Wonder of U Vs Josuke Higashikata (Go Beyond)

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Toru (Wonder of U) Vs Josuke Higashikata (S&W:Go Beyond)
Who is Stronger?
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#whoisstrongest

[@Doxe420]

This edit was mainly testing this new style and getting some feedback on the Josuke Dub (Both Voices are made by me, Please give me your honest feedback) I plan on making some Johhny Joestar related edit to give him a DUB voice *Clarification on The Take:* I personally believe that Go Beyond is the stronger ability and hard counters Calamity. You can argue that Wonder of U wins in the right situation and distance, But the definition of “Ignore all reason" can mean a lot of things. For all we know, Go Beyond can noclip through the earth if Josuke aims it approximately towards Toru's direction. However Araki decided to use Paisley Park. Essentially, Go Beyond > Calamity (Evidence in Edit) S&W > WOU (In Combat Skill) That's enough to say Josuke wins high diff imo. If you want to say Toru wins, Go for it🤷 2 Pucci victims regardless 😪🤧

[@turkishbadger]

Hayato victims 🥱

[@-IDontKnow-]

PLEASE JOHNNY VS POLNAREFF WHEELCHAIR BATTLE, IVE BEEN WAITING FOR LIKE ALMODT A YEAR MAN😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@yucatancallejero]

You nailed the voices man they sound pretty good and fitting

[@Cashmiguelyt]

Tbh bro, your voice acting is and will always be amazing. It was so good i thought the voice acting was official from the games. Honestly, keep going bro, i beleive in you I dont wanna sound like a asshole, but can you pls shout me out in your future upcoming edits? I myself am a jjba editor and i dont really get alot of views, so i was thinking it would be an honor to be shouted out by you so i can also be as big as you Pls💙💜

[@barnabassebesteny1490]

thing is the speed should be relative, not to mention that Pucci loses to them both, only way he beats wonder of you is if you think WOU is relativistic max and not higher due to that being the scaling for the fastest character that reacted to it. Against Gappy he stands no chance, if you dare argue that Gappy needs to charge up go beyond I'll tell you that it took Pucci MINUTES to charge MIH to get to Jotaro's speed in p6 MINUTES and even completed, MIH couldn't reach infinite speed as Time Stop shut him down completely instead of just slowing him. AND DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT ARGUING IMMEASUREABLE SPEED, as PUCCI himself DIRECTLY STATES that MIH DIDN'T TRAVEL BACK IN TIME but accelerated time so much the Universe got destroyed and a new one made, THAT IS NOT 5D it is a NOTHING FEAT, also Mr Infiinite-Imeasureable speed pre time accelration was getting outran and outreacted by emporirio (but because he was tired let's just say he scales in speed to a highballed C-moon/white snake). C-Moon the faster one got speed blitzed laughably by a part 6 Star platinum who should be on par with a Prime star platinum who is 4x faster then base silver chariot, meaning that unless you gas weather report up to MFTL at least (which he is not he is FTL+ highballed due to the sun light feat white snake had being slower then that, which means weather would be MUCH SLOWER). weather in emporio's could be further low balled due to emporio lack of experience, and the time accelaration was needed due to pucci being tired (cause if he was not it would not have been neccesary), so the "He only needed 2 seconds of time accelartion copium doesn't work (and also even if it did, if we are using anime timestamps, then DIO and Jotaro can stop time for minutes). No disrespect to you, but ya gotta stop glazing pucci this miuch he is realy not that OP, but aside from the 5d, 4d and the infinite to immeasurable speed cap your scaling would be good if you put the asterix: "with prep time" next to it. like if you only think Pucci is just faster then Jotaro by a lot that's fine but just say with prep time cause without it the fight would look like star platinum vs C-moon. Like for reals I cannot stand Batman and Toji glazers, but I still tolerate them due them admitting that their pookies need prep time to be that strong, please factor this in

[@JollyChristmasSanta]

His voice sounds so realistic, especially the "this bubble is different part". However it doesnt really sound like Josuke but its still great.

[@abiyyupanggalih854]

probably his voice just like Josuke part4

[@TheProphetLot]

@@abiyyupanggalih854 no

[@FittKnight]

🔥damn best jojolion edit out there🔥

[@challpall7862]

best jojo wis editor in town. make gappy vs pucci now

[@Doxe420]

In the future, I will 100% make that. My next edit will probably involve side characters though, I've been doing too many JoJo/Antagonist edits recently

[@Jolynesimpnumber4]

@@Doxe420How about Koichi vs. Kakyoin

[@tavws143]

@@Doxe420 and can you also do johnny vs giorno?

[@Ngu649]

@@tavws143he already did that

[@tavws143]

@@Ngu649 oh... but still might be nice because he updated his scale datas

[@alltimelllone]

Extreme diff & I would definitely give almost everything to wou except speed or hax. I love jojos because the end fights are always extremely situational & involves the protagonist barely being able to win. In an ironic way filled with symbolism, sometimes in order to overcome the impossible and destroy a curse.. you have to go beyond. Jojolion is so peak & truly beautiful man, love this edit!! ❤️🫧

[@theanalogy4791]

It's nice to see a jojo edit thanks you gained a sub.

[@claudiofranca1425]

Man, what a great edit that was, really good

[@REN-991]

W creativity

[@Cashmiguelyt]

Your edits are the best. SUBSCRIBED❤

[@Michael-ex5lj]

Peak edit

[@MrBobytheJJBADude]

Nice voices, Nice edit, everything was just nice, I really missed these.

[@TioTooruYT]

Wonder of U > Josuke GB Wonder of U < Josuke GB and Yasuho

[@Doxe420]

How so? Unless I'm mistaken, Josuke can aim the bubble approximately by the end of the series by redirecting it with S&W. I thought Paisley Park was only there so the bubble could reach Toru since Josuke wasn't near him.

[@Josuke8Man]

​@@Doxe420 Wonder of U> Gappy Go beyond Wonder of U and Tooru < Gappy and Yasuho

[@wow0858]

W edit doxe. W style. People have got to realize just because WOU came back after tooru died doesnt mean anything. Gappys bubbles are too strong and bypass calamity. Without calamity wou is a okuyasu victim. Bro please make happy go byond vs pucci mih now

[@Doxe420]

In the future, I will 100% make that. My next edit will be focusing on Side Characters (Jobros/Side Villains, Etc). I've been doing too many JoJo/Antag Edits recently

[@Sukuna331]

@@Doxe420 Doxe hi bro To whom does the intelligence go? Tooru ? Gappy ?

[@Sukuna331]

@@Doxe420.

[@Doxe420]

​@@Sukuna331 Toru, Easily. (Via Medical Feats+General IQ Feats) Unless you wanted to make the RANDOM headcanon argument that: Josufemi and Kira combined their IQ's when they merged Only issue is that Kira and Josufemi don't really have much screentime so🤷

[@Sukuna331]

@@Doxe420 Thank you for informing me and I hope you come back to DC. I missed the conversation there. ❤

[@ItzOancer]

Over the top voices! And the edit is even better keep on making more fire dude 🔥

[@Mythiic946]

W And Underrated Creator. Edit is Cool.🗿

[@yutakun124]

Hope we get ma boi otoishi witjmh his underrated stand rhcp

[@ZURNEDPOND]

W edit. I wanna see ur takes on pucci vs gappy now

[@Doxe420]

In the future, I will 100% make that edit.

[@KarmaYZ]

That’s it, ima just finish Jojolion already.

[@Mrjojo89]

Nice edit but how do you find the sound very cool man keep up

[@ultrag2222]

Goated edit 🗿

[@Eggguy7565]

I revived to see this W edit once more 😃

[@BlazeZpaze]

the goat is back

[@Waflet717]

W edit. Gappy easily bypasses calamity. GER victims though

[@ultrag2222]

Go Beyond victimizes GER 💀

[@Michael-ex5lj]

Go Beyond destroys GER. Rtz won't work on bubbles

[@Yesbutactuallyno123]

pucci victims

[@Le_C4smicc]

Go beyond completely ignores logic, even if GER could react to it, return to zero would still be completely futile.

[@MrBobytheJJBADude]

Not really true as RTZ makes him never activate Go Beyond in the first place.

[@Rainbow_Knull3431]

Josuke vs Gappy (1v1 or hand to hand battle with no hax, just using their skill and stands strenght).

[@Doxe420]

Unfair fight. Josuke4 Wins No Diff.

[@fortnitesweatkid]

Bro can you make Jonathan Joestar vs Dio part 1 pls bro 🙏

[@Theuniver0809]

W edit 🗣️

[@bred_not]

Enemy: Intent to kill Tooru WoU: stage 4 prostate cancer

[@JamarcusRigaud]

Wou voice is amazing 🎉

[@turkishbadger]

Pucci VS Scarlet King when

[@Doxe420]

Whenever I find a way to convince myself that Pucci no diffs🤧

[@TamakiDamoismyhusbando]

Scarlet King is obviously below tiering

[@kaeru_prolly]

@@Doxe420 shiny (or idontknow) thinks rwby solos fiction so do rwby vs pucci pls (so shiny can shut up and cope)

[@-IDontKnow-]

​@@kaeru_prollybro thinks my pookie's making that

[@-IDontKnow-]

This edit's peak af

[@Infinite_cLIPSforeal]

Huge W

[@amigogabs5031]

W Take. But Gappy hard counters WoU and WoU deals better with most characters of the show Anyways, cheers 🍻

[@CrowleyLMAO]

Which font is this?

[@bambinazo123]

Gappy is basically 50/50 w go beyond but Hes the best written portagonist in the series along with johnny

[@user-dv5uu2gw1e]

Bro is king of capcut for sure

[@aatrofish1858]

How do you make those voices?

[@doomguy9628]

Bubble go break physics

[@Jozx-Kamado]

Creative

[@sin420hova]

Gappy>~W.O.U Extreme-Diff Clarification on The Take: I personally believe that Go Beyond is the stronger ability and hard counters Calamity. You can argue that Wonder of U wins in the right situation and distance, But the definition of “Ignore all reason" can mean a lot of things. For all we know, Go Beyond can noclip through the earth if Josuke aims it approximately towards Toru's direction. However Araki decided to use Paisley Park. Essentially, Go Beyond >~ Calamity (Evidence in Doxes Video) S&W > WOU (In Combat Skill) That's enough to say Josuke wins Extreme diff imo

[@Asamari2334]

Wonder of U wins. Calamity will effect anyone who is not above time, logic and follows the universal laws. Gappy is not above time nor is he above any concepts. Wonder of U himself isnt just a concept, but rather above concepts. We saw this because after gappy shot him with his go beyond bubble(which could erase anything) tooru died but wonder of u came back. This proves to us that wonder of u himself is above concepts. His ability calamity will effect anyone who isnt above time, logic, and universal laws. Gappy is not above time and he does follow the flow of logic making him a victim to calamity.

[@Doxe420]

Firstly, Go Beyond itself scales above Logic and Time. It's stated to ignore ALL REASON and it's even capable of transcending Calamity. (Wonder of U itself is pure calamity energy) All stand abilities (P3-8) drop under some type of reasoning. Timestop, Love Train, Dimension Hopping, Time Erasure, RTZ, Etc Go Beyond transcends those abilities entirely as it ignores all reason and logic. It exist outside of the flow of reason/logic, The chain that Wonder of U was mentioning. In other words, You can argue immeasurable speed and attack potency on a conceptual level via erasing Wonder of U (PURE CALAMITY ENERGY) Also, You can't bring up Wonder of U coming back after Go Beyond. He literally got erased and destroyed by a single Go Beyond shot right after that. That upscales Josuke's A.P if anything? If you want to argue he's beyond concepts, Then so is Go Beyond. All you did was just upscale Go Beyond basically. So yes, Even though Josuke himself might be affected by Calamity Go Beyond itself can never be altered or affected by Calamity. That's why he loses. As long as Josuke is in a situation to aim it approximately, There is no chance that Toru wins.

[@Yurei001]

Okay be logical , can u attack smth that don't exist ??

[@Asamari2334]

@@Doxe420 So u just contradicted ur claim that pucci beats gappy because u said that gappy scales above Logic and Time and pucci mih follows logic and time as it can only accelerate time. U just proved why gappy beats pucci LMAOO.

[@Asamari2334]

@@Doxe420 U just said go beyond transceneds those abilities who follow logic and MIH follows logic so u just proved why gappy beats ur pookie pucci

[@Doxe420]

​@@Asamari2334🤦 You thought you caught me lackin huh? *The reason this doesn't apply to Pucci:* Josuke needs to actually aim Go Beyond approximately at the person to get an accurate shot off. Otherwise, He needs assistance (Paisley Park) That's why he can beat Toru/WOU if it's within a viewable distance. As long as Josuke can see Wonder of U, He can aim Go Beyond and hit him just like he did at the end of the manga. (1. Wonder of U can't react to Go Beyond or see it | 2. It simply bypass the ability) This is why I said that WOU CAN win, But only in a very specific situation like the end of the manga. (Josuke being incapable of controlling Go Beyond at first, Thus why he needed Paisley Park. However at the end, He can aim it approximately) However, Pucci moves so fast that Josuke won't even get a chance to actually aim the bubble approximately. (The bubble fires from his shoulder and Josuke uses S&W to redirect the shot where he wants it to go) Josuke is getting blitzed before he even summons S&W. He won't be able to keep up with his speed, Nor will he be able to sense Pucci. (Since Josuke doesn't directly descend from Jonathan and the original Joestars.) *Can Josuke beat Pucci if he stands completely still, Doesn't move a muscle and lets himself get hit by Go Beyond? Yes.* *Can Josuke beat Pucci in any other situation? No.* While I did infact say that Go Beyond can be argued at immeasurable speed, That's specifically Go Beyond. S&W caps at Subsonic+, Same with Josuke's reaction speed MIH blitzes and one shots before he gets a chance to aim Go Beyond at Pucci.

[@MrBobytheJJBADude]

I am back! I did some research, and when I had said JJBA could be Outer+ you said I was wrong, BUT, a HUGE but. Lovetrain veing beyond dimensions is Outerversal which means you helped my claim 😃. Johnny disabled it, Gyro affected it, and if you believe that Johnny and Gyro>JJBA (Even uncanon) then fine :)

[@MrBobytheJJBADude]

By ' uncanon' (A term that doesn't really exist) I meant Light Novel, (I believe Eyes of Heaven is canon)

[@Doxe420]

Love Train transcending dimensions is only multiversal+ at best...Where did you get outer? Also, The only reason inf rotation can bypass Love Train is due to gravity. Furthermore, Johnny and Gyro aren't that strong. Polnareff himself has a 50/50 chance of beating both of them. (Via Speed blitzing depending on distance) They don't stand a chance against Jotaro, DIO, Pucci, Etc

[@Doxe420]

​@@MrBobytheJJBADudeAlso, Novel Kars/DIO are DECIMATING the canon verse and EOH

[@MrBobytheJJBADude]

@@Doxe420 It's cause if you go look up scaling, it says Infinite dimensions is Hyperversal and being BEYOND dimensions is Outerversal

[@MrBobytheJJBADude]

@@Doxe420 I was saying that I think EOH is canon

[@theanalogy4791]

Song name please😊

[@Doxe420]

“Fainted" by narvent

[@usuario56525]

🔥

[@realmadduck2464]

Didn't he need help wven with that ability to bypass calamity to win?

[@giuseppeeboli8378]

Josuke beated wonder of you Because of prasley park Shooting at tooru SaW: go beyond (solo) would lose

[@PlayBoiKami]

Pesci mogs 🍍

[@anotherone1680]

WOU he dont have range enough to hit him even If he Goes to a closet combat WOU can avoid that and set traps in the way

[@digoxavier1036]

Giorno vs Wonder of u remake

[@LOPDALX]

In skill Tooru better than josuke, just because he using his stand for like, 200 years.

[@TamakiDamoismyhusbando]

W

[@inky3856]

"Soft and weto"

[@Jacksontrooper777]

Extreme diff

[@MILF_MAN-x4w]

Wwwww

[@JulioPeparper]

Extreme diff better

[@Doxe420]

Realistically, Josuke aims Go Beyond at Toru/Wonder of U, He might get hit by a calamity but Go Beyond would remain unaffected and finish the job pretty quick🤷

[@Shuttercockperson]

@@Doxe420 if gappy masters go beyond (possibly in part 9?) Hes cooking the verse

[@Masterassassin93]

Peak 🔝🔝

[@Drk_yy]

You expected a comment but it was me, DIO!

[@AG-fm5tc]

Peak edit