Wohlwill Electrolytic Gold Refining Cell Part 2

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@woonsockettruthseeker9009
@woonsockettruthseeker9009 Жыл бұрын
Rhode Island police officer. Can't get enough of your content. We appreciate the time it takes to bring it to us. I'm saving some cash for a purchase like this someday. Love to you and your family. Thanks for supporting my brothers and sisters in blue 👍
@azdrifter51
@azdrifter51 4 жыл бұрын
what was cool was watching the stir bar increase in speed when you added water, showing just how dense the solution was with devolved gold
@Miketz
@Miketz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video, I have assumed it was possible but had not come across anybody actually doing it. Just a couple of pointers for the electrical side of things that you seem to be a little unsure of: The only absolute value is the current. This will dictate the speed of the reaction, which will determine the properties of the deposition. If all you are after is pure gold to be melted, go fast and go hard. If you are wanting a specific result, (such as a smooth coating) then slow and steady at a lower current will give you what you need. However, there are variables: The surface area of the electrodes, their separation distance, the conductivity and temperature of the electrolyte and the supply voltage is adjusted to accommodate for these variables to deliver the desired current. I believe your current was about right for your setup, any higher and the temperature of your electrolyte would have increased too much. To get the hundreds of amps of the original process, you'd need a much larger volume of solution to keep it from boiling.
@Enjoymentboy
@Enjoymentboy 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a school trip to the royal canadian mint when I was young. They used this same process essentially with the only real difference being they used titanium cathodes. That part always stuck with me because when I was a kid titanium was this magical super metal that only nasa and the military used. But good for you sir. You are purifying gold to the same high level of the RCM!!!
@bobedwards8896
@bobedwards8896 4 жыл бұрын
titanium still my fav material
@1978coors
@1978coors 4 жыл бұрын
Actually I made this very suggestion on sreetips silver cell video. But using titanium. I was curious if it would work with carrot gold
@matthewmichaels1046
@matthewmichaels1046 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. I have watched many of your videos. I always wondered if the gold solution weighed more and I've always wondered if you could make a gold cell. Great video.. one day I will do what you do and you've brought me that much closer. Thank you
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I made a gold cell. In that video I measure the weight of liquid with gold in it and without the gold, just plain water. It’s titled Wohlwill Process
@jameskeal8957
@jameskeal8957 Жыл бұрын
It just amazes me what you can achieve in your experiments. I'm glued to the screen watching your videos with amazement of your products you achieve. Thank you for allowing your viewers to experience. What most people are unable to experience for themselves.
@arnedalbakk6315
@arnedalbakk6315 10 ай бұрын
Hello Mrs and Mr Sreetips. This is not only pure gold. This is art. 🔥 Never ever bored to see this excellent clip. Thank you. God bless you🙏🔥
@sreetips
@sreetips 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@gregkretchmer3588
@gregkretchmer3588 3 жыл бұрын
As I understand the process, you can do this with most metals, you just need the electrolyte to contain a salt of the metal your after. You could use mixed copper metal, for a lower cost experiment, say a nickel coin, which is mostly copper with copper sulfate as the electrolyte with a bit of sulfuric acid added, any contaminates will turn into a slime on the bottom of the beaker, in this case, the nickel metal. Your gold experiment did not have enough contaminates to show up as slim and the electrolyte is still loaded with gold, but it is fully reusable and I'd say this was an excellent video. Try it with 14 k gold and notice the silver on the bottom. Or, you could use a silver salt electrolyte and end up with gold on the bottom. As a note, some metals are ok to deal with as metal, but as salts, they are very toxic, like nickel.
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof Жыл бұрын
Now you got me sitting here staring it my gold ring on one hand in my titanium ring on the other thinking I don't need these all that badly I guess I could sacrifice them to the god of learning with little regret
@johnh8615
@johnh8615 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting so long for you to do this. Wow . Do a slow experiment in gold crystal. Anode and cathode in solution, in gold electrolyte. And power it with two dissimilar metals in electrolyte( the lowest volts and amps) for a year. Bam. Then out pops the most beautiful slow gold crystal ever. Just like the Tucson gem show. A masterpiece to sell for a master dollar.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
I made a note of your comment for future reference. Sounds interesting.
@georgemclean825
@georgemclean825 Жыл бұрын
Another great video sir! I was engrossed from start to finish and thoroughly enjoyed it.
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect the gold was coming out of solution as crystals since you saturated it while boiling. Recrystallization is a common method for purifying a compound dissolved in a solvent. That's probably some pretty pure gold. It might even be more pure than what you'd get by using sodium metabisulfate. You could put some of the electrolyte in the fridge or even freezer (don't actually freeze it) to get more. It might be interesting to see how pure it tests out doing it that way.
@wadehampton1534
@wadehampton1534 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful experiment, sreetips! And I subscribed to Dr. Young's channel too! I'm an amateur watch servicer/repairer, and I sometimes re-plate watch cases and bracelets with gold or nickel. We set up a similar electrolytic cell for the plating process.
@Kenneth_H_Olsen
@Kenneth_H_Olsen 3 жыл бұрын
Canadian royal mint used Titanium cathode and gold anode in the same acid bath . In the video he just scraped the gold off the titanium plate . And could be used again . A surprising low voltage and a surprising large ampere . Great work man . I'm a subscriber . The Egyptians and incas did the EXACT same thing . In caves using plant juices . Did i say caves ? I mean megaithic stone constructions . Secret chambers . High science
@gregschaust4298
@gregschaust4298 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome. I am happy that it worked. My thought as to why they used a higher current power supply in the book was to increase the speed of the process. If you are planning on doing this in the future, you could always melt the high purity gold and reform it for another use in the cell.
@speedonz
@speedonz 4 жыл бұрын
They were probably using a larger anode.
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
The operative value is current density. In the book, the cathode area was vastly larger, so a higher total current is necessary to obtain the desired current density. To keep the current density relatively constant, they use multiple anodes and cathodes. Another factor that affects the current density is the spacing between the anodes and cathodes.
@jennyferfarias971
@jennyferfarias971 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what is the name of the book?
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
If you taper the anode, so it is thinner and narrower as you progress towards the bottom, you should minimize or even eliminate any of the anode falling off.
@arnedalbakk6315
@arnedalbakk6315 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mrs and Mr sreetips. This is only not refining, but truly a masterpice. Like you say sir.. A pice of art. In my eyes.... So close to 1000. So clean gold... Thank you🌹
@kylecissell958
@kylecissell958 4 жыл бұрын
That’s incredible how well that worked. Those crystals are really cool looking. Awesome video as usual Sreetips 👍
@samw5767
@samw5767 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable production values and professional working environment in all of your youtubes. Also, remarkably steady hands in pouring out solutions of pregnant liquor (envy here)... The 'Wohlwill' video above: very instructive. Obviously, you could scale it up by running several of your beaker electrolytic at a time cells in parallel. Some authorities say it's possible to get .99999 purity this way; although this might be two x through the Wohlwill process. Three suggestions for Wohlwill (and not to go against Hoke, but to tweak her just a bit): 1. I would make sure that the stirring bar rotates at slowest possible speed (say, 30 rpm) so as not to raise up any slimes settling at the bottom of your beaker, and have them get trapped by the gold crystals forming at the Cathode; 2. Separating your Anode from your Cathode another few centimeters wouldn't hurt, again to prevent any possible impurities at the Anode. The process will take longer. 3. Hoke recommends 1.5v; a lower voltage will of say even 1v will help slow down the inevitable contamination of your electrolyte after repeated batches, as well as ensuring the purity of your final prodcut. Of course, this will take considerably more time, too.
@SURFEAMORETERNO
@SURFEAMORETERNO 3 жыл бұрын
Well observed friend! 400mA / Dcm² of the cathode would also delay the operation much more, but would cause the gold to settle in metallic form.
@mikeconnery4652
@mikeconnery4652 2 жыл бұрын
I learn so much just by reading your comments. What a great forum
@MasterCommandCEO
@MasterCommandCEO 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! I love your content but this one is definitely at the top of the must watch list!
@superdad-ls2id
@superdad-ls2id 4 жыл бұрын
You also just made the worlds coolest gold coin...very cool...I'm blown away...you have me wanting to make gold crystal...amazing...thank you
@Alex-kp3hr
@Alex-kp3hr Жыл бұрын
Nice video, but you have to have gold in solid form to do the electrolysis process. Most of us don't. That's why I'm sticking to 3 refines in AR to get close to the same purity. Cheers
@annualgiftman9472
@annualgiftman9472 4 жыл бұрын
That is amazing, good to see you didn't have any trouble!
@AJ-ox6yi
@AJ-ox6yi 3 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious that you said morel mushroom. That's exactly what I was thinking. Maybe because that is one of my 2 favorite hobbies - gold and mushroom picking.
@burlbark
@burlbark 4 жыл бұрын
I had an experience exposing gold concentrates under a 2'x3' magnifying glass. Temperature exceeded melting point. The gold crystallized out of the concentrates very similar. My only conclusion is that the high concentration of UV light caused the crystalline growth. Very neat....!
@justanotherfreakinchannel9069
@justanotherfreakinchannel9069 3 жыл бұрын
So, if it was 220.5g lighter with water than with the chloroauric acid, and there was only 160.5g of gold in the solution, does that mean that the same volume of aqua regia weighs 60g more than the water?? I would not have expected that, I always kind of had an assumption that the acid was less heavy per unit volume than water! 😅
@richardwolanin4213
@richardwolanin4213 4 жыл бұрын
It does look like a Morel mushroom! Our season for morels starts in about 2 weeks up here in Boyne City, Michigan.
@MichaelClark-uw7ex
@MichaelClark-uw7ex 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. When you add straight Hydrochloric to Gold, it won't dissolve because the atoms of Gold leave solution as fast as they are dissolved, the electric current causes the dissolved Gold atoms to follow the current flow and leave solution at the cathode end of the current flow. You're taking advantage of the natural reaction, very tricky, well done.
@lingamsethu
@lingamsethu 2 жыл бұрын
In an electrolytic solution corresponding metal as ions not atoms
@lingamsethu
@lingamsethu 2 жыл бұрын
An atom is electrically neutral where as ion is charged
@mikeconnery4652
@mikeconnery4652 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you now I understand
@SpartanONegative
@SpartanONegative Жыл бұрын
You made it look easy. Thank you for showing us how to do this. God Bless 🙏
@olawlor
@olawlor 4 жыл бұрын
4 amps seems a bit high for that small of a cathode; it's likely to be a bit less fuzzy if you grow it more slowly at lower amps. I've never done gold, but when the anode and cathode are the same metal with copper or silver, you only need a tiny voltage, 0.1v or less, to push the ions across successfully, and the slower they move, the more ordered the crystal. Of course, Faraday's Law tells you how much longer it will take to move a certain amount of metal over, and it can take a week to get a few grams at low currents.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
I was going by the instructions in the book. I had zero experience with this.
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Yep. The book is concerned with recovery and refining of precious metals. Getting pretty crystals is of zero interest. But Orion is correct, a lower current density will produce larger crystals.
@cdeichhorn
@cdeichhorn 4 жыл бұрын
I use the Shor refining unit. I learned to make my Gold Anode in the shape of a wedge and attaching the thicker part to the end of heavy wire so it completely dissolves and doesn’t drop in a piece.
@bpxtn3
@bpxtn3 4 жыл бұрын
Chuck Eichhorn @sreetips
@xmachine7003
@xmachine7003 4 жыл бұрын
I concur
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that... Ensures there's nothing thicker hanging off of something thinner about to break off
@shaneyork300
@shaneyork300 4 жыл бұрын
It was worth the wait! B E A Utiful!! I think you're right it looks like a yellow sponge mushroom!!! Have a GREAT Day!!!!
@TerribleShmeltingAccident
@TerribleShmeltingAccident 2 жыл бұрын
i would love to see this experiment re-ran with the same level of detail you showed to the setup being applied to all variables involved. You spent so much time setting up the physical layout but paid absolutely no mind to ensuring you had a top notch, low noise, near to perfect constant-voltage power source or any top tier temperature regulation. Imagine this done with the perfect physical layout, perfect power regulated source of current, and the temperature was controlled down to the thousandth of a degree. If you wanna be a chemist, mr sreetips, be the gold standard :)
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a chemist. I took a chemistry class about 50 years ago in high school and got a “D” - you don’t have to be a chemist to refine precious metals.
@TerribleShmeltingAccident
@TerribleShmeltingAccident 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips my apologies Sreetips. If I can explain: 1. This was my attempt at humor, you know the "gold standard" comment. 2. I actually would be interested in that video because you have the process as it stands down pat & the only thing I could possibly think of to improve it would be my original comment. I apologize that I was unable to convey the message in the way I was trying to. At the end of the day I love your videos and am in awe at the levels of success you have in a non professional environment. Lastly I have NOT been lucky enough to speak from experience. I am not saying that if u upgrade those variables that u will get a different result, I am merely speculating. I respect your expertise my friend...I apologize if I conveyed anything other than that
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
No foul, thank you
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 4 жыл бұрын
Once again this is fascinating.The gas hood is sounding worse and worse as time passes. Great to see this success. The smile tells a lot. Your video is done and you will be pleased I am sure. It will take a coupe weeks to get it edited and posted my friend. My editor has more than just myself he does videos for.Take care my friend !
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Great, thank you!
@anthoneyking6572
@anthoneyking6572 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Job my love is the silver Crystals cell its so pretty to look at great Vlog thanks
@Obishman
@Obishman 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sreetips, awesome video! are you sure that the first bottle precipitate was metalic gold? it looks like gold chloride crystals to me, perhaps the solution became over saturated at room temp and that causes gold chloride cristals to precipitate.
@TheReapersGrim117
@TheReapersGrim117 4 жыл бұрын
Hey sreetips, not sure if using water in the beaker to measure the difference in weight is the proper way to make an apt comparison due to the difference in density of electrolyte and water. I believe the correct scientifically accurate measurement would be to add the leftover electrolyte back into the beaker and measure from there - someone correct me if im wrong only commenting bc this channel is awesome and i love how accurate it tries to be; great vid!!!
@shayne3190
@shayne3190 4 жыл бұрын
Gordon Chace actually the 100% proper way would be to use aqua regia. The electrolyte was being constantly replenished with gold from the anode.
@MassaRiaIVSidikalang
@MassaRiaIVSidikalang 4 жыл бұрын
@@shayne3190 I Thank You
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
As long as the volumes are the same, it is perfectly accurate. He was measuring weight difference, not specific gravity or density or some other solute/solvent dependent variable.
@MrZondan
@MrZondan 4 жыл бұрын
So you've made one bit of gold bigger, whilst making the other one smaller ? Moved gold from one electrode to the other. Not sure this was the point of the experiment was it
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
To see if I could do it. And for you to see how it's done.
@arnedalbakk6315
@arnedalbakk6315 3 жыл бұрын
Have a very good Christmas and a happy New year. Thanks for all Nice vidio clip. I see forways to follow you in 2022. Take care my friend, and good bless you and your famelimembers💞 Thanks😊
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Same to you - thank you
@arnedalbakk6315
@arnedalbakk6315 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr sreetips 😊
@alexandrebaccega5311
@alexandrebaccega5311 4 жыл бұрын
congratulations professor. you are the best.
@PigMine6
@PigMine6 4 жыл бұрын
That crystal is absolutely amazing!
@peliroja7425
@peliroja7425 3 жыл бұрын
Who knew you could grow gold???!!! Amazing!
@sasilva187
@sasilva187 4 жыл бұрын
What book did you get this experiment from sir?
@donovanclips
@donovanclips 3 жыл бұрын
wondering same thing here
@kevjones4838
@kevjones4838 3 жыл бұрын
I took calculus in college. No more logs and with respect to whatever function or constant for me! It seems like another language but if anyone takes enough time they can understand what the dude is saying at least somewhat but the answers wont add value or improve your life or anything lol. The crystals grown were pretty sweet! I'm surprised Sreetips wasn't sure he could pull this experiment off! I have extreme confidence in his refining abilities!
@hippyhebrewhomestead8593
@hippyhebrewhomestead8593 Жыл бұрын
This is so stinking cool sreetips, I just bought my first hot plate and looking at filter flasks right now.
@chrisharris1522
@chrisharris1522 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could grow larger crystals by slowing the reaction down similar to the silver cell, still very cool experiment, not many people get to play with pure gold like this
@meanboycoins6250
@meanboycoins6250 4 жыл бұрын
Omg I laughed for 10 minutes when you said” ya it made it bigger”🤣🤣🤣
@wernerhiemer406
@wernerhiemer406 4 жыл бұрын
Dents. Wood would been better or leather.
@davidmonroe6051
@davidmonroe6051 2 жыл бұрын
Totally random thought: You use a silver cell system to process out pure silver from mixed metals. You use a similar setup here to crystalize out the gold. Could you setup a series or processes to process first silver, then the solid "waste" being processed the same way for gold, then a similar process for platinum or palladium? Or am I just totally confused?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly
@mikeconnery4652
@mikeconnery4652 2 жыл бұрын
You might be able to set multiple cells for different operations
@JamesSkellington-xj8nn
@JamesSkellington-xj8nn Жыл бұрын
This was a Great Video ! But what made the Cathode Connection to turn black all of a sudden ?
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
Science!
@Eric-nu3wh
@Eric-nu3wh 4 жыл бұрын
cant you elecrto-plate some silver on those clamps?
@jam2190
@jam2190 3 жыл бұрын
We NEED AN UPDATE, or some kinda follow up. Are you still got a gold cell running, like the silver one?
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
No, I did the gold cell experiment once about a year ago
@jam2190
@jam2190 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips oh ok then. I was jus rewatching this video, and curiously about it. Thanks for the swift reply
@garrysshelton
@garrysshelton 3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered saving these up and pouring a one ounce .9999 Bar? I think that would be SO cool!
@garrysshelton
@garrysshelton 3 жыл бұрын
TY for the EMail - I had forgotten about this Vid - Keep 'em coming, Sreetips! :)
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@jimwednt1229
@jimwednt1229 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you did it !
@NOBOX7
@NOBOX7 4 жыл бұрын
did you use Hokes book ?
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I’m still finding new things to apply to refining as I continue to read her book
@christofour217
@christofour217 4 жыл бұрын
It is an interesting item. Can you tell us why the Gold does not form larger crystals like the Silver?
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Christo Four experiment with current flow may make a difference
@MassaRiaIVSidikalang
@MassaRiaIVSidikalang 4 жыл бұрын
massa jenis molekul atom pada perak jauh berbeda dengan emas Pak..! 🙏😊 translate it from Indonesian
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
Different numbers of electrons in the outer shells produces different physical characteristics.
@stayready6170
@stayready6170 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if what you had leftover of the anode weighed 1.11 grams. That would be interesting. Does the pure gold that crystalizes come specifically from the Anode or does some of it come from the electrolyte?
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
It comes from the anode bar as it dissolves in the electrolyte.
@nickapuzzo1299
@nickapuzzo1299 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. Was waiting a long time to see this. It's 5 p.m. Eastern and still no bids with 5 hours left to the auction. If it doesn't sell, makeup one gram packages for $100 starting bid on each. I'd gladly pay that, these crystals are special, but not easily liquidatable bullion. To get 1700 Worth, as a curiosity, is beyond my means. Second comment / question is: I noticed that you're keeping your silver cell free of any base metals buy re-refining crystal, but wasn't an excess of copper creating more interesting crystals? I thought you had mentioned something like that. I wouldn't end this experiment, to see larger crystals would be awesome, as well as more valuable. Again, outstanding job. Thanks
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, copper in the electrolyte makes better crystals. I'm doing the crystal re-refine because it was requested.
@patrickaussieMilartry
@patrickaussieMilartry 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video absolutely cool I'm going to give this a go. Awesome!!!
@سیدجلیلمیرکاظمنژادفروهی
@سیدجلیلمیرکاظمنژادفروهی Жыл бұрын
سلام خدمت استاد گرامی استاد ایندو الکترود ازطلای خالص هستند ؟ عیار اند وکاتد رالطف کنید وایا برای خاک یا سنگ پودر شده طلا هم کاربردش وچگونگی اند وکاتد صادق است
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
The cathode is made from a 999 fine gold coin rolled thin
@josephcormier5974
@josephcormier5974 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely interesting thank you for sharing this six stars
@nolanfoster6782
@nolanfoster6782 4 жыл бұрын
How could I set this up so I can electroplate gold plated jewelry plating onto the cathode?
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
Electroplating solutions have a different composition and concentration. The anode/cathode setup is also different.
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof Жыл бұрын
I found calculations on a website that using displacement highway is graduated cylinder and a scale you could not only determine whether a gold was real but also its purity 10 karat versus 14 karat versus 18 carat Etc which is accurate enough to eliminate the need to buy expensive reagents for testing so yes it most certainly will be differences in density especially at that concentration
@thomasoberg227
@thomasoberg227 Жыл бұрын
While refining gold would it not be really convenient to just do the nitric boils and then just make an anode of the powder or even make a basket for the powder to use as an anode to eliminate the aqua regia boils?
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
The only problem is lead. Just traces of it ruins the ductility and malleability of gold. Doing a single refining with aqua regia and adding a little sulfuric acid to precipitate out the lead, then filtering it out will remove 100% of the lead. The anode for the electrolytic gold cell needs to be high purity to begin with.
@mnn136
@mnn136 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe an Odd Question and perhaps I've mis understand: If you have 100ml solution with 34.1 gram of desolved gold (state your calculation note) + you've desolve 25,5 gram of Pure gold (Anode) and after the experiment on the Kathode you've got 27,7 gram of Pure gold. Where is the remaining 32.1 gramm of gold?? ( Maybe I missed something)...
@mps7929
@mps7929 4 жыл бұрын
16:35 the name of the book sir ?
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Refining Precious Metal Wastes by C.M. Hoke
@fayezalhashem8771
@fayezalhashem8771 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you always do the best slot from Jordan
@roywhipple4923
@roywhipple4923 4 жыл бұрын
I understand that one of themanide or cathode basically pushes the metal over to the other side to stick to the opposite rod, my question is can you use a carbon rod to do the pushing ?? Does it HAVE to be metal?
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think the big refiners use titanium cathodes for the gold to plate out on instead of pure gold cathodes. I’ve never heard of carbon cathode, but that don’t mean it wouldn’t work. For electrolytic refining to be successful the anode must be fairly pure to begin with. Otherwise the chloroauric acid electrolyte would become fouled rather quickly and other metals could then contaminate the pure gold at the cathode.
@nawalprasadsahani.3765
@nawalprasadsahani.3765 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you shree sir very nice gold Cristalis refining video.
@stokerboiler
@stokerboiler 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the noise level in the hood is higher. That's good. More noise comes from more air flow. More air flow means less sulfur dioxide down your throat.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
I cut part of the restriction off the outlet pipe. But I've got a new motor. Just need time to install it.
@superdad-ls2id
@superdad-ls2id 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are excellent...very professional. For the amateur wothout equipment ir the chemical supplies...would it be possible.for.you to maybe make videos of other ways to safely reclaim precious metals?
@leefoster4133
@leefoster4133 3 жыл бұрын
Am not getting this process. Normally, the cathode and anode are dissimlar materials. Also I don't know why it has to be heated unless HCl requires the heat to active. I was expecting something like the silver cell. I also wonder if that yellow washoff liquid if it has palladium in it.
@seymourpro6097
@seymourpro6097 3 жыл бұрын
They are different by the impurities! The pure gold plates onto the cathode and the impurities collect in the solution or on the bottom of the beaker.
@newmexicogold2234
@newmexicogold2234 3 жыл бұрын
Hey sreetips thanks all the extra chemistry tips and knowledge......your pretty badass.......thanks.....I'll have show some of my projects including gold extraction....laters.. C you soon
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you
@johannesdesloper8434
@johannesdesloper8434 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome sreetips. Like to see new things and especially something like this. Wonder if you put up the current you can make Crystals like found in nature.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that crystals this pure exist in nature.
@johannesdesloper8434
@johannesdesloper8434 4 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Good question. Indeed I assume they where emerged in probably a little more contaminated "electrolyte" I saw people dissolving them out of quartz. Also heard that it has an afinity with Carbon. Carbon probably acts as crystalisation core.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's fascinating that gold is produced during a super nova. Only there do the pressures and temperatures exit to fuse protons into new, heavier elements.
@johannesdesloper8434
@johannesdesloper8434 4 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips neutron capture can not only produce heavier isotopes but also heavier elements. To me it's also fascinating that nature can dissolve gold and how and where it deposits.. Maybe one day I come and see for myself, Here in the river delta is only dust to find.
@bpxtn3
@bpxtn3 4 жыл бұрын
sreetips The nuclear accelerator can create gold atoms by slamming subatomic particles into the target. Again, not feasible due to energy issues. I am not sure about the stability of the atom or if the decay is as fast as it’s creation but I know that the experiment was performed successfully.
@nobodyyouknow3669
@nobodyyouknow3669 3 жыл бұрын
Would adding brightener make the crystals lustrous?
@hokkaidoutaima
@hokkaidoutaima 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video, would love to see you do it again with different voltage and current to try to produce larger crystals. Do you know why the crystals were so hard despite being so small? With copper in a similar crystal size, the thing would just crumble from my experience.
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 4 жыл бұрын
I am here after MAC asked about this. That is a lot of gold you are playing with bud.
@rogerthedodger5788
@rogerthedodger5788 4 жыл бұрын
Shame I can't buy from your eBay store being in UK, but appreciate why. Very interesting video. Thank you!
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I tried. ebays policy not mine
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Interesting. International sales didn't use to be a problem. I have bought and sold many item to/from the UK.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
eBay won’t fend for me if an overseas buyer claims there’s a problem. For example, if a buyer claims the item never arrived and I have no way to prove that the overseas carrier actually delivered it. They could end up with the item I sold and get a refund. In the USA I use usps. Delivery can be verified and the dispute settled then and there. All I do is provide tracking and verification the item was delivered to the address that they provided. eBay will back me up. That’s why I don’t risk shipping precious metals overseas.
@Cybo-Man
@Cybo-Man 4 жыл бұрын
Why don't the weights match? Shouldn't the gold crystal weigh about 223 grams?
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
No. Some remained attached to the anode wire and a small piece fell to the bottom of the beaker.
@alxcvisuals2874
@alxcvisuals2874 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I am really curious if you use a much lower current density (maybe 1/10 of what it was in this video), would the gold crystals be a lot nicer? Also I am currently doing electrorefining of platinum with K2PtCl4 and it worked, would love to see you do it in a larger scale!
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
The crystals grow faster and more outward if the voltage is increased. That’s what the silver cell crystals do when higher voltage is applied.
@hoseqt1
@hoseqt1 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried this in the same method as the Silver Cell? Would it turn out different results?
@-meganeura
@-meganeura 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you use a smaller, narrow and thin (wire) cathode would make longer crystals?
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
There really were no crystals. Getting gold crystals is very difficult and requires special processes and equipment.
@mehere6865
@mehere6865 4 жыл бұрын
well now that was a fun video but i have to ask, what happened to your anode? did it just transfer to the cathode and you still have the original solution to play with?
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
The anode dissolved completely. The electrolyte will have much gold in it. I'll get it out later.
@erwindjafar6265
@erwindjafar6265 3 жыл бұрын
stretips how many volts and amperes for palladium metal, in nitrate solution, and what metal for the anode and cathode
@RobinSoto-i9n
@RobinSoto-i9n 9 ай бұрын
I beg to consider there is no specific distance mentioned between the anode and cathode because an electrical current will still be able to connect them
@sreetips
@sreetips 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think it gave a distance in the book
@ach7177
@ach7177 2 жыл бұрын
SIR ,I noticed you did not add nitric acid with hydrochloric acid and DISTTELD WSTER ? why ?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember why. Maybe it wasn’t necessary.
@butziporsche8646
@butziporsche8646 3 жыл бұрын
Does the gold need to be annealed during the rolling process?
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Probably should to softened it up
@keithgilliam2598
@keithgilliam2598 3 жыл бұрын
what book are you using for your gold electrolyte cell for the recipe?
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Refining Precious Metal Wastes by C.M. Hoke - available all over the internet as a free download
@mikeconnery4652
@mikeconnery4652 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@سیدجلیلمیرکاظمنژادفروهی
@سیدجلیلمیرکاظمنژادفروهی Жыл бұрын
سلام خدمت استاد بزرگ استاد ولتاژ وامپر الکترولیز چقدره متشکرم
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
3.5 volts DC
@rasheedmaghrani1610
@rasheedmaghrani1610 4 жыл бұрын
Hello sir .thank you for your video .what is the name of the first solution wich contain the gold .
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Chloroauric acid solution
@rasheedmaghrani1610
@rasheedmaghrani1610 4 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips thank you sir for your answer .please i need to know . What will happen if the solution contain other metals like copper or silver not only gold .does those metals also go with the precipitated gold on the cathod or stay in the bottom of the beaker .thank you very much .
@lontaramining5581
@lontaramining5581 3 жыл бұрын
Master, can it be anode with a bag we place the gold rock that has been refined, to get gold 😊
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I think yes, but I’ve never tried it
@lontaramining5581
@lontaramining5581 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips master, I have a rock that has au, pd and Rh metals, I will use a cyanide base solution, I ask for a solution and advice from you, for the cathode what metal to use, and what metal anode, I want the three metals to be obtained in 1x process, is it possible? Thanks
@rengokuwon1999
@rengokuwon1999 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video
@therealgalaxy009
@therealgalaxy009 4 жыл бұрын
What was the name of the book you referenced?
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Refining Precious Metal Wastes by CM Hoke
@roywhipple4923
@roywhipple4923 4 жыл бұрын
When you say electrolyte do you mean sulfuric acid like is used in the battery acid, or is it a different kind?
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
For the gold cell electrolyte means chloroauric acid solution (pure gold dissolved in acids)
@richiebthebarberbowens4193
@richiebthebarberbowens4193 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always my friend
@richiebthebarberbowens4193
@richiebthebarberbowens4193 4 жыл бұрын
And thanks for answering my question
@MikkellTheImmortal
@MikkellTheImmortal 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Sreetips. Why do the instructions say to use a silver clip on the cathode?
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know for sure. But probably because silver is the best conductor of all metals.
@MikkellTheImmortal
@MikkellTheImmortal 4 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips really?! I thought gold was the best conductor. Well if this is the only thing I learn today I know I'll be better for it. Thank you
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Gold resists corrosion better than silver. That's why gold is used on electrical contacts.
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikkellTheImmortal Both silver and copper are more conductive than gold.
@BrokenTWelder
@BrokenTWelder 4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to make any more of this?
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Since it worked so well, and the gold produced was absolutely incredible, I may give this another go in a future video. It might make some cool framed art. Back when I did this about a year ago, I tried to sell it. But nobody knew what it was so it just didn’t sell. I had to melt it into bars to be able to sell it.
@BrokenTWelder
@BrokenTWelder 4 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips if you decide to make it again I'll definitely buy it from you. Had I been watching your vids a year ago I would've bought it the first time too.
@jamesw796
@jamesw796 3 жыл бұрын
What was the electrolyte? It sounded like clonal-auric acid? Thx
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Chloroauric acid (pure gold dissolved in aqua regia)
@josephpecoul6532
@josephpecoul6532 4 жыл бұрын
Love the channel Sreetips tell the Mrs's hello for me.
@jennyferfarias971
@jennyferfarias971 3 жыл бұрын
What is the book that you use on this vídeo?
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Refining Precious Metal Wastes by C.M. Hoke
@CoinSilver800
@CoinSilver800 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another informative video.
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