"Words" [Final Animatic]

[@crowrosive]

(read after watching!) hey guys so I'm looking for a lil bit of feedback here with this project! how do you feel about the ending is it subversive enough? I have 3 endings I'm toying with the one shown here a one where the tiger leaves at the end carry Oedis body having killed him without a shadow of doubt and an ending here oedi sticks his end out the dog house -his collar having been torn off by Tiger what do you think works best? do you prefer either of these endings for being more unexpected? or is an open ending like the one shown here best? I have to write a reflection on how this lil piece works with subversion so some feedback and advice would be swell!

[@chloroform5640]

do the torn collar one

[@magoobertron]

Corvid Katana I like the ending where the tiger frees him. - He didn’t eat the body here, so there would be no point as they were talking about the confines of the tigers needs. -But at the end he talks about true freedom from his perspective, so he would free the dog. If he eats the dog that would also be an acceptable ending, but on personal opinion I choose him giving the dog freedom.

[@viizoopy]

collar torn :o

[@isakboba6487]

I like the ending where he carryings him off

[@pilesofbats]

I imagine the torn collar ending!

[@cursedsmile9322]

I guess they’re both right and wrong at the same time. Everyone has their own definition of freedom and captivity.

[@JaggedBird]

That is true. But there’s a work around. Perhaps end it with him walking away and Odei carefully and nervously walking away after the tiger. That would in a way make him more free than the tiger giving both arguments; he’d be free to go where he wants and come back to his food and water.. THAT WOULD BE TRUE FREEDOM ACCORDING TO BOTH. This is why the broken collar ending is the best idea. After all, the tiger did say “let me show you what true freedom looks like” This would be true freedom to both

[@theberrby6836]

Yeah, totally agree

[@theberrby6836]

@@JaggedBird I actually had that similar thought as well, wow!

[@smartygirlygirlmel]

@@JaggedBird The tiger is talking about "true" freedom. Which I assumed a deeper meaning, meaning death. A freedom the tiger knows he'll also have to go through one day.

[@JaggedBird]

@@smartygirlygirlmel That also could be added to it. I think either of our ideas work best for this philosophical question.

[@CrownePrince]

Pick the ending that supports your story. Do you want the tiger to be the truth (current ending or clearly dead dog ending), the dog to be the truth (you'd need an ending you haven't considered), or do you want both arguments to be equal? To a wise viewer, none of these endings are unexpected, so your goal should be strengthening your story/argument.

[@-touya_todoroki]

technicly arnt both arguements equal we give are pets just as much freedom as the wild animals do the wolf has just as much freedom as the dog dose the wolf cant go where there is no food while the dog cant leave there owner without starveing the wolf cant go where theres a aggresive pack while the dog cant go near feral dogs a wolf cant breed and populate as he or she pleases just like a dog cant breed as is pleased but eaother way wild animals and dogs have simular freedoms and diffrent freedoms edit:the dog died becouse he had no freedom to run at that time thats the only reason he died or she...

[@The1stPurpleCat]

I see the arguments about our pets having freedom with us, but what some don't understand is that the story this is based off of is a metaphor, telling us safer is not always free. I am on the tiger's side, but I think the ending should be like what you have here, but after the credits (and the watchers think the dog died) we see the dog walk out without the color, shaking, scared of the tiger and the new 'freedom'.

[@luwycat]

Its freedom in their own perspective, so both are equal.

[@kerrymitchell7307]

i want them both to be true

[@flames1752]

You'd need the dog to step out and say this changes nothing with his color on the ground if you want him to win or for it to be equal

[@Myusenpai]

I like the idea of the tiger looking like he killed the dog, but he instead broke his collar. It could help leave the idea open that he could leave or stay. The end in the video gives me the idea of politics. They bicker back and forth until one uses violence to get their way. It’s message doesn’t seem as strong to be because of this. In the end, it’s completely up to you

[@dragamation3266]

Okay thats not how politics as a whole works, and how does it mess up the message? the video is about an argument over what counts as freedom. If anything it adds something to it. That no matter what freedoms you have, other people can take that away from you.

[@Myusenpai]

Politics may have been the wrong word. What I meant was that it gives the impression of violence is the answer.

[@prehistoricorchid3455]

Omg i get it now. Now that you bring up politics i can't help hut think of democracy(or tbh anything else) vs communism The dog is communism because he maybe given food and shelter the government controls evey aspect of people's lives (ie. Wages, hours, rations, media) and the tiger is democracy. Because we certainly freedom of choice. And alot of times both parties try to make more communist or more democratic countries. And they go to war together and democracy tries to snuff out communism (example the usa helping south kora) and the tiger killing the dog is like defeating a communist country in a war. Idk just my thoughts.

[@huhhuh9598]

prehistoric orchid I am curious how long it will take till someone is gonna go balls,and throw a flametower in the comment sections,because of your statement.

[@prehistoricorchid3455]

@@huhhuh9598 Lowkey tho. Its far fetched but it just kinda poped in my head hearing political.

[@pilesofbats]

Plot twist: the tiger didn’t kill the dog and just tore off his collar so he can be shown the same freedoms

[@j.jaylee.h]

no he ded 😂

[@Topdoggie7]

Plot twist to the plot twist, he bit the collar too hard and still killed the dog.

[@taiinted5371]

pretty sure the ending is meant to have an open ending like that, so it's not really a plot twist because we don't know if he's dead.

[@j.jaylee.h]

taiinted true

[@prehistoricorchid3455]

Thats what i thought. Unkess the "freedom" was an afterlife but that wouldn't make sense story wise. Nor would killing him unkess it was the fact the tiger could kill him. That the dog wasn't able to run away cause we was tied down. But the line "let me show you true freedom" still makes me question that.

[@CelestialBreeze0325]

This was so good. And the message was even better. The fact we cant always understand each others needs, wants, or freedom. Amazing. Sad the dog was attacked though.

[@froggydoggy3918]

Glimmering Starlight the creator gave an open ending so there’s a chance he is alive

[@whoopsydaizy]

Different animals, different individuals, different needs. A dog wouldn't survive in the tigers situation and neither would the tiger the dog, because after all, even if he killed the humans he'd be put down.

[@lumews]

But he didn't die.

[@CelestialBreeze0325]

@@lumews i didnt say he died i said it was sad he was attacked

[@sleep.starvedd]

@@CelestialBreeze0325 might not have been, maybe the tiger just tore off the collar so the dog could experience the freedom the tiger has.

[@inkspectra6456]

My theory is that neither one of them are free. Both are bound by their needs, precautions they must take, and the limitations other beings enforce on them. When the dog talks about how the tiger cannot tread on ground another tiger has laid claim, his shadow morphs into a tiger as well. I know it likely wasn't supposed to be that deep, but I like to think it is symbolic to how the tiger can't just take the dog and his owner's home for himself. Sure he has the choice to just prowl the yard and kill them both, but there are consequences to such actions. It is the same everywhere else for every animal on this earth. There is competition and there are limitations. The dog has rules to follow an limitations to abide to just like the tiger. And despite what the tiger claims... the dog does have a choice to fight back. The dog is just wary of the consequences. And I'm sure the tiger is wary of the consequences regarding challenging another tiger, and thus choose to avoid said conflict. Neither of them are free. Really, both the dog and the tiger are mirrors of eachother on a symbolic and literal level. The only real freedom in this life, is death itself. To not be bound by limitations and laws. To not have to work yourself, or be forced to be anything you're not. Which is why I like the ending where the dog was killed. Because the dog is free, yet the tiger is still in chains. I also prefer this ending because the tiger says "I'll never know your freedom, but you'll never know mine." During this moment the scene became tense, and it really felt like the tiger was going to kill him or do something. Plus, it just makes no sense to have him say that and imediantly free the dog, allowing the dog to experience his freedom after he said he wouldn't. Idk. Just my opinion!

[@crowrosive]

Ink Spectra interesting because my original idea when making this was that neither are free

[@inkspectra6456]

@@crowrosive Oh! :0 Well brilliant minds think alike. Heh heh. This was a beautiful lil animatic thing you did btw! Really made me think.

[@panzerkrieg3509]

Freedom is but extended privileges

[@inkspectra6456]

@@panzerkrieg3509 My goodness that is a good quote. :0

[@inkspectra6456]

@@panzerkrieg3509Also forgot to say, "Very true."

[@Fandomnut]

I would like to think the tiger tore off the dogs collar so the tiger could show its side of the world to the dog. Each side has its ups and downs.

[@Winterdragon101]

Man, this was really cool. My favorite thing about this was how traditionally you get told the story where the tiger is more free, and the dog would be considered the one in chains. But the dog makes good points, and I thought that was awesome. Personally, I like the darker ending. I expected the tiger to take off the chain, so I personally prefer the ambiguous ending. Did the tiger kill him? If he did, why didn't he eat him? Is he truly a slave to his needs, or is the dog alive? It makes you think, consider the characters, and ponder the final message. Regardless, this was an incredible watch! Wonderful work!

[@crunchygrunchy5741]

I mean, the tiger didn't eat him because he knows better than to eat a carnivore, lmao.

[@amaliciousgoose]

@@crunchygrunchy5741 haven ‘ t coyotes killed and eaten carnivorous pets like cats ?

[@crunchygrunchy5741]

@@amaliciousgoose yes? But those are irl coyotes, who have very small brains and aren't capable of higher thought. This is a fictional tiger, in a fictional world, with fictional intelligence. He'd probably be grossed out by carnivore meat(understandably, since carnivores carry a lot of parasites and diseases and don't offer much nutritional value) and wouldn't eat him. Also, there's no way he ate a whole ass dog in the span of three seconds.

[@amaliciousgoose]

@@crunchygrunchy5741 true .

[@dragamation3266]

If ur goin for an unexpected ending, i say this ending works. in stuff like this somethin like the collar being torn off is more expected than the dog actually being killed.

[@vrrrne]

I was actually waiting for it to be killed the whole time, so I don’t know, I guess it’s just two kinds of people

[@j.jaylee.h]

the ending kinda scared me but i like it in a strange way. not everyone is friendly, especially tigers, but it would be cool to see a nicer ending although it might not fit the tigers character. i just like the idea of this becoming a movie where he and the dog become besties while showing eachother their freedoms 😊

[@dragonsforlif5404]

Jazmine Hueso no offense, but I think it kind of ruins it. It tells a message, and tigers have wild instincts. I think the dog getting killed is a good ending.

[@j.jaylee.h]

Dragons For lif that’s what I said 😂

[@j.jaylee.h]

Dragons For lif I agree it’s a good ending, I’m just childish and like when people get along. And I wasn’t expecting it so it startled me lol

[@dragonsforlif5404]

Jazmine Hueso yeah, me too. Poor doggo, but the tigers gotta eat I guess (if he ate it)

[@j.jaylee.h]

Dragons For lif it showed him walking off so I assume he didn’t, which is somehow even meaner? Like he killed him to prove a point. It’s dark and crazy and I love it but it’s also like “nooo the doggg” 😂

[@penhead3480]

I love them both so much!X33 the entire argument they had with each other was just so deep it totally got me sucked in

[@jainkans5794]

I like to interpret the ending as the tiger not killing the dog but just scaring him. This is to show that even though the dog can have all it's needs met it still lives in the whims of others, anyone who wants to take from him can, while the tiger can fight and stand for himself.

[@crowguts7736]

Woa, the ending was pretty harsh!! The pup Straight up got killed!!

[@movedchannels3725]

He didn't die. Otherwise blood would've slowly drooled out of the dog house. The tiger just broke the collar.

[@The1stPurpleCat]

stebby Maybe. The ending was supposed to make you think. It didn't tell you if the tiger killed the dog, or if the tiger took off the collar. You decide.

[@kittypie7678]

Okami Isn’t really all that, fricc the guy that made the video is deciding on wether the dog should be killed and eaten by the tiger or the collar would be torn off Or just leave it at this ending and have it up to people’s imaginations to decide what happened to Oedi

[@girlgamer6678]

stebby it sorta up to interpretation tbh

[@animationsandvnsbasil]

Who knows

[@trashystf3895]

This reminds me of the lady or the tiger story where the ending is up to the watcher/ reader. Did he kill the dog or break his chains. Did the princess lead the young man she loved to the lady she hated or the tiger so he would be killed?

[@KKLaurelye]

They're both true and false. The tiger is a slave to its needs and its nature, the dog is a slave to man, and neither is as free as they pretend. But then, no one ever is. Humans are slaves to money and laws. Even the richest are bound. In the end, choice is the closest thing to freedom we have. The dog did not choose to be a pet but it did probably choose to stay one. The tiger did not choose to be a tiger but it did choose where it went and what it did. However, here are the two choices that matter most in the video: the dog's choice to share its food and the tiger's choice to hurt, kill, or intimidate the dog, whichever it ended up doing. The dog shared its wealth and the tiger hurt another to win an argument.

[@kiwifit620]

Kitty Wood *cough* which is why dogs are such good boys *cough*

[@KKLaurelye]

@@kiwifit620 Yeah, they are. Good dog, best friend. But really, it's more of a comment of the nature of certain kinds of people. As the saying goes, by the time you've resorted to violence, you've already lost the battle of minds. The tiger couldn't think up another argument so it used violence instead. That isn't to say the dog was right, just that the tiger lost the battle of minds.

[@JaggedBird]

Kitty Wood exactly. I hate to bring religion up but as an atheist it happens a lot with me.. it’s sad honestly that the tiger was closed minded..yet both aren’t correct

[@animationsandvnsbasil]

Kiwi Fit Not mine..

[@clawcakes]

tiger is an absolute unit

[@dayanadragon5362]

*i was very surprised at the end*

[@kikiisconnerswife7291]

H-he just scared him, right? He didn't die!? Correct? **cries**

[@imguilt_yy5160]

Kiki is Conner’s wife I don’t think he killed him, probably just proved to him that he doesn’t have much freedom in the chain, but he could be dead or still on there afraid, he didn’t stick his claws in there or anything or get hold of his neck, and the tiger bares no blood stain on his face nor paws, so the pupper is safe.

[@Dimmer_Saze]

I love the Tigers Accsent 💖

[@olivia16000]

Dimmer Dog They both have the same accent.

[@itsashton6343]

Laddy

[@JacksonsMainAcc]

I like these sort of endings, reminds me of Plague Dogs! You're free to believe what happened. - The message still got across no matter what you choose. (like plague dogs, again.) I'm pretty sure the tiger just ripped off the collar, but if he was really annoyed with the "foolish dog's" words, he would have just killed him and send him to "true freedom" (heaven / death.) It's really a 50/50, great job with an open ending like that! (( i personally do think he ripped off the collar, due to his words and the poses he was in, he was only in far enough to rip off the leather of the collar, not far enough to get his head / proper neck. ))

[@crowrosive]

Harebellies Arts thank you! The plague dogs was actually part of my research for an open ending!

[@movedchannels3725]

Yeah, otherwise if the dog died, im pretty sure Corvid would've drawn blood slowly coming out of the house.

[@JacksonsMainAcc]

​@@crowrosive No problem! You did an excellent job with it! (Though in the ending, you lean towards one ending more, still a possibility of the other - like this!)

[@paigeanderson4974]

I think a more surprising ending would be he cut his collar off, because it looked as if he killed the dog, but i think both are a nice idea, i just thought this might be a better plot twist.

[@YuubiTimberwolf]

Freedom is what you seek and want, everybody seeks and wants something different so freedom is different as well. I bet the Tiger destroyed the collar, giving him the option to choose what his freedom is since the collar stopped him from that.

[@kiwifit620]

Yuubi Timberwolf "I'll never know your freedom but you'll never know mine" If he were to just take off the collar the dog would get the chance to know his freedom. And if he did then the tiger wouldn't of said that.

[@YuubiTimberwolf]

@@kiwifit620 True, the dog will never know the freedom a tiger has since a dog is no tiger and dog & tiger a two different people who seek & want different things in life. Just like you and me will never know eachothers freedom.

[@capuchinosofia4771]

Reminds me of a short moral of a fable, but instead of a tiger it was a wolf! (Without all the bickering back and forth tho, when the wolf sees the collar he just said he preferred freedom and hunger instead of food, shelter and being chained) even so, I like this story too

[@panzerkrieg3509]

Freedom is merely extended privileges, no one is every completely free

[@fruitjuice_]

R.I.P Oedi F to pay respects.

[@fruitjuice_]

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[@LuizaFDeF]

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[@weesnawdonkyyay8499]

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[@catwhiskers4885]

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[@MissLionHeartx]

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[@xxAceXPxx]

This is so much like the philosophy class I'm currently taking in university. Just like the video, the class I'm taking revolves around the concepts of freedom, the origins of inequality, and the pursuit of the ideal governing social structure. Specifically it talks about the freedom of the natural man vs the freedom of the civil man. A point is made during the length of the curriculum to express that you can't have 100% of both worlds, and that you can't move back from the civil life (though you can be exiled from it, technically. but youre mind is changed). I feel like the tiger represents the natural freedom where you only have your basic needs and never need beyond those basic needs (though many have debated the negative reality which comes with this, like the dog has). And the dog on the other had represents civility, where his needs go beyond that of basic necessity, though he posses leisure the natural man will never have (such as easily accessible food and water). Interestingly enough the dog tries to give the tiger civility which made me think of the quotes by Jean Jacque Rousseau, “they consent to wear chains so that they will be able to give them to others” (77). “[The weak] all ran to chain themselves, in the belief that they secured their liberty. . ." (70) In addition the concept of civility and the constant pursuit of modernity will lead to ones eventual downfall, similarly to the death of the dog at the end of the video. I'm probably missing a lot of stuff but this is what I remember off the top of my head. Good job on this project so far! I'm not sure if you've ever read Jean Jacques Rousseau, but if you haven't I'd recommend you look into it because its very similar (though yours is 10x if im being honest. Rousseau is probably slightly offended)

[@theotherghostgirl337]

I think that the tiger neither killed nor freed the dog, but essentially scared the shit out of him. The dog went on and on about the freedoms he got as a pet versus the dangers of being a wild animal, but he didn’t realize that there were dangers to being kept on a lead as well (not being able to run away) I think this interpretation represents pros and cons of living a more sedentary lifestyle bs a nomadic one While having a 9-5 means that you never have to worry about food, it also means that you’re *tethered* by it in that it limits how far you can travel without prior permission. The tiger has the freedom to go where he pleases, he’s usually kept to a certain territory. While the tigers human counterparts wouldn’t be outright chased from cities, they might be pushed out by social stigma

[@fixielle]

Let the ending be like this. Then the viewer can decide what happened in it for real.

[@gloryflarea]

I love it when recommended brings up stuff you saw years ago, and makes you think. This one really does make one think, and I like that about it.

[@kaylee3772]

Great voice acting and art!! But poor dog at the end! ;(

[@peachy4123]

I like the idea that freedom is what you make of it

[@ItsCaduceus]

I’m sp00ked Seriously though this was really cool!! I just did a school paper arguing about animal rights and I focused on the types of freedom and what freedom really means, so this was excellent to watch! The art and voice acting were amazing too, thanks for sharing!!

[@punkgutz8043]

...dang ..I thought he was going to tear off his collar, but as I sat at the credits I saw he wasn’t coming out and I was like “OH FRICK WAIT-“

[@makaylat.7005]

aaaa! i love this!! i though it was going to be another film about how the animal not chained up is always more free but the entire discussion about the different kinds of freedom was really interesting. i also loved how subjective the end is, because we never see the dog it is up to the viewer to decide if the tiger killed him or just bit off his collar. loved it!!

[@l_aura6780]

The statement of true freedom at the end was a great touch to the overal story. Because in the end no one is really free and our perception of what freedom is varies from person to person, and even then do we have our own chuckles keeping us from true freedom. The only shared and true freedom we have is death. Over all this video is great, really filosofical also. I showed it to my filosofie teacher and she absolutely loved it and we discussed it in class.

[@Flightstorm]

THAT WAS NOT OKAY! I was seriously hoping he would stick his head out and run after him like a new friend! But I do like the idea of leaving it up to the imagination and believing what you wanted to happen. While the author actually knows and just enjoys watching us all fight lol

[@mistrex]

I mean it was a wild tiger xd

[@L3ased]

They haven’t picked a finial ending

[@kitnkindlin683]

I believe he did snap his collar because the rope fell and the tiger had no blood on his lips. The dog must’ve been startled or still shocked in realization.

[@cherudon5310]

Pine(star) and tigerheart moment lmao

[@lakefeatherss]

Yeah

[@sophiablanco9236]

Oof im not hating but isn't it Tigerstar/claw ;o; but that does fit accurately :'O whoa

[@lakefeatherss]

Tallpine OwO oh I completely missed that.

[@itsashton6343]

OMG a fellow warriors fan!

[@samaritan_sys]

Not a bad commentary. Live life free within the bounds of order, or live life free within the bounds of passion. Both come with chains attached. Both come with pleasures. Order is more enjoyable, overall, in the way that any addiction is enjoyable--it's like a blissful narcotic whose side-effects can be easily managed. It's more conducive to building everything we like to partake in. Never forget, though... the ones who live life by their passions can and will snuff out our ordered existences at any moment they choose.

[@HeartgoldHarmony]

I like this for the reasons Because these characters as animals are discussing about their opinions about freedom

[@X123Monster]

I like the one ending where the tiger would rip his collar off. Not kill him. That’s depressing.

[@paulinlikeflowers7073]

and then theres domestic cats LOL

[@catiix12]

lol 😂

[@familygood8061]

The string being torn, it gives the dog a choice, which freedom does he want? 'Cause the is what freedom is, choices'

[@user-xk1cl5bw3y]

I really like the ending but still f-youTiger Edit: It's actually kinda poetic in a way. That's why i love it

[@L3ased]

River Of Clementines hes not finished and the ending might change

[@sealbatross]

the shattered glass separating him from freedom is so cool!

[@syxparker]

I love the twist on the story, not to be one of the pests, but i loved the story of the wolf and the dog when i was growing up, but you completely renovated the story and make it your own. I love this story and the art, i might stick around for a while

[@lilydragon2129]

Truthfully, in these kinds of stories there's always one thing the dog leaves out, love. Pets don't really care about their freedom because they have a loving family,(at least this goes for dogs, not so much for cats, they are solitary Animals and don't exactly need love the way dogs do, though there are exceptions) and if they don't, they often run away, no matter how tightly you chain them, and even the loved dogs run away sometimes, but the important part is that they always come back, because compared to the harsh kill or be killed world out there, home is a nice safe comfort, I mean, most Animals live longer in captivity then their wild counterparts, but honestly, the tiger and the dog both have it right, life is often a trade, sometimes you have to sacrifice things to enjoy other things, one isn't better than the other, they both just have different experiences

[@LoryskaEntertainment]

Even if the tiger killed the dog, the tiger has endangered himself by killing a member of “society.” We are never free to do anything without consequences, even if we think we’re free. Those who choose not to hurt others aren’t free to do whatever they want, but they are free of punishment. It’s up to the individual to decide what’s more important.

[@lilcoyoteeggg]

I love the voices! Who ever voice acted did a wonderful job and the animation is beautiful. I subscribed. :)

[@clipsocat5296]

Corvid katana- you’ve got a new sub.... I love the message behind this, however I did see room to make a mini series out of this and possibly send more of a message, as in a way, many of us are the dog tied to the leash. If we want to get out of it, we have to work for it. The tiger could have chosen to free the dog, in exchange for many tasks down the road. However, I do love this and I love the message behind it, And hope you continue to make great animations like this in the nearing future.

[@ArtOfRemy]

I like the ending where the dog’s collar is torn off. Maybe a test the tiger set for him, a decision, whether to see the tiger’s own side of freedom and truly be “free” or to stay and always be caged. I absolutely love this concept and the animation in the video. 👐

[@YAFCTSSAO]

That ending was savage, I liked the debate, or argument.

[@one2much7700]

"DARK"

[@JaggedBird]

A thought has occurred to me to make both freedoms given to Odei. Perhaps end it with him walking away and Odei carefully and nervously walking away after the tiger. That would in a way make him more free than the tiger giving both arguments; he’d be free to go where he wants and come back to his food and water.. THAT WOULD BE TRUE FREEDOM ACCORDING TO BOTH. This is why the broken collar ending is the best idea. After all, the tiger did say “I’m better off showin’ ya what true freedom looks like”

[@ToxicServalFox]

I like the idea of the doggo just havin its collar ripped off.

[@sleepysundew9544]

I find the ending being completely perfect as it is. Their interactions are amazing. Animation spot on. I think that leaving the dog dead, killed by a tiger really makes sense with his final words being I'll show you true freedom. Because he really did, by killing the dog the dog is free of his own needs, his body, and the life he knew, he had become freed.

[@Bemis201]

I like to think that the dog is free as a spirit of sorts, not bound by anything, free of having to make choices with consequences and not having to pay any price for a privilege.

[@luwycat]

Plot twist: the tiger killed the dog so the dog goes to heaven, and heaven IS freedom

[@kiwifit620]

BluwDragon Or he just killed him to win the argument... Yeeeeaaahhhh,I like yours better.

[@nami5803]

This little work of animation story board thing! The ending put me in a baffle between rather the dog dying or the dog had his collar taken off by the tiger! But this was short and nice!

[@redsoulheart5040]

We can debate about what freedom means in this life. But in truth both are wrong.... and right... in the end Death is the only truth there is, it’s the one thing none of us can escape. I guess death is the only true freedom there is, when you really think about it. So don’t waste your life arguing over pointless things, live and be happy while your on this earth to do so, be kind and help others. If ya believe the dog or the tiger it doesn’t matter in the end because we all face death some time. So don’t worry about it and just focus on being happy with yourself,

[@iclynnx]

This was really interesting! I hope the dog survived, with a torn collar, and gets to see the world from the tiger's perspective. Because why not? :)

[@frost5034]

This reminds me of a saying I once read. "Understanding is a 3 edged sword. My side, your side and the truth"

[@saladglove]

I really like the ending of this. It really gives FREEDOM for the audience to decide whether or not the tiger killed the dog or not. Normally I don't like vague endings cause it feels like a cop out for poor writing. But it really works with this, and I like that.

[@tamaracdc20]

I love how you represented freedom with a broken bowl that the dog tries to catch a bird from.

[@megaarcanine2.023]

I think the theme is no matter what we all have different weather it’s in a forest or in a city we all have different types of freedoms some we might not be able to experience.

[@ermagerhd6140]

This is like a modern Aesop fable it’s great!! Also I think the ending where the tiger breaks the collar and lets the dog choose to stay or leave would be a good one

[@Luna-and-Skylar-Productions]

I think that this open ending was good. I feel like this can give the viewer the option to decide what happened to the dog after it ended.

[@dynonamed_fred3962]

so deep and the artwork was amazing 10/10 would watch again

[@mmaiyraaa]

I love this concept and story a lot. For the ending, do what is best for the story. But I really like the ending were the tiger breaks the dogs dollar and show him his freedom.

[@Moetron_V2]

Amazing. Very concerned for what happened to the dog but amazing. Do what ever ending you see fit for this situation it’s all up to you

[@vanessapowell7834]

This was great!!! The voice actings on point, the art is great, and i really love the Dialogue was great! The ending was good to but what about an ending where he tears off his collar and shows him the freedom of being wild then the dog shows the tiger the freedom of being a pet. But the endings good either way anyone puts it. And honestly i agree with the tiger in this Conversation they had

[@N3k0Y0m1]

i think this is about different types of freedoms, the dogs freedom has rules, aka a freedom with rules. the tigers freedom has no rules, aka a free without rules. and when the tiger kills the dog, it's the freedom of death.

[@potatocat6342]

“Im better off showing you what true freedom looks like” It was either heaven or him tipping his collar off. But there was no blood on him when he left

[@Goat.parade]

I like this ending the best to be honest. It leaves a better message than having the dog alive with a missing collar.

[@tacotruckfursuits3130]

i believe there are three types of freedom shown in this animatic. the freedom of the wild, the freedom of captivity or the freedom of death. i also believe this animatic shows we can choose to be wild or captive but death isn't a choice. all freedom has its own strengths and flaws. these strengths and flaws can be beneficial to the person born to live in it and be detrimental to the person who wasn't meant to but death is one that everyone can devastate. (hope this made sense! ;w;)

[@liquiddrizzle6418]

tiger is pretty much right. What that dog has is the illusion of freedom. He actually cant do much for himself cause now he has to depend and trust that his master will continue to do theses things to him, as long as he follows masters rules.

[@nightmarepokemon1143]

Love this u need to make another one we're the dog is free and meets up with the tiger again. And someone needs to make this a fully coloured, moving animation. I would but I'm still learning

[@mysterystar2]

You could make a MAP of this! It's a great story that I would love to animate in

[@penelopeponycloud7274]

PLEASE MAKE MORE! OR MSKE EPISODES OF THIS! I’m subbing rn!

[@grimmcorvid5713]

Great work!

[@KP4views]

Nah b/c I remember watching this as a kid and getting so scared and crying for hours😂 Awesome vid for animatic!

[@AlphaBookZ]

OOOO I LOVE IT but poor doggo ;m;

[@fwaaan1974]

tiger got salty that it lost the argument

[@rynfornow3411]

I like how you made the story better. The original story (that I’ve read in a book of tales) was basically: Dog: Here! Food and water! No worries and there’s safety! Big cat: But you have an uncomfortable collar LOL. Peace ✌️ (I don’t think there was a chain) And that’s the end of the story. But here the dog is saying “you’re a slave to your own needs,” which is SO TRUE.

[@cronchycorgocat1376]

I’m just gonna believe the collar was bitten off

[@caraquiglee529]

Well. I agree with the tiger. We are so happy to be chained that we never experience living

[@weirdalien446]

Then again, I’d actually rather be the dog in this situation. I think the tiger’s style of freedom is too often romanticized. People don’t realize that the tiger has to depend on himself alone, which sounds like freedom until you hurt your leg and can’t hunt because of it. Nobody will help you hunt, you could starve to death, and your territory will probably be taken over by some other tiger. That freedom honestly doesn’t look that free to me. I would hate to live in constant stress over how I’m going to get my next meal. That would leave me with no time to dream and explore more intellectual interests. I would also hate to only be able to stay in one area like the tiger, where I have to fight over resources constantly. There is so much more to life than a struggle to stay alive.

[@deleteduser9755]

This is like the asoph fable, The dog and the wolf i believe, except the dog actually puts in his say on the subject

[@msdyks9000]

I like how it is already cause the message in it is really understandable but I would also like the ending where the dog peeks out of the dog house after the tiger tore his collar off. Maybe Oedi would follow him then because he slowly sees and understands his side. Just a thought of mine

[@vanillakitcat1471]

I like the one where the dog goes out with his collar off

[@ace.archives]

I think having his collar torn off would be the best ending. Rather than the tiger killing him in cold anger, he would be shown as wiser, and the ending, to me, would have more meaning. But do whatever you feel is best!

[@mange2696]

i uh um I this is such a good argument and like the message and i. I love this too much

[@senorroachman6783]

The beginning is extremely similar to the wolf and the dog fable by aesop. Im very impressed. :3

[@imfeelinextra]

Howd did 5 min feel like 10 man dang this here was just great no words a real thinker

[@roseywolf7867]

Please tell me that he just ripped the collar off

[@happysketch8206]

Death isn't freedom Life without chains is freedom

[@WiFiDown37811]

I come back to this video every now and then and I still like to believe that the tiger spared the dog, only snapping his collar. the tiger for one says he wants to show the dog what real freedom is and he wouldn't get the chance to prove his points right if he just outright killed the dog. for another, when the tiger leaves the dog house, there's no blood on him. if he had killed the dog, there likely would've been blood. I like to think that since one of his arguments is that he gets to make his own decisions, he decided to break the dog's collar and free him of his chains so he could have something he didn't have before: a choice. he could choose to stand by what he believes freedom is and stay with his owners, or he could choose to test the tiger's beliefs and see how much freedom he has on the other side of the fence though I understand why some people think that he just outright killed the dog

[@ansel8066]

What an unexpected ending.....

[@bambimonstahh]

I knew that that was going to have a dark turn.

[@oreocean2783]

Personally speaking, while Oedi dying is an interesting ending I think showing that the tiger ripped off his collar instead would show that both arguments are valid rather than just killing off that idea. Honestly this is a very well made animatic that talks about what people think freedom really means.

[@kiwifit620]

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