WIZARD IS BACK (not really)! | Dark and Darker

[@stealthyturtles]

Rework spell casting in general. We should have 3 spell ranks, cantrip, rank 1, and rank 2. Cantrips are free and spammable, rank 1 is what all spell versions are now, rank 2 is buffed versions. So fireball does more dmg and leaves a little fire behind like how skellie mages fireball works. Give rank 1 and rank 2 independent charges, so 5 R1 fire balls, and 2-3 R2 ones. Adjust damages accordingly. Could be applied to warlocks/clerics also. Cantrip lesser heal is like 3 hp, but with a bunch of + magic heal it can get up to like 11. Rank 2 is base line 20, bur they can only use it twice. Or just make some spells not eligible for ranked versions to reduce the balancing nightmare that would likely cause and give it just to wizards since they are THE spell caster class

[@Waylay90]

Wizard gameplay would be so fun if doesn't require you to sit half of the match

[@ovulatinfish]

it’s fun because it’s powerful, meditating in a match to regain spells is what makes it a DPS class in the first place since you have to choose when to go all in, balancing it from being absurdly OP

[@TheCgio5]

Yeah Jay using like all his charges of every spell playing 10 spell wizard per fight. Lot of campfiring after that.

[@devol3829]

and the other half is clearing mobs with a physical weapon... AS A WIZARD.

[@zeroknight5594]

Be kinda nice you had very slow passive regen on your spells. Sitting can still recharge your stuff at the normal rate but just to kinda help with running around and using lower tier spells

[@itsyaboymarcelluswallace]

Didnt they add clarity potions for that reason? I know that dont address the balance but it should help in the mean time

[@theborg6024]

15:23 clap clap clap your hands lmao

[@christophervanderhorst1258]

After that judgement bug happen to me twice I put judgement away till they fix

[@miscreant39]

they really need to buff pickpocket, its so much fun :(

[@tobytowns1]

i wonder if a spell rework of cooldowns could be implemented without being too powerful, each spell has a set amount that can only be used a certain time before a timer, amoount and damage could be adjusted to compensate

[@UnimportantAcc]

Limited spell charges is just a quick answer to the missing mana issue. Imo druid forms, wizard spells and warlocks dark magic should all cost mana. Which would have a passive regen that could be boosted by pots/perks/gear. And then resting would regen the most mana

[@maxxling6783]

This is the best solution I've heard yet

[@UnimportantAcc]

@@maxxling6783 its the usual rpg way of managing spells etc. I think they just didn't have time to set up a whole mana system when they only had wizard. So the band-aid solution was give them 'charges' of spells instead, accomplishing nearly the same thing, but not quite

[@greyKuma536]

The "charge" spell count is derived from DnD. That's why wizard and cleric have this system. The problem is that this game is way different from DnD, thus the solo Wiz is painfull.

[@UnimportantAcc]

​@@greyKuma536interesting. I see why video games opt for mana instead

[@stealthyturtles]

@@UnimportantAccya spell charges is a DnD thing which this game is heavily inspired by. It just doesn’t work in context for this class cause it’s literally THE spell caster class. That’s what people want “cantrips” which are weaker, spammable skills in DnD that don’t require spell slots. Really they should give wizards spell versions, cantrip, spell rank 1, and spell rank 2. Cantrip does little dmg, good for mobs or pressure, rank 1 is what we currently have, rank 2 is buffed versions that have their spell slots reduced by like 1/3. That way you can nuke, tickle, or play like now.

[@BB-848-VAC]

why do they nerf wiz so hard and buff lock so much

[@YourLocalMedic]

Is casterlock even playable right now all spells literally got 50% more expensive and they can only heal from one thing at once

[@toxicmagnaguard]

@@YourLocalMedic100% playable just have to spend more on magic healing

[@gnarshreddar9874]

You accused me of stream sniping yesterday and really hurt my feelings

[@juansarmiento4843]

I have a dream that one day I'll be the 69th like or 420th like

[@Snowytho]

Wizards should really get a pocket crystal, that works like a syringe except gives you full spell recovery instead of health

[@AidanThomas-ny7vg]

no views in 50 seconds you fell off

[@venomous7321]

its so annoying how "fans" stream snipe you and think they are chill.

[@tombofthememelich2192]

Sitting on a high ledge calmly selecting the optimal spell to send into the melee while your boys are fighting for their lives and screaming over comms is a whole mood :)

[@Btk780]

4:51 damn didn't know u could basically face check someone with lightning. This guy makes it look easy

[@AlunethMaster]

ye nvm, you were right, i ragequit this garbage wizard design i keep getting runned over by every single melee no matter if hit my slows, my fireballs, i juke, i jump trick, doens't matter, melee players just don't give a F, i already have wow for this type enviroment, like, legit whoever is in charge of wizard needs to resign.

[@TheGhostie]

i really wish that you'd let each clip play out a little longer, i wish i could see the outcome of Jay's pickpocket rogue clips so badly.

[@drakevdk]

just love the warlok yelling for you to run not to let his team mate kill you. i rewatched and still laughing at that

[@Aaron-nt3pe]

That judgement thing at 15:30 is exactly what happens to me every time I use it. I don't understand how I get instantly judgemented, yet the skill will just refuse to work most of the time on my end.

[@sawritall4292]

It is infuriating and it gets me killed more than anything else when playing cleric, if other classes had skills that had this function i wouldnt mind, but the fact that the devs refuse to fix this after over a year now goes to show how neglected cleric really is

[@Midwestemoisme]

@@sawritall4292”fixed” fix what? if someone walks out of ur range u time out the skill what’s the problem?

[@sawritall4292]

@@Midwestemoisme did you miss the autocancel bug Jay got? Thats a common issue with the skill, not a feature, its not supposed to do that and needs to be FIXED.

[@D0NTF34R]

​@Midwestemoisme did you even watch the clip the guy timestamped? You can clearly see him clapping his hands over and over again, that's not walking out of range because it would just end and go on CD. This has been an issue with judgement forever.

[@stealthyturtles]

Would be cool if they made judgement into like a cross that blasts out of your shield, so it’s a skill shot and can be used when in defense and while moving. Just make it really short range. Could also add a perk rework for, maybe holy aura? Make it where judgment turns into a small knock back too, instead of just a slow, so clerics can peel for themselves a little in a skirmishing in 2s and 3s. Similar to the fighters shield bash, which no one uses. Just take the small channel out of the skill completely.

[@itsyaboymarcelluswallace]

At the very least i feel like wizards should get a lil bonus to campfire set up speed to compensate for the lower stats

[@brennanorr2]

Everyone has the same amount of stats just difference in the distribution ur saying wiz should have high resourcefulness without having the stat that would be not balanced at all it would be balanced if they took a needed stat and give resourcefulness and im not asking for this it would just be a nerf to the class play ranger or rogue if u want to set campfires fast..

[@noonegaming8685]

⁠@@brennanorr2agility also determines the speed of campfires and that is actually a good stat unlike resourcefulness. They could take some dex maybe even resourcefulness to put into agility.

[@davidmaly6606]

​@noonegaming8685 that messes with the base ms of the class. Something they've already tweaked across all classes. I'd assume they don't want wizard faster or they would've made them faster when they did that.

[@brennanorr2]

@@noonegaming8685 yea they could also take all resourcefulness from barb and put it all into agi and str but like i said before that would be wildly unbalanced...

[@braxtonmims4223]

@@brennanorr2 you gotta use some punctuation my brother

[@AlunethMaster]

Hey Jay, im new to the game, but after 5 days of nonstop playing wizard alone... i feel like quitting, i haven't done anything but clear the first floor and run, i tried the second floor once and i was instantly with my back against the wall, too many mobs too storng in every direction to do anything.... i feel like i have literally 0 progress and i feel like im just wasting my time

[@patsol8013]

You are wasting your time. Any Jay videos you’ve watched of wizard have been far in the past when it was in a much better state. Wizard is the hardest class in the game by a long shot. Go play warlock, it’s better wizard with life steal on everything

[@ovulatinfish]

i mean what do you expect when you start with the hardest and least beginner friendly class in the game lmao, stick to the basics and learn the core of the game before trying out different play styles or you’re just going to get unmotivated

[@AmmoPack]

try warlock instead

[@abusedavocado8443]

wiz is just in a weird place right now, unfortunately. They keep nerfing it to the ground when pve was already slow it just keeps getting slower. Play with a team and it will make the process way easier as you don't need to be the one clearing pve as much. It is also important to note that Goblin Caves is the only map designed for solos. The mob density and hp per room are too high on other maps so it's gonna take more time to clear.

[@Kazner0h]

@@patsol8013 There are druids in this video. It's from this patch at the latest, no?

[@vultrex1839]

Thank you. There has been like 0 wizard content this wipe. Everybody changed classes 😂

[@hirotokazuya2613]

yeah bro imma returner wizard only watch red since he play wizard 😥

[@dexterbailey6356]

repoze is the biggest loser going

[@demicameron]

Pretty sure the guy at 17:24 is cheating, no way he could've known you were hiding right beside him and he coincidentally pulls out his knife and slices at Jay with no reason to lmao

[@RUSHFROG]

banger vid jay, wizard is back!!!!!!

[@legatus9081]

15:24 that's your fault, you used the slow clap emote instead of your Q

[@mikhi7866]

Please just give us Cantrips and have them not suck, it is absolutely insane that a dedicated caster class, should have to melee much more than a hybrid caster-melee class. No self respecting Wizard in DnD would go up to goblins and smack them.

[@ramisama88]

r u gonna spam this everywhere? saw it on reddit and discord

[@mikhi7866]

@@ramisama88 Or maybe that just means there's a lot of people asking for it? Not talking on discord at all, and I'm not the one making posts about it on reddit every month

[@ZoidSwift]

​@ramisama88 we've been asking for cantrips for forever man

[@ZacBassMusic]

This is an awesome camping simulator

[@lukewillyard5483]

Why play with berb , bro likes to call other streamers gamer words over pixels

[@ChoppyGaming]

Honestly add a perk that allows you to regen your spells at 1/5th the rate of sitting down passively and wizard is fixed. So disgusting to have to constantly campfire just to play your class.

[@karabaz9185]

Druid take magical damage in dreamwalk?

[@blazinggames1988]

Bro the 4 roll Cinder HOLY

[@franzfiskus3467]

0:02 i also saw an ale there couple days ago

[@HayesWiseman]

JUDGMENT IS SO BAD I SWEAR IT NEVER WORKS

[@MarcelFAW]

Why run two spell memory

[@TahitiSkeez]

17:24 look at these stream sniping losers.

[@frankintosh0420]

i played solo wizard up until a month ago when i made a cleric to play w/ my friend. completely different game. to go from meditating every 5 minutes after exhausting all your offense over and over to just walking around booping things on the head.... Wiz is a different breed, folks. Trust me.

[@VENIfromRUST]

hi

[@9000twister]

Was just thinking about Invis mobs as nightmare effects! Or what joy this brings me for the trolling side of things tho

[@dylancrosby2451]

Yoooo i saw those random floating pots today in gob caves lmao, there's been some real buggy shit happening in game lately, especially in gob caves.

[@vatinh]

He litterally said more time "i'm camping" than anything else

[@xenird]

In a PvP montage.

[@alper9418]

im realizing i had a torch disappear in front of me today and I thought it was just a bug........

[@okene]

RUSHFROG?? FROM MY SPELLBREAK LOBBIES???? DAMN THAT'S AN OLD NAME THAT REALLY TICKLES MY MEMORIES

[@Nadestorms]

Wizard feels awkwardly good sometimes since it’s so cheap to get insane MP and nobody is prioritizing MR rolls anymore But yeah please let me fucking kill skeletons I’m so sick of 30 seconds for one skele.

[@toxicmagnaguard]

Ignite staff works good but sucks to lose a spell

[@steezy8638]

do you not play trios?💀everyone is prioritizing MR and PDR i swear its so difficult to fight esp when they got a full magic healing cleric

[@drewmccuistion2625]

Use your spells for PVE, the 15 second rest after like 2 rooms is easily made up by the speed spells can kill mobs

[@Nadestorms]

@@drewmccuistion2625 meditate in HR is grief tho, you need 10 spell or insta to be as impactful in fights as possible IMO... then if u get ganked with no spells its gg

[@RawChickenGaming]

I am always excited when I see a JayGriffyuh notification. DONT FORGET TO LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE!

[@zettsii]

clean transition at 17:40 W mfn PLEBOR GOAT

[@musketgolfer4326]

19:32 man... the fights in this game can be pretty

[@SmoZeyz]

@pleb i wanted to watch jay sit y u do dis

[@jethro1044]

Wiz, my beloved..😔

[@dikwaibdish2924]

gj plebby

[@Doc-holiday-]

Another Jay classic

[@noniymyordenadorelbobo1001]

we love wizard

[@simonko5557]

what would be a good remake for a wizard ?

[@stealthyturtles]

I don’t play the class but maybe give them something to make their spells better. It could be a utility spell, something like a buff on the ground, “arcane circle” or whatever you want to call it. Increase all spell casting time by 15% for anyone in the circle, it lasts 10s, has like 5 charges, and is pretty generous in size. Maybe the size of a sanctuary/mending grove, so you can still be bullied out of it, but while in it you’re slanging spells like crazy, every spell gets 1 free cast while in it, then it starts taking charges again, free cast is like 10% stronger, adjust accordingly to make it not be absolutely busted. Just an idea. Or a skill that is a single activated buff that does that same thing.

[@Brahz]

17:21 Cuimer with the no hesitation stabs directly at you, straight stream sniping lmao.

[@MyNamesDeez]

What a trash can. Same type of guy who would look at your screen in a split screen cod match and be like “bro I dIdN’t eVeN know u wEr theRe” yeah fucking right

[@michaelweber9778]

I was looking at my inventory while life draining

[@Brahz]

@@michaelweber9778 and that told you he was on your right with your partner calling jay's name...

[@neilludik9154]

Aidan a savage for that

[@AidanThomas-ny7vg]

thanks man

[@cosmicfox5671]

I really think they should introduce a Mana mechanic instead of spell charges. Wizard feels great for PvP, but absolutely terrible for PvE.

[@davidmaly6606]

That's it's niche lol Your team should be clearing pve. Wizard, like most of the game, was not designed with solos in mind. This is a team game with solos as an afterthought.

[@dikwaibdish2924]

@@davidmaly6606 will be a dead game again if they don't cater to solos

[@davidmaly6606]

@dikwaibdish2924 na they're working on proper matchmaking so that they can still develop a team game. Been their vision from the start. I'm saying this as someone who plays like 95% solos with a couple thousand hours sunk into the game.

[@wubnoxious]

what if wizards could quickly craft clarity potions in raid with a caldron or something that "Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and caldron bubble." would be kinda cool looking for herbs idk

[@raouff2178]

ive been playing the f2p version its actually a banger but i want the real game so bad anyone can help me out (i am on steam)

[@pingufanal9455]

Wizard Perk: - Spells deal 5 times the damage against non elite monsters (demons, bosses, ...) - One of your spells does not consume charges but has a (X) seconds cooldown - Killing a monster regains spell slots depending on the monsters strength