Law professor analyzes mistrial in Karen Read murder trial

NBC 10's Katie Benoit talks to Rosanna Cavallaro, a law professor at Suffolk University Law School, about the mistrial in the Karen Read murder case.
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[@makeitmakesense5388]

Why are people so invested in convicting this woman. Accident reconstruction team testified this was not from a car accident

[@shortbusautorepair]

Because she is guilty

[@varrick1226]

@@shortbusautorepair How so?

[@kristibriley4483]

The only response I’ve heard is she admitted to it and we’ve all seen Jen’s testimony-I don’t believe a word out of her mouth. Everyone says she said something different and then changed what the heard months later. I don’t think it takes a genius to see she was questioning herself and trying to figure out what could’ve happened to him. While she’s screaming, Jen’s whispering to 911 that he’s dead without even getting out of the car. These people are terrifying and also seem to have the victims family brainwashed as well. I say pull the phone data and tear up that basement floor and do a real investigation. Let’s see who’s telling the truth?

[@undercoveragent9889]

How did Biden get to be President? Same people; same empty heads.

[@donaldbulloch9426]

Because she’s what passes for hot in that cesspool.

[@vegefranz]

FBI expert testified he was not killed by a car. That´s you need to know

[@sibelc.380]

I don't understand why people still think he hit by carrrrrr!!! Engineers explained that the injuries were not caused by carrrr!!!

[@The_10th_Man]

@@sibelc.380nbc doesn’t want to put on someone with that opinion.

[@bethryan9077]

All pedestrian collision injuries on the Right side - golf ball eye from Right eyebrow, slice on Right eyelid, abrasions Right shoulder, abrasions Right arm, bruise on top of Right hand, abrasion Right side of knee. Broken whole piece of Right taillight. Cops got Right wackjob. You & your like can't picture any other pedestrian collision except being hit from the Front of a car meaning, with a bonnet that is low to the ground, so an impact to the legs with all manner of other injuries due to being flung or falling off the bonnet of the car. Yawn. It is nobody's fault that you also can't figure out how the back of his head slammed onto the edge of the concrete kerb which caused the severe skull fractures & then his brain slowly swelled while he froze to death. Her car kept moving up til just past the border of the trees, no doubt they were arguing, as She said, since they left the Waterfall. John would have been embarrassed that people, His friends, could hear Her, the screaming foul mouthed banshee. JO had just stood up from picking up something, maybe the glass of Vodka that he took off her drunk ass & his right elbow hit the plastic taillight piece, maybe at the last split second he tried to use that elbow to push himself out of the way. His body went forward & from such a weight of that huge car plus the speed, the sideswiping sent him straight backwards. Snow had been coming down, head hit edge of kerb, concrete & grass icy. Tiny fragments of red & clear plastic were in his Clothes. 2 + 2 = 4. Lock that thing up. I don't know why Jack-O-Lantern kept repeating that the body 'went flying' when the cop's car video shows Where the body Was as his car approached the scene. That slimeball kept bangin' on about the body being '30 feet away' from the edge of the road but I suppose for a midget Moron, about 6 foot looks a long way away. LOL. FYI - that SUV was Not a sedan, it didn’t have a Trunk, the system of taillights are many, moulded plastic, higher set. The data from her ten ton Truck shows, she planted her foot to the metal for 62 feet, Instantly doing 24.2 miles per hour. That car was fitted with a screen in front of her face, reversing camera & sensors. The beep beep beep was prevalent as she approached her boyfriend. It got faster when she didn't Stop. The data from her vehicle shows a sudden slight lessening of speed & the wheel turned slightly. Indicative of hitting a pedestrian. A demo was filmed using her car & those exact data entries & showing the brakes brought the car to an immediate stop on an icy road. She didn't slow, stop or even hesitate as the accelerator data Shows. The abrasions on John's right arm are from her right taillight hitting at great force & many blunt edges of many pieces scraped the skin & the blood cells only raise to the surface. No bleeding because there was no breakage of skin. He was wearing two long-sleeved shirts. His body went forward then twisted & the back of his head hit the cement kerb & so the 3" split in the skin on the back of Officer John O'Keefe's head & so, the severe skull fractures. Due to frantic life-saving efforts that continued at the hospital, the left eye ballooned also. Blue/black eyelids is called raccoon eyes & very typical due to skull fractures & blue/black above & a bit below eyes later, same reason. N.B. for all the dumb bums I will explain something else in Simpleton terms - the sensor in her car also means that when she slowly & very deliberately backed into John's car at 5.07 a.m., her drake face was also hearing Beep Beep Beep. Her right hand reached over to press a button, the auto brake assist that she switched Off. The Authentic ring camera video shows the piece of the taillight Missing as she drove off. A cop went to John's house at 8.22 a.m., to see if kids there alone. The video from his car shows, the Same piece missing. Karen Read is a very crafty female who thought she was The most attractive thing on the planet & believed in her demented mind, that All men should fall at her feet. She was lucky enough to be born a Psychopath so the killing of a human being was very Easy for her. She drove to John's house from Fairview & started calling a dying man's phone, the message she left - "John, nobody knows where you are". wtf, really? Her first convo with Jen McCabe after she woke John's poor niece & made Her call Jen then Read spoke -"I was so drunk last night, the last thing I remember was being with John at the Waterfall". Her call to Kerry Roberts - "John's dead, I think he might've been hit by a plough". This was after she had a) driven past the Waterfall as her subterfuge b) gone down Fairview & at some place around there, Saw plough men working. Jen had barely had any Sleep when that call from the niece then the non-stop screaming from the actress but, it was working due to Jen & Kerry's love & care for John & they wanted to Help. Jen told Read, wait, I saw your car at the front of my sister's house after the Waterfall. Read's story kept changing & evolving, up til this Day. Like any trial, separate the vegetable soup from the chicken pieces. It is Very clear that she is Guilty. There were Two grand jury investigations, the 2nd run by the Feds. And then, the case went to Trial. Here’s how it goes - the more witnesses the prosecution had to put on the stand the More the trial drags out & so, the More work for her circus performers to do & so the Mega bucks that they get from Her. LOL. The best part about the trial is knowing that Read is Broke & she will Always be broke as John's niece & nephew will Sue that Monster to hell & back Next. I don't know how Paul contained himself having to watch that rattle snake enjoy herself very many of those days. Back at the beginning, Yanetti on the courthouse steps & the announcement for the TV cameras "it was an accident, she didn't mean to hit him". Then along came a little spider from the bright lights of LA Land & he saw Big dollars signs & a fable was born against all those at the after-party, against every serving police officer in the State & against all medical responders for 50 miles. That evil-eyed serpent spent 1 million on a PR campaign to make a whole lot of numpties, cop haters & Ritas, into her turtle Mutant cult members. Congrats. And BTW - as much as she laughed, smiled & smirked all through the trial, she is doing Same about You. It's 5.00 a.m., "Kerry Kerry Kerry" then she hung up because the play-acting was Meant to freak the hell out of that poor woman. It's about 5.05 a.m., she calls back "John's dead, I think he might have been hit by a plough". At about 6.10 a.m., "there he is, let me out of this fucking car". The only one of 3 women who could See a body from the middle of the back seat as the 2 women in the front were looking either side & ahead for John when driving in the middle of a Blizzard, pitch black outside still, no streetlights for the road & the body was about 6 feet back from the kerb at the far left side area of a family's front yard & completely covered in several inches of Snow. Amazing supernatural powers from that evil-eyed devil in a dress. I suppose you would defend that thing even if that body was Your child yeah?

[@user-jv8su7oo2u]

HIS Buddies Killed him, and put it on Miss Reaid!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Americanpatriot298]

That's so true. FBI should of outright blame the cops for this murder.

[@lloydbarnes7847]

I think it was obviously a waste of Taxpayer money the first time. D.A need to really think hard before wasting even more money💰😢

[@dailyqwikbytes]

Meatball don't care.

[@Little-miss]

They dont care about wasting money. He still gets paid win or lose.

[@sherriehaas6842]

He was not killed by the car NOT Guilty please

[@edwinodus]

Why in the world would the government brought a murder charge against its citizen without accounting for every injury on the victim?

[@MissteryDiva]

Trooper Proctor covered Brian Albert in past for assault so he didn't get arrested. After John's murder, Proctor texted his friend's how they won't investigate them‼️Cop Cover Up‼️

[@Breezy1702]

The Commonwealth and Morrissey need to bite the bullet and dismiss this case. They know they know they have no actual evidence that she was drunk. They have no actual real evidence that she did anything to her. John the experts said he was not hit by a car that it’s impossible so that should be the end of this case.

[@lisamay4376]

I think the police should select more professional detectives.

[@lilithstribe]

100% and require them to be collage educated.

[@acc4465]

you think you can an entire nation demonize police and get good people?

[@kristibriley4483]

The bar is set pretty low so it shouldn’t be hard.

[@maryshea603]

Sounds like first they'd have to find sober ones.

[@lilithstribe]

@maryshea603 Right!?! That was a lot of drinking they all did!

[@candiadams5512]

Did this woman watch the trial and see the experts that proved that his death was not caused by a vehicle? So frustrating.

[@shortbusautorepair]

Oh 💩. That's why they came back with a not guilty verdict.

[@chocol8milk]

Let’s mot forget, the physics showed that what the prosecution alleged couldn’t have happened. It’s impossible.

[@IWantToMature85]

Not true

[@dailyqwikbytes]

Yes and CW expert Pauldemort testi-lied and said he did the calculations without having or even NEEDING one of the data variables without which it's IMPOSSIBLE to do ANY calculations. This doesn't mean you're get a wrong answer. This means you can't run them at all.

[@laurenurban3942]

Of course it’s impossible because he was not struck by a vehicle.

[@jonathangeddes9786]

negotiate away the Physics and Biomechanics? did this professor watch the Arca testimony?

[@111laetitia]

👏👏🎉🎉👍👍

[@BlackStump172]

Obviously this professor has no understanding or respect for scientific evidence or commonsense . She is very silly to think that anyone in that county has not heard details of this trial . She is very naive to consider that the jury in NY , or the judge were unbiased . There was no reason for Karen to drive backwards recklessly . Ryan Nagle pulled up after Karen and Julie came out , but there was no body there and Karen’s SUV was gone .

[@cm1642]

No.

[@dailyqwikbytes]

Clearly you haven't been exposed to higher education. 99% of professors are clueless pontificating blowhards. FEW exceptions! I couldn't fill all ten fingers with the ones weren't through more than one degree experience.

[@111laetitia]

@@jonathangeddes9786 Even if they watched it , they don't have a high level of intelligence to really understand the science. ..There were a LOT of clues & details given by the medical examiner including the ones hired by the prosecution themselves. She , herself stated that the head trauma and those periorbital fractures occures FIRST. She also said that the laceration & fracture on his P head were d/t an impact with a blunt surface.. she also gave extensive description & details about the type & aspect of the skull fracture , based on the impact. So it's either the justice system are dumb or they play dumb to avoid the truth....?? Truly amazing.....

[@fergie960]

"hos long to die in the cold" at 2.27 am. Read was back home at 12.36 am...... etc... ignoring that?

[@Thejamaicanmarkhanley]

NOT GUILTY

[@marlbboro8091]

2.27 was disproved by cellbrite

[@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie]

WHAT went on in that jury room?

[@laurenurban3942]

The victim wasn’t struck by a vehicle. That’s their problem…. And the reason why the trial was hung.

[@michaeljames7854]

The preponderance of proven deceptive occurances in the prosecution's case can only lead in one direction. The defense's case had zero issues deceiving the jury. That's called jury nullification.

[@mick8888V]

Polarized, Yes. That being said, the Jury merely had to weigh the strength of the evidence (largely circumstantial) in the Commonwealth's case and determine whether Karen Read killed (intentionally/unintentionally) JO beyond a reasonable doubt. I am NOT a lawyer nor was I a Juror. I was simply playing along at home. In my opinion, it was the actual investigators that introduced actual doubt themselves by their shoddy and questionable behavior/actions. Putting aside the Alberts and the McCabes' incestial relationship with the police (and meddling in the investigation), they merely didn't prove their case. I too want the person responsible for the death of JO held accountable in hopes the family can find peace. However, there would be no peace, rather only continued uncertainty as to whether the police had had the right person from the start

[@MamaPinks]

Well said! 💯

[@bethryan9077]

It's 5.00 a.m., "Kerry Kerry Kerry" then she hung up because the play-acting was Meant to freak the hell out of that poor woman. It's about 5.05 a.m., she calls back "John's dead, I think he might have been hit by a plough". At about 6.10 a.m., "there he is, let me out of this fucking car". The only one of 3 women who could See a body from the middle of the back seat as the 2 women in the front were looking either side & ahead for John when driving in the middle of a Blizzard, pitch black outside still, no streetlights for the road & the body was about 6 feet back from the kerb at the far left side area of a family's front yard & completely covered in several inches of Snow. Amazing supernatural powers from that evil-eyed devil in a dress. I suppose you would defend that thing even if that body was Your child yeah?

[@bethryan9077]

@@MamaPinks Like any trial, separate the vegetable soup from the chicken pieces. It is Very clear that she is Guilty. There were Two grand jury investigations, the 2nd run by the Feds. And then, the case went to Trial. Here’s how it goes - the more witnesses the prosecution had to put on the stand the More the trial drags out & so, the More work for her circus performers to do & so the Mega bucks that they get from Her. LOL. The best part about the trial is knowing that Read is Broke & she will Always be broke as John's niece & nephew will Sue that Monster to hell & back Next.

[@MamaPinks]

@@bethryan9077 I disagree. How do you throw away blatant evidence from the experts, not hired by the defense, saying that he was not hit by a car?

[@mellowyellow2022]

Very true...good point.

[@gregbedford9706]

Not unless bruising miraculously appears on O'Keefe's torso, legs, feet, other arm, and retroactively search the house on the property where the body was found.

[@idahardy4052]

Why is anyone even still talking about being hit by a vehicle? He wasn’t hit. The vehicle didn’t hit a person. Everybody saw this brought out in the trial and now this appears as just gaslighting.

[@gregorycharles3431]

Could someone please explain how the state can move forward with Jen's 2 am text message?

[@myrnasanjose7985]

Considering the witnesses the prosecution presented, they better not retry and maybe the Canton police force wouldn’t want to retry the case as well! The Defense will dig deeper on evidences against the canton police…and Jackson is good at that!

[@ltee2261]

Exactly and who knows what else will come out between now and any potential re-trial.

[@MissteryDiva]

The FBI will indict The Alberts, Proctor &Tully with their 3,074 page report which includes Karen Read case, Brian Walsh case & Sandra Birchmore‼️

[@bobbiedeleon4845]

Law Professor, messy haired cat lady obviously didn't watch the trial!

[@Sleuth_Squad]

😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤

[@mopthermopther]

more crooked cops😕

[@dailyqwikbytes]

You think there's another kind?

[@Sharon-xb8ve]

​@dailyqwikbytes. Okay when you need a cop.dont call😮

[@doygazgar]

Lally bored and confused them with so many unnecessary witnesses 😅 lally and beverly cannone are su unprofessional at their jobs ? Different town state is a must?

[@rossmelanson6999]

They were definitely dog bites on JO’s arm, Karen did not have a dog 🐕 with her!!

[@Sharon-xb8ve]

No they were not

[@laurenurban3942]

Yes, those were dog bites on his arm. They are not fooling anyone. That man was beaten and attacked by a dog.

[@coffeecake1803]

@@Sharon-xb8veplease watch American Training Dog Standard - I’m betting he’ll testify next time - he did a full video on this

[@rossmelanson6999]

@@Sharon-xb8ve and you believe Biden won the debate!!😂😂😂😂

[@Sharon-xb8ve]

@@rossmelanson6999 bro are you drunk?

[@doygazgar]

People need to remember karen still had the affects of alcohol in her brain plus the shock but its the actual evidence that should be focused on NOTHING MORE?

[@PatriciaHain-uw8vx]

There was so much liquor involved in this event that it makes it difficult to get to the truth🤔

[@fionaryder632]

What does alkohol have to do with the fact that John's wounds don't correspond to being struck by a Car?

[@user-to8hi7tq6g]

How do you explain the dog bytes !!!! Professionals testify that John was not kill by a vehicle!!

[@Chiqi2008]

I don’t see how any juror think she was guilty, the prosecution was not able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. The who case is a doubt. Not one person saw her do it. So she’s innocent as there is no proof and many doubts as to what really happened. I think 2nd degree murder is a big charge for not even having one witness see her do it. What’s wrong with our justice system, there is no justice just speculation and how can you find someone guilty where there are so many questions. Why don’t they try to find who really did it? Is maybe they already know but they are too powerful to charge. Jeffrey Epstein got away with so much for so long cause he was powerful with his money and secrets.

[@laurachristopherson9882]

🎉🎉🎉

[@chadkosakowski3327]

Did they wake this nice lady up for this interview?

[@Sleuth_Squad]

Sure looks like it. Doesn't even look like a law professor would live there. Yikes

[@MamaPinks]

4:21 They tried not to bring Proctor into testify. He wasn't on the prosecution's witness list, and they did what they could to notnhave those awful text messages come out in court for the world to hear. What halpened is exactly what the professor has stated that his name was brought up so many times that they HAD to call him up to the stand instead of waiting for the defense to call him as a hostile witness.

[@LizInTheB]

They knew that if they didn't call him to the stand, that the defense would, so the CW tried to get in front of it by calling Proctor themselves.

[@soledadolivera7478]

This lawyer hadnt seen the trial. The prosecutors saying she killed him because she didnt tak the shoes of. And changng their theory in closing ( now It was not 12.45 and the arm was not extended) was shamefull!

[@angelomia6691]

Didn't you hear the evidence? She was not there.

[@Physco219]

I'm surprised that there was anyone that saw this case as the jury saw it and thought she was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt here. There was just too many questions about the evidence. I am very pleased that Proctor has been kicked. Hos behaviors were more than awful.

[@martystrasinger3801]

Given what happened with Proctor after the hung jury, how could they possibly re-try the case?

[@moey.10]

This does not sound like a law professor who critically analyzes the evidence. She sounds more like a peace-loving "let's compromise" grandmother. Experts said injuries could not be from a car striking him, intentional or not. Not to mention the VERY sus and colluding behaviour from the town's highly connected and influential players at 34 Fairview Ave. And the corrupt investigation and investigators.

[@Sleuth_Squad]

And looks like a crazy cat lady

[@Alextriumph1050]

​@@Sleuth_Squad😅😂😅

[@caseyowens9942]

The real crime is Brian Higgins couldn’t close

[@valiakloeppel7252]

Real crime is the karen led Higgins on. She went to his house for drinks. She kissed him in Johns house. Shes morally rehensible. Higgins is innocent

[@stevebarnes9407]

This law professor should stick with family law

[@christinecupic6871]

The car did not hit the victim, case closed!!

[@kgbsouth]

Just because the tactful jury note stated "some of us" believe not guilty and "some others" do not does NOT mean it was an equitable split vote. We will see if we learn more.

[@lollylolly8186]

I believe the extremely well spoken man who wrote that note didn’t want to give real numbers so as not to give hints as to who or how many.

[@soledadolivera7478]

The problem for the guilty group was that the evidence and experts said she was not there and that he was not hit by a car. Arent they supposed to look at the evidence?

[@clc7763]

Lolly knows the truth, but he's a liar

[@laurenurban3942]

The prosecution never proved that the victim was struck by a car…. Because he wasn’t. The entire case is a sham.

[@bethryan9077]

All pedestrian collision injuries on the Right side - golf ball eye from Right eyebrow, slice on Right eyelid, abrasions Right shoulder, abrasions Right arm, bruise on top of Right hand, abrasion Right side of knee. Broken whole piece of Right taillight. Cops got Right wackjob. You & your like can't picture any other pedestrian collision except being hit from the Front of a car meaning, with a bonnet that is low to the ground, so an impact to the legs with all manner of other injuries due to being flung or falling off the bonnet of the car. Yawn. It is nobody's fault that you also can't figure out how the back of his head slammed onto the edge of the concrete kerb which caused the severe skull fractures & then his brain slowly swelled while he froze to death. Her car kept moving up til just past the border of the trees, no doubt they were arguing, as She said, since they left the Waterfall. John would have been embarrassed that people, His friends, could hear Her, the screaming foul mouthed banshee. JO had just stood up from picking up something, maybe the glass of Vodka that he took off her drunk ass & his right elbow hit the plastic taillight piece, maybe at the last split second he tried to use that elbow to push himself out of the way. His body went forward & from such a weight of that huge car plus the speed, the sideswiping sent him straight backwards. Snow had been coming down, head hit edge of kerb, concrete & grass icy. Tiny fragments of red & clear plastic were in his Clothes. 2 + 2 = 4. Lock that thing up. I don't know why Jack-O-Lantern kept repeating that the body 'went flying' when the cop's car video shows Where the body Was as his car approached the scene. That slimeball kept bangin' on about the body being '30 feet away' from the edge of the road but I suppose for a midget Moron, about 6 foot looks a long way away. LOL. FYI - that SUV was Not a sedan, it didn’t have a Trunk, the system of taillights are many, moulded plastic, higher set. The data from her ten ton Truck shows, she planted her foot to the metal for 62 feet, Instantly doing 24.2 miles per hour. That car was fitted with a screen in front of her face, reversing camera & sensors. The beep beep beep was prevalent as she approached her boyfriend. It got faster when she didn't Stop. The data from her vehicle shows a sudden slight lessening of speed & the wheel turned slightly. Indicative of hitting a pedestrian. A demo was filmed using her car & those exact data entries & showing the brakes brought the car to an immediate stop on an icy road. She didn't slow, stop or even hesitate as the accelerator data Shows. The abrasions on John's right arm are from her right taillight hitting at great force & many blunt edges of many pieces scraped the skin & the blood cells only raise to the surface. No bleeding because there was no breakage of skin. He was wearing two long-sleeved shirts. His body went forward then twisted & the back of his head hit the cement kerb & so the 3" split in the skin on the back of Officer John O'Keefe's head & so, the severe skull fractures. Due to frantic life-saving efforts that continued at the hospital, the left eye ballooned also. Blue/black eyelids is called raccoon eyes & very typical due to skull fractures & blue/black above & a bit below eyes later, same reason. N.B. for all the dumb bums I will explain something else in Simpleton terms - the sensor in her car also means that when she slowly & very deliberately backed into John's car at 5.07 a.m., her drake face was also hearing Beep Beep Beep. Her right hand reached over to press a button, the auto brake assist that she switched Off. The Authentic ring camera video shows the piece of the taillight Missing as she drove off. A cop went to John's house at 8.22 a.m., to see if kids there alone. The video from his car shows, the Same piece missing. Karen Read is a very crafty female who thought she was The most attractive thing on the planet & believed in her demented mind, that All men should fall at her feet. She was lucky enough to be born a Psychopath so the killing of a human being was very Easy for her. She drove to John's house from Fairview & started calling a dying man's phone, the message she left - "John, nobody knows where you are". wtf, really? Her first convo with Jen McCabe after she woke John's poor niece & made Her call Jen then Read spoke -"I was so drunk last night, the last thing I remember was being with John at the Waterfall". Her call to Kerry Roberts - "John's dead, I think he might've been hit by a plough". This was after she had a) driven past the Waterfall as her subterfuge b) gone down Fairview & at some place around there, Saw plough men working. Jen had barely had any Sleep when that call from the niece then the non-stop screaming from the actress but, it was working due to Jen & Kerry's love & care for John & they wanted to Help. Jen told Read, wait, I saw your car at the front of my sister's house after the Waterfall. Read's story kept changing & evolving, up til this Day. Like any trial, separate the vegetable soup from the chicken pieces. It is Very clear that she is Guilty. There were Two grand jury investigations, the 2nd run by the Feds. And then, the case went to Trial. Here’s how it goes - the more witnesses the prosecution had to put on the stand the More the trial drags out & so, the More work for her circus performers to do & so the Mega bucks that they get from Her. LOL. The best part about the trial is knowing that Read is Broke & she will Always be broke as John's niece & nephew will Sue that Monster to hell & back Next. I don't know how Paul contained himself having to watch that rattle snake enjoy herself very many of those days. Back at the beginning, Yanetti on the courthouse steps & the announcement for the TV cameras "it was an accident, she didn't mean to hit him". Then along came a little spider from the bright lights of LA Land & he saw Big dollars signs & a fable was born against all those at the after-party, against every serving police officer in the State & against all medical responders for 50 miles. That evil-eyed serpent spent 1 million on a PR campaign to make a whole lot of numpties, cop haters & Ritas, into her turtle Mutant cult members. Congrats. And BTW - as much as she laughed, smiled & smirked all through the trial, she is doing Same about You. It's 5.00 a.m., "Kerry Kerry Kerry" then she hung up because the play-acting was Meant to freak the hell out of that poor woman. It's about 5.05 a.m., she calls back "John's dead, I think he might have been hit by a plough". At about 6.10 a.m., "there he is, let me out of this fucking car". The only one of 3 women who could See a body from the middle of the back seat as the 2 women in the front were looking either side & ahead for John when driving in the middle of a Blizzard, pitch black outside still, no streetlights for the road & the body was about 6 feet back from the kerb at the far left side area of a family's front yard & completely covered in several inches of Snow. Amazing supernatural powers from that evil-eyed devil in a dress. I suppose you would defend that thing even if that body was Your child yeah?

[@lisacole690]

Yeah, they could offer an intermediary scenario if he had any injuries that were consistent with being hit by a car. But he doesn’t.

[@Pink_143_6]

I’ve mentioned the Karen Read case to 2 of my friends who reside in the Boston area and they have not heard of the Karen Read trial or the death of Boston police officer John Okeefe.

[@paulaheckman9928]

They live in caves? Or Amish perhaps?

[@cryptid726]

I'm kind jealous, they avoid the hate that comes along with a opinion. I think Karen is innocent but if someone could show me evidence of guilt then I'll change my mind.

[@sooz5703]

Without much prior knowledge of the case I watched the trial. You don't have to believe the alternative theory to know he wasn't hit by a car.

[@lindafinch1520]

I hope KR defense team is looking into how to get Judge Bev recused before the retrial of KR. If you look up the laws of ethics for superior court judges in Massachusetts, not only is Bev guilty of being biased but also of deliberately harassing and/or allowing others in her court room to harass Karen Read. The court room was deliberately set up to intimidate KR and her defense team, in so many ways.

[@laurachristopherson9882]

POK stared angrily with arms crossed at KR most of the trial. This was directly across from jury I believe. He sat mere feet from KR. He should’ve been moved or removed from that seat in courtroom. Just another tactic to sway the jurors from finding KR not guilty. I don’t believe he conspired with the McAlberts. I believe he is experiencing grief anger and lapse of memory etc. Coping skills are gone. Basing his decisions on damaged emotions and instinct. Not in his right mind. He’s suffering tremendously. No one should be allowed maintain line of sight within feet of defendant and project such vile anger through body language and eyes. Judge is incompetent and biased in favor of prosecution. So many elements in this trial point to a stacked and unfair trial. Bet KR knows what JOK knew and people want her quiet one way or another. Don’t look the other way. The truth is right in front of our eyes.

[@dawnt.7735]

They’re supposed to set their feelings aside and only use the testimony and evidence, why didn’t the judge remind them of this?

[@bronwyn117]

The coroner testified this his injuries were not consistent with being hit by a car. How do you ignore that?

[@doygazgar]

If a retrial it will definitely be a NOT GUILTY VERDICT 😅 lally myst stick with the same evidence and testimonies 😅 the defence can change their game anyway they like 😅

[@George-cl6lt]

Keep in mind that Dr Scordi - Bello saw O'keefe's actual body in 3D or better, not 2D photos. “Any blunt object” could have struck him and caused his injuries, she said. They “could be” consistent with a fall to the ground, she added. Scordi-Bello said she saw no signs of a “significant altercation,” but she also said it's possible that some of the injuries to his face could have been caused by a punch.Jun 21, 2024"

[@wldncrzy1971]

Except HE WASN’T HIT BY A VEHICLE. This keeps escaping these attorneys on news cycles 🤦🏼‍♀️ Lally has to drop this. He’ll never get a conviction.

[@turtletruth]

You're either a person helping mankind, or a policeman! - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)

[@TroyJScott]

Well Said!!

[@edwinodus]

Well, we still need to know who the defendant is going to be in a retrial.. lol

[@foxandbearbrothers6405]

Good one 😂!

[@b.spradley784]

He had animal bite marks, consistent with a large dog, on his forearm. That means he was in the house. Other injuries not from being hit by a car. Karen is innocent.

[@ritaeichler2066]

All prosecutor needs to do is prove beyond what is reasonable that john never went inside that house, which i believe, they did but Lolly mentioned it in passing rather than strongly focusing & proving that on 4 pcs of evidence..A. John phone lo cking down time & data location. @ 12:25 am at spot he was found B. Multiple ppl in & out of house did not see him enter or in the house that night including Karen(as she said during initial police interview) c. His body laid on grass with no snow under his body where he laid after being struck for 5 hrs up until READ found him. D. His shattered shot glass, missing shoe, micro pcs of tailight @ crime scene, and of course Johns DNA on her SUV back housing of tailight. Once its proven he did not enter the house , she will be found guilty despite defense false narratives & experts who had no idea about physical evidence found . Guilty of manslaughter

[@tomcaswell7053]

NO ONE is speaking about Judge AUNT BEV ? she should have never been allowed to be the Judge on this case Alberts & MacCabes both KNOw aka AUNT BEV

[@xyx2977]

You say... What evidence... The fact is the jury members who voted 'guilty' did so in my opinion because she was driving a vehicle.

[@laurenurban3942]

Nobody saw anything…no SUV going fast in reverse, no body on the front lawn…. Something about this case stinks to high heaven… but I could never lean towards a conviction with their evidence and those witnesses. It was one low life after the next on that stand….

[@TroyJScott]

The guilty votes were from mindless BOOTLICKING morons

[@BellaNY00]

​@@laurenurban3942You sound like a lowlife!

[@Alexcox-0718]

I imagine that someone on the jury is a member of a local PD.

[@user-ut3ft4qn5f]

I can’t believe the CW wants to trial this again after Proctor lol Jackson is going to rip the CW up in 45 pieces

[@bettybudzinski6602]

Charge Alberts and Higgins bet guilty verdict happens! They all look guilty from day one

[@jfk32975]

But were is the compassion for the OKeefes

[@MamaPinks]

It's there. I just want the truth of how he died to come out, not have a witch hunt for someone they didn't like to protect themselves. It breaks my heart that the O'keefe family has to continue to go through all of this. The real killer(s) need to be held accountable so that family can start to heal.

[@timothyfreeseha4056]

One thing that has come out in this trial is that , apart from a few people, the majority of people on either side of this case do feel for the Okeefes. A failure- in my view, is that a lot distracted from the victim of this crime, John Okeefe, in the pursuit of blaming others.

[@TroyJScott]

Okeefe was a snake amongst a den of snakes. Pick better friends, not scumbag lying cops!

[@francesleonboyer9276]

Why does the Commonwealth not investigate…. Why Their Chief didn’t investigate the Clan… why they didn’t investigate the house. KR Free👍

[@shortbusautorepair]

A hung jury occurs when a jury is unable to reach a unanimous verdict, indicating that some jurors believe the defendant is guilty, while others do not. This can happen in both criminal and civil trials. In a criminal trial, a hung jury means that the defendant is not convicted, but neither are they acquitted. Key Takeaways: A hung jury is a situation where jurors cannot agree on a verdict, indicating that some believe the defendant is guilty. In a criminal trial, a hung jury means the defendant is not convicted, but neither are they acquitted. The jury is considered “hung” when there are insufficient jurors voting one way or the other to deliver a verdict. The judge may direct the jury to deliberate further, usually no more than once or twice, before declaring a mistrial due to the hung jury.

[@ericalameda8502]

EVERY1 WAS DRUNK. VIDEO SHOW EVERYONE HAD MORE THEN 6 DRINKS. SO EVERY1 SHOULD BE CHARGE WITH DUI. And don't leave ur badge behind

[@beastshawnee]

And this lawyer…(?) wtf?! Did she NOT HEAR the MULTIPLE proofs that the car NEVER STRUCK JOHN AT ALL?! That the arm was repeated DOG BITES?! My friend got attacked by a dog- a german shepherd. He was bicycling for a delivery across a grocery lot. His bites looked the same except even deeper punctures. The evidence is clear of a frame up.

[@user-ut3ft4qn5f]

There is no jury that will all find her guilty. Never 👎

[@angelagendvilas6814]

If anyone on that jury were on trial in a sham of a case like this one, full of lies, butt dials and butt hang ups, shady 911 call, rehomed dog, remodeled basement and house sold, phones destroyed the day before they were to be turned in, deciding it was Karen right away with no evidence, no tail light found that day, tail light couldn't have been broken in the way they said so who put the tail light pieces (the whole tail light!) in a direct line to his body? HOW could any jury no see doubt? They would not want a jury like them if they were innocent and on trial. Sad. Spend the hour of closing on reasonable doubt and list ALL of it. that's it. Case closed. Not hit by a vehicle. Case closed. Craziest thing I've ever seen. And scary!!

[@kristibriley4483]

Instead of a retrial with likely the same results, I think a real investigation is needed. Let see the phone data of the people in the house and their movements. Let’s search the basement. I think it’s fair to let them defend themselves, just as Karen had to. Let’s see who’s telling the truth, because we now know that proctor was laser focused on Karen immediately and the ‘Boston cop’ wouldn’t ’catch any s***’

[@Jlisa21]

They all got rid of their phones so unfortunately that probably won’t happen.

[@kristibriley4483]

@@Jlisa21 i think you can still subpoena phone records from the company itself-but I’m no expert-and maybe not if they’re burner phones 🤷‍♀️ there has to be more than can be done that was purposefully avoided the first time I would assume

[@charmcshane3517]

Both were drunk as skunks. What if John got out, went behind car, saw something on ground, bent down to pick it up AT THE EXACT SAME TIME Karen backed up? His head and tail light collide, sends him flying. That explains no other severe body damage. The arm damage is a true mystery. I live in San Francisco. Late last year, at 4:30am i go outside and there is an absolutely beautiful and big coyote in the front yard. I wished I had a steak, left over burger, anything to give him. I was trying to get him to come to me. I'm 6 foot, had a big black puffer coat and hood on. He wasn't going to tangle, get close to Bigfoot😅!! I had seen 2 others, prior, by city colledge, very woodsy there. Anyways, maybe a coyote came by and chewed his arm.

[@coffeecake1803]

You didn’t believe the Scientists, eh?

[@TroyJScott]

The dog bite came from Chloe, the one the owners then got rid of….

[@charmcshane3517]

@@TroyJScott Well, they can visit Chloe in Vermont and do a casting of her jaws on an "arm replica" dummy. See if it matches John's. If it does, YOU'RE RIGHT!!! If it doesn't............

[@Rach33ful]

@charmcshane3517 I agree that John was probably bending down at the time of impact. After Karen left John on the road, I think the snow plow driver caught his hand with the plough (not the reported basketball hoop) which caused the injuries to John's arm. Then John was moved from the road to the flagpole for someone else to find...

[@coffeecake1803]

@@Rach33ful so you don’t believe the Scientusts, eh? The ones hired by the FBI. The ones that have military contracts. Okay?

[@smiletoshowyoucare]

This reporter is so obviously bias. The FBI expert said he was NOT hit with a car. He has no dog in the issue so he’s definitely not going to lie.

[@WildSoftail]

What about the Albert's and Jen McCabe sitting in on trial the day the jury was handed the case??? State witnesses sitting in on trial the same day jury begins deliberations ....why were they permitted to sit in?

[@beastshawnee]

Someone needs to teach this reporter to not say “mm-hmm” so quickly because we can tell she is NOT listening to the answer…just already onto her next question. It sounds very dismissive and rude.

[@dragonabsurda]

The public discourse around this trial has me feeling like I'm taking crazy pills or am living in the Twilight Zone. I don't know anyone in MA. I don't know any of the people in this trial, nor do I particularly want to. I watched the trial because it presented interesting legal questions. This is where the trial led me to: I do not understand how medical examiners and biomedical engineers all testify that the injuries to the victim and damage to the vehicle are NOT consistent with a vehicle strike, yet the media's response is legal analysts who theorize that "maybe if we present the theory that she didn't hit him on purpose, a jury can convict," while glossing over or completely ignoring troubling issues with the Commonwealth's case. Is the purpose of a trial to convict any accused, damn the facts, or to administer fair and impartial justice? "Presumption of innocence" does not mean "innocent until proven guilty." It means "innocent UNLESS proven guilty." Despite this, this analyst talks of amending the charges to increase chances of conviction. If we pursue retribution at the expense of justice and convict the wrong person, we add more bodies to the criminal's tally.

[@Briggette12]

Not surprised? No one asked them to solve who did it. Just needed reasonable doubt. That was done!

[@mitch6969123]

Once you catch Proctor in a lie, all his other testimony is tainted

[@DN-kz7xl]

Offering an intermediate sentence to the jury leaves me astounded. Surely reasonable doubt should be found not guilty. That does not mean someone is innocent. BUT just deciding to agree on e.g. second degree murder because half the jury believes the person to be innocent vs the other half believing guilty. You get instructed to vote your conscious, but get pushed to sway to get a verdict. That is not justice.

[@dt-jy1ig]

Stopped listening pretty quick. Can’t believe she was an observer to this trial

[@debrashawcross170]

Analysis the CORRUPTION!

[@DRBR-2020]

Time to drop the case...

[@PsychNurseExplains]

It’s a lie she drove by at 5am

[@jeanebelleavoine3591]

Why should she be convicted at all if she didn't do it. I wouldn't do a a plea bargain

[@Alextriumph1050]

A plea bargain is almost admitting guilt. Innocent people should never do this.

[@makamurphy]

My husband have no idea what this case is at all lol he doesnt follow any crime or trials lol

[@joannwillits5129]

Cover up for police that these so called experts of the law must make the woman guilty . There was ample proof he was not hit by 🚗.

[@michaelbittinger3077]

This lady saying they didn't give him any options they had a whole lot of options vehicular manslaughter with a while driving under the influence they could have had they said several charges that's what the border was about whenever the judge forgot to put not guilty on the paper they had several charges they could have found her guilty of so when she said it was just polarizing there was no intermediate this lady is wrong

[@maryshea603]

OR, they're too ignorant to know science and high school maths. The SUV didn't do it.

[@tirdadderakhshani1940]

Please try to interview 'experts' who actually spent a little time paying attention to the actual trial - and the actual evidence presented at that trial. Mainstream media coverage of this case is based on absurd assumptions borne of total blissful ignorance. Do your homework, people.

[@moey.10]

Typical MSM..."tell me what you're going to say first, and then we'll decide if that's the narrative we're trying to push."

[@JoJo-vv9rs]

I don't think he was hit by a car however you had Jennifer McCabe on the stand swearing that she saw a dark vehicle that was Karen Reed outside at 12:45 up until 1:00 and there's proof that Karen Reed was at John's house by 12:36 so what about another introduced possibility of another car just a random person driving down the road they're timelines their info everything got so screwed up they switched it about five times throughout this trial

[@doygazgar]

CW will never win 😅 if they call proctor he'll have to explain his relieved duties 😅 if they don't then the defence will call him out on opening statements 😅

[@BellaNY00]

Hey dumb dumb Proctor wouldn't be called because it would be a Brady! You obviously have no clue what your talking about.

[@Carabsn]

No we don’t want a retrial. Waste of money. Paid proctor for what?

[@PsychNurseExplains]

Why give in, The Prosecution has a great case.

[@angelagendvilas6814]

I suspect Bev told them not to talk to anyone publicly due to the mass support for KR

[@Sleuth_Squad]

But it's not illegal if they do

[@sunshine22723]

The pyscho must fess up she did it.

[@usakiwi1986]

This Professor is great!

[@Joseph-ut4ui]

Police misconduct causes a felony trial to turn into a giant shit-show? Wow, that's a shocker!

[@polynesia8733]

pick a professor that looks the part. not someone who just got up and looks like she needs to brush her teeth

[@paulaheckman9928]

😮

[@deirdregahansuttle5698]

Wow defending Proctor. Of course he needs to keep the ignorant cops on his side. Discusting.

[@valiakloeppel7252]

Totally agree with this professor. Charges should not have been upgraded. Believe she unwittingly killed him.

[@isola-bella]

How?

[@vegefranz]

FBI expert testified he was not killed by a car

[@Sharon-xb8ve]

​@@vegefranzwhere were the FBI experts? If he wasn't hit by a car what caused his injuries did they say?

[@laurenurban3942]

He wasn’t hit by a vehicle… he was beaten up and attacked by a dog.

[@Sharon-xb8ve]

@@laurenurban3942 by who and why NO DOG DNA what don't you get?

[@sigridtoms4282]

International, it was on the "welt news" in Germany

[@ritayoung6040]

The judge cannot be changed

[@lilithstribe]

I appreciate this professor though I disagree with giving the Jury an alternative charge of manslauter. Prosecution is stuck with their current charges. The Defense would do better to focus on the myriad of avenues to reasonable doubt instead of the conspiracies. Let's wait and see if the State actually retries this case however.

[@gaylemattsson4166]

It is world wide

[@Carabsn]

You don’t know the how the jurors decided. Was it 1 guilty or 2 or 10. You don’t know so stop making it up - period

[@etismith682]

He messed heavily with the investigation. Made a very poor job.

[@spicyirwin5835]

If Karen wouldve made plea deal that it was an accident & it'd be all over & now she has to live with her conscious. Karma