Woman nearly escapes controlling fiancée before she's thrown from balcony - Crimes and Consequences

[@edyann]

I've been there.. Thank goodness I was able to leave but I know first hand how that feels. But till this day I'm still afraid of him Ladies.. AND MEN also- be careful because there are a lot of people out there not well upstairs. Take care. ❤

[@undertakerfanz628]

Hey boo I remember you I wish I was there to protect you

[@edyann]

@@undertakerfanz628 Oh, wow. Thank you!

[@undertakerfanz628]

@@edyann I see you still have your gorgeous looks 😍

[@edyann]

@@undertakerfanz628 I know I haven't posted in a while but I've been so busy with my work.. Thank you for such sweet comments!

[@undertakerfanz628]

@@edyann you're welcome my gorgeous Queen

[@nutterbutter5255]

I’m unsubscribing..I can’t anymore with these 2. I’m not the only one cringed by these ladies and they just keep making videos.

[@Flamsterette]

Yup. Totally unsubscribed.

[@reitermommy]

You do realize you can just not watch these particular videos, right? You don't have to fully unsubscribe? Or is that your childish way of making a threat that you're taking your ball and going home thinking since you don't like something none of us should. I'm so over all of this. It's okay if you don't like something to just move past it and not say something nasty about them.

[@Flamsterette]

@@reitermommy People are allowed to unsubscribe if they don't like the content. These people doing the video should really not have a platform.

[@reitermommy]

@@Flamsterette have at it. Clutch your pearls and unsubscribe sister.

[@Flamsterette]

@@reitermommy Okay, trash.

[@jodymcgrady8654]

This is insane. I made a comment about how slow y'all are, and you deleted my comment. 🤣 Whaat? You also deleted another person's comment.

[@monamedley6666]

🤣 🤣 are you surprised?

[@themischief420]

honestly im not surprised considering a few weeks ago they started a video complaining about comments, like children

[@davidanthony7495]

Ladies who are you promoting here…. The killer or the Victim

[@Flamsterette]

Themselves, no doubt. They should never do a video again.

[@stephaniealks1687]

This did not need to take 54 minutes. This was such inappropriate story telling lacking empathy. Too much inserted talk about yourselves also. I’ll actively avoid these stories from now

[@Flamsterette]

Yup, they should never do a video again. If I see another video from these people, I'll remind everyone that they should not be doing videos.

[@reitermommy]

@@Flamsterette clearly if you don't like it that's fact and no one should. Thank you for your declaration

[@Flamsterette]

@@reitermommy Of course nobody should support these people.

[@reitermommy]

@@Flamsterette and now I’ve got you figured out. You are looking for attention. I was correct earlier when I referred to your motives as a childish tantrum. You have a good day honey. I think you need a nap.

[@Flamsterette]

@@reitermommy That's YOU looking for attention on every comment. I sense a lot of projection coming from you.

[@lesleyhughes3174]

This channel got to over 5 million for obvious reasons. No foul language, but most importantly, Ana. Class.

[@lisastrohl2668]

right?! 🙌

[@Flamsterette]

Exactly. These people doing the video are not classy.

[@robinlongsoldier9971]

I enjoyed the story until the women started cussing and ruined the whole thing. No more of them. Bye.

[@reitermommy]

See ya

[@Flamsterette]

Cussing is one thing, but mispronouncing simple words and being giggly girls?

[@crystalcarpenter4004]

Crime watch daily unsubscribed. Get rid of the trashy story tellers. It's not a good look.

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

The channel and the other podcasters are amazingly talented and very intelligent in comparison! If you unsub, you’ll miss out on the quality uploads, there are so many top notch reporters Chris, Anna and all of the special professional guest speakers! These ladies might improve if they take in some of the more positive feedback and constructive criticisms! 😊✌️💕

[@Flamsterette]

​@@kathrynbillinghurst188Why be positive towards trashy people? Validation is NOT needed here.

[@Flamsterette]

You are absolutely correct. These people are trash.

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

@@Flamsterette I unsubbed weeks ago, but missed all of the other programmes on this channel…the professional and rational reporters are brilliant and I l👀k forward to them! I still feel that these women are not suited for this giggling gossipy style whilst speaking about such sensitive topics! Perhaps on a cooking show, they’d be hilarious, but THIS here is a travesty and I agree ☝️ with the outrage! I wouldn’t say ‘validate’!!! 🫤 Redirection…if I could I would give them a ‘time out’! It’s the boss’ fault!

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

@@Flamsterette 😑 I know…I’m big fluffy softy and always try to forgive people, always trying to see if my compassion could affect one ☝️ person who needs it! I’m learning though…and feedback is always welcome, it gives me a sense of growth AND unity, however, THIS COOKIE is hard to chew! Does that make any sense to you? Remember, I’m a ‘glass half full’ kind of peep!! 🙂✌️💐💜

[@dineosheilathenga4688]

I love how you narrate everything. well done! those who say this 2 are disrespectful obviously do not understand their use of sarcasm

[@themischief420]

i can't be the only person who notices that every video TCD post after one of.... these two, the following video without these girls also gets REALLY low views. it's usually like, ; - video of these girls, poor performance - regular TCD video, poor performance - another TCD, views are normal. they're so bad that they're tanking views of videos they aren't even in. that pattern is also pretty consistent from their first few videos on this channel. they're not good, extremely rude and laughing at domestic violence and victims. this is not what people want from TCD

[@reitermommy]

Oh my God. Let it go. Don't watch it. There are several hundred likes, which means there are a lot of us that do like them. Stop yucking on other people's yum and just move on. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean everyone doesn't have to like it.

[@themischief420]

@@reitermommy my dude, go look at the views yourself. they literally tank whatever video follows these two.

[@themischief420]

@@reitermommy also, people DON'T like it, and think TCD is letting people down

[@reitermommy]

@@themischief420 look at the likes. They literally have more likes than Sidebar. But people don’t post nasty comments on his show. Apparently if it’s not their cup of tea on his show they just move on. That’s all I’m saying. There are a lot of us that really do like this show so don’t ruin it for us. Just move on. If you liked something that I didn’t I wouldn’t ruin it for you. I would just take a pass for me. I just don’t get the ego to say I don’t like this so you all need to take this off even though their are literally hundreds and hundreds that love it.

[@reitermommy]

@@themischief420 ​​⁠just don’t watch it. It’s not all about the ones that don’t like it. There is a huge group of us that love it. And don’t appreciate those of you throwing tantrums thinking your opinion is the only one that matters

[@elizabethjacob2314]

Nooooooo every time I go to watch a video on true crime daily and find out that these two girls are the ones leading it, I don’t watch it. Crimes Consequences is killing the good brand of True Crime Daily.

[@SunniDae333]

lmao same

[@swals05able]

The way you two tell these stories is super cringey, seriously disrespectful and I honestly feel like if you are super confused by words such as monastery and concierge then maybe you don’t have any business discussing anything. The victims mother , well, hopefully she doesn’t watch this and honestly no wonder your daughter is embarrassed by you.

[@stephaniealks1687]

100%. Watching this was so weird

[@Flamsterette]

Exactly! They're absolutely ridiculous and should not be doing videos of any kind...

[@lisastrohl2668]

WTF is WRONG with YOU and those who agreed w/ you?! geez! 🤦‍♀️

[@lisastrohl2668]

Haters gonna HATE!

[@gwen08g]

@@stephaniealks1687 True Crime Daily really needs to read the comments on these two. Nobody likes them. I can’t believe they keep letting them on here!

[@Jaya-zn7vr]

60 Minutes Australia did an in depth story about this murderer! About darling Lisa's demise AND about his girlfriend Rachel. Who is sticking by his side, telling everyone and anyone who'll listen, that he can't be guilty! I think she is lucky he's in prison for her own safety!

[@gwen08g]

TCD! Read the comments! These two are VERY unpopular and they are SO cringy. Please, they are not good at this!

[@Glammums]

Hyde Park is in Sydney City CBD no such suburb as “Hyde” - Hyde Park yes but it’s Hyde Park Sydney City. That’s it. Details are always important.

[@leigh_carmichael]

Not to these two. Zero research.

[@keannacierra]

I wish Ana Garcia was telling this story.

[@Strafuzz]

‘Hyde’ is not a place in Sydney, his apartment was in St James.

[@lindseyjohnson3577]

Love how you both say you don’t want hate, at least this time you gave a warning of DV, last episode you made jokes about it! Go back to listen to yourselves. Still disgusting and I still won’t unsubscribe from TCD but I really wish you two wouldn’t come up.

[@amandas.2085]

Come at me for leaving a negative comment, but this is really hard to listen to. If you cant write a story down and read it, you really shouldnt have a podcast - especially about murder victims. The way this story is being told is so disrespectful to the families/victim, because its not being told in a coherent way. I couldnt even listen past the fiest 10 minutes because its just so awful.

[@leigh_carmichael]

Reading is a lost art it seems.

[@monamedley6666]

Someone's high.

[@490quiksilver]

TCD please find another Podcast. These two are so difficult to follow.

[@JuliaMerulla]

The pace is painfully slow. I'm trying to entertain myself, not fall asleep.

[@crystaljordan1632]

​@@JuliaMerullathe blonde acts like she done took something! as much as I would like to finish this, I CAN NOT! I'll find it on another channel ...

[@490quiksilver]

I had to speed the video up 😂

[@crystaljordan1632]

@@490quiksilver I couldn’t finish! I’ll find the story on another outlet! I promise the blonde seemed intoxicated off of something …

[@Flamsterette]

Do you people know how to say simple words? This is what happens when we validate everyone and make them think they can do anything. You should never do another video.

[@BeckhaDoyle]

So you know that conditions like dyslexia exist, right? And that people speak other languages in addition to and prior to English? You don't come off as well here as you seem to think you do. If people were mispronouncing something here and there, that shouldn't prevent them from doing things. We would miss out on an awful lot of talented people doing their thing if more people thought like you do. So narrow.

[@themischief420]

@@BeckhaDoyle they were literally making jokes about domestic violence dude...

[@Flamsterette]

@@BeckhaDoyle So, you know that those excuses are irrelevant and don't apply to everyone ALL THE TIME, right? They were also making awful jokes. Why validate the trash?

[@BeckhaDoyle]

@@Flamsterette you didn't choose to target them supposedly making jokes, you referred to your perception that they can't pronounce "simple words" - if you have a legitimate concern then by all means voice that. You didn't, you just decided to hop on their ability to "say simple words" - it's childish. I'd love to see you do a podcast and how you would react to the way people comment on and correct you.

[@BeckhaDoyle]

@@themischief420 that was not my perception of what they said, you're entitled to yours.

[@Glammums]

This is hard to follow your time line is all over the place & the constant interruptions for your opinions does no justice to the momentum of the story.

[@JuJuBean345]

These two again 🙄😒

[@hawple]

Why are u guys so fixated on the camera…? Be in a conversation, tell the story, engage… you two sound like u should be talking about hair and Tupperware. These stories need more grace and compassion

[@resumesetc]

I don't enjoy these two presenters

[@teachinglearningcentremelb6265]

Again with that privilege where these presenters don't feel any need to do the most basic research in order to pronounce names correctly or know what the names refer to. Hyde. Burqa. Parramatta. Same as the first episode. So disappointing to have this content on TCD.

[@samsungaccount22]

please ladies leave us alone,this is not for you,find something else to do!!!!

[@Flamsterette]

They have trouble with very simple words and should never do a video again.

[@_ubgj]

​@@Flamsterette😂😂😂❤

[@ldavanzo44]

I was hit once by a boyfriend..I broke his cheek bone after I pitched a Chinese tea cup at him. Then I dumped him😊 Noone hits me or puts me down noone.

[@Flamsterette]

*NO ONE

[@mr.sonnytruth8021]

Her 🛍️ bags were packed she'd booked airplane✈️ tickets 🎟️ Ohh she was definitely leaving... and paper in her pocket she probably wrote that in a hurry to let police know that there were cameras everywhere same as she did when she told her mom "if anything happens to me talk to Michelle... Such a sad story teach your daughters that abuse is not okay at any point in time and to get away from them immediately...

[@moondance4126]

Wish we could have seen some of the video footage

[@susanmatheny]

I've been in 3 relationships of domestic violence

[@AsonaoBee]

Sorry to heart that. I hope you are in a healthy space now ❤

[@Flamsterette]

Hopefully, you learned a lesson!

[@Scraggledust]

Devastating. This needs to be widely shared to show some of the ways, a person can be coerced and abused. Stay vigilant out there❤️‍🔥

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

She loved him so much at first and he repeatedly hurt her in many ways! If only she had the confidence to leave him at the first and second RED 🚩FLAGS!! She was too frightened to be herself and when she finally had a plan…he would NOT “let” her leave! As if she was a RARE caged bird…to him, she WAS his belonging! 🥺

[@gwen08g]

They need to stop letting these two telling horrible stories. They are awful!

[@Flamsterette]

Yes, these people on the video are devastating. They don't give proper respect.

[@louwandmaker]

Telstra is phones in Australia

[@cathiestewart9323]

You can't polish a turd , but you can roll it in glitter 😂

[@Flamsterette]

Like these people doing the video?

[@JupiterJamie]

@DARKLIVITY did a wonderful job of telling her story.

[@MM-gq7lp]

Thanks! I’m gonna go watch that instead because this video is horse shit ❤

[@deniseoates7147]

Theirs was too long for me (over 2 hours, I had to stop watching), they kept embellishing and repeating the same thing over and over (but I was glad I found out this case from them).

[@Platypus-Dreams]

Never deal with Australian guys named Simon, everybody knows that. Also Telstra is the phone company

[@captainkawaii2440]

12:59 as an Australian who lives in western Sydney the way you said Parramatta was so cute. It’s the local Aboriginal language word for eel (lil fun fact) 12:

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

This cowardly “man” is the essence of a narcissistic monster! I wish you ladies had a touch more class and respect 🫡 when you share these important tragedies! ✨💕✨🌸✨💕✨ Rest In Eternal Peace beautiful lady Lisa ✨💕✨

[@ND-or5so]

@kathrynbillinghurst188: What? Class? Really? That was surely a "back handed comment." Coming out with what seems like a compliment and then insulting them. That's not classy at all. Good luck with that.😉

[@shaz8486]

@@ND-or5soI think she must have been listening to a different video to us CLEARLY….to give a response like that. OR clearly deaf !

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

@@ND-or5so Hello 👋🏽 there…it’s my most respectful way to show my constructive criticism! I’m not sure how else to get ‘that’ point across, I sure don’t want to be as rude as some of the offensive comments people leave here! Expressing disappointment is difficult for me, especially when I’m triggered by witnessing disrespectful behaviour. I’m a mother and if these ladies care about the victims and their families (who might be watching) then the profanity and laughter would be, and is not only offensive, but profoundly heartbreaking 💔 With that said, they seem to slightly improved! Their very first one was very hard to watch! I wish nothing but the BEST for all living things! Even you 🫵🏻…no disrespect intended! P.s…if you have time, just flick through the comments and see how mean some people can be! Have a joyful and peaceful day. ✨🌼✨

[@Flamsterette]

​@@ND-or5soIt is true. Why are you a snowflake? ❄️🙄

[@Flamsterette]

Exactly! They also have trouble with simple words and should never do a video again.

[@maitajasko6001]

You two are so boring,and the way you talk about the story of Lisa,you two are just laughing and very disrespecful to Lisa part.🙏

[@malikb8913]

LOVE this podcast ✨ keep it up ladies

[@Flamsterette]

No, they shouldn't. They have trouble with very simple words. Do not validate them.

[@reitermommy]

@@Flamsterette don't listen if you don't like them. Don't tell someone else what they should or should not enjoy. If you don't enjoy it that's okay. I'm not judging you for that. But I am judging you for being a bossy person who gives unsolicited orders. Stop thinking just because you don't like someone the world should fall in line. It's annoying and childish.

[@Flamsterette]

@@reitermommy Hypocrite much? Don't tell someone what to enjoy?

[@reitermommy]

@@Flamsterette. ​​⁠ ​​⁠finally. I’ve been waiting for your aha moment. It’s not nice or fun is it? That’s exactly what I was trying to convey. Took you a minute. It would have been much more kind had I just passed by your comment and said oh I don’t like that but not spew my opinion wouldn’t it have? After all you are allowed to have your likes just like we are. So why be a jerk and be nasty, right?

[@Flamsterette]

@@reitermommy No, the people who like these trash video specimens are also trash.

[@crystaljordan1632]

This has got to be the worst story-telling duo I've ever witnessed! Both of you should try something else, not sure if drugs are involved but the blonde sounds like she done took something!😂

[@aubreejunesmom]

Did she REALLY describe the victim that was thrown from a balcony as being "drop dead gorgeous "!!!!!????? 😳😳😡😡

[@dragonfly1955]

Get to the point

[@Hubjeep]

So sad to hear. 1:34 Beautiful!

[@deniseoates7147]

She sold herself by dealing with this guy and the price was too high and when she realized it was too late. There was another podcast that brought this case to my attention, but I need someone to tell it without an over 2 hour embellishments. I like case facts, date and time, actual witness and only video and pictures of the actual people. So I google to get what happen in this case in a straightforward method. I am shocked that he would even be allowed to get out of jail and I sure the shoe company that he was working for in America probably did not want their name mention, but I would like to make sure that by purchasing from them we are not supporting the family or him to live high on the hog once he gets out. Now Lisa's mom only has her son to bring her cheer and grandchildren. I wonder could Lisa family file a civil suit for their damages. Thanks for your coverage of this case. As women we are vulnerable and sometimes it because of decision we make, if it does not kill us we hope it makes us stronger and wiser. RIP Lisa!

[@undertakerfanz628]

God bless her she was so gorgeous

[@marciafoggie304]

So sad 😞!

[@Flamsterette]

Yes, they should never do a video again.

[@jaxl1931]

Im only 10 minutes in, and I'm finding another video about this case. What the actual F*** Lol, the blonde takes way too long to get through a sentence. 💀

[@marleenmcguire4280]

I been through the very same thing. 😢

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

I hope you’re doing better now and surround by supportive people! Well done for surviving…💕✨🌼

[@moondance4126]

Been there also and took a long time to get out

[@elisew1783]

Played at 1.25 speed because she was speaking so slow. Sounded much better

[@shaniecedawn2139]

I absolutely love these two I been a fan since day 1. Proud of ur success and partnership with true crime daily!!

[@Flamsterette]

Ew, they should never do a video again.

[@kelsiecoats5928]

It sounds like you aren't prepared AT ALL. You're literally just reading something and paraphrasing... Do better

[@c.h.9566]

I have this on 2x speed and the storytelling is still ridiculously slow, clunky, and almost unlistenable 🤦‍♀️ I know you can do better. It didn’t do the victim justice ☹️

[@itsagthangbylynn3518]

New subscriber ♥️

[@shelleybrinton6496]

I absolutely adore both of you and love how you present these shows. I love the natural, chatty way you do them - swearing included! 😂 Makes you come across to me as being more real and incredibly relatable. Looking forward to all the shows you are both yet to present to us. 🥰

[@Flamsterette]

Why do you adore vapid empty girls who don't know how to pronounce simple words and who make awful jokes about domestic violence?

[@debcromlish3630]

Hello there ladies! I'm new to the fan pool, but love the podcast/videos. Thank you for your hard work. Poor Lisa... life can be so cruel sometimes. 😢 I listen knowing it's not going to end well, but these stories need to be told. The pressure to be perfect is so prominent and take over, but glad she overcame her issues. Terrible how it ends for Lisa. Great job though, delivering her story!

[@Flamsterette]

No, they have trouble with very simple words and should never do a video again.

[@debcromlish3630]

@@Flamsterette "Please do NOT show hate to anybody, anywhere, especially in the comments section down below"-Christina Randall!

[@Flamsterette]

@@debcromlish3630 WRONG! NOTHING HERE IS HATE. I don't even know who the fuck that is.

[@Victory459]

Yall are horrible PLEASE STOP!

[@moniquemargie1]

I don't understand some comments here, if you don't like there story telling, you don't have to watch. There is plenty of true crime channels you can pick and choose. I think they are natural and they do a good job. I do not think is easy to describe such a horrific crime.

[@perezidentable]

Ive been listening to you guys for a long time now. Never knew you guys were so beautiful wow

[@farahfhh5457]

Very ambitious both of u... but disrecpectful & seriously boringgggggggg.... but still very ambitious 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@carlyklenke6909]

Girls please always have your video and audio lol I love seeing you two and listening to you two ❤️

[@Flamsterette]

They should never do a video again.

[@cheyennayates4131]

I love y'all so much!!!

[@Flamsterette]

They should never do a video again.

[@lindyoliver7750]

I've only watched your podcast once before. Or should I say tried to but rather did a Karen move Wrote a dismissive message about your style of presenting & never finished watching. Me who knows nothing about presenting either. Sorry for that. Today I watched & realised even though your style is quite unique, why the heck shouldn't it be. Fully watched & enjoyed today's episode. I will try watch again.

[@Flamsterette]

Why would you validate people who don't know simple words and are attention whores?

[@kvitale7734]

She looks unhealthy in the thumbnail. Maybe there was a lot going on there...

[@velmabarclay6889]

I really enjoy your stories. I wasn’t sure when KZbin first started out but now you both grow on me and I look forward to every week hearing your voice is thank you.

[@Flamsterette]

Ewwww, they have trouble with very simple words and should never do a video again.

[@Flamsterette]

​@@kathrynbillinghurst188Why even give them a chance?

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

@@Flamsterette 💕 Thank you…I’ve deleted! Bless your sweet heart 💜 and have a wonderful day! 😁🌼

[@Flamsterette]

@@kathrynbillinghurst188 Same to you!

[@Rollacoastertycoon]

Women love this

[@jhonkallum1177]

Boring