Wood fired turbo barrel MAXIMUM boost test

Here in episode 5 we have made the burn barrel even cooler by adding a new ecu and a flamethrower.

[@haltech]

Pretty sure *you* broke the turbo. :p

[@kyro0996]

Upgrade to a train turbo

[@Loudkona]

​@@kyro0996 it would take a year to spool but I like the idea of a lot of boost 😊

[@Edward135i]

Do yo think Scottie could Tune it for them?

[@picax8398]

@@Loudkona it might actually make enough thrust to move it lmao

[@xuejiaoxu6778]

​@mudmowergaming5566 maybe a compound set up is in order

[@haywoodf]

Spraying fuel into the turbine exhaust will do the evaporative cooling thing so a bleed igniter for after burner from prior to turbine might be an option. Alternate is just a spark plug igniter placed in your perfectly profiled exhaust thrust nozzle. BTW love your fabulously curated work which targets what really counts AND intrepid safety first approach! Onya Boys!

[@ToastyMozart]

It probably needs to have some kind of bypass air injected too. With all the soot (unburned wood) coming out of that thing it seems safe to say the exhaust doesn't have enough oxygen left in it to burn even more fuel.

[@ChoChan776]

​@@ToastyMozartThe oxygen content probably isn't too much of a concern, many afterburning turbojet engines use no bypass air. The main issue would be keeping a flame going at those kinds of exhaust gas velocities. Probably have to come up some kind of flame holder rather than a pinched piece of brake line.

[@tomstech4390]

6 months late but.... route the E-wastegate output to the turbine (pre or post turbine because who cares).

[@scottleggejr]

This sounds like building a bomb or one hell of a cool backfire.

[@BIGGlep]

It's so neat to think about these because unlike normal jet engines, you are throttling the air instead of throttling the fuel, so it is always running super rich. There probably isn't any oxygen left in the exhaust.

[@scottleggejr]

Yea exactly! On another one of these on a diff youtube channel they had some kind of o2 sensor. Their stoich ended up being calculating to like 30:1 or something crazy, but they all depend on the fuel you're using. Alky vs meth vs gas are all different sensors and stoich.

[@lerska4506]

We made turbo furnace with a system to control the fuel (wood fumes). Basically there are to pipes for the fresh air to go: Straight in the exhaust (secondary) or straight to the firewood. The unburnt fuel will burn on the way to the exhaust pipe as there is more air coming from the secondary pipe.

[@mzmatze]

What you need is a cyclone separator between the fuel barrel and the exhaust turbine of the Turbo. So you can separate the chunks of woodfrom the exhaust gases. Otherwise, these chunks go through the turbine as you can see as spontaneusly occuring flashes of smoke in the exhaust gas. This should extend the lifespan of the turbocharger significantly. :)

[@MoronicAcid1]

Water bath filter is simpler, will have cooler exhaust temps, and generate steam pressure.

[@dank_productions94]

The ultimate burn barrel progression!

[@lifebehindtheselens]

I've been waiting for this for so fucking long thank fuck that you're released this you guys are amazing -guy from usa

[@JoshRoeloffs]

The voice over has me dying

[@robcantwell1981]

That was great and I really liked the David Attenborough commentary

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

We had a lot of fun making this episode. Thanks mate!!

[@MartinBalle7]

I think you need a sort of grid /filter to stop debris from killing the turbo.

[@pauljs75]

They could add a big metal spiral of steel pipe with holes drilled to face the center to route the injected air inwards (the flame front will be on the incoming air mixing into the hot combustible gas), and then have a labyrinth passage before the exit pipe going to the turbo. The burn chamber itself just needs an even swirling flow of gases, but not a lot of velocity. The air-injector/burner also would act as a diffuser. The labyrinth section would slow some movement down to precipitate out the heavy ash, and then the outlet for the turbo is where pressure would get exchanged for velocity to do its thing.

[@andronclock1]

Top level content!!!

[@pulsorohr]

Hey guys, try to use the wastegate to make a steady bypass of air to the turbine inlet. So you dilute the hot gases with air wich loweres the turbine intakte temperature. Normally in small turbines only 25% of air is used for combustion, the rest is for cooling the burned gases. Best Regards Stefan

[@BigKandRtv]

Straight up fantastic. Love the narration.

[@stevesting8701]

Well done fellas, keep them coming...

[@Gslice-ok4ck]

Narration makes this video A++

[@adamfrbs9259]

I love all these burn barrel turbo videos.

[@Lukab99]

try routing the excess air from the egate to the up pipe before the turbine housing to cool the EGTs and give the kero some oxegen. Great videos btw

[@duds3833]

This, this is art

[@gafrers]

Fantastic. Quite the investment into this version of the turbobarrel

[@RedmistAU]

You guys are truly on the cutting edge of cocking about, Well done Dogs

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

haha i see we have common interests

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

With the controller operating, this actually becomes a great way to get consistent and predictable behaviour, meaning the barrel can be used to run a forge or kiln, or heating large volumes in emergencies during winter, or rapid inflation of hot air baloons. The flame thrower should all be done in the exhaust, but needs to have an air intake back there that sucks clean air in to burn with the extra fuel, the same way a Jet uses the cold air from the bypass fan to add fuel to in an Afterburner.

[@Kapil-Patel]

CAMMPP DOGSS !!! 😎 Absolutely fucking beautiful lads, from start to finish. The voice-over is genius and the after burner build was fantastic. I don't suppose you'd try oil cooling the turbo again ? either way excited to see what you come up with next 👍🏽

[@zachreyhelmberger894]

Nice work!!

[@jimmykreutz6087]

The Atterborough touch is brilliant

[@myusername111]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE NARRATION WELK DONE LADS

[@katenrr]

Bad ass video subscribed !!!

[@NeverLetOff]

This is so awesome!

[@jasmenter]

narration rocks guys, keep on spooling ya

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

Cheers mate!

[@DBZCNT]

Best video yet

[@HowToTurbo]

Is that you, Dad?

[@projectLSaudiA4]

Didn’t know BBC was sponsoring voiceovers for this channel 😅

[@ToastyMozart]

There's probably not much oxygen left in the exhaust stream for the afterburner fuel to burn. Your best bet would probably be to take a page from fighter jets' book and use the bypass air from the valve instead - routing it into the exhaust pipe if you want all the fun stuff coming out of one end. It'd probably benefit from an ignition source like a spark plug too.

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

When we had the wideband on there the richest we could get it to read was around 27-1… Usually it sits around 35-1 (reading too much air) Hopefully this means there is still plenty of oxygen in the exhaust

[@CoryBoehne]

Dual turbo - one feeding into exhaust, with the fuel line. Afterburner much?

[@TheFoyer13]

@@MattBerrymotorsport the egt's reported temps high enough to ignite the kerosene though right?

[@chrisprobert6]

quality entertainment right there.. you can keep that up lads. nice one....👍

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

cheers Chris, plenty more to come!!

[@nzmiddamoore]

absolutely magnificent

[@alwaysthinking614]

badass hell yeah brother

[@andrewcammer2535]

The Atterburo voice overs are priceless!

[@timtrial3971]

I enjoyed this much more than walruses tumbling off cliffs, David.

[@dezdolla]

Yeah the boys 🔥🔥

[@thewayfaringanarchists8157]

This is gods work

[@badcookie13]

The dog living his best life, doing real man-science with the boys! 💪

[@Luftbubblan]

The narrating speaker sounds gr8 :D

[@paultucker2027]

To help make the turbo last longer build a cyclone (Dyson) style filter to go in the manifold between barrel and turbo. love the commentary 😂

[@jeremyhall964]

I think plumb your e-gate into the exhaust post turbo with a longer exhaust straight bit to contain. Also for longer run time I suggest a secondary pump feeding the intake with used oil, more energy compared to wood and easier to spray pre turbo.

[@usefulemptiness2410]

Nuts. And that's good. Instead of a fuel pump you can feed the fuel with a boost line from the cold side to the to of an airtight fuel tank, where you fed the fuel line from the bottom of the said container. It would be nice to add the air from the waste gate to the beginning of the burner as well. Probably a valve would be good in that case so there is an option to vent it direct to atmosphere as now, or full/partly feed it to the burner. A little different design, and your flame thrower turns into a makeshift afterburner that produces som measurable thrust.

[@usefulemptiness2410]

Drop that thing about the boost line into the fuel tank. To big risk to get an explosive mix of fuel and air. Needs a workaround to be safe enough.

[@justins21482]

ya know.....i wasnt sure i was going to sub because well its youtube and there is so much out there, you tend to get real particular about the content you prefer but my god...between the david Attenborough (either AI or a someone with a near spot on voice) voice over or the drilling between your toes....and combo that with videos of your starlet.....sold....where do sign on the dotted line lolol you guys have my kind of sense of humor. cheers from michigan!

[@2alawabidingcitzen]

Also you had my sub at the national geographic narrator. 😂😂 golden.

[@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies]

Jackie Chan exhaust fan... I like that one!

[@markhonigschmid6116]

insane project... ❤❤❤😂😂😂

[@Rigohm]

I can’t wait to see a compound turbo setup next. which turbo would blow up first? 🤔

[@shannonsisk]

Compound wouldn’t move any more air than the big atmosphere turbo can provide. The goal with compound is response, usually on a diesel. It doesn’t make any more airflow than just a single.

[@H3adcrash]

Bargain-bin David Attenborough is something else! Well done guys!

[@evil17]

This is a work of art guy’s, gr8 job & vid. I’m no jet engineer, but I believe the internal burn chamber should be modified something like a jet engine, with a cylindrical burn chamber & a small round door on the end to seal it so the air can be blown around the outside of the burn tube & enter the burn chamber through a pattern of air inlet holes as you might find in a jet engine, this would help to cool the outer chamber & introduce the air more evenly. It would be easy to add a bit of Deisel, kero, sump oil at this stage with a smaller amount of wood firing into such a chamber for more control and longer run sessions. 2-3 stainless grill grates or some sort of a conical slotted filter at the exhaust turbo end of the burn chamber might help reduce the amount of ash & wood particulates going through the turbine & help them last a bit longer, but then they are copping a flogging. Love ur work n effort guy’s. Cheers

[@Stoney3K]

The reason you're eating turbos is because the turbine inlet temperature is way too hot. The turbine wheel will overheat and distort, as well as the bearings. If you want to save future turbos, the best way is to have a combustion tube that is surrounded by another tube so the combustion gases are mixed with colder bypass air coming from the compressor. For a quick fix you may even be able to use the wastegate for this, with the air coming from the wastegate going into the turbine through a T or Y piece to mix with the gases from the fire, cooling them down.

[@travisclarkin4277]

The dog running had me dead😂😂😂

[@stringyGG]

7:28 the dog didn't think so either hahaha...

[@TheLargino]

I hope the Camp Dogs threw the spear grass seeds at each other in true Territorian fashion.

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

You’re obviously a local 😂

[@TheLargino]

@@MattBerrymotorsport Not so local anymore. But watching you guys brings back fond memories. Territorian content on YT is even scarcer than the total number of Territorians. Subbing to your channel is the least I can do to make the NT more visible to the world. It also helps that your burn barrel appears to be the most advanced in the world.

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

@@TheLargino we are pushing hard mate, so many good ideas to bring to life. Cheers for the comment!!

[@MichelleSleeper]

I'm glad that Nick can minimize - but not totally eliminate - the chance of someone dying #campdogs

[@lukeonuke]

at this point i wouldnt be suprised if the next episode there is a ramjet at the end of the barrel sidenote, maybe cool the turbo with some kind of oil or water cooling so the poor thing doesnt melt instantly

[@ChiefRickyRC]

Excellent work 👏 how do i get that voice over? 🤣 that was great

[@Fortenurg]

The 1905 patent by Alfred Büchi, a Swiss engineer working at Sulzer is often considered the birth of the turbocharger.

[@pavelstoikov3780]

ok watch 5 videos and i am hook sub for u boys u crazy aussies "bbq+turbo" i like it 🍾🍾👌👌 and i love the discovery vibes o this video 😂😂

[@lau4893]

The world is in trouble. Aussie madlads are now turbojet engineers... We're as good as lost

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

It’s only going to get worse 😆

[@peterk730]

Danger to the manifold!

[@camresearch5120]

Legends mate 🧉

[@Exserik]

Submerge the whole thing in a big water tank with just the intake and exhaust above/outside the water tank and you’ll be able to run it for much longer. Also maybe the turbo will survive longer with cooling. Another thing to make the turbo last would be some kind of cyclone before the turbine to get rid of some of the crap in the exhaust from the barrel.

[@carldalsasso8603]

The one issue I see in common with evry design I've seen is the lack of elevated combustion chamber within the main chamber thus keeping the heat further away from the pressurized walls making the system safer and creating better air flow around fuel materials. 🤘 I NOW we must use the exhaust pressure to spin another turbine coupled with a generator. Thus a new wood/trash incinerator / generator is born 💯(yes I posted this on the older video first lol)

[@mr.pineapple7620]

I think they need to use a lower A/R exhausted manifold to reduce flow rate because currently they are definitely also over spooling the turbo. With a smaller exhaust side the pressure inside the barrel would increase with lower airspeeds (Wich would kick up less of the solid particles inside) while also facilitating a cleaner burn. A water injection before the turbo would also probably increase turbo drive pressure (more power for the turbine) while also reducing turbine manifold temps. All of this would definitely increase turbo lifespan

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

Great suggestion we are still playing with it

[@mr.pineapple7620]

@@MattBerrymotorsport can you measure the CFM of the next one? That would be interesting to see where on the compressor map the turbo is at that point in Time

[@thepilotman5378]

I can't believe y'all got david Attenborough to narrate this

[@tnc4700]

Haltech strikes again 😆

[@2taktfriseur]

fucking awsome guys love it

[@Sion_Revan]

Here we have the species Homo Erectus Hooliganus, skilled builders they fashion themselves marvellous yet dangerous creations. Truly majestic creatures.

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

😂 you are now one of us

[@hammertime1621]

"The Nagasaki noise maker" David Attenborough

[@phantomduck3626]

I recommend having double exhaust and intake with 60-80mm turbos on both

[@dev-debug]

Don't know who that was be he did a perfect David Attenborough. Now we had a lesson on camp dogs lol

[@bennyboyy7]

I think some copper gaskets would help, might be wrong but worth a try I think.

[@ytxstream]

We need turbo Yoda on this series

[@ProlificInvention]

This is fu©ki🆖 awesome, enough said

[@shannonsisk]

It’s like it blows all the wood debris to the back and pushes it out the turbine. I haven’t had any issue shooting wood out of mine, and it’s a vertical setup. Yours is horizontal. Could be the issue. Sweet boost control!!!

[@3ch0_17]

You need to make a dual wall pipe which is fed by the compressor that runs along the exhuast feed, hot end and outlet for cooling and a simple afterburner. You could do this by placing a second, smaller sized analog wastegate further down the intake and routing its waste through a pipe that eventually envelopes the exhuast feed, hot side and outlet pipe. Cut some directional tear drop shapes in the outlet pipe and run the cooling/ afterburner shroud about 3 inches past the end of the outlet pipe. This should reduce the overheating and make much larger flames.

[@mathewforsman5824]

It's all the debris coming out of the barrel that's screwing the turbos. You need a way to catch it. I suggest some sort of steel plate that has small holes punched/drilled in it. You also should mount the intake and exhaust tangential to the barrel circumference, to encourage a vortex in the barrel. There's a lot of energy in there being wasted

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

Great idea we are working on something 😄😄

[@theLyzhendricks]

​@@MattBerrymotorsport how long tho we want more burn barrels

[@EdBoi18]

I think one thing that could be done would be to have a second barrel fed from the exhaust from the first with water being sprayed into the second barrel to get additional expansion and the second barrel could allow the exhaust flow to slow down a bit before going into the turbo and would be a good way to keep stuff from getting into the turbo. Size the second barrel a bit bigger than the first, feed from one end and mount the turbo to the other end.

[@sebbes333]

*@Camp Dogs* 6:09 IDEA: Add an afterburner of some kind? (you probably know better than me, what to use for that). .... Alternatively, add a fuel injector to spray in gasoline or something to make that fire jet several meters long :D 8:12 Ok?! AWESOME! :D

[@Mr.Mister001]

Stainless mesh in the exhaust with diesel spraying onto it. That's how most oil burners work.

[@cyrusthevirus6383]

Nice new Wuhan Whirleyboy!

[@christopherpollard7244]

Would cooling the air pre exhaust manifold with a methanol be possibility? And then using a spark to ignite fuel inside that there boom tube, strap it to something with wings, and take off mates. 👌

[@dr3ww3rd87]

3 turbo, 2 tanks, half wood pressure vessel/half water. 1 steam turbo 2 wood turbo. one tank down to refill water/reload wood while the other is in use. brushless 3 phase electric on inlet shaft of each for building boost then regenerative braking as generator. could use steam output to tesla steam turbine as well.

[@NoobDgn]

Hey man. I recently bought a 93/94 toyota paseo, and am currently fixing the car for day use. however it is being very difficult to get information both about the engine (5E-FE) and about the car itself. Do you know a place where I can find a manual or something? I really appreciate your projects!

[@altairider]

Это просто обалденно!

[@FightinAggieFarmer]

The narration on this makes the video.

[@JSprayaEntertainment]

try flame thrower inserted right before turbine wheel maybe? ??? or add a flame tube

[@joseph8852]

So when is a second turbo get added to the mix boys

[@aretardridesmotard6128]

Brilliant

[@hudaalkaabi4274]

HALTECH TURBO BURN BARREL EXPLODES MAXIMUM RUNAWAY BOOST TEXT 130 PSI PRESSURE EXPLODES!!!!

[@goodyfpv2297]

Do you have enough oil pumping into the turbo at full boost sounds like the car that's pumping the oil is only on idol?

[@MoronicAcid1]

A few ideas: 1. Compressor to high pressure air tank. A valve between the HPA tank and combustion chamber throttles the speed. Compressor doubles as an oil pump sucking oil into the HPA tank. The oil is separated in the HPA tank and fed back to the turbo, since the HPA tank has the highest pressure in the system, there shouldn't be any issue with oil backflow. 2. An open wood feed tube with a nozzle. This nozzle will keep the combustion chamber pressurized with air from the compressor/HPA tank without backflow of air/exhaust despite being otherwise open to the atmosphere. This will also negate any leaks from the gasket on the current wood feed. 3. Water bath filter will filter out debris, cool the exhaust, and generate steam power.

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

love the ideas! how would a water bath filter work?

[@MoronicAcid1]

@@MattBerrymotorsport The water bath could be a U-shaped pipe between the combustion chamber and the turbine or a pipe from the combustion chamber into the bottom of a reservoir containing water. As the exhaust passes through the water, any particulates and tars will accumulate in the bath. When the system starts water will be pushed out the combustion side of the U or pipe, and the water in the turbine side or reservoir will rise accordingly. You'll also need to account for evaporation losses or use a float valve in the design.

[@shrek_428]

This must be the real deal, with David Attenborough doing the narrating.

[@jimmybriscoe8918]

How did y’all melt the intake?!

[@171apples171]

Shower injection, like a rochester TBI with no throttle blade. Right on the intake of the compressor. To fuel this crude jet engine, not for the flame thrower lol might throw some flames anyways though

[@NavySturmGewehr]

I think... I'm just spitballing here... but putting the waste gate on the exhaust side would make a big difference. I think you're really on point with a giant receiver, but I think the end cap should be cut off, a flange put on. so you can fill the combustion chamber. Put a combustion liner in it, and some kind of simple swirl vortex setup to prevent the turbo from being sand blasted by so much ash. I would imagine a smaller turbo would actually be better, keep the pressure up but total exhaust velocity down.

[@rawhidelamp]

You could try spraying a small amount of water into the turbo to cool the barrel if that helps

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

cool idea!

[@kyleduke9055]

Needs a big belly full of Nos straight in to the turbo inlet

[@93jummy]

Have you guys tried running a used oil feed drip or spray in to the burn chamber. A decent green stick should give more run time and burn I think it could run for longer and safer. Be a huge wase oil furnace

[@MattBerrymotorsport]

cool idea!!

[@EumlOriginal]

What you are building here is something like a Mechanical Rocket Stove Therefore you shouldn't use charcoal, you need the wood gas which also gives you the pressure... Speaking of pressure, you have noticed yourself that NOS is useless, if you want to have such an effect, spray water through a nozzle By the way, it is good with wood gas to have a very high temperature in the container, but this will lead to the steel melting, which is not uncommon even with normal rocket stoves, so you should protect the container from too much heat by e.g. fireclay or vermiculite, you should also consider connecting the input and output to cool the turbocharger a little

[@j.g.capponi2865]

If you inject nitrous into the compressor with a intake system it will keep the turbo a lot cooler and make it last longer