WoMeN bAd At ChEsS || Ju Wenjun vs Alireza Firouzja || Tata Steel (2024)

[@bhamdeezy]

Dude.. the postgame interview was released like 20 minutes ago and Agad already has this up. God bless, my friend. You are an EXCELLENT content creator!

[@icespiceate]

Hmmm

[@colegieseking5136]

14:56 the most impressive thing about this game is that Ju Wenjun foresaw this position and evaluated it as a win for white. Rook and pawn endgames where one side is up one pawn is more often than not a draw. Even more surprising is that white doesn’t have a pass pawn and white’s king is less active than black’s and it is actually cut off from moving up the board by black’s rook.

[@qazzaqstan]

Even more so that she needed to see this 12 moves back and induce g6 because it isn't winning if Firouzja has a reserve tempo to force her king back to f2 and can now reach a pawn ending where the king is 1 tempo too slow so he holds a draw.

[@ndnd7614]

Alireza’s endgame has always been his weakness

[@Mantose262]

@@ndnd7614 She saw a winning position because of a 1 tempo difference about 15 moves in advance if she induced a pawn move and your response is Alireza's endgame is his weakness?

[@ndnd7614]

@@Mantose262 is my statement not true? Magnus agrees as well.

[@Mantose262]

@@ndnd7614 I don't really care if it is true or not. It is just a dumb thing to say considering the situation. The only point of saying what you said is to try and downplay the accomplishment of the women's world champion beating the current number 6 player in the world, former number 3 not too long ago.

[@cchit13]

“An extra pawn always wins the endgame most of the time” 😂

[@albo_ar]

60% of the time, it works every time

[@Peterdeskater100]

And another one: Eline Roebers, defeating Hans Niemann!

[@thetunefulquire]

Yes please #suggestion

[@Sam-qi2gw]

#suggestion +1

[@vicitacious]

#suggestion!

[@jougetsu]

beads malfunctioned

[@FALliadxi299]

#suggestion

[@mikecroke6078]

This end game was absolutely ridiculous. Congrats to Ju Wenjun on this masterpiece!

[@swagatadhara4257]

End game was not good But obviously better than Alireza

[@mikecroke6078]

@@swagatadhara4257 What makes you say the end game wasn’t good?

[@Russ-Sandiford]

Indeed! Wenjun is very talented at grinding a win...

[@FredPlanatia]

@@mikecroke6078 agad explained it during the video. Did you watch the whole thing? Just before time control she didn't make such optimal moves, fortunately for her Alireza didn't find the way to exploit them

[@mikecroke6078]

@@FredPlanatia she didn’t make engine precise moves that humans don’t find. And yes I watched the video. And I watched the actual game in real time.

[@DasTannenbaum]

What an incredible game, I watched it live. Hess and Houska couldn't believe the endgame (and neither could I!)

[@jeffperez9563]

it was so crazy seeing such strong players not trully understand the endgame even with the use of evaluation. Obviously i also couldn´t understand hahaha

[@nasku8172]

her finding Kf2 and having the next 10 moves all figured out absolutely amazed me and the casters aswell

[@manmanman2000]

12:11 "an extra pawn ALWAYS wins the endgame... (most of th time)" 🤣

[@StarryNightGazing]

Agadmatorism

[@soogasooga]

"60% of the time, works every time"

[@gmnotyet]

You're best chance of drawing a losing position is often a pawn-down rook ending.

[@meekaboi]

2380 rated and 0-4 Eline Roebers coming in and crushing Han's tounament chances.

[@gmnotyet]

Huge loss for Hans. Needed to beat the 0-4 player. Losing means he might not win Challenger's now.

[@nicbentulan]

​@@gmnotyet Are you the same guy in X?

[@gmnotyet]

@@nicbentulan No.

[@shanathered5910]

there's still a lot of rounds to go

[@thenewstyle8704]

The live breakdown analysis of the pawn g7 to g6 position was incredible by GM Hess with Irina. Highly recommend it to anyone as it's such a nuanced endgame change that loses Firouzja the game

[@AlexWyattDrums]

Not Irina but Jovanka, right?

[@ShadowK0ng]

Could you please specify a time stamp for this discussion? Thank you. ( GM Hess & Irina's)

[@luigicarlos]

I am now one of the newest fans of Ju Wenjun!

[@stoutlager6325]

Go back and take a look at some of the games in the latest women's world championship match. There were some wild ones.

[@alexisperrottey1640]

beta

[@Dzokhar]

I will never tire of the photo analysis.

[@pieterpek5385]

Thanks!

[@roz472]

I love their game because of the extreme sharpness in their moves, and also considering they did not end in a draw despite the amount of time invested in their game. Wonderful win by GM Ju Wenju! 🎉👏🏻

[@piyushjha757]

#suggestion Gukesh bounced back winning against Nepo in round 5

[@agadmator]

Of course, coming up next

[@water8773]

No one cares about a random Gukesh except Gukeshes themselves.

[@jeffperez9563]

@@water8773 Gukesh random? he is such a worldwide known GM

[@azeemuddinkhan923]

​@@water8773you are literally inviting people to shit on your face by being so cocky.

[@georgeray649]

​@@jeffperez9563leave him bro. Let him blabber whatever he wants

[@ihcfn]

Caught the end of this game and Ju Wenjun's use of time to calculate this was impressive.

[@pineapplesareyummy6352]

Nice game. I did say earlier I want to see the only woman in the tournament, and the underdog in the 2500s (I think her rating is too low for her) do well and win one or two games, send someone's rating crashing. It didn't take long. The game against Giri was a bit unfortunate when Ju could have won or drew. She is playing quite well.

[@starliaghtsz8400]

Why do you think it's too low? The rating system isn't fair or something?

[@jambellen3090]

#suggestion, of course from Tata Steel Challengers, and from these previous videos, please cover Eline Reobers vs Hans Nieman game. #WomenInChess

[@agadmator]

Of course

[@kaashmonee]

Good lord. what a pleasure to watch. what a brilliancy and congratulations to ju wenjun

[@_UnknownEntity]

Ju took Alireza not into a deep dark forest but all around the board, untill he fell off the edge. 😅

[@jameshogan6142]

lol

[@JohnDuthie]

Great recap! Usually your lines are over my head but this one was explained cleanly.

[@omkarpandharpatte]

She's a Fighter! She's doing great in this tournament considering rating gap.

[@goose5462]

great battle between two strong feminine players.

[@doctor_who1]

can you put the chessboard a bit higher? when i zoom in on my mobile the bottom pieces are cut off while there is still space above the top pieces.

[@miecha4445]

Yeah he should really put the chess quote under the board

[@jackreacher8324]

Wonderful game, brilliant endgame skills by ju wenjun, really enjoyed it.

[@AkOutLand]

#suggestion Salem's game from round five in the challengers. And perhaps take a look at the challengers' games in general because they're poorly covered this year by most channels and commentators unfortunately.

[@hdmotivated]

Tata steel never covers the challengers section..this is not new

[@shalevueable]

Ju Wenjun plays like an engine!!! 👋👋👋🌹🌷

[@raylopez99]

Interesting!?

[@michaelmassaro4375]

@@raylopez99yeah very !!

[@mp8359]

I wonder how thorough is the screening🙄

[@willudallmusic]

an extra pawn always wins the end game, most of the time 😂 love it

[@AndersonNeo12]

Alireza and Ju already knew a couple of moves before the end, but they agreed to finish it on a perfect chessboard move 8x8= 64 well done ☺

[@conanbdetective]

I'm glad I clicked that stream as soon as I got off work to see this masterclass live. Amazing game

[@abominationdesolation8322]

It's not that women are bad at chess. It's that there is a sexual dynamic being undermined to everyone's detriment. Speaking only in terms of archetypes and generalities, a man wants to defeat a woman to impress her. Women have the maturity to handle losing to men and are more hardwired to be impressed by it. When a female beats a male, he is not usually impressed, and the female does not give them a sense of "yeah you lost but you can depend on me." That's how I look at it. I want to win so that I'm seen as dependable. Strictly in terms of intersex competition. :p I have no delusions about taking on any female player ranked higher than 2000. I'm not going to win. I would like a girl who IS that smart, but how do you date someone like that? I would always feel like they would be unfulfilled without a partner who is stronger than them. Keeping in mind chess is just a game and doesn't speak on overall intellect or competence. But in terms of primitive, r-complex based psychology, it's just not a good time for someone like me to lose to a woman. Women are not lacking in intellect, but generally speaking they do not have the same level of competitive drive as men. When a man beats me I know there is competitive blood in both of us and that we can both always get better and rise to the challenge. But when a woman beats you, it feels as though you're losing to someone who isn't even fully trying. I also think the less competitive nature of women makes them more defensive and balanced players; they don't get tunnel vision quite as easily as men do. Of course this is all more true for some people and less true for others. I don't mind a chess prodigy gf as long as she's nice to me. :')

[@degew9367]

And you think she plays chess to date?

[@sanfords]

I love it..."Always... most of the time." 12:09

[@HamasakiFanz]

I like the new photo that you use for Ju Wenjun :)

[@trashl0rd]

Oh lord here we go. Just because a woman won a game we gotta powder her butt and sing her praises. Impressive game, props to her. But people gushing over her win just really seems condescending, honestly. It's the same energy as overly praising a child.

[@prafullamorankar6315]

The way Agadmator analyse & explain chess games is so inspiring !!

[@rohan1864]

I appreciate the hidden layers of your personality that occasionally shine through your titles

[@Katarina-wr2hi]

omg your naming is a separate type of art ahhah i love it

[@scudder91]

And it was in this position, on move 1, that Alizera's stylist resigned.....

[@qazzaqstan]

Ju Wenjun beats Mr. Hoodie Guy in a fantastic endgame!

[@CudiBuddy4Life]

What’d I miss, Knight E7 at 6:38 ish w check doesn’t work? Might be obvious to everyone else

[@barun9665]

Awesome. Always great to see Ju beating someone especially Alireza. She's such a nice woman. And a very dangerous player.

[@artsenor254]

It's easier when you don't feel the pressure of playing against Alireza, she thought she was playing Alireaza all along.

[@SFTaYZa]

How many women in the top 500

[@Lahulndc06]

#Suggestion Please cover Santos Latasa, Jamie vs Maurizzi Marc Andria from Tata Steel (2024). It's an unbelievable game.

[@shanathered5910]

I concur

[@anthonyvincel7266]

#Suggestion ELINE AND HANS ELINE AND HANS PLEASE PLEASE ELINE AND HANS

[@MohamedKamalfarag]

Man add the eval bar it is useful

[@theotherjoedimaggio]

12:10 it always wins, most of the time

[@dark_magician_sdy]

#suggestion bring medo into a video ❤

[@PaulSas1963]

Yes, check out the Eline Roebers-Hans Nieman game, beautiful one🎉

[@memathikan98]

Ju Wenjun congrats

[@MrSupernova111]

Nice game by Wenjun!

[@ChessJourneyman]

334th ranked player in the world and a so-called world champion. That says it all.

[@degew9367]

Yet she beat the 6th ranked player

[@badjaeaux]

1:35 chess expert: 'rare, but not incredibly rare' man, if this makes me 10 grand a month, then i'm ready right now

[@WtItCbtLoR]

kick ass Ju Wenjun!

[@michaelmassaro4375]

Suggestion # Gukesh vs Nepo Round 5

[@RapierNeedleCrime]

I forgot where I saw this but someone said that female chess players are probably underrated by their elo because they usually only play other, on average much lower rated, women after seeing Ju Wenjun play this tournament I definitely agree with that, no way she’s only 2550 or whatever she is now!

[@cygnustsp]

Agreed. I'm waiting for a guy who's 2700 changing his gender identity and so would be the #1 rated "womens" player

[@MatthewFiveEightt]

hahahahhahahahaha

[@fabianhauser708]

​@@cygnustsp😂😂

[@luxiyama]

@@cygnustsp people don't "change" their gender identity, they just realize who they really are. No one would go through all the harassment and transphobia just to be a bit higher rated in chess.

[@zyadb_]

​@@luxiyama I'm a hippopotamus

[@nicbentulan]

2nd: PLEASE agad it's been 4 months! 2023 USCC - Atousa almost beat Carissa Yip, the eventual winner! Carissa was losing most of the game. Atousa just blundered in the end. It's Hikaru's WIFE vs Wesley's GIRLFRIEND. #suggestion #womeninchess #uschesschamps #uschess #uschesschamp #uscc

[@Bormanwhat]

Sorry, "you put black in" what? 15:18

[@starliaghtsz8400]

If youre alireza, are you gonna really take a draw with a 2560 player? He tried to push and messed up, and probablt didnt think much of her. Not cos shes a girl but again, hes 200 elo above her

[@timespaice]

Firouzja is the one who took all the risks to not make a boring draw, he didn t make it but still it was a nice try.

[@HorrorGoofy]

ju was not good but alireza is careless

[@dinofx35]

Yes, there was a spelling issue on the board. Black should be “علی‌رضا فیروزجا”, and white: “居文君”

[@SuperAnouri]

12:29 is not double attack because bishop protect pown

[@mariomatanovic2383]

12:13 Agadmator 2024 "and an extra pawn always wins the endgame, most of the times "

[@jeffersonparsons5519]

it serves him right for playing the French defense.😄

[@lajos-berenyi]

Congrats to Ju Wenjun, nice win! WoMeN are not bAd At ChEsS (after the title), but if it is a sensation, when the women word champion wins a game, and she is still under 50% in the tournament, it means, that uplift the women chess is only possible in the way, what Polgar Judit chose, that she didn't play in the separate women tournaments, only on (in gender) open tournaments.

[@starliaghtsz8400]

Judit polgar was gangster tbh, we never had another girl truly be "good" (At the 2700 level) Since then, honestly I wish they stopped having women tournaments and women titles

[@EnGardeLoL]

Just wondering why do you never say Ju Wenjuns name during the commentary, only 'she'? While you often say Alireza

[@amirhurwitz6186]

focusing on the most important thing ever

[@testingmysoup5678]

Because in English that's how linguistics work, she is the subject of the game while he is the object. You can say she because she is in the driver's seat there's no disrespect by saying she

[@EnGardeLoL]

​@amirhurwitz6186 it's just something that felt off. I noticed and commented on it. If it's not important to you or agadmator then so be it

[@EnGardeLoL]

@@testingmysoup5678 ofc not suggesting agadmator is intentionally disrespecting. Just felt like a weird listening experience, hearing Alireza and then 'she', as if he forgot her name part way through the video

[@ashokpayamkulath]

#suggestion.Gukesh-Nepo Round 5 Tata Steel

[@keithmatthews1673]

Today's quite might have been "Women cant play chess" by R.J. Fischer!

[@twa9342]

Absolutely brilliant game.

[@michaelblankenau6598]

You have a low bar for brilliant .

[@MatthewChippendale]

"Juwen Ju with a big glass of water that I believe she refilled over the course of the game "- Agadmator 2024

[@trentvlak]

Wow, such girl power. Now do Ju vs Van Foreest where she blunders mate.

[@danisirooszadeh7305]

How much rating Alireza lost?

[@bhunts4]

Epic game. Epic Win. Candidates tournament next?

[@nicbentulan]

Hans Niemann = next Bobby Fischer - Wesley So = current Bobby Fischer - Bobby Fischer's ghost = old Bobby Fischer - Beth Harmon = Bobby Fischer in another universe Each of these 4 'is a prodigy, had a rather dark childhood and is American'. Speaking of Wesley So Hikaru's (the rapid WFRCC) wife almost beat Wesley So's (the classical WFRCC) girlfriend! 2023 USCC - Indeed Carissa Yip won and thanked Wesley So as her secret second in the 2023 USCC closing ceremony speech. But in Carissa vs Atousa, Carissa was losing most of the game. Atousa just blundered in the end. move 54 for black is an 8-move equality puzzle it's so sharp [Variant "From Position"] [FEN "1Q5k/3r1rn1/p3N3/Pp1p2P1/1q2p3/1B2R2P/5P2/6K1 b"] 1... Kh7 2. g6+ Kxg6 3. Rg3+ Kf6 4. Nxg7 Rxg7 5. Qf4+ Ke6 6. Qh6+ Kf5 7. Rxg7 Rxg7+ 8. Qxg7 Qxb3 PS xcdhgq #suggestion #womeninchess #uschesschamps #uschess #uschesschamp #uscc

[@DoctorRandomercam]

Why do women have their own separate championship? It must be because they're sO GooD aT CHesS

[@gmnotyet]

Uh, no.

[@trashl0rd]

@@gmnotyet Brilliant retort.

[@gmnotyet]

@@trashl0rdThe truth IS brilliant.

[@kagamitaiga7055]

no its too focus on women chess to increases number of women GM also for advertising women chess which is isnt as popular as male one

[@cliverosfield69]

That makes zero f'ing sense​@@kagamitaiga7055

[@tomhejda6450]

14:11 b4, right? It must be b4.

[@vineetthakur1884]

I love her 😭

[@francismapuia]

Sup, i love her first before you, you go love your kind, didi

[@badjaeaux]

if you lose as a grandmaster, you 'succumb' if you lose as an online player, you just 'suck'

[@studbagl]

Putting the bishops on d3 and e3 like Morphy; that’s how you know it’s gonna be a good game.

[@24ghosh24]

Finally a high level game where a woman comes out on top, brilliant.

[@rocketracoon411]

Being the one who only know about rules of chess, this game has a lot of permutations and combinations of winning than I ever thought.

[@moon4tzuyupokeonce41]

It has a lot more which isn't explained in the video...

[@rocketracoon411]

@@moon4tzuyupokeonce41 Being a Math Student, I agree. Possible Permutation of such number of pieces tends to millions of way on 8*8 square board

[@sohamsaha7937]

Where is the coverage of Gukesh vs Nepo? When Pragg wins you cover it within one hour. Why does he always get the spotlight and not others?

[@Vinod.2020-k4z]

#suggestion Roebers vs Niemann - Tata Steel Chess 2024

[@RAT_Z1]

Ju Wenjun kicked ass!

[@The-wu6uo]

She also got her ass kicked

[@KennedyMister95]

Title had me rolling 😂😂

[@pt7258]

This match is going down in history for sure.

[@toSirius]

why?

[@Potatoes_with_peanutbutter]

@@toSirius she evaluated the endgame for white really well. So basically, she moved R3e to R5e and then Ali defended the h5 pawn with pawn to g6. She then played rook to e1 and basically won the endgame with the white king being one less square away from the h5 pawn. This is like 13 moves ahead and pretty accurate since the king was one square less away and able to reach before black could.

[@Potatoes_with_peanutbutter]

I am oversimplifying it though, maybe watch like levy's video on the whole take or rewatch the entire video itself.

[@pt7258]

​@@toSiriusit's very rare for a GM 2550 especially women beating super GM of 2770. Feat achieved only by Queen Polgar.

[@trashl0rd]

Yet she's currently ranked 12th out of 14. Great game or not, her performance isn't stellar.

[@thereminundergrad]

#suggestion you should make a video of every chess game ever played.

[@spinacina_]

Hi Antonio! I highly suggest you to check the game Maurizzi - Latasa from the challenger section round 5. It's a 30 move game with 4 brilliances and 98+ accuracy. ^^

[@nichtrichtigrum]

#suggestion

[@carmelodelcastillo5136]

Alireza played with lower rated opponents to get to candidates. This is what happens when you farm lower rated players. And when games are not fixed. You lose your sharpness and lose games. Karma at its finest.

[@thegreenpaladin]

blud acting as if Alireza didn't just win against 2 2740s and a 2700 at this very tournament.

[@ENZ2103]

Who in the 21st century still says women are bad at chess? Forgetting Ju Wenjun for a moment, have these people forgotten about Judit Polgar? She's right up there with Ivanchuk, Tal, and Morphy for most exciting games.

[@luka7542]

Fuck no she's not

[@jessesandburg]

Judit is the greatest woman chess player ever. She beat Magnus over the board a few years back.

[@manasuniyal2897]

@@jessesandburg It was not a torunament match. They played in a park ......

[@jessesandburg]

@manasuniyal2897 Still quite an achievement. Doesnt take away that she's extremely brilliant.

[@PhilNPrice]

Dude of course she is. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKOqhGqfd759gas for example, and kzbin.info/www/bejne/raaomImCg96rjqc You would be correct to say that she was not quite at the level of those other players -- I think she peaked at "only" number 8 in the world -- but nobody in her era was more of an attacker. Here's Wikipedia: "While having a strong understanding of positional play, Polgár excels in tactics and is known for an aggressive playing style, striving to maximize the initiative and actively pursuing complications. The former world champion Garry Kasparov wrote that, based upon her games, "if to 'play like a girl' meant anything in chess, it would mean relentless aggression." In her youth, she was especially popular with chess fans due to her willingness to employ wild gambits and attacks. As a teenager, Polgár has been credited with contributing to the popularity of the opening variation King's Bishop's Gambit. Polgár prefers aggressive openings, playing 1.e4 as White and the Sicilian or King's Indian Defence with black, but she has also said her opening choices will also depend upon her trainer....Describing an individual encounter with Polgár, former U.S. Champion Joel Benjamin said, "It was all-out war for five hours. I was totally exhausted. She is a tiger at the chessboard. She absolutely has a killer instinct. You make one mistake and she goes right for the throat."

[@joeldick6871]

#suggestion Can you cover Eline Roeber's game against Hans?

[@stateofmontanapal.2506]

Ohh Alireza always wanted to gain more points so he would get back to 2800, unfortunately old times are gone.

[@rickharold7884]

Masterful. Great precise game

[@raantas946]

Stop being unnecessarily edgy, nobody says women are bad at chess

[@degew9367]

So many people say that my guy

[@edwardp7725]

I love that chess is a "sport" that men and women can compete at the highest level and you can actually have a great contest.

[@tristan7720]

Bro...are you serious?

[@jetzeschaafsma1211]

FIDE should ask women if they should stop organizing women's tournaments and stop awarding women's titles.

[@DDKKAY]

02:50 Error 404 😄

[@arkzbh]

#suggestion Gukes vs Ian, where Gukesh played liked Ivanchuk, the great horse move

[@MrSauri1]

You the best Antonio great recap 🫂🔥

[@bigolboomerbelly4348]

Is Agadmator a metal fan? I'd like to say yes for sure.