Woodland Photography | A New Approach

[@1208Lotus]

You mirror your love to nature SO well in your motives!!

[@thebeardedphotographer1595]

We love all your content Henry! Beautiful images as usual. Keep up the great work.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much!

[@howardgrillphotography2280]

Photograph what it feels like instead of a specific subject. I really like that way of thinking. Enjoyed the whole discussion and images.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks for watching Howard

[@PMCN53]

Hi Henry, I love the mood of the image at 8:38, no specific subject bet one you can visually explore. Cheers, good to be able to get out again!!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much Phil! Yes ‘visually explore’ I like that term a lot

[@robertdavis1255]

Thanks for sharing information/comments on your approach to woodlands photography.... I have always believed there are no 'bad' photos of woodlands..love your videos... Cheers..

[@jwdsnapper]

Must admit, Henry, l didn't think those shots would work but they did...big time! Every vlog I'm learning so much about photography and all it's elements, so thanks again.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers James - really appreciate the comment

[@kevinmorris5300]

Thanks for this video, I love woodlands, but find them a real challenge to photograph. This should give me some ideas/guidance next time i try, lovely images.

[@richardmbunn]

You always have the best soundtrack for your videos. Beautiful video and I love the hashtag and sharing people's insta posts. All fantastic images. :-)

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers Richard, much appreciated mate

[@hjones451]

The one thing about Woodland Photography is it's a calming experience - sunlight with all its challenges is mostly essential in my opinion.

[@stevenharland556]

yay it,s Sunday,another great video Henry,2 beautiful pictures,i feel you really captured the essence of the woodland with these pics,and i just want to thank you for taking the time to share your art with us,it truly helps brighten up my day,thank you.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a million as always Steven

[@markchatfield4106]

Just came across your videos and glad I did. Great videos for a novice like me. Cheers

[@johnsparkes8963]

Nice video Henry very good images as usual. I enjoy woodland photography plenty near me around Gloucester. Stay safe.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers John, much appreciated and yes I'd say you're spoilt for choice around Gloucester

[@patrickcoggins6279]

Really enjoying your videos. As someone relatively new to photography, I see the similarity with street photography, i.e. the shots of a particularly interesting subject versus those that capture the spirit or vibe of a town. Both are nice to shoot and view and can work together well in a project

[@grahamegannon9708]

I like your thought process while composing and framing up your shot which I will take on board the next time I am out in the forest, or any location really, with my camera. Thanks for the tips.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Hi Grahame thanks a lot for the comment and I’m really glad you got some value from this video! Cheers

[@FakeNews_Ignored]

🙋 Loved your woodland photo. Very nice. 👍👍👍👍

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thank you very much!

[@paulk329]

Great vlog absolutely loving these 👍

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Glad you like them Paul thanks a million mate!

[@gordonmiller4439]

Your work is never rubbish, Henry! Love the new woodland images!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks Gordon, appreciate the comment

[@perjensen6396]

Great images and I liked the video because I also like the woodland but have big problems to find the right images so I hope I can learn something from your videos.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks very much Per, really glad you enjoyed

[@petermcguire3070]

Great images Henry, thanks again for interesting woodland vlog.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot Peter, glad you enjoyed it mate

[@barrynoon1812]

I certainly struggle with woodland photography so it made a refreshing change to listen to your self appraisal. Enjoying the journey one step at a time.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot as always Barry, glad you're enjoying

[@thommyandersen1522]

Lovely images and inspiring as usual to hear your thinking about woodland photography. It's hard to show what your four senses experience in a photo. Thanks for sharing!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Many thanks Thommy! Really appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment and cheers for watching

[@BrianNorthmorePhotography]

Great idea, sharing a new approach, I look forward to seeing more.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks for watching Brian, much appreciated!

[@andrewmckinney3053]

An interesting approach ... quite insighful. Thanks!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot for watching Andrew

[@stephenburden25]

Great vlog Henry, 2 cracking images the colours shapes and the sheer beauty of the woodland awesome👍👍

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thank you very much Stephen

[@tomgriffinphotographyakiwi6150]

Well done Henry. Nice to see you get the 'click' moment. Your woodland images on this far superior to the previous vlog. Your honesty to yourself regarding your Photography is so refreshing. I've stopped following a lot of vloggers lately, but still look forward to yours. I've followed you since NZ, loved following your journey.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks Thomas, much appreciate. Hopefully further improvements can be made!!

[@g0ora]

Thanks for sharing your thought process Henry, good work.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching

[@arielalejandrogarma3672]

Fantastic. Photos congratulations I like so much

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thank you very much Ariel

[@donaldgould1293]

Thanks Henry, lovely images capture the atmosphere. I found it very helpful as I do a lot of this sort of thing in nearby bushland in Australia. The big difference of course is the light and the drier different vegetation over here. The same though as regards concept and composition etc. It has given me food for thought.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot for the comment Donald. Something tells me it would be a lot more cluttered in your woodland areas, but like you say it’s the same concept with regards to composition

[@donaldgould1293]

@@HenryTurnerphoto Yes it is more cluttered in most bushland areas. Often almost impenetrable with a lot of smaller scrubby plants.

[@Ianovitch63]

I do prefer that first image from this video over those from the last video. It does give a feel for the woodland you’re in and the greens are just lush. Lovely video - thanks for talking us through another experience.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers Ian - much appreciated

[@ClintonFerrara]

Good work. Your search for simplicity in the chaos of a forest is what I call looking for a forest “room”. I’m sure you know what I mean.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Yep exactly - it's the sort of approach I want to move away from a little. Thanks so much for the comment Clinton

[@michelslangen6633]

Realy solid images and I love the new approach. Sometimes you run into youtube video's that gives you a lot of food for thoughts and this video is really one of them. Gets me rethinking my processes as well. Many thanks for that!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

I appreciate that Michel!

[@kwchalky02]

Another interesting and entertaining video Henry. 👍 I really liked your first photo. 📷👋 The second one ... I like the tree on the left, but the right hand side seems lacking something to me (or maybe the opposite ... too much!) It just seems too cluttered and haphazard! But then that is what a forrest is like, so I guess you have captured what you wanted! 🙂 Your three #10mileradiusht pics were all great. I have viewed a lot of wonderful shots by following that hashtag, so hopefully that will continue and you will keep featuring it in your videos. Thanks again. 😊

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much Kenny, I’m inclined to agree regarding the second photo

[@colinfreear4749]

Thanks Henry appreciate the effort you put in during these times, constantly learning through vlogs like yours. Woodland is my favourite genre but its never easy.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers Colin, yes definitely not easy but an enjoyable challenge all the same

[@DanKleinow]

I've just started to get interested in woodland photography. I've always found it a bit intimidating. Thanks for giving me some new ideas to think about. I enjoyed your perspective.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Great to hear!

[@Paul-vy1ev]

Hi,Henry thought this video was brilliant and I think your new approach works perfectly. The two images you took were fantastic and were superior to the ones you took in your last video. I look forward to seeing your future images as you develop your new approach to woodland photography.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much Paul, really appreciate the comment!!

[@GeorgiPavlovski]

Great images, the first one is easily among the best five I have seen on this channel - there's something about it. Thank you.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much Georgi

[@ianhill9309]

Excellent video again Henry, being doing my local woodland /forest. Getting easier the more I go at it. Using shadow and light helps a lot. Keep your project going. Look forward to the next one.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a million Ian and yes, I definitely agree regarding the use of shadow and light

[@enriquedcorral]

really loved this video on woodland, definitely going to take this inspiration in my next hike in the dutch forests near me.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much and I'm really glad you enjoyed it!

[@colliegardenmaintenance729]

Yes. Definitely like this week's shots more than previous ones. Made me realize that the "Subject" van just be the light or the atmosphere of the place. I shall work on that one next time I am out. Cheers Henry.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot. Yeah it's nice to imagine that the subject can actually be a lot more vague

[@markedfortime]

I think I understand exactly what you're describing. I walk our dogs in a local park that looks very much like your woodlands. The past several times I've walked our dogs I've been desperately trying to find a composition that would capture the magnitude of what I experience when I'm walking our dogs. I did very much like your last two photos. Anxious to see how you figure this out so I may figure it out as well.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot, and yes 'experience' is a great word to use. That's really what it feels like when you're there. Thanks again for taking the time to leave a comment - much appreciated

[@kabilk01]

As the title read it was indeed a new approach, really great photos and wonderful vlog.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks Kabil, Appreciate the comment!

[@ericesen7057]

Stunnig photos from seemingly blended environment. Yeah, one must have a pretty good set of eyes to get a decent composition in this type of surroundings. Stunnig photos, both of them! Keep on cracking, mate!

[@bobbowring1702]

I love woodland photography and I must try and do more when I am able to get out.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers for the comment Bob, yes definitely get out and enjoy it mate 👍🏼

[@mikeswoods]

Hi Henry, great video and I agree, your image at 8.45 is as you would say, "Top Draw". I think that image really captures a woodland scene. Keep up the good work 👌📸

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much Mike!!

[@th3edge744]

I see your reasoning for the new approach, i am a total amateur at photography and i chose to go for what makes me happy which is woodland photography. I tend to at the moment to look for something that pleases my eye and work from there, at the beginning i was trying to hard to find something. i am restricted as i only have 2 lenses which are a 10 - 18 mm wide and a 50mm prime, but it's a challenge . I follow you and ND for inspiration and guides, i have learnt a lot in the process. Like on one of my other replies it's a journey and development of ones self, all great artists went through the same processes.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks very much. I agree completely re: it's a journey

[@deathstarHQ]

cracking images, Woodland isn't the easiest subject to photograph, especially as the best compositions are never the obvious ones, and you nailed it. It's a great feeling when something just clicks, it's that aha, moment of realization that allows you to see order within the chaos! Great Job!!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot. I agree, the best compositions aren't the obvious ones - but like you say it feels all the more better when you do find something decent! Thanks again for the comment

[@MarkKerton]

Lovely images Henry. Captures the essence of this wood perfectly. Taking inspiration from your woodland work at the moment. I’m a sports photographer by trade but as there’s zero sport right now, am keeping my eye in with woodland and landscapes. Appreciate the work that goes into your content, top job, great channel👍🏻

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks very much Mark, glad I've inspired you

[@MarkKerton]

You sure have Henry. I’m just back from a session in the New Forest and working on the images and video now. Thanks again👍🏻

[@tHaH4x0r]

Great images as always. Woodland photography is definitely the hardest kind of landscape photography. The chaos and business of a frame make it very, very hard to get a good composition without aids like fog. This is also what draws me into it, the challenge of finding good compositions in this chaos (with that exploring what makes good compositions, instead of just following rules) and capturing the essence of the forest. I also like how there's so much variation in forests, and even on different days it can be dramatically different.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Love your comment there, really sums up the uniqueness to woodland photography - thanks a lot

[@lisabradley9288]

Love the woodland photos Henry, keep up the good work! 🙂

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Glad you like them! Thanks Lisa

[@ItsJonnyKeeley]

Thanks for mentioning my photo, mate. Great video as always and great shots.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Nice one Jonny, thanks for getting involved and cheers for watching mate

[@searam1]

I love those photos, especially the first one with the rocks!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot Sean, that was my personal favourite

[@hubahp6714]

beautiful photos👌

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much

[@nigelcoombes7076]

Hello Henry, enjoyed the vlog and images ..... great concept and thoughts.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot Nigel, cheers for watching and really glad you enjoyed it!

[@Chris391971]

I went for a walk around Warton Crag today. Could be quite a good sunrise photo at the top looking east towards Ingleborough with the crag and the village in the foreground

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers Chris, I keep meaning to get up there

[@petecundle5071]

Thumbs up on the vlog. I like many see images in woodland that in my head could possibly make a good image until I see it on screen. Unlike waterfalls and big vista's which give an idea of the location, woodland photography is a whole different animal. My personal problem shooting in woodland is trying to capture the true essence of a wood and what makes the location beautiful when I'm there. The things you can't include in a photo is the smells, the sounds and the sense of serenity.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks Pete, couldn't agree more. I feel like there're a lot more elements to get into that image

[@ellyelzinga01]

That first image is beautiful!! Love the second image too, also very beautiful, but I have to say that the first one is my favorite! 😊

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks as always Elly :D

[@janetturner7489]

A sense of exploring comes to mind with me. The first image I liked, the second the curved branch well I felt like going to chop it off! What I like about woodland is honing in on tree roots for example or in on moss. So what you've done today is quite a challenge for me. Let's see what I can come up with in the future so thanks Henry. Have a good week!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much Janet

[@markjacksonphotos]

Nice one Henry your photo's were well worth it. We were also woodland walking yesterday evening, not sure mine will be anywhere near as pleasing as yours though.👍

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot Mark, nice to be out just walking in the woodland regardless of the photography!

[@wildaustraliaphotography-m2099]

Brilliant, ive never been able to capture a truly satisfyingly good image in the Top Ends lush tropical rainforests but im about to head home for my two week break (i work on a mine site 14 on 14 off) and im definately going to try this method. Loving your recent vlogs mate.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much for taking the time to leave a comment Michael - really glad you enjoyed the video and good luck in your rainforests

[@kertpilman]

The one with the rocks is bosh. Exactly what I also try to capture in the woods... the feeling of when you are there, amongst the green, just taking in the second hand sunlight :)

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much Kert. Love the term 'second hand sunlight'

[@pauldowney7130]

Thoroughly enjoying this woodland journey you’ve started, Henry. You’ve helped “another nickel to drop” regarding what to be looking for in the typical chaos associated with woodland photography. My favourite was the first photograph with the boulders and gorgeous vines on the trees which struck me as a great example of the point you were trying to capture regarding emotional storytelling. Thanks mate - keep ‘em coming! 👍

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers Paul, much appreciated and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. Great point about the vines

[@cheriechino]

I like the composition of the first image and i get what you mention as the elements within however i feel as if the time of exposure the light has taken away foreground interest.

[@jillbaxter4533]

Oh yes! What a difference from the last video. The last video photos I was a bit meh about. In fact I said to myself that's the sort of woodland scene I take photos of! This video is a game changer! Love the first photo. It says something and is visually different. Keep at it lad you're definitely onto something 😀

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much Jill, really appreciate your insight!

[@robstammers7149]

I too love woodland photography, watching this video got me thinking about the holistic nature of the woodland experience. Half way through the video, I began to think that our images should do more than just capture the scene. Could our images some how capture the sound of the breeze the bird song, the rustle of the leaves. Just what are we trying to capture in that brief moment the shutter opens and closes? Our emotions and thoughts are part of our journey into recording the scene, you express these elements very well. But can we do more, I'm not sure...

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Brilliant comment Rob, there's so much to think about in the woods but I absolutely love it

[@davidstarkey3002]

Hi , Henry . You asked opinion . I don't really like saying what i think of another photographers images as i try to look at them through their eyes as they chose the scene. Plus i can't give a qualified opinion, however as you asked image 1 & 2 for me to green , which for me flattened the image. If i'd edited them i'd have darkened the tree's in the back ground just a bit and to the side maybe just to give depth. Also you need to add a ladder to your kit bag . It made an interesting vlog though. Nice one.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot David, I appreciate your insight to the images, much appreciated and something to think about! Cheers for watching

[@kimgrantphotography]

Great images - I especially love the second one! I find woodland near impossible - I need a lot more practice so hat's off to you for getting these cracking images 🙂

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thank you so much, Kim 😀

[@SouthernSue1]

Love your tutorials. What tripod do you use?

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot! My tripod is this one: geni.us/ijYb

[@SouthernSue1]

@@HenryTurnerphoto Thank you so much but I saw it was a Manfrotto in another video. However, I'm also very interested in your quick release ball head. Pretty cool how it locks in so fast!

[@zaneclone]

How interesting you choose to "re-visit" those shots taken on the last video. I have to say that when you shot the tree image- my thought's were "nice"- but I wish you'd taken it in landscape format- fairly wide... so the dead tree becomes just part of the living woodland.... a cycle of life of you like. I do like how you analyze your work after- not afraid to say when you're not entirely satisfied with it... Love the 2nd shot today.... nice soft light... not too much contrast :)

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks very much Simon, much appreciated!

[@CuriosityO]

Keep going Henners dom :P new zealands looks so lush!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers mate!!

[@paulstone3991]

The rocks etc image looks great. As there were one or two quite bright areas of light I was surprised to hear that you used f4.

[@Westmoreland348]

Loved it! You will probably only five minutes from where we live and there is so much potential in these woods for years to come! Deepdale near yealand would make a good video , it is a sinister and dramatic place.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers Simon. I actually had a little scout around Deepdale Wood today, what a wonderful spot and very, very sinister indeed, loved it there! Thanks for the recommendation, always welcomed

[@Westmoreland348]

Excellent, look forward to seeing a film from there. I found another eerie clearing with huge limestone boulders and pines more like Majorca than Yealand. About 20 minutes from there,I’ll send a grid ref. Trowbarrow quarry very interesting too, like a small American canyon. Keep up the good work, you’re the first filmmaker to explore the aonb properly!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Yeah send me on IG mate that would be ace. Thanks again Simon

[@Westmoreland348]

thanks Henry. I’ll send a snap of it tomorrow. Excuse for a walk! Struggled to find it on satellite so If you like it I can send instructions. Best wishes Simon

[@srinivaasansundar7406]

i see you hitting shutter button with a delay if i am not wrong, in this kind of setup you can make use of WMU app of nikon to act as a remote trigger to dslr from your fone, also see the live view feed in your fone, at the ease of sitting down and trigger shutter will be much easier to you i guess, let me know if it helps.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks so much for the tip, I do personally quite like using the shutter delay but hopefully this could help out others. Thanks again and cheers for taking the time to leave a comment

[@srinivaasansundar7406]

@@HenryTurnerphoto well using shutter button you can definitely conserve a lot of battery when compared to using app

[@thewildsilence4097]

excellent video as usual H - how's the watch doing?? - the light on the rocks was lovely!

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks very much. The watch is amazing! Still haven't put it through too much yet though. Cheers for taking the time t leave a comment and I'm glad you enjoyed

[@aspireroaming]

I really liked the first image Henry , tho it is different what you normally shoot (well what you normally focus on) it definitely doesnt show, I feel the composition worked, so good job

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a million Lucas - appreciate the words

[@ianpalmer186]

Nice images Henry. I wish there were limestone rocks where I live as they definitely give the woodland more character 👏👏

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers Ian, yes they really are beautiful and worth getting into the images!

[@MrMB2652]

I think the name of the plant you were not sure about is Dog’s mercury (Mercurialis perennis), the low leafy stuff carpeting the floor. Hope this helps. Cheers Marshall

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks for that Marshall. Yep I did some research afterwards and found that out! Cheers for watching

[@fernandopeci7102]

For me it's difficult to get some order in the chaos of a woodland full of small, medium and large, green, yellowish, brown leaves, logs, rocks, and everything else. Very nice photos, definitely you have an eye for woodland compositions.👌

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a million Fernando

[@casperghst42]

Woodlands, I think, is a photographers nightmare. No matter what you do, there is always something either not enough, or too much, and you have to find a way to weigh these differences to make a photo. I like your thoughts, and photos.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot Casper - yes it's tough in there but I adore the challenge of it all

[@hilarylee5332]

I find woodland photography the hardest of all to exclude clutter and to create order, simply because there's always so much going on. As for the emotion of any image, you have to ask yourself: is this image for me or to please someone else? Only you were there so only you had that experience, therefore the image will feel different for you than it will for anyone else.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers for the comment Hilary and great points

[@tegser]

Hi Henry..I find the top left corner in the second image is distracting but overall two calming images 👍🏼

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Hello Terry, thanks a lot I appreciate your insight into the second image, helps me out. Thanks a lot for watching

[@paulstone3991]

I am surprised that you left the thin really bright tree trunk coming down for the bottom left third interesection. It takes the eye & I then cannot take my eye off it.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Cheers Paul, something to think about

[@nighthawkawandrewwilkinson37]

got a location for you that you will love , go to Silverdale past train station to moss lane just over the bridge on right there is a lovely place where I use to lay as a kid

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot for that I'll check it out

[@roberthennessey128]

Standing on that rock, I’d kill myself at my age ha....do you ever use a remote clicker😬....thanks for sharing, love the captures.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

😂 yes it was a bit dodgy!! Info use it mate but only for long exposures

[@AdrenalinePitStop]

Firstly can I just say a HUGE thank you for featuring My photo of (Caerphilly Castle) I'm really please you liked it. Caerphilly well pronounced too :) Can I also thank you for keeping your content going though these tough times we have all been going through, its been great watching your video's its really helped to switch off, relax and forget whats going on. Keep up the great work Thanks again you've made my day.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Nice one Jon, a cracking image. Really appreciate your support.

[@lensman5762]

I hope you find what you are looking for but FWIW I liked the shots. There is a certain mystery in the second one.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot, much appreciated

[@stevemarson9665]

Woodland it really quite simple .... it's all about light and shapes ... and they are either there... and obvious ... or they aren't and you are flogging a dead horse. I frequent several woodlands and having tramped all over it there are half a dozen good compositions and all are very light dependent. Everything else is just a load of trees and could really be anywhere, anytime. Simon Baxter returns to the same spots repeatedly over years till he gets the right conditions. When you get the right combination you will know immediately..... trying to 'simplify or embrace the chaos' is not going to help much. I shoot during the day, often in harsh light and this often helps bring out areas of interest. I think the traditional advice of 'flat light' is misleading. Keep banging away ..... sometime it will all click and come together. Enthusiasm and persistence will always win out.

[@HenryTurnerphoto]

Thanks a lot for taking the time to comment Steve, great summary.

[@evertking1]

Check out. The channel "on landscape"

[@nighthawkawandrewwilkinson37]

try taking the photo from a animals pov down low