New York: The Don'ts of New York State

Hey there fellow travelers! Are you heading to New York? Not just the city but the whole state! There is so much to do and not do when you visit New York. Here we give you advice on food, sights, culture, and fun in the state of New York. It is more than just New York City, from Buffalo to Rochester to Albany and so many more great spots to visit!
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[@moonmaiden103]

That finger is the State bird! /s in all seriousness, welcome to NY & we hope you enjoy your time here! 😊

[@woltersworld]

You made me spit my beer out :) 😀 cheers!

[@sonyareagle5400]

So true!!! I grew up everywhere with my dad in the military. But, with mom from NY and dad from PA, we would return to western NY every year to visit family. Just this last August I finally moved to western NY to stay. Such a beautiful state!!

[@woltersworld]

Cool!

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[@ethanearthling]

As someone who has lived in all parts of New York State, you guys hit the nail on the head! Thanks for the video!

[@woltersworld]

Thanks Ethan!

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[@macconmara7252]

I have to correct you on driving in New York. I am a lifelong New Yorker and yes NYC is congested and a pain because it is NYC but upstate New York drivers are fine. The place where driving is downright dangerous is Long Island. Drivers on Long Island are horrible and you must stay alert at all times. On Long Island the drivers seem to believe that traffic laws are optional and to be ignored. Love your videos but I have driven in every state in the country and upstate New York is fine.

[@Olliemets]

Couldn't agree more. Grew up there. And it even worse now. It's Florida North

[@valeriejoseph4227]

I agree. When I travel from Upstate to Downstate I become an aggressive driver. For survival. When I return Upstate I can relax and be a polite driver. Lived both Upstate & The City & summered in L.I.. The driving protocols are very different.

[@631footytv9]

you sound like you drive too slow- long islander

[@Sniperboy5551]

I can’t agree with you more, Long Islanders absolutely suck at driving.

[@monstermaniac49]

As a Long Islander, you’re correct. We have some incredible breweries here. There’s a ton of them. We also have a whole wine region here as well. Definitely do a video on Long Island too. It’s a great place to visit.

[@Jen321able]

Yes! I can't stand when people act like NYC is the only part of NY that matters. I love this video! And so much Buffalo footage! I wish I would have run into you here lol.

[@AstarionWifey]

Blame the movies,books heck blame Hollywood

[@donaldsperrazza1074]

Agreed as a Buffalonian I loved this video keep up the great content mark

[@cjkavy2299]

CANT BELIEVE I MISSED THIS GO BILLS!!!!!

[@patrickoshea4991]

Thr Hudson Valley, Adirondacks, and Long Island could all get their own video!

[@dantheman8279]

Drove from NYC to Montreal and was blown away by the beauty!

[@evermarquez7506]

I been around the country and diffrent parts of the world. I am from NYC it def amazes me how I never traveled around NY state Glad you made this video, def need to travel in my home state

[@woltersworld]

Glad I can help get you out to upstate ;)

[@abdelkadermaatallah8765]

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[@Olliemets]

Thanks, Mark!!! I grew up on LI and have live in LoHud Valley my entire adult life. Spot on saying we are like many states mashed together. And "Upstate" is actually pretty Subdivided: Catskills, Adks, Cap District, Finger Lakes, Southern Tier, North Country, Hud Valley, Western NY...etc. Great Lakes, Champlain and hundreds of Lakes and LI Beaches give plenty of access to water. Big Mountains, Thick Forests, so much outdoor beauty. And then there's NY City which is a whole different animal. I've covered every inch of the State and so many areas just have a distinct look. Chataugua County is gorgeous yet pretty much the edge of the world to entire state other than Western NYers. And we like our Exit signs :-)

[@mikenfl84]

Buffalo! Best city in the world let's goooo

[@MrAwesomeSaucem]

You’re the best, Mark! Thank you!

[@woltersworld]

Cheers!

[@shanavrouletis1206]

Thanks for your perspective on New York--it’s fun to hear these views from an outsider. As someone who grew up in Saratoga/Albany and has made NYC my home for 20+ years, I’m a hybrid upstate/city person and I never get tired of exploring our state --even just the 5 boroughs of the city. Not too many states have a major metropolitan center, Atlantic Ocean access with beaches and boating, the Hudson River valley and all of its historic towns along train lines. Finger lakes winery region, old industrial cities, mountains, hiking (soo much hiking), the north country and borders with Canada and New England states. Definitely recommend using the Taconic State Parkway in place of 1-87 when you can and you can drive through the scenic farmland of Columbia county too. And thank you for understanding that New Yorkers are helpful, but we’ve got places to be and we’ll let you know that! And upstate is a state of mind more than anything lol (but ask someone in NYC and it begins after the last subway stop in the Bronx likely) Based on your coverage of my beloved state, I’m going to check out your other videos.

[@Glutton84]

You guys have to do a Long Island Edition. Vineyard, Flanders Ducks, Port Jefferson, Nautical Mile, Blue Point Brewery for Mark, Tanger outlets. Family activities : Splish Splash*, Adventure Land* and of course the Beaches. Asterisk represents summer activities.

[@Glutton84]

Also you can check out the cradle of aviation museum, on museum row.

[@stevensanfilippo6338]

Don’t forget the Hamptons and Montauk, Orient Point, Riverhead and Long Island Aquarium, Long Island Museum, Huntington, Cold Spring Harbor, and historic homes and estates including Vanderbilt and Theodore Roosevelt’s Sagamore Hill. Also don’t forget Belmont Park and UBS Arena for sports beside all of the things in neighboring Brooklyn and Queens. Long Island is huge and definitely long so be prepared for lots of driving and traffic getting to and from NYC first.

[@igobybign6747]

I'm from roc NY love you channel I don't even travel very much but still love watching your videos very happy with the garbage plate mention

[@woltersworld]

Thank you for watching

[@evanfelicetti6226]

Hey Mark, thanks for making this fantastic video. I feel very fortunate to be from NYS!

[@woltersworld]

Thanks Evan!

[@adrianwebster6923]

You can walk away from the pump. The gas pumps have a little wedge in the handle to hold it in place until the tank is full. you can see this wedge in the video right by the hand.

[@Chrissy4281]

Great video. My first plane ride was to Buffalo on a business trip w/my mom and I remember being so confused thinking it would be fast past. Lol. Fast forward to several years later when I would visit New York city on my own, at least six times and year and comparing the two. I used to think the people were rude and everyone always acted like they were in a rush lol. Of course I began to understand it like you explained it and couldn’t stay away from New York; actually thought of moving here I loved it so much. I just can’t stay away. We’ve taken many a trips just do shopping in Time Square and Woodbury Commons. Im due for a trip very soon. Tfs.

[@sanchoodell6789]

New York, New York. So good they named it twice! (I love it)

[@alexwhite6417]

So proud to be a New Yorker 😎

[@EPA18]

I have grown up in the New York area my whole life, and I've never known of any place where exit numbers are linked to mile markers! So what you're saying in the video is completely new to me!

[@karolkaczorowski8660]

Wow, new video on New York, ecen if its about upstate, still super cool!

[@woltersworld]

Got to cover it all :)

[@huxleyginsberg13]

I’m sad that I grew up in NJ but outside of NYC I’ve barely gotten to explore the state of New York. Live far away now but I’d like to explore it more one day, especially in the Fall!

[@ianslass]

Once again...love your tips!

[@AnnaMargolin]

Don't forget to bring some kind of mosquito repellent for when you're walking near a lake in the spring, summer or early fall. NY mosquitoes are quite aggressive and do not apologize!

[@EscapingtheEmptyNest]

We really enjoyed our time in Ticonderoga. Beautiful little Hamlet with a lot to offer.

[@woltersworld]

Thanks

[@tobiojo9454]

Great video

[@theplussizecostumer]

Lived in Upstate NY all my life. With the exit numbers, the number go west to east and south to north. When traveling on an east-west highway, exit 1 is over near Lake Erie and get larger the farther east you go. When traveling north-south, exit 1 is along the state's southern border and get larger as you travel toward Lake Ontario or Canada. As for what defines Upstate NY, my pat answer is "anything above 189th Street in the City" (NY City that is). Actually the dividing line is pretty much when you leave the Cityscape and are in more natural (as in nature), surroundings. That's the closest definition anyone can give. With the wings, they originated at the Anchor Bar. And you're right, there's nothing like them. The Garbage Plate, a Rochester (where I live) tradition, is great. It originated at a restaurant called Nick Tahou Hots (pronounced Tahoe, like the lake between Nevada and California) in a hole-in-the-wall building. Almost every restaurant in town has a variation of the Garbage Plate on their menu, usually called just a Plate. Though, depending on where you get it, it can be a little hard on your stomach. So be prepared with your antacid of choice. One former governor like the Garbage Plate so much he had it as the meal served at his inaugural dinner. As for the attitude of Upstate New Yorkers, it varies. As with anywhere, you will find jerks mixed in with the really nice people.

[@Leo.Dhas.]

Thanks mate! You're a cool guy :)

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[@woltersworld]

Thank you

[@Champagneyear]

Hey Mark! Shoutout from Sweden 🇸🇪👍🥳

[@The_British_Mapper]

This video is going to be amazing!

[@woltersworld]

Thank you

[@tobiojo9454]

Awesome video

[@ricardocharriez3439]

I enjoyed hearing your wife’s input in this video. The way she explains is a bit different from yours, which I think is a great addition. You both have a great voice to listen to. She was a good highlight of the video and I enjoyed her participation. Thank you always for your work.

[@choonblaze]

That's his sister

[@luvspaiste]

Mark- your wife is great. Put her in more videos!

[@brettany_renee_blatchley]

I grew up in Skaneateles (Scan-ee-a-tel-ess). After decades in the Carolinas I'm thinking about going back to the Finger Lakes region of NY. 💚💜💙

[@r3tr0actiongamer24]

As a resident of Manhattan for over 12 years I couldn’t agree more with tourists needing to move over when taking a picture. It’s annoying

[@yaowsers77]

o'donohue's in times square has great and friendly service! i always get the same waitress when i visit once a year and have a great time chatting with her!

[@DC-uz1my]

What about us in the Adirondacks. We are truly upstate NY and where the rest of NY comes for vacation! Lake George, Saranac Lake , Lake Placid.

[@dennisking7872]

Northern New York or Adirondack country. Very beautiful region but it takes some effort to get there from other parts of New York State.

[@timmmahhhh]

If you're from Illinois like the Wolters and me, your I-Pass works anywhere EZ-Pass does. So true about the Canadian side of Niagara falls being the better view too.

[@applicareinc]

8:54 Times Square Church, West 51st Street and Broadway. Yea!

[@DinoD10520]

i 84 and the Taconic State parkway now have mile based exit numbers. I-87, I-91, i_88, and the New York State Thruway still use sequential exit numbers.

[@nickpvb]

We drove to Niagara Falls from North Florida a few years back… By the Way, West Virginia is beautiful. We stayed on the Hilton on the Canadian side and took a fun Viator day trip. Our next stop was New York City and it’s a very long drive so we were 70% on interstates the rest on local highways. I don’t remember the road but going through Herriman was beautiful. Years ago on business I was over there and joined a group from the Appalachian Mountain Club on a day hike hard to believe the Appalachian trail is 30 minutes away from New York City!!! We’ve been all over the city but most recently Long Island and Mark is right, Long Island is a great place to visit especially all the Billy Joel connected locations. Hicksville, Oyster Bay (Where Billy Joel has a museum of his beautiful collection of motorcycles), Planting Fields, Huntington, Stony Brook, Port Jefferson and more. I did have a rental car in Connecticut on another business trip and drove north on Connecticut seven then West to the Hudson River (around West Point) and then back down south to New York City. What a beautiful drive! Unfortunately we haven’t visited the Adirondacks, Catskills, Finger Lakes, Albany, the west side of Lake Champlain, the south and southwest parts of the state. And because of our route all we saw of Rochester and Syracuse were buildings along the interstate.

[@abhishekrao1525]

NYC here. We can seem a bit curt at times, but it's mainly because it's a fast paced life and we don't deal with pleasantries. If you need help, ask for it and most people will help. They'll just go right back to what they were doing before.

[@freakishuproar1168]

That first point about "New York not just being NYC" is a salient one :D The last two/three years or so I've transformed into a bit of an amateur geography nerd, and part of that was familiarizing myself with the individual states of the USA. I was using that _The True Size Of_ website and comparing state sizes to other countries, and the state of New York is roughly comparable to Romania. You could comfortably fit Northern Ireland or Wales within the borders of the state. So it's certainly bigger than many people might realize.

[@kathyovington7801]

Spot on only thing I would change is that picture of the garbage plate , actual garbage plate looks nothing like that. Look up Nick Tahou’s garbage plates and that the original creator of them in Rochester NY and tastes amazing!

[@ESUSAMEX]

Thanks Mark for telling everyone about not blocking NYC sidewalks. Good wine on Long Island along with the beer. Wine tasting everywhere on LI. Yes, we New Yorkers use some colorful language, but it has a purpose: To get your attention when you are doing something all wrong. Now that I live in Florida, I miss the Fall weather and the speed of NY. I do not miss the taxes though.

[@DK-vn7lr]

You mentioned going to see art at the Met, but the corresponding painting you showed was a Van Gogh that is at MOMA 😉

[@NotTodaySatan557]

I’ve lived in WNY and NYC for like half of my life. It’s a great state and this video feels very on point- the NYC toilet issue, the service industry and kind city people are too real 🤣

[@fourthgirl]

I would say the stopping on the sidewalk is anywhere you go. Waiting for people - step to the side, Dealing with child- step to the side, Checking directions - STTS.

[@greenmachine5600]

Exactly

[@mikecheckpro]

Great toilet advice

[@woltersworld]

Always important

[@williammahony9347]

Great video! As a native New York State resident I would disagree with the driving part though. Driving in NYC is aggressive and Long Island is a traffic hellscape but once you get 30-45 minutes from NYC, drivers drive like anywhere else in the US. Oh, and thanks for pointing out that gas pump hold clip thing. It’s awful. We all hate it too. It’s fine in the summer, but I’m the winter when I have to stand there holding the nozzle for no reason I’m always contemplating my life choices and whether or not I could afford a condo in Florida.

[@acchaladka]

I’m from westchester county and consider upstate to begin at the border of Duchess County...maybe every New Yorker thinks upstate begins at their county’s northern border.

[@blankface_]

I think the more you see of the state, the farther up upstate becomes. To people in nyc it’s Westchester. To me it’s north of Albany

[@BMad-we6qf]

I live smack dab in the middle of the state and say Upstate is anything north of Westchester. :)

[@PwntByEKS666]

I live in Buffalo, and I have no clue what upstate even means, didn't even hear that term until recent years. Always referred to the regions of NYS as: WNY, CNY, Finger Lakes, southern tier, North country/Adirondacks, Albany area, and NYC area. Some of those regions overlap

[@anaalba4065]

I’m from New York City (Queens County). Here in the five boroughs (that’s NYC), we consider upstate to begin past the Bronx’s border starting in Westchester County. JUST KIDDING! The real answer is north of Poughkeepsie where the Metro North’s Hudson train line ends. Where you can no longer daily commute to downstate by train. Upstate NY starts with the counties of: Delaware, Greene, and Columbia. The Hudson Valley (ending with: Sullivan, Ulster, and Dutchess counties) and below are downstate.

[@nickpvb]

My favorite don’t of New York is if you’re staying at the Westin on 43rd and don’t know the price of laundry DONT ask the hotel to handle several days of laundry!!! And we thought the parking charges were expensive LOL!

[@martensjd]

Virginia used to number interstate exits sequentially, 1, 2, 3, etc., like NY. A few decades ago the state renumbered them.

[@katelynevans8100]

Yes we love Buffalo!! ❤💙

[@clowchan]

If you fiddle with some gas holders right you can get it to stick and it will pump by itself I don't drink but there are wineries in the Hudson Valley Region. I live near the company that makes Angry Orchard

[@carla919]

It would be great if tourists would not stop in the middle of the sidewalk or walk 5 abreast ant take up the whole sidewalk but it never happens

[@yugioht42]

Actually a lot of the east coast states created a combined electronic toll. It’s under a few different names but from Florida to New York it goes into your sunpass. So you can rely on that. It’s something from January of this year it went into effect. It doesn’t work through every state north and south but most of them so you can get by. In Florida it simply is your sunpass.

[@PwntByEKS666]

I've lived near Buffalo for most of my life, and I've definitely noticed whenever I'm traveling anywhere else, I have to specify that it's not near NYC. I'm general, people have no clue the Buffalo-Niagara area is more than 6 hours from NYC. Plus, the culture and food is completely different, it's much more similar to Midwestern cities than NYC. You're definitely correct on the "upstate" thing, no one can agree what that means. I would consider Buffalo-Niagara, Rochester, and Jamestown to be WNY, and Syracuse, Ithaca, Binghamton to be CNY. Not sure what "upstate" actually means Also, another don't to include - Don't explore the rest of the city of Niagara Falls, haha. It's ghetto as hell! One of the most dangerous small cities in the nation

[@MrPickledede]

Brooklyn native here youse a good fella! Don't fooghhhetabouit!

[@frankisfunny2007]

New York state is just a wonderful slice of America! Central New York state is like central Pennsylvania about 100-150 years ago beyond Rochester. Just green, rolling hills, waterfalls. Watkins Glen, NY has a National Park, a world-renoun race track (which held Formula 1 & currently NASCAR), and the town itself is nice! It's also one of the towns that's on the Finger Lakes.

[@johnathin0061892]

He should have mentioned Taughannock Falls, which is actually taller than Niagara Falls.

[@catelizabeth]

THANK YOU for highlighting that we are so much more than NYC!! But also, SHHH we don't want a lot of people moving upstate😂

[@ExclusiveLM]

Here is the key when asking us New Yorkers a question or being next to a New Yorker (specifically NYC): 1. Do NOT ask someone walking very fast and focused any question. Only ask groups talking questions, not individuals 2. When walking walk on the sides next to the buildings. You don't want to walk diagnally in the path of NYC natives. 3. Walk fast. Always have money or card ready to pay. Don't litter on the street. ALWAYS look both ways crossing.

[@PsalmS-vi8zl]

I once heard a pastor from Brooklyn tell folks that the one finger wave is really someone's way of telling you, "Hey, you're number one!" ;-)

[@mattset9335]

Upstate NY = North of Newburgh to I-90, west to I-81. Everything west of 81 is Western NY. Everything north of 1-90 is the North Country. Everybody south of Newburgh is a city slicker. Life long Catskiller fyi

[@brandonnathanalbertnathan103]

NY State is my most favourite state in U.S.A.

[@greenmachine5600]

Same

[@ecurewitz]

I cut brought Columbia County a few years back. Damn that place was beautiful. It was like Berkshire County (MA) without the tourist infrastructure or tourist traffic. Don’t get me wrong, the Berkshires are awesome, but I was impressed by Columbia County

[@stevewalsh3001]

I grew up in WNY. I don't even think of myself of being from New York. When asked, my knee jerk is to say I'm from just outside Buffalo hahaha.

[@paulcunningham2859]

Nice

[@Ladysolitude24]

I live on Long Island. I get the best of both worlds. I can have my quiet space and can drive or take public transportation to the city and be there in 30 minutes. It’s true about the driving. Long Island has the worse drivers. Even the elderly drivers are aggressive. The upstate thing is true. Some people consider anything past the Bronx upstate. Others will call anything past Yonkers upstate or southern Canada.

[@ricknichol260]

Yea I don't know where you go but I always get nice friendly service I live here and you have poughkeepsie and hyde park President Roosevelt was Couple miles down the road you had the vanderbilts Nice places to visit Cross from Roosevelt is A brewery You gotta search Millbrook in New York There's a lot of famous people that live in New York We had super troopers the 1st one film terrorist pretty cool at the Burger King lol They're always shooting movies here

[@patrickmurphy7793]

In regards to the exit numbers, they are gradually converting to mileage based exits, but it’s more of a shock to us locals when they do it, so they do one every few years. I’m still bothered by a couple highways changing exit numbers on us.

[@JeffinBville]

1:42 - The chamber on the old girl scout camp at the bottom of Fahnestock SP?

[@MichelleSlotChik]

I’m from NY and the worst drivers are in the south not NY- they suck down here in alabama and the middle finger is prevalent. - lol also here in alabama we have Indian names too like sylacauga!! 😂 and glad you got good wings and pizza in my Hometown of buffalo- Buffalo is the city of good neighbors and we have good service

[@Ned88Man]

honestly, New York City is my favorite city in the world.

[@shaunsteele8244]

we went on a school trip to NYC (from California) when I was 14. They told us not to look people in the eyes, and that when we're in line we should push our way through rather than let people go ahead of us, because then no one would let us in lol

[@jessicawenger7959]

Love beef on weck. Its my favorite upstate lunch.

[@woltersworld]

So good!!!!

[@jsilverchannel]

Question for you, how do I pay tolls if I'm from Canada? Thanks

[@Rjisawake]

NEW YORK is way more than nyc lol thank you Wolter

[@vm1776]

exits were supposed to be linked up to the mile markers, the law went through to change that 15 years ago but it's slowly changing. In Ithaca, there's a parking spot near the ticket machine, I pull into that and pay and then exit. Upstate NY is everything outside of NYC to many but to other's it's the northern 50% of the state.

[@TheGoobyman]

As someone who relocated to Ithaca from Missouri, I haven't found a lie yet 🤣

[@carlosa6327]

the Gas pump has a little stand under the handle to pump hands free. Theres a lot of those in LA. Come on Wolter

[@OrthodoxChristianTheology]

Exits are in sequential order...not complicated

[@Sniperboy5551]

Even as someone who doesn’t live in the City, any time I’ve ever visited I find myself getting annoyed at the same things. People walking around cluelessly, either on their phone or taking pictures, or even just standing in the middle of the sidewalk. Then you try to go anywhere and there’s a huge line, I personally don’t understand why people decide to move there and pay the absurdly high rent price that comes along with it… to each their own! I’d rather move to the middle of nowhere, I enjoy my peace and quiet lol

[@ricknichol260]

Let's talk about Long Island people Can't drive bad food attitudes and most of them are so stuck up and think they're better than everyone else

[@terenceetullyjr]

Another tip for a NYC deli or bodega: don’t wait until you get to the register to start reading the menu and take time to decide what you want…you WILL piss of the locals, especially if it’s lunch time. Start reading the menu as soon as you walk in and have your shit together when it’s time to order. Also, the Hudson Valley is another wine region in NY, not just around the Finger Lakes.

[@SuV33358]

Ya we got some weird names . I live in Chili, a suburb of Rochester. It's pronounced cheye-lye and not like the chili you eat....lol

[@ronaldog3525]

I'd like to see: The Don't of Hawaii. Could you climb the mountain of Oahu? lol

[@jeremyshuster9492]

Northeast is not for the faint of heart; you have to be extremely resilient around here…

[@r5LgxTbQ]

I never noticed us being aggressive drivers. Illinois and DC were both way worse imo.

[@bossillini4674]

A friend calls it “blue lining” when they travel and stay off the interstates and take 2 lane highways exclusively.

[@BMad-we6qf]

I live at the foothills of the Adirondacks and the Blue Line for us is the boundary of the ADK Park. :)

[@tobiojo9454]

The number one rule that people always need to remember about New York state is don't combine New York city with New York state.

[@jakubzeman924]

Good video, but maybe try making it more accessible to people outside the US? I'm from Europe and I still have no idea how to pay the tolls :D

[@mattset9335]

If you are from Europe don't worry about paying the tolls!

[@johnathin0061892]

They use a wireless transponder that is linked to a prepaid account ("Ez-pass"), or they take a picture of your license plate and mail you a bill (with a hefty surcharge). Or, if you have a rental car, they bill them and then they come after the renter for it. (And, it is a great backdoor way to increase government surveillance of US citizens.)

[@johnathin0061892]

@@mattset9335 They will bill your rental car company and they will charge your credit card. You can't avoid them.

[@MrTravelhitech]

He mightve forgotten to mention Thousand Islands because in NY state should def go there and could also use passport there to go to Canada. We were at Thousand Island for 2 nights and I remember going to Ottawa from Thousand Islands for few hours and then coming back to USA. Ottawa was great and Thousand islands is good esp the town of Alexandria Bay.

[@woltersworld]

Thousand islands! Yes. That is a gorgeous area.

[@MrTravelhitech]

@@woltersworld yes

[@JesseColeArts]

i lived in new york for years and always wondered why none of the gas clickers worked xD

[@dlast7112]

Is it possible to use NYC as a base and get the train around or would you recommend driving?

[@greenmachine5600]

Little bit difficult and you won't get very far upstate. But if you have time it could be fun.

[@Joshua-fi4ji]

You can get busses from NY to Boston, Philadelphia, DC, etc. I did a day trip to DC by bus from NY a few years ago and it was fine - driver was a maniac though. I think if you want to go through the country or small towns anywhere though you're ideally going to need your own car, or perhaps cycle. When I compared train Vs bus, train was a bit pricey and not much quicker.

[@631footytv9]

Long island strong!!