WIZARD ADVANCED FRAMES - Worth The Price? (Unboxing/First Look)

[@djedr123]

I know it’s unavoidable to bring up price when talking about wizards. But if you listen to the old mushroomblading podcasts, watch the older content (zone, ., prove yourself), and realize the passion and innovation that went into the product, it starts to make sense. Not to mention people spend $1k+ on ski setups to pay $500 for a season pass to use them. You can use these every day if you want (especially in texas).

[@iRollerboot]

I appreciate that perspective, thank you for sharing 🤝

[@roribune8162]

people spend 1k+ on ski setups because that reflects the cost of manufacture. the price of these do not.

[@Junk_Druggler]

No shade at all but I don't see any merit to the argument of paying for someone's passion in a product, nor is the comparison to being charged for slope access, these are not more expensive because you save money on where or how often you can use them. CNC'ing a billet of alu really isn't that expensive, I understand the initial startup cost of setting up new business relationships like production, shipping and marketing etc is not cheap but the markup on the material and end product is honestly silly imo

[@djedr123]

@@Junk_Druggler Nah no shade taken. I mention passion because the frames aren’t just a cncd piece of aluminum, they’re purpose built for a specific discipline of skating and are the result of rigorous testing and creativity. I suppose if it’s not that expensive you can make your own, but then you’ll have to do some 3d modeling and math to give yourself the precise rocker that these frames provide. The markup on skis is steep as well, but if you want to ski you need skis, and If you want to wizard you need wizards (or the other offshoots that spawned due to their success). Leon and the MB guys created wizard skating, and as a big fan of them I can def get behind the product (and so can many others, the frames sell out almost immediately upon restocking).

[@jontan1893]

Firstly these frames are basically just CNC'ed pieces of aluminium and they really don't come cheap. However, the business does not have to justify cost to the consumer. As a consumer, you have the power to choose - pay for it or you don't. I just appreciate that somebody out there thought about making some cool frames that could do some pretty neat stuff. If these frames weren't invented,, you wouldn't even be able to buy them even if you had the money.

[@jda79]

Wizard skating is definitely fun to watch

[@iRollerboot]

🤘🤘

[@1TreukFlyyy]

Nice review ! For all the people looking for alternative Wizard frames, here are some brand names : - NN Skates - Endless Blading Co. - Roka skating - Rockin Frames

[@iRollerboot]

Thank you David!

[@kalkmann]

Pr or progressive rocker doesn’t have to do with the bigger sized outer wheels. The PR80 or PR76 for example have all 5 wheels in the same size. PR just means that the middle wheels is the closest to the ground and that from there every wheel is progressively rockered. The NR or natural rocker (4 wheel frame) has the two midde wheels closer to the ground compared to the outer wheels. Looking forward seeing you skating these🔥

[@iRollerboot]

Whoops! Thanks for the clarification 🙏🙏

[@chilli-iceolive-abode2447]

Ooh I look forward to seeing you try them out. Those advanced ones are real crazy looking. I use the 5x80 a lot and it's a bit like stabilisers so I find it great for learning swively things that can then be transferred to more traditional setups. Good luck! 🧙‍♂️

[@iRollerboot]

I should def be learning on those lol. Excited to trying to bring some wizard inspiration to my skating.

[@NoBuddyz]

You’re a wizard Harry

[@softlk8810]

Yes! Happy about this!

[@iRollerboot]

😁😁

[@JDHackett]

Shout out to Leon. What a goat

[@Stoitism]

I got the NN Dragon 5x80 instead of Wizard frames. I'd like to support Wizard as a company, Leon seems like a good dude...I just can't afford to!

[@iRollerboot]

I feel you, I bet that’s a fun setup 🤩

[@Stoitism]

@@iRollerboot Dude they're so much fun. I actually prefer them on my Eugen Shadows even though I bought some UFR's to use specifically as a wizard boot. It's really interesting how your style adapts to these kind of frames. You find new ways to use your skates and you start to see and use your skate spots in a new way too. The lack of a H-Block makes you look for other things to do, which really does enhance creativity.

[@ballmouse]

lets gooooooo, excited for some wizard content!!!

[@iRollerboot]

🔥🔥🔥😁

[@justinwregier]

Rad! Advanced frames are such a good time.

[@iRollerboot]

🤘🤘

[@DanielDaniel-oe4bg]

Wizard frames have three considerable disadvantages: - UFS mounting, which does not allow left-right adjustments; - they are slow. At some point, you will want to speed up and you will have to change the frame (more money); - they are excessively expensive.

[@Bunbun21000]

Hi iRollerboot, loving what you have done for the community! I have been practicing wizard lately and I came across some 'veteran' slalom skaters who were asking me what is the difference between slalom and wizard. At that time I wasn't prepared on what to answer and the convo ended with them saying "Wizard is just easy slalom on big wheels". That opinion triggered me a little and after a few days pondering, I realized wizard skating is actually a union of aggressive, slides and slalom. But I'm not one to confirm anything at all, but if you are able to highlight some true facts or definitions in maybe a future video (since you will be touching on the wizard topic), it would really help explain to most skaters who are still pondering; "Is Wizard Skating easy slalom indeed?"

[@iRollerboot]

I posted this question to the community, please go check it out 🤘🙏

[@andrewgallant8274]

that kind grind was sick

[@gettinginline]

Interesting how similar wizard skating at times is to figure skating.

[@iRollerboot]

I was thinking that as well.

[@jda79]

Law would call it swizzelly

[@iRollerboot]

😆😆 love it

[@OlderBladers]

What boot are you going to be using?

[@iRollerboot]

Cj2 prime!

[@DustyJ_2]

😎💎🤘🏻

[@iRollerboot]

🤘🤘😁

[@NikZvi]

They look ike a piece of some future art-technologies. Scratching them would be a tragedy...

[@iRollerboot]

Agreed ^__^

[@igorgoga7985]

how do you like skating them?

[@iRollerboot]

It was fun! Check out the next video of me skating them

[@erichopham]

Can you get these advanced frames if you are not an advanced skater?😂

[@iRollerboot]

I’ve been waiting for a knock on my door lmao

[@claudeJUNIOR]

Good mic...

[@iRollerboot]

🙏🤝

[@MrWeAllAreOne]

Definitely not worth the money. I ride in £600 seba carbon skates and in no way would I ever want these frames....don't be conned folks these are pure hype.

[@roribune8162]

I am a rollerblader and full time CNC machinist and have worked in manufacturing for about 10 years. These might be good, but they are 100% a ripoff, and the price of these is absolutely disgusting when you know how much things cost to manufacture. Yes, even in the USA, that is way too much. I have heard Leon's justification for charging as much and it is bullshit and I have zero respect for him for it. What a joke.

[@StreetBladerBloke]

That's the reason I went for roka frames has same spec cost £130.

[@markoliberty7581]

Totally overpriced

[@massid3774]

Not really

[@Junk_Druggler]

Looking forward to see what you do on them!