Wonder Woman was a Bad Movie

[@nihad-m]

Oh it feels so good hearing someone else rant about this movie😌😌

[@codemastertalon6439]

At best an average movie, so many flaws are overlooked simply because its DC and its not a piece of garbage - but jesus how does it have 92% on rotten tomatoes its like a 6 or 7 out of 10

[@MattSolnick]

Amen. Totally Agree. Although to be fair, that number is a little deceiving. The critics score is an average of 7.6...but like still. People perceive is as a 92% which is ridiculous. It's a fine movie in a what is usually a subpar genre.

[@74H3iD]

Good video, surprised you only have 800 views...

[@MohammadSawalhatheboss]

The worst movie ever

[@missmadigan9285]

Also for being a so called feminist movie, she was oversexed quite a bit and they had to make it a point to comment on how gorgeous she is constantly throughout the film. I didn’t feel that to be an empowering message. And you were absolutely right in saying there was zero character growth.

[@missmadigan9285]

Couldn’t have said it better myself. This was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. I can’t wrap my head around why people liked it so much. It was God awful.

[@soundlight3569]

Man, maybe you don't understand the movie. Give it another chance. Let me share something. This is a metaphorical movie, you are not seeing what you think. There is an emotional meaning behind the scenes, in fact she face a very hard obstacle and in fact she change very deep, but that is not obvious, is put in a lot of metaphores and details. There is a reason why she blame Trevor and is supose that the public must discover that, is part of the flaw in her, the great flaw she must overcome or fall into darkness. Ares said she is the godkiller for a reason and you must discover why, but instead you take the easy path to think that is an error instead to think, hey ... there must be a reason why he did that, its a clue. If you try to analize this movie in a rational way then you loose the more important part of the story, but if you connect with the emotional flow, then you can understand what it really means. Do you understand why Antiope don't let Diana came close to her after she fall in the training field? Do you understand why the Antiope's second said "you are bleeding" but there is no blood and she is not hurt? All this things mean something and are an invitation for you to discover what, but if you think that are just errors then you loose the oportunity to connect with the beautiful meaning of the movie. Of course, there is nothing wrong if you don't like the movie, but the dialogs and images contains an invitation to see beyond the surface. Some examples, "I am both, frightened and arose". Did you see who was frightened and arose in the screen? (it wasn't the one who said the words). Do you understand why Sameer and Charlie do nothing? Don't fight, don't shoot, don't kill. This is just an error or mean something more? Is the watch an excuse for a sexual joke or means something? A burden maybe, like the ring? Maybe you can give another chance to this movie .. in another moment (apologize for my english).

[@MattSolnick]

Thanks for taking the time to respond! I'm glad you were able to find the video. Where are you from? I agree - there is always much more thought put into everything than what appears on the surface. Even wardrobe and camera angles can subtly signify things such as an emotional state or power dynamics. I think you're spot on with some things - like Sameer and Charlie. Their lack of violence said something about the humanity and good in soldiers who are often forced to become tools of much bigger, perhaps oppressive forces (their governments). However, I think you may be reading into and appreciating the movie more than it deserves. For instance, you claim that of her saying "you're bleeding" meaning something deeper due to the fact that you cannot see blood. While you may be correct, I think this was likely a piece of dialogue that should be taken at face value and the lack of blood simply a detail chosen by the director for non-metaphorical reasons. There very well might have been blood, but we aren't shown because it isn't important to see? Certainly every director goes into the filmmaking process with a plan for making every moment and image of the movie have a deeper meaning, but I feel that you're giving this movie special treatment. One could argue that when Jonnny in the movie The Room says, "Hi doggie", it has a deeper meaning that reflects the beautiful connection between man and animal kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJnUgGeegbCJp8U. But I do understand your points. I just felt that the movie was extremely flawed, and not deserving of any more merit than a standard Hollywood blockbuster. This review explains it in better detail ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/bISze3p_gL-tppI ) but perhaps we can agree to disagree. Once again, thank you for reaching out!

[@soundlight3569]

Hi, I am from Chile, and english is not my language so I apologize if I say something that seems ofensive in any way, is not my intention. Yes, I understand the flaws people find in the plot and sure, may be you are right and I give a special treatment to this movie. But before agree on that, let me try to explain why I really like this movie. Some years ago I study a simbolic language and when I saw the movie I really enjoy the emotional conection with the story and chracters, but I did not recognize nothing special except that some dialogs and scenes were strage to me, like you said, with some flaws, but I really thought that mean something. So, in first place I really enjoy the movie without any analysis. I saw the movie again and I found more aparent flaws but I enjoy the movie a lot more that the first time and the impression that I was missing something grows a lot in me. This send me in a journey to try to understand why I feel in that way, so I saw the movie a third time and suddenly I recognize a symbol, a scene on the screen was one of the symbols I study years ago. I wonder if the others symbols could be there too and it was so wonderful when I found every single one of them, but were not just the image, the dialogs, the characters and the situations show those symbols too. Then, I realize this movie is like a painting, a poem, is not literal, is made with metaphores and the symbols that I found explains everything. That was the reason the plot seems to have many holes or flaws, we can't analize poetry in a literal way, it must be feeled, interpreted, it need time to go deep into the meaning. The movie bring several positive, encouraging, trascendents messages in a very subtle way. Someday people will recognize that. if You are not boring yet, let me show you the symbols. This movie has several layers of meaning supported in the journey of the hero like is represented in the 22 mayor arcana of Tarot. There is two set of image of tarot that are the main imaginery of this movie, Rider-Wite and Mistic. The symbols are: 0The Fool (Diana walking to the cliff under a brigther day), I The Magician (Diana with the sword, the lasso and the shield, II The Highest Priest is Antiope, III The Empress is Hipolyta, IV The Emperor is the external world ruled by men, V The Hierophant is Etta Candy, VI The Lovers is her conflict between help people or continue her mission, VIIThe Chariot is she walking alone into no man's land, VIII The Justice is Diana judging Steve friends (lier, asesin and moniker), IX The Hermit is the american native, X The Weel of Fortune is the flip of reality (salvation and death of people of veld), XI The Force is the test Diana fail, selfcontrol, not be dominated for wrath and arrogance, XII The Hanged Man is Steve (means sacrifice), XIII Death means face inevitable change (Dianas black clothe when she left Temiscira), XIV Temperance is a caring heart, guardian angel, healing, like Diana in the top of the church and Charlies healing, XV The Devil is part man and part woman (Ludendorff and Maru), XVI The Tower is the crisis in the Watchtower, XVII The Star is The hope that help Diana to not follow Steve, XVIII The Moon is confusion and danger, the confrontation against Ares, XIX The Sun is divine love, the power to dispel darkness ("I believe in love" and the image of The Sun show a wall that stop any darkness, the same invisible wall against crash all the things that Ares send to her), XX The Judgment an angel in the sky proclaim a sentence and XXI The World a woman floating in the sky with her arms at her side, is the heaven get down to earth. i will write a little more later, but if you read about the symbols then you will see the layers of meaning. In one layer, The movie is a metaphore of human life. Temischira is the mother's body where a baby is growing, the only baby in the Island. In the training field the circle of Amazons is the uterus, the hits against Diana are the first contractions, the explosion comming from Diana is the break of amniotic sac, and this is the reason of the words "you are bleeding". The battle in the beach iis part of the birth process, with all the pain and violence, the death of Antiope is the death of the placenta, and this process continue until Diana is borne, left her mothers belly and arrive to the external world with no coming back. This show the strength of womens inside her body, the power to bring new life, the dedication of antiope, the love. Then comes childhood, that is the reason why Diana act more like a child in London, but it is hide like a fish out of water. Then come adolescence in the path to war, where she takes her first great decision and start to show her own identity in no man's land. The movie show everything and hide everything... And this is just one layer, there is more, the conflict, the test she must pass, many many things more. Its a wonderful movie (lol), but is late and I dont know if I boring you. Have a good day.

[@MattSolnick]

Wow, that's amazing. Although I didn't get the same meaning and intense connection to the movie, I'm glad you (and I hope others) did. You should write about your thoughts on a blog or make a video or something - you definitely have something meaningful to say and I'm sure others would like to hear :) And although I know you are using the birth metaphor specifically with this movie, I think that's an interesting analogy that could be applied to many stories that follow a "hero's journey". I'm going to have that in mind when I watch future movies.

[@soundlight3569]

Thanks, you are ver kind. I will try. Some last ideas to share. Spiritual seroius people say that a new energy is replacing the old energy in the world and there is a lot of turbulence, political, economic, etc. Thats is the metaphore in the old Ares and the young Diana. The wheel of fortune represent a total change in reality beyond our control. When that hapen, we blame others for that, is a human reaction. thats is the reason why she blame Steve. More important, the whole conflict was about the use of power dominated by wrath and arrogance. Diana was almost perfect human been, but she was too arrogant so she could be manipulated. All the actions of Ares has one goal, to cheat hear so she fall in the same actions that humanity, fight on one side against the other side for the same reasons. Ares inspires Maru's gas so Diana believe that Ludendorff was Ares. The conflict and cheating was in the repetition of the scene where Diana rise a sword against Ludendorff and raise a tank against Maru. The lesson of the arcana The Force is the one she learned when remember her own words "whatever it is, I can do it, let me do it". When she recall that, Diana understood how arrogant she was to think that she was better that humanity and that one person could save everybody. Best wishes for you and I will try to follow your advice.