trials but this has been the strangest one. Both State and Defense seem inexperienced and the Judge repeatedly hosts "teaching" moments for them.

[@QueenKunta]

Meanwhile in the Crumbley case, the defense attorney is incompetent and the judge has no control or command of the courtroom. The prosecution seems to be the only competent party.

[@stacyhenry5578]

​@QueenKunta she's far from incompetent.

[@9babyblu]

​@@QueenKunta I agree the Defence for Crumbley is basically a petulant child, it should be noticed that the male Prosecutor in that case, is also really petty. The female Pros is good. The guy is letting his frustration and retaliation against the Defense, show. Judge has zero order in her courtroom. Far FAR too many speaking objections in front of the jury. It is wild to me how much lack of professionalism is showing in FRONT of the jury!! I heard that the lead Defense women was in the same Defense team for Lassars case. (Olympic physiotherapist SO)

[@wyndiey]

@@stacyhenry5578I agree with you. Shannon Smith might need to work on “wearing her emotions on her sleeve” but she’s incredibly passionate and aggressively and tirelessly fights for her client. I’d definitely want a lawyer like her if I needed a defense attorney.

[@ladyluck9469]

The judge gives those explanations because he is attempting to prevent an appeal. You are correct in regards to this trial, it's mess. Witnesses have been called that didn't help neither side. Just a ridiculous trial. I believe if she is found guilty it's because she had an affair.

[@jaimeboling1382]

Omg, the look on her face & the judges face when discussing the 88-1-….regarding the trash bag is priceless 😂😂😂

[@christinebodhitreeexotics356]

This defense attorney was the worst I've ever seen, honestly. He asked absurd questions, and made it a point to critique everyone in the courtroom, whether it was necessary or not. It was bizarre.

[@ruthisaurus8004]

Did you watch the Jennifer crumbley trial.. 😂

[@jesussaves7973]

@@ruthisaurus8004yep. She was worse I think

[@robynfalconer9969]

Judge can't rule without saying "well" first. 😅

[@julieannison3394]

Judge sitting up there looking at lawyer….Fool

[@barbaramascaro6899]

Their only defense they have is attacking the credibility of the experts!

[@babswhitlam9106]

If he is paid by the hour this lawyer is going to be very rich by the end of the trial!!

[@jeannerader1349]

I have served on 5 juries. This attorney is not doing his client any favors. I get he is trying to establish doubt but you do not want to seem harassing witnesses or appear superior.

[@davidschmidt7761]

As long as you keep Convicting you’ll keep getting called

[@jeannerader1349]

You are wrong and whatever made you think that? I served in 2 states, County and Federal. Silly comment.

[@berthamoncayo2672]

The defense lawyer is sooooo irritating .😡😡😡😡

[@lisaamirant5595]

She is a superior witness!!!

[@hunterxiden19]

I think the Judge fell asleep.

[@RaoulThomas007]

The Judge is totally awake. When he makes his rulings he recites testimony with ease.

[@jaimeboling1382]

I seems to me they are both trying not to laugh uncontrollably at times.

[@sanster7700]

Ugh... defense lawyer

[@lifeisgood7740]

💤 🛌. 💤 💤 What point is he trying to make??????

[@CP-xm4gg]

The way he keeps standing up on his toes is irritating me

[@sandrachebo]

Toe standing suggest that he sees himself in a superior position... that he thinks he has the "gotcha" question that will make her testimony appear less credible. He is so annoying!

[@minniekay1240]

Wow…this line of questioning is maddening. She is a great witness.

[@Notmep]

If I was a juror I’d be so furious with Connecticut for allowing the shenanigans for years!! Lock her up

[@buddy345]

Bad form for the defense lawyer to refer to the jury as “them” during his cross-examination. He should be speaking to the jury, not the witness, throughout his cross. He should have said “the jury” rather than “them.”

[@jeanniecameron5831]

Where did she lose her patience?

[@Notmep]

No one could sit there and listen to his crap without pushing back!

[@user-gr4sk7wu4r]

I get it, his job is defend his client, but he is rude and his tone of voice is annoying. He thought he could intimidate this witness, oh but he was wrong.

[@juanacastillo7154]

m.tarconis and fotis never expected all these evidence to be collected..🙏⚖️🙏

[@deborahpoole9710]

Why he committed his crime on the holiday weekend.

[@lilymonkey2]

And why he offed himself. He knew he was f*d.

[@christineb.4810]

Good witness!

[@Shoshana-xh6hc]

Why can’t the cameras focus on Troconis face, as in the Adelson trials? We need to see her reactions to the questions and the images.

[@sandtats]

She's hiding behind that waist length curtain of hair extensions, busy texting. Why is the defendant allowed to use her phone when court in session???

[@donfaruolo1858]

I wouldn't use this attorney to dispute a parking ticket!!!!!

[@bls498]

Why are defense attorneys so unlikable?

[@elizasofia2694]

Because they are as guilty as the people they are defending😢... they know the truth CLEARLY but they r trying to get away with murder. Desperate Despicable Defending a criminal like her

[@pattiburns1280]

This defense lawyer is SO annoying.

[@Barbara_Schulz]

Just a typical sleazy defense lawyer. He has to keep glancing at the jury every time he thinks he is going to score. The items were IN an untorn bag. The intelligence of a gnat that just hit the windshield of your car.

[@okdk7]

LOL.... he is trying so hard to create doubt. His client sat in the vehicle as ALL of the questionable items were discarded there... " Could all of that trash cross contaminated each other....?" Yes.

[@sandrachebo]

DUH!

[@okdk7]

@@sandrachebo ??? Are you 12 ???

[@katt1165]

Love this woman!

[@patricebennett1100]

This defence Lawyer is a DoDo. I would hate to be stuck sitting next to him at a dinner party. He doesn’t know if he’s Arthur or Marther, and yet projects that confusion onto every one else. This woman ( and he knows it) is here to talk about forensics. The pictures have what bag they came from labelled on them. He is stuck in the weeds. Now the jury is going to sleep because of him. I know I just nodded off at the 10min mark.

[@JanetS1222]

Surprised the defense attorney didn’t object and state the witness was argumentative.

[@kosmosbjm]

“Just bear with me for a moment…..” he says, which is almost impossible to do given his arrogance and useless questioning. You just want to slap him.

[@josimpson7999]

Is this lawyer new at his craft? 🙄

[@leerobins749]

The lady in the witness box is a gem❤❤

[@Christy-.]

I love this witness! 😂🤣👑👑👑👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷

[@becyreed]

So rude this defence lawyer

[@KarenShatz]

He’s giving me a headache

[@johng4093]

He made a complete fool of himself.

[@kosmosbjm]

He’s completely annoying, arrogant, and unprofessional.

[@Amburrrr23]

This defense attorney is so obnoxious

[@TheWinterDaughter]

Defence attorney drives me nuts with his minutea and I hate the way he questions "this that, right?" He states something and then says right? To make it a question.

[@tinab3627]

It’s a freaking sponge dude!

[@Romovictorio]

🤣

[@eimyA0419]

LMAO! 😂😂😂😂

[@redgree1645]

This guy not terrible bright.

[@lynncasteel5885]

Lol, I loved when this witness "schooled" this defense attorney!! He is sooooo annoying.

[@MariaMedina-zv7du]

This defense attorney is annoying!

[@ironmaven1760]

haha i love this lady😅

[@helenareyes6084]

I am watching 2 trials now ( this one and Oxford shooters mom ) and the Defense attorneys in both are really annoying and unprepared

[@catherinephelps4956]

Oh Lordy! The defense attorney is crazy. That girl drives me nuts!

[@tmthompson79]

The defense lawyer is absolutely hands down the most annoying attorney I have ever seen in my entire life😖😵🥴

[@dorishenderson2979]

The killer appears to be using a lap-top on her desk, with the other lawyer sitting as if she is her assistant.

[@sandrachebo]

The defense plans it to look like she is intelligent and involved in the case. They used to give them a yellow pad and pencils for tic tac toe.

[@lisasmith7066]

I have to say that working as a legal Secretary has provided me with a strong interest in what may seem to be very dry, boring subject matter. That said, this portion of questioning by this attorney was a combination of contentious and boring. And I might add completely anti-climatic. What is his point? Why all of the nasty juju for a line of questioning that goes nowhere?

[@aparna776]

Huh?? What a pointless line of questioning. God he's insufferable!

[@quantumnature514]

She's awesome!

[@karenkollects9277]

I love love this witness!! Where in the world did the defendant find this attorney?? Everyday his questions get more and more ridiculous. I can’t even watch it, only highlights. He drives me crazy. He tries everything to confuse, object, object, and object. Anything to get the heat off his clients butt. The majority of his objections, 99 % have been over ruled.

[@SgtBroke-bm8gt]

You call that losing patience?

[@TacTwo]

Compared to how her demeanour was with the other team before this guy it's a strong contrast

[@nanevilhena2008]

Besides his rudeness toward forensic professionals and all in the courtroom, I believe all he's trying to do with all his nonsense is to confuse the jury.

[@sonia354]

When you’re paid by the hour……….🙈

[@CharlesSilver-ew3ju]

This is another one of the reasons the defense lost the case. He irritated the witnesses and the jury's patience was stretched. The defendant should not use this guy again.

[@TawnyC_]

The judge is 😴

[@gayemarianesfox2405]

The judge sitting with his head back while all this is going on lol. Sheesh.

[@maureenobrien9661]

My God, that defense attorney is excruciating!! I'm surprised that the witness managed to keep her composure!

[@JERSEYTOMATO]

The defense attorney - is clearly confused - he is NOT the expert - however, trying his best to - portray- as though he is an expert - clearly, he needs to “sit” -

[@sonia354]

Oh FFS!! It’s a barrel of garbage in more ways than one. Just sayin…..

[@Bunny-ur8fd]

This Judge is clearly over this defense attorney!!

[@LadyLuck13]

Is the judge asleep? ...lol

[@Southernheathen13]

It honestly wouldn’t surprise me. This trial is so drawn out and ridiculous because of the defense attorney. It’s next to impossible to pay attention. I feel bad for the jury.

[@atty7697]

MT seems to be engaged in an animated conversation with the female lawyer. Are they conversing in English or Spanish?

[@deborahpoole9710]

Right? I have never seen a defendant so arrogant and removed from the trial.

[@buddy345]

@@deborahpoole9710 How on earth do you arrive at the conclusion that she’s being arrogant? You have zero idea what she’s saying. How do you know she’s not freaking out because of the other defense lawyer’s rambling cross-examination? Her very freedom is on the line. What would you do? Sit placidly by while watching your lawyer blow the entire case? Please.

[@diann3880]

@@buddy345good point in all fairness

[@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016]

The DA needs to pay attention. That sponge was already mentioned by another witness or two as to how that sponge was handled and by whom. And it was labeled and why. Pay attention. This is so frustrating to listen to .. I would scream if I was on the jury.

[@buddy345]

Ms. Troconis’s grounds for appeal will no doubt include a claim for ineffective assistance of counsel.

[@sondragramse1770]

That's what I am afraid of

[@valerierodger]

This defence attorney is just painful to watch. He’s not just clutching at straws, he is doing so in a very clumsy manner.

[@juanacastillo7154]

as trial days progressed m.taconis hides more under her hair. she knows they are coming for her ⚖️👍

[@cathy1703]

And she won’t be able to get hair extensions where she’s going!

[@bobdaniel350]

This defense is a bottom feeder from the bar! The judge has to be getting his jollies from this itemized soup of garbage. Poor forensic schooled professionals that put up with a song and a dance troubled defense. He loses in presentation. Judge needs to stop his empty utterances! He is not defending his client- he is trying to win at any cost. As a juror I’m totally asleep with this nonsense. A microbe is a ghost -no evidence for defense. Jurors are empty of any intelligence this ambulance chasing fool delivers:

[@mirandaajames]

I don’t blame her! The only other attorneys I’ve come across this exasperating were Jessy Kurczewski’s 😫

[@SS11660]

He thinks if he asks enough questions, it will confuse the that jury into l thinking something was wrong with her analysis.

[@sandtats]

Johnny Cochran, one of the premiere defense attorneys of his time, never once durung OJ trial raised his voice; became combative during cross of witnesses; was rude or disrespectful. Fierce advocacy of your client is one thing, but what Schoenhorn is doing is not that. He's being a jerk.

[@missmeggan25]

You can’t tell me the defense attorney isn’t Roland Schitt

[@AnnieFlorida]

Lol

[@deborahburton-9460]

He’s just trying to distract the jury. He is only making everyone mad.