Wooting 80HE Sound Test: PCR ABS vs Zinc Alloy

[@Wooting]

For those commenting on my dirty earpads on previous video's. Look at them now! I fixed it. 😭 now you will never notice them being dirty as they are black, hehehehe.

[@donald5983]

Fun fact, the black pads are actually totally different soundwise compared to the standard EDT-990V grey pads. They make the dt 990s sound a lot warmer and darker, which can be seen on frequency response measurements. Besides adding an overly amount of midtone warmth, they also add a 4kHz cut, which will result in a more gaggy kind of sound. Proper ear pads are a HUGE part of why the dt 990s sound as good as they do, at first the headphones will sound overly bright and very sibilant due to big 6kHz and 8kHz peaks. After a while though those peaks smooth out significantly due to pads flattening out a bit and the amount of bass increases. This results in an impressively smooth frequency response and changing the pads out for different ones will color the sound a LOT and add big defects like chewed up treble and the 4kHz cut. I would definitely recommend picking up some original EDT-990V grey pads for the 990s (exactly the EDT-990V model, there are different pads for the 770 and 880 models that look the same but are different), this will make them sound more balanced and better overall. PS. Keep up the great work, I'm really enjoying my 60HE. I myself own a pair of dt 990s and this whole comment came out of a place of passion :)

[@Seizuqi]

@@donald5983 Well damn, i just learnt something new lol, u a teacher or something?

[@donald5983]

@@Seizuqi Just a guy who spent way too much time trying to find the best audio gear possible :P

[@Cemroz]

@@donald5983 And the verdict is DT 990? Have you tried Sennheiser or any other Beyerdynamic products? Just curious as they have higher and lower end as well. I need the great comfortability, good sound profile with open back but indecisive. The prices differ a lot and I am not an audiophile so don’t know which ones require amp/dac etc.

[@donald5983]

@@Cemroz The dt 990 pro 250 ohm with silver pads (not the edition version) were indeed the best out of any headphones that I've seen. Other beyer headphones usually come with a massive 4kHz cut and an 8kHz peak in the treble, both of which don't go away over time. Sennheiser's headphones usually cut out all of the bass and sub bass, roll off the treble completely and have a 5-6kHz depending on the model, even their HD800s have a 6kHz peak and a massive 8-9kHz treble cut that reaps out all of the detail. The price doesn't seem to matter much in the headphone/IEM world, one company makes a single good piece of equipment by accident and then just makes crap afterwards. As for comfort the dt 990s are pretty superb due the spacious velour pads and comfy headband. I will say if you're planning on getting a pair, they will have a 6kHz and 8kHz peak out of the box but after some time the ear pads compress a bit and the peaks smooth out. You are left with an extreamly smooth frequency response and a balanced sound (a bass boost and a treble boost). So far the only thing that could rival the smoothness of treble on the 990s were the Simgot EM6L but those are IEMs and not headphones so if you're looking at over ears there's nothing else out there.

[@Necondus]

excellent comparison, especially the section switching directly between the keyboards for the same sets of keys

[@Royaltea_Citizen]

Can’t wait for my PCR Ghost, takes me back to the Gameboy days❤

[@lu7459]

SAAME, eventho I have to build it on my own

[@Lonestar_GER]

Same bro. Hoping to pair it with pulsar transparent black x2 Will be a banger combination

[@BishieBishie]

Always gone with metal cases, but I built a keboard with a clear blue case a few years back, and I loved the thocc, seems the same case here on top of that nostalgic look, cant wait to get mine either.

[@lu7459]

@@BishieBishie and the New Sound comparison Video hyped me even more!!!

[@deepeshbhardwaj2003]

Ordered the black zinc alloy. Loved the sound, excited af to receive it in November.

[@aggcu]

wait what? november?!?

[@jeisimanalo]

@@aggcu and looking at the way it's going, maybe you'll get it next year lmao

[@aggcu]

@@jeisimanalo broooo... does it matter if i pre order it now or in like a month

[@TheCoolGamerrx]

@@aggcu what do you mean? as in like receiving it faster if you order it now? Yeah probably.. first batch will be sent around Sept-Oct I think. Second is the November timeline I guess

[@aggcu]

@@TheCoolGamerrx oh

[@drScorp1on]

Finally the comparison a lot of us were waiting for. 🎉🎉 I would say the PCR sounds a bit "drier" (thockier if you want) and the zinc has maybe the tiniest bit of ping to it, which I'm not a fan of. Still, can't wait to finally receive my black zinc alloy.

[@ssSiPiXxx]

Perfecto para mine ABS!🎉

[@QuotedRut]

Im adding tape mod, which should help

[@TheRealRivulet]

Zinc keyboard is the best to use as a defensive weapon when robbers break in while your gaming

[@Febard]

😂true

[@FrosstKatt]

you're*

[@OMITYARI]

I already ordered the Ghost and i’m so glad i did, i personally think it sounded sooo much softer and thoccy

[@ProgidyKid]

This sealed the deal! Just preordered the PCR Ghost.

[@iRumy3]

Both sound good. Ordered zinc because I want the weight. ❤

[@user-j9ki7r]

plastic one sounds more thocky zinc is more clacky

[@ssSiPiXxx]

PCB soundtrack Better🎉

[@fnvfanMSPR]

The zinc one sounds a little bit brighter and that's it

[@Dirty_Hobo]

Now this guy keyboards.

[@Iam....--..]

No? The overall pitch is the same but the way the sound “ends” is more muted on the plastic than it is on the Zinc making it come across as thockier over the mic

[@thames21]

@@Iam....--.. I'd say the plastic resonates more with lower frequencies whereas the metal resonates more with higher frequencies resulting in a different tone. The pitch may be the same yes, but isn't thock and clack more about tone, not so much about pitch? Let me say I'm not trying to say you are wrong, I'm no expert and if anything this is one big matter of opinion anyways.

[@existentialrap521]

Plastic one sounds better to me tbh. That THOCC

[@TJN921]

PCR ABS in black ordered! Thank you for this video!! 😁

[@DaBomber60]

Can we get the trumpet sounds from the start to come out of the keyboard?

[@DctrGizmo]

I ordered the 80HE in Black PCR and I really like the sound from it!

[@m00tes]

Cant wait for the Zinc Alloy with the Jade switches.

[@KiNGxLua]

I was thinking about this today & you guys release a vid, perfect timing. I think I’ll stick with my PCR Ghost pre order. Thanks

[@noojbrowncow]

Honestly they both sound great! I was all nervous thinking I'd need custom switches, but stock sounds absolutely great!!! Now all I need them to do is do the Optimum collab case in the Wooting80HE instead :)

[@hextorus]

gahdayum was not expecting for the plastic one to sound so thocky

[@윈윈-e5n]

I think the zinc alloy housing sounds better to me. That's why I ordered the zinc alloy. I hope October comes soon.

[@Allstarjedi]

Man as much as i wanted the Zinc casing, the 90s baby in me couldn't turn down the "Ghost" option 😂

[@allanmoore3420]

Ordered mine, I can't wait :)

[@Rig]

Plastic sound really good

[@Leafays]

Great video however I have one more question!! In your previous video titled "Wooting 80HE - Zinc Alloy cases, Travel Case & Keycaps", you went over all the aluminum boards which was very nice but we never got to see the Frost / Ghost PCR case. Thankfully in this video we saw the Ghost PCR variant but I think the community would like to see all variants of the fully finished board since the video I was referencing was about 2-3 months old so I'm not sure if you guys had finalized everything but yeah. Would love to see the frost board specifically as well as maybe another sound test with lubed stabilizers / switches as well on the PCR / aluminum. Thanks so much !

[@knislappen]

I feel you man

[@seyeRFunnnnn]

Bro, like, that mousepad stole the show. Where did you get it? I need it.

[@Vainsz]

PCR ABS sound >>>

[@TheCoolGamerrx]

hopefully you do some vids with it :)))

[@boiialston4543]

YO WUDDUP VAINSZ ! LOVE YA BUDDY ! AMAZING VIDEOS ! ❤

[@genocidehero9687]

Literally who

[@Ico938]

Would love to see some different wooting keycaps on the raw case in a future video!

[@ZentiFPS]

Might have to buy both to get the best of both worlds

[@deananderson8186]

Yeah i bought the 2 cases in this video lol

[@NMarling]

or buy one for my birthday ;)

[@joeshmoe9233]

Where do you get that beautiful mouse pad?????

[@twinty3326]

I just purchased a 60HE Plus and I'm waiting for it to come. I do however also think I'm going to pre order the 80 because I like the arow keys and 80 percent keyboards a bit more. Either way tho, I think I'll be happy to have both!

[@Tapirrr]

Waiting for the comparison with the jade switches!!

[@fusion1203]

Is there a reason why the case is proprietary and not swappable with and case other then wooting official

[@Wooting]

There are cases popping up where you can swap the 80HE into, KBDfans with the GT80 is one for instance. ^Sander

[@RoyzaGaming]

I can’t wait for my ocr ghost, as I had the clear game boy back in the day ❤

[@liefeksil]

what is the thickness of the pcb for third party stabilizers?

[@Zvilll]

can we see the frost case in a full build ?

[@dimwillow7113]

i was first a thocky lover like PCR case gives you then i got my keychron alu case and now i love the more clacky sound you get out of it.. so i definitely keep my zinc alloy order.. I love the low profile, will be absolute gaming monster with cherry profile keycaps..

[@SoulRollerFIN]

PCR sounds warmer and deeper = better IMO. Can't wait for the package I ordered. Seems like the perfect kb. Hopefully wife will understand the purchase. :D

[@TuanTX]

Great stock test Sanders! Personally I think Zinc sounds better just due to the material making the board sound a bit brighter but overall for all the future 80HE owners that want that thock (totally not like 80% of the people here) I think both will enjoy the sound of either one. Hope you enjoy future 80HE owners!

[@Revivalheb]

placed my order for the abs one few minutes ago :)))

[@PAIN-ot4cj]

damn these sound freaking good

[@MrPoottoot]

The outer keys like the shift and space bar seems light and loose, idk if that would feel good when gaming. Would I accidently start running with shift if i'm resting my pinky on it?

[@Wooting]

You shouldn't have any issues with it. If you are worried about this, you could get heavier springs for your switch so you don't accidently press anything.

[@GraymaneGaming]

PCR sounds better for me tbh. As someone who records videos for youtube I like the deeper quieter thock on the PCR.

[@HEXZ0R-]

cant wait to be able to afford one !

[@Pure_pokemon]

can you add so that you can add wooting restore devices i ascidently disconeted mine before i new how to faktory reset

[@Klinical69420]

Now that I hear it I wished I went fro the pcr over the zinc; but I wanted the nice heavy metal i'm use to. Thats ok though. It will still be 500% better than my hyperx alloy.

[@Darciou5]

Yes, yes... Very nice... But where can I find that deskmat?

[@vincentw9610]

How did you matched the same sound of black, white and the raw?

[@qazserNOS]

I wonder how O-rings on keycaps will change the sound.

[@andrewkailhofer4802]

The rest of them sound good but that space bar on the plastic one makes baby Jesus cry. It sounds fixable though.

[@rawrj]

Can we get a video on what makes the new switches V2 as well? I think you guys may have discussed this a little but I'm hoping to get a straight up comparison video!

[@Wooting]

Tighter tolerances, for a cleaner sound without any chattering. And more lube. I will do a Lekker V1 vs V2 video on a 60HE after all the 80HE video's that are still planned to showcase how that sounds.

[@mesmariam9131]

@@Wooting are you guys planning on dropping a wooting 60he+ V2 soon? if not i was going to order the 80he but i think i prefer the smaller board

[@lulkaku]

Glad I went with PCR.

[@3dprintedlogic161]

can you please do a comparison with jade switches with and without O-rings ? I am sure many others are curious how it would sound without bottoming out.

[@TLPSh0ckW4ve]

60He is a little bit to small but I only need 1000hz is it possible to change the 80He?

[@The_Real_Goodboy_Link]

Next vid needs to be a taste test comparison for the switch lubes pls

[@ivohage]

Were these V2 switches ever in other keyboards before or are these the first? They sound WAY better than a 60HE I think. As if there is less rattle. Will there be less stem rattle/play on the V2's? (Like in Gateron Magnetic Orange switches. Maybe even with double-rail?) Also the stabilizers sound A LOT better. I like the Zinc-Alloy sound, even though I am a BIG fan usually of the deeper sound. The PCR ABS one sounds good! Will maybe go for that one. Also, do you think in the future you will try for a lightning speed type of wireless connection and maybe even make it into an upgrade module to be used by all keyboards? I think it should be doable. I would LOVE wireless. 8kHz should be doable, but 1kHz DEFINITELY. But this is just my electrical engineering mind going apeshit on the possibilities xD. Aaaaaaaand. Will there be a separate numpad? Especially when going wireless?

[@Effos]

I never really understood why people need a numpad, you already have numbers on your keyboard

[@ivohage]

@@Effos try to work with excel or numbers (calculations) otherwise A LOT. As in every day, most of the day. It’s way faster and easier. Also makes for an insane big menu in CS2 and for a nice button box in sim racing.

[@BakedSnowman69]

Where can I go to get the desk mat you have??

[@leoclacks]

Also got the geons coming my way :D great soundtest! The sound improved a lot from the 60he :) (80he dishwasher test soon? 👀)

[@Spectrulight]

What geons

[@leoclacks]

@@Spectrulight raw he

[@JDubz303]

Any clue what kind of custom cases we can use for 80HE yet?

[@Wooting]

As of now, you can only use our own cases. But we will share design files publicly, so case makers can make a version on it more easily.

[@asoshkin]

Sound good. Now I can put headphones on to do some gaming.

[@MozzMozz-u6f]

What about the sound comparison from the zink alloy and plastic with jade gatereon switches?

[@PJTheCurryGod]

should i get the jades or the lekkers on a PCR

[@Wooting]

I will have a sound test this week, so stay tuned for that if you can wait a little bit! ^^

[@jotsu4491]

does this have a Polycarbonate plate?

[@Pendif]

does anyone else see the pcr abs and think it looks cheap then go well to performance is incredible (i don't have any wooting keyboard yet

[@DavidSk2683]

Will you guys ever bring the raw zinc alloy pre assembled?

[@Wooting]

Depends on popularity really. For now we sell it separate to see how popular the case will be over time.

[@ninjakiller1458]

Thank you for switching out your headphone cushion

[@thames21]

Got annoyed by my gmmk pro again and I kept seeing wooting videos. I just ordered the module and ghost case, going to put in everglide sticky rice switches. Hope this will be the board that when it breaks (and I hope it takes a while) I will buy another one.

[@Wooting]

Should last you quite a while, and might it break, you have a 4 year warranty. So you'll be good! :D One note, the Everglide sticky rice switches are a bit inconsistent with current boards. So keep that in mind. Check our discord out in the #keyboard_modding for more info on this. :) Appreciate you buying our board!

[@thames21]

@@Wooting Ah, yeah I heard of this but I'm taking the gamble. Heard a lot of other people saying they had no issues so I hope this goes for me as well. Think I'll be fine even if some work not as well, I'll just make sure to not have those switches anywhere close to my WASD-keys!

[@tractor6619]

Dude I bought the 60HE, I would have bought this one if I knew it will be available :(

[@CharcharoExplorer]

Hmm where is the Wooting Lekker Pro Switch :) ?

[@XIIX09]

ghost vs black which is better?

[@xugo91]

i can't make the difference, which is more silent ?

[@sunefrodi]

The plastic one sounds better damn! I ordered the zinc one =)

[@maciejpajkowski3333]

Hi Wooting, I was planning to buy your new 80he keyboard and I have a question. If I buy module, switches, case and keycaps from your site will it comes with all of the foams etc. to silence the keyboard and will it sound the same? Basically I just need to mount it all by myself and I will get keyboard that looks and sounds just like on your site and on this video?

[@Kurzei]

PCR wins for me hands down. A break mod might help the zinc but as is there is just too much ping for me

[@Aspero86]

Zinc Alloy is the winner for me 😄

[@blackarrow7548]

Hello wooting. I would be cratefull if you respond to my Support Ticket. I have a issue with the keyboard what i purchased almost 2 weeks ago. I created the support ticket at 8.08 and still not a answer

[@MOISTxPANDAx]

Why not use the jades

[@tyrosgames319]

Is there a big quality/durability difference between PCR ABS vs Zinc alloy ?

[@Wooting]

Zinc Alloy will be sturdier and a bit easier to open up as you don't deal with clips like the PCR ABS one. But the cases are coated and thus deep scratches will be more noticeable on the zinc alloy versions. So you should always be careful handling it. :) Also Zinc Alloy is a hefty boy, so if you travel a lot with your keyboard, it might not be the best option.

[@Romaruru]

@@Wooting With which case is it less felt that the key resonates and creates small virations

[@leisure9866]

is there a keyboard something similiar to wooting with hall effect but wireless?

[@vAmmonite]

hall effect and wireless dont really go together

[@Vaznazza]

Yes, the closest one is the keychron q1 he. I was going to get that over this specifically for the wireless but decided to get the 80he as its got 8khz polling so less latency. But if wireless is important to you it's a no-brainer.

[@FateShape]

That's so odd. The video where you introduced the zinc case sounded way thoccier than ABS. Was planning to buy the zinc just for the sound but might reconsider now..

[@espen7367]

Why the led bar and not a small oled screen like the apex pro has?

[@Spectrulight]

You dont understand how useless both are lol

[@espen7367]

@@Spectrulight I do 100% neither is necessary, my question is simply, why create something new that is already done better with a screen. For such an expensive keyboard why the very simple and useless led-bar?

[@Spectrulight]

@@espen7367 there's a bunch of useless things keyboard companies add. Especially the screens, you would use it once and never think of it again. Like drunkdeer with their a75 pro, they labeled it as aluminum, but only a little strip of it is actually aluminum. It's super useless, just a gimmick to make people buy it.

[@Spectrulight]

I'm using this video to fall asleep tonight

[@Haux49]

Okay I have to change my order now …

[@eyang7]

Going for end game keyboard. Zinc Alloy!!!! lol 😁

[@smokey9522]

Will the PCR Ghost be limited edition?

[@Wooting]

No, it will remain on the shop as long as there is demand. Might demand drop to an absolute low, only then we might phase it out.

[@takutolovex]

Kudos to this company for using KZbin right and knowing their customer base (gamers and keeb geeks). Too sad to see/hear that the sound could be better for this price. It sucks that most of us are only buying Wooting boards for the software while there are boards at half price that sound 5x better

[@ЕгорПалюченко]

Hi I ordered a keyboard and caps for it on your website. My order is pending and it says that all the goods in the order are in the warehouse ready to receive your order confirm your delivery address through Wooting hub to send your order for fulfillment I pester down at my address here is my address confirm it I don’t understand that there is no confirm button please help me

[@Wooting]

Make sure to reach out to [e-mail] for support on this. After a week I believe of not receiving a confirmed address, it automatically ships it to the address that has been setup.

[@DarrenHernandez-dn2fk]

Where are the jades?

[@Noireinself]

I will try to change my order from zinc alloy to PCR - like the sound more.

[@ernestogf7294]

Me too i will need to cancel

[@Noireinself]

@@ernestogf7294 I don't think you need to cancel - I heard wooting support is good and they will change the order - however they can take some time to reply since they have a lot of requests. I let you know if they will change the order or if cancellation is required one I receive an answer.

[@Mojo_DK]

Can you please make an ortholinear wireless split ergonomic (40 % or 60 % or something similar) nice looking low profile wooting gaming keyboard pleeeeeaaasseee 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Mojo_DK]

Maybe something like the corne-chocolate, but with a bit of 3D curvature. Possibly you can make it even better. If it is easy to mod, that would be nice too. I want it to be made out of metal, with an adjustable angle and non labelled keys. Don't make it too thick. Just make the perfect keyboard, please 🙇🙇🙇. That would be amazing. Nobody offers a keyboard that fulfils my needs. I know finding one that ticks all the boxes is difficult, but non come even close.

[@instaq]

What Deskmat are you using there?

[@captain_grochat_fin]

o m g - I love it.

[@sokkejimbo]

Where's my "Hard and quick press of spacebar+c" for those litty ass superglides!?

[@Shhhh-hh6ns]

PCR sounds better imo. Thank you god I picked the cheaper option 🙏

[@yhiz4757]

Honestly there needs to be more lube on the stabs imo, it sounds really almost dry

[@yeeza420]

I cant wait any longer...

[@vincentw9610]

could you test -> Geonworks Raptor HE Switch

[@StephenMcGregor1986]

and TTC Magnetos

[@raviahuja1586]

Even though I like the sound of PCR, I'm gonna go with zinc. I prefer to have some weight to my keyboards.

[@KaledTV]

The space bar is much better on the PCR ABS.

[@akumolari3253]

Zinc alloy 320e holyyy

[@coryxvx]

zinc with ceramic keys!

[@middle_pickup]

I honestly don't care about the sound of the keyboard. I just want to know if the lekker v2's have stem wobble. My 60he is great...except it feels like a fisher price toy compared to my cheap Logitech keyboard. The stem wobble is so annoying in game.