Wolverine 8mm and Super8 Reels Movie Digitizer REVIEW & TUTORIAL

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[@GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy]

I'm very interested in this movie digitizer as I have an entire box full of 8mm and Super 8 home movies from the 1950's to the 1980's. A lot of sentimental value. Just wondering if it has a USB port that I can plug into my computer, and if so does it come with editing software?

[@greggrimes4252]

New drinking game.... take a drink everytime she says "actually" or "slash"

[@Lancefer66]

I just got this a couple weeks ago, I did 30 reels. They were all 8mm (not super 8). Remember you can use the zoom in and out option. I zoomed out on one of the reels and found that the picture frame extended to the left (over the feed holes) which actually made the video size 16x9 instead of 4x3, however the top left and top right corners were missing because it is the tracking holes. I LOVE this unit! I have been watching for one to be available and affordable, you cannot beat the price with this unit. This is the first one I found that cost less than 1200.00.

[@AndrewProto36]

Lancefer66 does it capture the sound off of super-8 reels that had sound?

[@lizwynaco2222]

I think this also takes out the risk of leaving or sending off your film. Costco transfers film..but it leaves the building..home movies too valuable to let get lost by some mistake.

[@peterelias9133]

Super8 film was generally shot at 18 fps (frames per second), not 16. However, some Super8 film cameras did allow for varying the filming speed, such as 12 or 24 fps (but never 16 from what I remember).

[@davealthoff4914]

You beat me to it...She’s half right, though. For silent 16mm and 8mm film the standard frame rate WAS 16 FPS; for Super 8 the frame rate was increased to 18 FPS. The good news is that apparently this device simply stitched the frames and encodes the file to play back at 29.97 FPS instead of either interpolating or doing some kind of pull-down to fix the frame rate, so while your finished video is MPEG-4 encoded, it has the right number of frames. So the output is at the wrong frame rate, but it’s correctably wrong.

[@MarcusTDM]

Standard 8 was 16 frames per second which is what she was transferring, not super 8.

[@kjaxky]

Why bother this is cheap garbage being advertised by someone without the knowledge simply making a info commercial for those that are clueless. Her mission is accomplished, she got Paid, and never looked at it again. Our comments make her more money than the mfg, adco, disti paid her lmao told all her friends "yah today at work , I like, had a old people movie thingy, so gross "

[@MarcusTDM]

Kal Jak yeah actually I agree with you mate, she’s isn’t exactly a film enthusiast. However, people have used these machines in other videos with really good results.

[@Squirm114]

Why the big compression? 720 is great, but why ruin the picture after you've got it? Is it so you can get more footage on a flash memory card? That's pretty stupid.

[@johncalladine3564]

Hi, could you please expand on how to convert from 30 fps to 16 fps. Also could you suggest some free programs to burn these videos to a DVD, Thank you in advance, John

[@Aslowfade]

Hi I have just got mine and it doesn't seem to scan like yours or other videos I have watched. It should scan like a clock regularly at the same pace mine knocks off several fast frames then skips some, some it scans a few times before moving on. The end result is jumping all over the screen. I take it I've got a bad one.

[@jabax999]

Was it a bad one .. Sounds like it. Did they happily replace it for you?

[@cinewill1]

I tried building a trnsfer machine for many years, much fail. super 8 really does not need 1080HD, 720 works great. post processing thru after fx works and stablization makes difference.

[@BIackMoonCGI]

I read somewhere... It encodes at 30 fps because the microprocessor that does all the number crunching is hard wired at 30 fps, and there isn't another chip in existence that will encode at a rate you specify. It's 30 or nothing.

[@bjorker40]

Just purchased from Amazon and waiting for delivery in a few days...I have about 30 reels of reg 8mm to run. This seems like my only cheap option for needs! Btw, as the reel fills with film during the rewind, the circle gets bigger as the film builds up on the reel which makes it slow down .

[@mru02227600]

How did this work for you? thinking of buying one

[@jdool90830]

I think you have done a great job explaining the unit and the pros and cons. Helps me with the decision of which digitized unit to use.

[@lambertotter5407]

Jan Dool Hoe kan ik je bereiken?

[@danzervos7606]

I got a Wolverine. It works fine for most of the film except: If you have video with a bright sky and dark ground (typical outside video over a long distance) the scanner can't seem to make up its mind regarding light intensity such that about every 8 frames it goes dark for a few frames and then lightens up. So it essentially flashes. I could not find any method to stop this and my editing software doesn't have a fix for this. Old film curls from side to side and becomes stiff. The device doesn't flatten the film and it gets out of focus. Using a sprocket to advance the stiff and warped film constantly fails because of the curled up edges coming out of the sprocket. I have film going back to the mid 40's and from the early 50's to 1944, I have problems with degraded film. Oddly some of it works fine - B&W, sepia, and some color film especially if it is thin acetate. The images are there, but the acetate doesn't want to feed through the device. It would be nice if they would give a bigger take up reel than 200 ft.

[@brunster64]

Found some Super 8 films under the bed - now I wonder what they could be?

[@billyde88]

After finishing can you just use a 50 foot reel with the finished product and keep using the new ones as the take up reels? Assuming the reels aren’t labeled? That would save time i think 🤔

[@tomonabudget]

Hmmmmm. A few issues with this review. You focus too much on aspects of the machine that don't matter. Who cares if the device is noisy? The issue of it being slow is kind of negligible. As long as I don't have to babysit it. Once it starts, it should do its thing. What matters is: how good is the scan quality? Is it reliable? How well can the scans be plaid back / converted for use elsewhere?

[@giuseppestruzzo]

The speed, after scanning with some 8mm film scanners, is higher than the original speed. For some, after scanning for Mp4, it should be reduced to around -60%. Is that also the case for the Wolverine?

[@yourfault3121]

At least you won't run the risk of burning your film

[@gerryroberts662]

i used to do my own telecine, is the wolverine worth it ?? Can fragile films work getting converted, what about gaps with missing sprockets ??

[@mysterones]

Also, does it rely on the perforations on the film to move accurately through each frame?

[@craigw.scribner6490]

Yes

[@jamilgotcher5456]

You can upload the .mov file that it creates to Photoshop CC and I think I saw a message the other day that read "convert frames to layers" That's probably how you get the photo from the movie.

[@forgottenfilm]

A lot of the old Standard 8mm films run with 16 fps (frames per second), others with 18fps. Super 8 amateur film run usualy with 18 fps (or 24 fps). Professional Super 8 copies of cine movies run always with 24 fps (same as the original cine movie.) To slow that down to the right speed is just a qustion of a good software.

[@jackkelly6642]

whilst operating screen exhibits please recheck films place and stops no mention of this in opp.manual have e mailed wolverine several times with no responce

[@garydelpiano6620]

Can the output that is on the sd card be loaded into imovie and then slowed down and edited? Some of the reals I want to copy have blank spaces and I would like to add music. Also can you load the file onto the iMac to store it and re use the sad cards?

[@djvolkl]

thanks for help just got one is there place to buy a another reel

[@TheMarianne0064]

This is an awesome post and review 😊 Thank you! Question though .. What is the resolution or clarity when watching the videos on a larger screen like 55" TV or larger (like a presentation type showing)

[@jakebradbury6136]

Marianne Carney 🤠

[@jpungello]

What editing software can I use to slow the film down? what have you used that works? Great video by the way.

[@debranchelowtone]

the 30fps should be corrected with computer, this is not the right speed. Silent amateur camras ran at 16 fps, most of the time, this incluse 8mm format. Some 8mm do run at 18fps. Super 8 runs mostly at 18fps, but you can fin it sometimes at 24 fps. So most of the time you should chose 18 fps. Also some special cameras used "half speed" modes in order to save film at the expense of fluidity, you can find 9 fps or 12 fps. There also exists cameras who used a higher framerate in order to be compatible with PAL or SÉCAM television, wich include 25 fps ( each frame repeated twice ) and 16.66 fps ( each frame repeated three times ). Above this it is possible to find cameras who shots at 36 fps or 54 fps, those framerates are used for slow down special effects, and the aim was to project those films at 18 fps or 24 fps. Well to sum up, try to rely on the camera or it's manual, and if you don't find it, the general rule is 16 fps for 8mm and 18 fps for super 8.

[@soccerkittens5998]

I might buy this. But if you actually have a 8mm projector you can simply project it on a white surface and video it with a digital video camera or even your phone on a tripod. It will even pick up the sound if you have it. That's what I have been doing.

[@Bassquake76]

Unfortunately it looks terrible! Frame by frame capture is the best way.

[@redsanders8754]

Doing so is the least expensive way, assuming your projector bulb lasts - replacing these old bulbs is expensive! However, you'll end up with an irritating flicker in your captured video. If you have a bunch of 8mm and/or Super 8 film, using the Wolverine is an middle of the road solution. Or, as the reviewer and others here have said, you can send your film off to a lab. But, you better do your research because some labs produce videos that are no better than what you get from the Wolverine, and possibly worse! Some labs will produce as good a video as possible, depending on the quality of the images in the film you send them. If you are not ready to research the different means labs use to capture film, then buyer beware. Even if asked, hopefully prospective labs will truthfully tell you what method they use. Lots of dishonesty out there because of peoples' ignorance.

[@Ethan-ck6iz]

Might get this but here in Canada it is $550. Gonna try projecting onto a screen and capturing with a camera and see if we can get away with it (we still have a projector working)

[@cunay11]

What about 8mm with audio, daoes it convert audio too? Or does it record without audio?

[@MatthewsLife]

I think this is great 👍 I would love to get one and then. Edit down to 16 my uncle did my dads side of the family and it was expensive my moms side had so much more that I just want to do it myself with Final Cut Pro thank you for sharing

[@bovver6092]

I'm totally watching this video drink AF! :P

[@TRICK-OR-TREAT236]

THAT WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE ............ DRINK AF vs DRUNK AF.

[@oldgasjocky]

your cute and I still love you even though you started with the film backwards! I enjoyed your informative video, now its my turn to do this...

[@rivergirl76]

We've been using this machine for a few weeks. I was wondering what software you are talking about that slows the speed down. You said Premier? Where do I find that? Is it expensive?

[@TheMarianne0064]

Premier is the company where she works ... I used Windows Movie Maker - it was a free download :)

[@CaptainSmegHead]

I think she means she uses Adobe Premiere Pro. Which is a movie editing software that is by no means cheap. It's an expensive movie editing software that most people don't need. If you want something still professional but better than the freebies, such as Movie Maker, go with something like Magix Movie Edit pro. You can get that for under $100 bucks and it has capabilities to edit and slow the 30FPS frames down to make it look normal and is very easy to learn.

[@rivergirl76]

It doesn't appear to me that Magix Movie Edit pro is compatible with Mac. I use iMovie now. I appreciate your help. Thanks.

[@TheMarianne0064]

I had to re-watch her video and I think you're right ... I used Movie Maker (FREE) and had no issues editing

[@CaptainSmegHead]

Yeah, sorry, Magix Movie Edit pro is not on Mac.

[@TheCrismarc]

Hola estos comentarios se pueden traducir? me interesa algo así pero tengo entendido que capturan la imagen pero no el audio y quiero saber si es cierto.gracias

[@williamheckman4597]

You should review the KODAK SCANZA Digital Film & Slide Scanner next.

[@BobDiaz123]

There is a Pro model that is about $100 to $150 more. It allows for the larger reels, is 1080p at 20FPS, and inside has a drive gear rather than a rubber belt.

[@VictorVyeNYC]

Do you know what the model is or have a link to the Pro model? Thanks

[@redsanders8754]

@@VictorVyeNYC see www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0785H3FGN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03__o00_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@TRICK-OR-TREAT236]

@@VictorVyeNYC CAREFUL HERE VICTOR. THE ONLY WAY TO GET ACTUAL 1080P IS TO FILM IT WITH AN ACTUAL VERY EXPENSIVE 1080P CAMERA. THAT UPGRADE TO 1080P IS 100 % BULLSHIT.

[@queefreak666]

@@TRICK-OR-TREAT236 1080p is hardly expensive anymore. Most phones can shoot 4k now

[@whitefalcon74]

I HAVE THIS UNIT I DO FRIENDS FILmS FOR $10.00 per 50ft roll and $ 35.00 for 200 FT ROLL i use a second projector for rewinding. alo charge $ 10.0 to burn an hour of film to dvd.

[@MrStringChe]

Windows movie maker is not working for me since I saved all my movies to MP4 format. Evidently this format is not compatible with Windows Movie maker. Can anyone suggest a solution? Can I convert these files to another format?

[@TRICK-OR-TREAT236]

WHAT IS PREMIERE AND WHERE CAN I GET IT AT ?

[@Robert08010]

So you have put the film in the wrong way. Do you know how to edit your videos?

[@alexanderryan9456]

I have an issue, no matter what programme i use to put the film to 15fps. nothing works. it still moves to fast, i've tried skysoft, adobe, amonst other programmes and nothing seems to slow the film down.

[@haileytriesit3119]

May I ask what you are doing in the software? I have no problems slowing my film down in adobe premiere

[@drdimento]

You have to change the speed then. 30 fps / 16 fps = 1.875 times faster than it was filmed. Thus, simply slow the speed down to 16 fps / 30 fps = 0.533 x slower or 0.5x slow mo and it will do the same thing. No?

[@giuliom86]

You put the film in the wrong way to put it back on the yellow reel... probably the film is now damaged because of the contact with the scanning part. Great.

[@createmydvd]

30 fps is the video frame rate not the shutter speed, 16 or 18 is the shutter speed that 8mm & Super 8 run at. From the spec, it looks like this unit will play your film at 20fps after conversion. If you have less than 30 small reels, we can convert it professionally at much higher quality for about the same price or less. createmydvd.com

[@maryannkerr-barnes4804]

I have most of my 8mm in super 8 with sound, does ths machine also play sound, this would be very useful to myself and some of my friends who filmed in s8 sound but you did"nt mrntion this in your video, thank you. please email me on this supject as we have a lot OF SOUND FILM , Thanks and have a good day.

[@ShouldYouBuyIt]

This does not record sound unfortunately.

[@geofsharp658]

She actually does say in the vid. That it DOES NOT RECORD SOUND! If you didn’t hear her say (shout) that, you must be deaf, so why would you need sound? 😀

[@EverybodyLovesAlf]

It only costs $7 for a 3 inch reel at costco. You are getting ripped if you pay $40. 13 cents a foot is the cheapest i have found. Good review though.

[@CharlesMTF]

Does Costco do the FPS correction?

[@artsvdo]

Just my opinion: Looking for the "cheapest" should not be the only factor when transferring what undoubtedly is precious family memories. Costco and the like just put your reels into a box and sends them away to be transferred. But of course if this is the ONLY way a family can afford to have their precious family memories transferred, then it will do an ok job.

[@redsanders8754]

Read my reply above. Many reviewers have said that the costco products are mediocre.

[@oldgasjocky]

thumbs up + I subscribed thank you for your time :)

[@sidstevens9035]

16 frames per second ? Super 8 silent was 18 fps and 24 fps with sound. Big, big fail !

[@cnyphotovideo]

I wondered when and if you were going to realize that you put the film on the wrong way. I’ll give you credit for catching yourself.

[@artsvdo]

This is a just slightly above the category of a toy. Film transfer should be performed by a professional. Look for a local transfer specialist. Looking for the "cheapest" should not be the only factor when transferring what undoubtedly is precious family memories. Costco and the like just put your reels into a box and sends them away to be transferred. Of course if this is the ONLY way a family can afford to have their precious family memories transferred, then it will do an ok job.

[@jjjsss3869]

GIRL - LOSE THAT CRAZY HEAVY MAKEUP.

[@יצחק-ק5ע]

thank you very much thumb up

[@morest11]

Can I take pictures instead of the film?

[@CaptainSmegHead]

Take pictures with what? What do you mean? This device has a micro camera that fits the frame and takes a picture of each frame and then puts it together in a movie format. It also locks the frame into position so there is no movement between each frame.

[@redsanders8754]

No, you'll need a flatbed scanner to capture pictures.

[@traj00]

Super 8 has the larger spindle hole on the reel, regular 8 is smaller. Also, make sure the sprocket holes on the film are closest to the machine so you don't end up loading it backwards like this video shows.

[@ElroyMunson]

she did load it backwards. 8mm reels and super 8mm reels are NOT always on spools with larger spindle holes.

[@lakeprairieag]

WARNING !!! every reel my grandmother filmed were to large for this !!! they make a model that takes 9" reels

[@redsanders8754]

Joe Brown - the pro model accepts 9" reels

[@LesMorrisracing]

Thanks for the video, Perfect!

[@gerryroberts662]

Hi :P

[@vinny2058]

Loop

[@8mmfilmarchive34]

Having bought one myself, I can honestly say, these things are junk. Not worth $20, let alone $300.

[@fiyaniya614]

How so?

[@williamheckman4597]

18fps - not 16fps.

[@whitefalcon74]

Correct and 24fps for sound also there is a work around to add sync sound if you know sofware editing.

[@jp_ministries8354]

You rewound it wrong lol

[@SeriouslyDead1]

BoneHead rewound the film back on to the reel BACKWARDS. But she is an "Expert"

[@brenan6]

Why are you yelling

[@grecco3631]

Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bal.

[@kjaxky]

You're wrong 1080p or 4k ie easily done from film. You're demonstrating a inferior product. The equivocation of film to video resolution is nonsense, that's why there are allot ot movies shot on film from the 1930s-70s that are BD 1080P qnd 4k Full res. FILM is light captured NOT pixels or lines. If the lenses, film, lighting were of high quality you can have any video format you like with quality equipment. Obviously not for these $300 for that you get junk like this. Point is you should have said this machine is limited because you get what you pay for, and if you want quality results find proper film lab and ask for 30 second samples before paying . Less hassle and whatever resolution you want. 8mm and 16mm can easily goto any existing video standard nativley (without phoney upscaling)

[@TRICK-OR-TREAT236]

DEAD WRONG DUDE. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET TRUE 1080P IS HAVING THE VIDEO SHOT WITH A 1080P CAMERA. ALL THAT UPGRADING A VIDEO SHIT IS JUST THAT.

[@Toast0808]

Digitizes it into something you can actually watch? Ever heard of something called a PROJECTOR? I own two of them.

[@redsanders8754]

Yep, and they are old as the hills, prone to breaking or bulbs burning out - then get ready to spend money and time trying to get them running again.