Words on Bathroom Walls - Why You Should Skip It

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[@hunter4779]

Say whatever you want about the movie but Charlie Plummer's performance was great. The kid is an amazing young actor.

[@itssarana_21]

Acting was good I agree with you but the plot and storyline was poorly done

[@happyengene8706]

thank you, i agree. i loved the movie and book!

[@Moo-fb2kb]

Except he did no research & was mediocre in the film. Yall hype up every single skinny white male actor even when they don't deserve it

[@Lamomo1.0_]

@@Moo-fb2kb my brother is schizophrenia I know how he acts and stuff. This actor played his role very very very very well

[@monalisadoley5339]

@@Moo-fb2kb Dude ,chill !! What are you so annoyed about? He did give a good performance so what’s race got to do with it lol. Plus, it’s a light hearted coming of age movie with a positive depiction of schizophrenia so stop nitpicking.

[@tayloregan2341]

As a person with schizoaffective disorder, I feel this movie depicted the illness as well as a 2-hr movie could. I have had hallucinations that were vivid and were specific characters that I interacted with, which the woman in this video is saying is not necessarily believable. Nobody’s hallucinations are exactly the same. I work with mentally ill adults and I learn something new everyday. There are similarities, yet it’s an individual struggle. Of course he listed all the meds he tried out in the movie. I had notebook papers full of meds I tried and I did find a drug combo that pretty much knocked out almost everything, like it seems he did. Some ppl are not so lucky, true, but the movie did show the difficulty of going through experimental trials and a wide range of medications. I also think him telling his class about his schizophrenia was amazing. I wish I could have done that. I never walked with my high school class in graduation, because I was diagnosed and very sick, and the rumors and stigma were awful. If I could have had a discussion with my classmates like he did, I think that there would be less pressure and stigma. I see your point that he became brave enough to do that rather suddenly, but like I said, they had 2 hrs to show how to eradicate stigma. You stomp out stigma by educating others. His family and social support- that was a big positive for the movie. It really did not end as if his new medication knocked out all of his hallucinations. At the end, his stepfather shuts that closet door that starts to trigger him. To me, this said that things wouldn’t always be perfect from now on and surrounding yourself in positivity is quite beneficial. I related to it in that I know there will always be “down days” and glitches, but there is always hope. I found this movie insightful and showing he could have a romantic relationship despite his mental illness says a lot. I think this video I’m commenting on said a lot of “it’s kinda unbelievable, but I guess it could happen that way”. Everyone is different, so as mentioned, his schizophrenic journey will obviously be unique. I don’t know, I cried at the end of this movie and I thought A Beautiful Mind was also a tearjerker in terms of relatability, too. We don’t see a lot of schizophrenia in media. I found this movie very good and informative and not because I wanted it to live up to the hype. It was an awesome portrayal for a 2-hr movie.

[@Daziesandconfuzed]

@@NGLApexIxPsychosis is a symptom of schizophrenia as well though, yeah?. I’m not sure if I read your comment wrong, and if I did I apologize, but there’s no differing types of hallucinations/delusions between those experiencing psychosis alone vs psychosis in schizophrenia.. The most common hallucinations are auditory in both cases, though hallucinations are not a continuous thing in schizophrenia since psychotic states come and go for those with the disorder. Is that what you were trying to say? Sorry if I misunderstood. The only thing that can dictate the kinds of hallucinations/delusions one has is the environments they’re most often surrounded by ( Germans will have quite different hallucinations/delusions than Japanese). (Unless you’re arguing that the movie makes it seem like anyone with Schizophrenia is constantly in a state of psychosis, which of course it just not true and can be a harmful thing to push in a movie, and if that’s the case then I agree with you. Too many people out there believe Schizophrenics are just constantly hallucinating in psychosis and that’s very frustrating.)

[@etbadaboum]

Let's see the good side: it depicts the illness under a positive light and shows someone suffering from it. At least it's not someone who is violent to others and seen as someone alien to the rest of humanity.

[@Star-zr4ls]

Well said, it’s been always portrayed as someone who will harm others.

[@CertifiedStickerFiend]

@@Star-zr4lsso its not perfect but its good enough to want to make people learn about an illness that isnt an inherently bad

[@alizahnasir1311]

Yeahhh like split it shows that did people can hurt others or are dangerous..(which is not TRUE) this movie wasnt the best representation but it just shows the small parts of schizophrenic life... it just tried it remove the stigma... idk ... i like the movie

[@Shaka6331_]

@@alizahnasir1311 just a bit confused by the start of your comment. Are you saying Split is good because of how it shows DID represented or is bad? Because it is definitely a bad representation of DID.

[@alizahnasir1311]

@@Shaka6331_ soo sorry that u got confused i meant to say SPLIT was very bad and agressive towards DID it shows that they r dangerous and can have a 'BEAST' as an alter which is totally wrong... and it got way too much hype😬 i m just saying that words on bathroom walls tried to represent the good side of a schizophrenic person and remove a little bit of stigma around it n i personally enjoyed it (again sorry for ur confusion 💕)

[@annagould478]

Speaking as someone with bipolar disorder, and not as someone with schizophrenia - I actually really enjoyed this movie, strangely enough. I think there were a ton of missed opportunities and they needed to do a LOT more research with people actually living with schizophrenia, but I felt like there was a lot of nuance I enjoyed. I loved the fact that he had treatment resistant schizophrenia. As someone with treatment resistant bipolar, it was great to see that on screen. I LOVED the fact that he started on this new drug and you get to see that balance of side effects versus symptoms - that’s the first time I’ve EVER seen that depicted in television or film. And, I cannot emphasise this enough - the fact that the new medication works.... but the side effects are unbearable. The reality for so many of us, for so many medications. It combats this idea of “why would you come off that medication” or “why would you stop that medication” if it was “working” for you. Don’t get me wrong, medication is important. I take mine religiously. But I appreciate the portrayal of why sometimes people DON’T comply with medication. It’s not because they’re selfish, or dumb, or irresponsible. It’s deeper than that. I was so worried they were going to have him find a “cure” by the end of the film, with the perfect medication cocktail. But again, the ending was more nuanced than that - it was a happy ending, which again is so rare for depictions of mental illness in film. But also, the ending wasn’t his symptoms going away. It was showing that he could be symptomatic and have a fulfilling life, if he had a strong support network around him (which he discovered he did). I really liked that in the end, the message was “I’m always going to have this illness. Medications won’t always work, they may for a while, they may stop” and the response from his support network being that they see him for who he is, and love him, and will fight for him and beside him. I also really enjoyed the role Paul played in the film - until the reveal of the email, I truly believed he was this bigoted evil character. But then you get to see that some of that perception all came from Adam’s fear and insecurities of rejection because of his illness and its stigma. While Paul certainly started out ignorant, he truly loved Adam and saw him as a son, and fought for him despite Adam’s behaviour towards him. The scene between the mother and Adam where she confronts him about the tossed pills and yells at him about the expenses of his illness and how her life is “all about him” was also a great moment for me - it represents the reaction so many of us get from parents/spouses when it comes to medical bills, medication, and managing a treatment resistant illness. You get to see it from Adam’s perspective, as the audience has seen Adam struggle with horrible side effects (been there), feelings of loneliness and isolation, and immense stress and pressure. I feel like it helps the (non mentally ill) audience to sympathise with Adam and see him as a person who is struggling and be offended on his behalf at the implication he is a burden, seeing how hard he’s working. The whole thing made me feel very seen. Obviously, not a perfect movie with a LOT of flaws, especially as a “schizophrenia movie”. But as a mental illness movie? I found it more promising than not. And in the very least, the main character had mental illness and genuinely was the PROtagonist, not evil, didn’t die at the end, had a happy ending, and his love with this girl didn’t magically “fix” him. I count that as a win.

[@lpsspecialeffects]

yess omg this is exactly how i feel about it too i have bipolar as well

[@eliorato]

omg i felt same

[@trillwill4068]

I am the same. I thought it was amazing to visually see some of the things I feel. I can’t describe my mania and anxiety to my family some times but this movie shows it in a way I can’t describe. I cried at just the trailer on the fact someone is shining light on mental illness. His body guards and the hippy girl are like my anxiety and mania. It was awesome to feel like I’m not alone. I have type 1 bipolar w panic disorder and OCD.

[@kimbobby3046]

@@hamunatley1033 I understand what she meant. Her point was for the writer to get more knowledge and opinions from actual patients. To get their perspective not just the medical info. That doesn't make it a documentary having more background before making a movie.

[@ashleigh-eva]

my thoughts exactly!! thanks for sharing :-)

[@skello5]

I didn’t hate this movie but the psych ward was so unbelievable haha he just up and leaves. He makes it all the way to the front entry to talk to his stepdad. It’s like have you ever been to a psych ward? You ain’t going nowhere lol

[@SoraByers]

Ikr

[@crashtruthseeker9790]

I planned an escape and came to the conclusion it was near impossible with the layout, also a patient walked outside so I didn’t bother climbing the fence as he would of alerted the staff, also they have double doors at the entrance, even if I get past the 1st door they wouldn’t let me past the second. Back to climbing the fence it wasn’t easily climbable as there wasn’t enough room to stick my fingers in the gaps. So nope you wouldn’t easily get out the psych ward as it’s very secure and designed to keep patients in.

[@93bottom]

This made me snort haha. So true.

[@janejan9728]

it's because the super-rich hollywood types get these types of places. They are completely disconnected from normal people. I'm sure if you can pay a few hundred grand per night like them, it's perfectly realistic.

[@jacquelineleitch7050]

I walked off the ward. It can happen.

[@RandiMarie_1983]

As someone with DID and schizoaffective disorder I really enjoyed it as a movie, much rather would see a positive light rather than a psycho killing people. The negative voice was so on point, glad you touched on that. If i was watching it as a documentary then yes it would have been disappointing. Yes it was dramatized as a movie in some ways but it was a positive in many lights as well.

[@infiniteaaron]

Great movie. Agreed. I don't like horror movies, so I am glad the dark voice was the ONLY part of this movie that creeped me out. Also, I don't know much about schizophrenia, so I don't know if this movie was even truthful (although I am sure it had a lot of points that were). Any movie that I can be jerked around through my emotions I feel is a keeper, as a possible "watch again" movie, which this one does spectacularly.

[@gunga834]

I'm not a psychiatrist nor have a PhD, but is DID w schizophrenia even possible? That would mean all your "personalities" or alters have schizophrenia.

[@jadarobinson6487]

YES!

[@DukeNukenum]

I have schizoaffective disorder and i loved this movie. But to each their own i suppose.

[@allyzagarma9503]

In what aspect do you love the movie? How is it unique compared to others?

[@DukeNukenum]

@@allyzagarma9503 I liked how it portrayed his first psychotic break. I like how it also portrayed his struggle with taking medicine that didn't work.

[@danberhe6949]

Some people are forgetting that it isn't supposed to be a documentary on EVERY case of schizophrenia, is supposed to be a movie seen from 1 perspective of a fictional character.

[@DukeNukenum]

@@danberhe6949 yea for sure

[@Lil_Valor]

@@DukeNukenum thank god I’m not to only one that actually enjoyed this movie as someone that has it too...

[@miriamdavis2988]

My 7 yr old and I watched it 2 nights ago. It opened up the dialog about mental health and why some people act the way they act so in my household, it was positive because to me, it's important that my kiddo understands that sometimes people's brains are complicated and need help and we should try our best to understand.

[@zipzap570]

They didn't try to show that any pill can cure or help schizophrenia. Infact it was quite contrary. They talked about how taking certain pills can have side effects and give rise to other problems. I liked the movie because there were instances that brought tears in my eyes for example, if someone has cancer people feel sorry and ready to provide all care and concern but if you have mental illness then they treat you badly. Also, there was dialogue how they can end up on street yelling and shouting and waiting to die. Director might have taken creative liberties but when serious issue is brought to common man usually such liberties helps to reach out to more audience. As a result those who have zero knowledge about schizophrenia might go ahead and look up about the disease.

[@crashtruthseeker9790]

I have Schizophrenia, diagnosed for the 3rd time after all these years of getting worse, never being fully rid of psychosis, all the confusion because of my Autism Spectrum Disorder and my lack of insight into my conditions I finally understand and am at peace with who I am and working hard to have a positive future not defined by either Schizophrenia or Autism. I accept them both as a part of me rather than who I am as a person. It’s good to know I’m in good hands and will get better.

[@jacquelineleitch7050]

Beautifully said.

[@j-a-k9585]

Wishing you all the best good for you.

[@magnoliasilcox904]

There were unrealistic parts but as a Schizophrenic person I felt a connection to this movie.

[@cheekybutter]

Just watched ‘Words on the Bathroom Walls’. Its clever and smart in how it portraits the complexities of a person dealing with a mental illness and growing up in high school. Highlighting stigma, relationships, the desire to fit in and the importance of family.... and in its own unique way. Its a special one because it shows the ugly, the dark, the humour and the hope. Watch it if you can.... it nearly slipped through the net for me.

[@alizahnasir1311]

💕

[@Toy_In_Tub]

Same. I love the movie

[@Mikey-cc2ny]

I see no same reason to skip this movie. It's an inspirational story, one that will fill u with real emotions. It teaches us about our own lives whether we are sick or not. Teaches us to love the people around us just the way they are

[@Moo-fb2kb]

A person with schizophrenia: these are all the reasons you should skip this offensive movie A person without schizophrenia: I see no reason to skip this movie

[@Mikey-cc2ny]

@@Moo-fb2kb 🙆🙆

[@auggiemain]

@@Moo-fb2kb you should read the comments because there are so many people with schizophrenia saying they loved the movie.

[@michaelgil990]

Considering the amount of people who have schizophrenia claiming that they enjoyed the movie in the comments, there’s nothing absolute at all about the movie. Let people enjoy it.

[@infiniteaaron]

It could be said that EVERY movie out there has some form of teaching. I can't think of any off the top of my head with SOME movies. However, I'm sure there is something to be learned from any movie you'll ever watch. You've just got to be a bit deeper in finding the purpose, as everything has a purpose for GOOD, in some way, shape, or form.

[@Dfg697]

Just want to point out if a Hollywood director made a movie about a civil war or the holocaust and didn't speak to survivors or read their books, testimonies, or research legal documents related everyone involved in the production would freak out but here we are with a community facing so much stigma and no one making this movie batted an eye???

[@danberhe6949]

then it turns in to a documentary rather than a movie, the same way something like 1917 doesn't depict ww1 as hefty as a documentary like they shall not grow old.

[@Dfg697]

@@danberhe6949 I see what you are saying but I disagree. The director or other crew could have spoken to people with schizophrenia and heard their experiences and struggles then taken that input and worked it into the story with some creative liberty (ex. very visual hallucinations for the purpose of making it obvious to the audience). Speaking to this community for input into wouldn't have made the movie a documentary. I feel there is a balance of honoring the experiences of people with Schizophrenia and bundling that all up into a movie where things need to be visual and fit into a 90 minute story. However I feel the director didn't bring in those experiences enough and kinda told a story about something he didn't fully grasp but it's cool if you disagree too. 🙂

[@danberhe6949]

​@@Dfg697 the thing is that is difficult to put in every DIFFERENT aspect that goes under the umbrella of schizophrenia without making it a documentary. the directory is telling the story of ONE individual with ONE specific case (trying to tackle all the aspects that affect each individual differently in 1 character would turn it into mocking, someone might have the same experience as adam, as others might not). the story isn't about tackling every aspect of it but (i feel) is more on the aspect of showing those from the outside how it affected a teenagers life, be it his future, his relationships, side effects of treatment, seeing himself as a disease, etc. i believe it excels at what it wanted to be, not a documentary about every aspect of schizophrenia and how they can affect the life of each individual, but a kids struggle with living with it. the same way something like 1917 is not a documentary about war as a whole, but a story about small characters inside it. of course everyone can have a different opinion of it, but this is just what i got out of the movie 🤷.

[@Dfg697]

@@danberhe6949 Yeah obviously they can't put every aspect right they only have a limited amount of time in a movie. I guess that's why I feel they should be reflecting Schizophrenia in a more realistic way that goes back to the community. Not the director telling his version of Schizophrenia when he has no experience with Schizophrenia and put in no effort to learn about it. Getting back to the night shift now but nice having some food for thought on my breaks! 👋🙂

[@kimbobby3046]

So true

[@ekersha299]

Really disappointing that the director did not make more of an effort to get a first person experience into living with schizophrenia. Have you heard of the HBO mini-series "This much I know is true"? The main character(s) are twin brothers, one with schizophrenia - both played by Mark Ruffalo. I would be curious to hear your feedback on it.

[@Michael-l8s4k]

How tf do you wanna compare a 1 and a half hour movie with a whole HBO series and since when do movies have to be reality tv, should it portrait living with an illness 100% accurately???? This ain't no documentary jeez

[@kaylao.3326]

@@Michael-l8s4k calm the hell down…goodness

[@Imtrying_girl]

If anyone wants to read an AMAZING book on schizophrenia I recommend "A Quiet Room"!!

[@joshknudson1224]

Thanks for the recommendation

[@maghrebunited496]

Do you know some movies?

[@Imtrying_girl]

@@maghrebunited496 no I don't unfortunately :/

[@vaeholloway]

@@maghrebunited496 the closest I’ve seen done honestly is “Strange Voices.” It’s feels like an 80s lifetime film with the music in the beginning but it feels like most honest depiction I’ve personally seen. I found it on netflix but it’s on here too.

[@e.a.c2]

Thank you!!!

[@ayanamcr.7303]

I cried so much watching this movie. Like 4 different times.

[@daniellekathybea.714]

Oh gosh! Same here!!!

[@drunkgeek3035]

Same... 😭😔

[@infiniteaaron]

Only four times? I don't remember how many times I cried and I literally just watched the movie. I am almost 100% sure it was at least twice that, though. Then again, I also laughed. This movie was awesome in my opinion.

[@gabbypuntoriero3609]

I have schizophrenia. before watching this video, I was so happy about this movie, I was so happy that we weren't depicted as a murderer and that the movie was also a love story too, like a normal movie, it was the most relatable out of all movies that I have seen that include schizophrenia. I told all of my friends and family about this movie! After watching this video I realised I need to stop congratulating the bare minimum!! Haha

[@MartinGuitarraHeroe]

I’m skipping this video, the film was amazing and Charlie Plummer is a great actor.

[@tee9417]

my thoughts exactly

[@hebruixe9125]

"Why you should skip it" was definitely the right choice, but I enjoyed hearing all the other funny titles you considered!

[@lar.8168]

I legit thought this was about why you shouldn't write things like 'live, laugh, love' on your wall lol

[@appletots7069]

LMAO

[@ethanlacey6457]

just a little thing alters are not the hosts different personalities, they're separate entities within the same body

[@justinepadilla4196]

Glad I didnt see this before watching the movie because I really like it a lot and learned a lot about the illness. I really dont know anything about schizophrenia besides about someone having hallucinations and you being somehow dangerous for others. I also know that the movie didnt show everything about it and kept it light. But the target audience of the movie arent kids who'll just see it as it is or someone who'll actually think that what's shown in the movie is all there it is on what its like having that king of disorder. As someone who just watched the movie, I actually learned a lot and have a new kind of interpretation of what it's like to be or to have something like that. Which leads me to want to know more about it, research, and really be educated. And I personally think that that is the actual point of the movie and maybe even the book itself even tho I haven't read it yet. So I really suggest you to still watch it because you can have an idea on what it's like to have schizhoprenia. And just research about it if you want to learn more about it. That's all there is to it and its actually recommendable if you want to learn new things or just curious about it. The movie is actually pretty good 🙂🙂

[@SilencedButNotForgotten]

A lot of her comments are also wrong. They mentioned how costly the medications are and he was never portrayed as a genius, but as somebody with a passion to cooking that eventually got pretty good at it. And obviously you don't have glitches and the hallucinations don't just stop instantly, but that's a visual representation that gives a good idea and summarizes what the goal of the medications are and do, which was also portrayed pretty good, since they started to appear less and less and less in the movie (eventually disappeared for a while). It's also insane that they should depict a normal person with no qualities in a movie. Who would watch it? He is a regular dude that struggles with it and finds love. That's as normal as it comes. And a better ways to share his illness to his peers? Everyone does it differently. I knew people who wouldn't share it at all, others, like Adam, took years to do it and are fine admitting it publicly now, even though, like with Adam, the first time was really traumatic. It's not like it was depicted as being easy. He actually nearly had a breakdown there and you can see it. I think a lot of the bashing was totally unnecessary and wrongly placed. Yes, the clinic was a bit unrealistic the way he just went downstairs and arrived at the front door. That would not happen. Could have been better. But the rest... Meh.

[@justinepadilla4196]

@@SilencedButNotForgotten my point exactly!

[@auggiemain]

@@SilencedButNotForgotten they actually portrayed him as the opposite of a genius lol cant believe she would say that. The whole reason that he gets a tutor is because hes not doing well in his classes.... aka not a genius lol.

[@Nangel2]

Thank you for your perspective on this movie. It's very valuable to hear from someone with the same condition if media portraying that condition does so well. I also appreciate your anger/frustration at the start of the video -- that too is valuable, because it gives a real human face to the hurt not-very-well-researched media about serious topics can cause.

[@RNAvirus]

I am a psychiatric nurse. Few if any movies show what psych wards, or hospitals, look like.

[@zackhigbee8832]

You are amazing Lauren. I too am diagnosed with shizoaffective and bipolar, depressive type. My boyfriend and I use your videos as a resource quite a bit. Thank you to you and your husband both for providing something my boyfriend and I can look at find our own life within'.

[@CheezInspector]

Sorry but I hope everyone sees this imperfect, highly important film. The character with paranoid schizophrenia is humanized in a way that is rare to see. He is not portrayed as a genius but his crush is. He's a passionate & talented cook who isn't naturally great at math. I agree w the inauthenticity of him leaving hospital and walking on stage. That's a common "coming of age" movie plot device (making a sudden "truth" speech b4 an audience of peers). ... He calls himself part of the "elite drug resistant club" too, emphasizing not everyone responds to drugs the way he does. And he goes through Hell. I disagree w the "Happy ending" portrayal too. He states he knows he will continue to face challenging times w the disease.

[@margaridarodrigues3834]

Just letting you know: betterhelp is a scam. Before you recommend it, maybe do a little more research or at least discose that the therapists aren’t qualified.

[@CaptendoChannel]

I have a friend diagnosed with schizophrenia, she's very strong and inspiring she told me a lot about her illness, and I knew when I saw the movie how bad and insulting it can be. I am writing a story for a movie about a schizophrenic woman, and accuracy and realism are my priorities! However, I did liked how in this movie, they depicted the paranoia and the aggressive moments of the main character. Your comment remark about his privileges, made me think, why they didn't at least showed other schizophrenic patients during his hospitalization suffering from other symptoms. The speech scene was... omg... he was fighting his hallucination... so stupid...

[@weekdaycycling]

I watched this movie yesterday on Netflix. I, personally thought the movie trying to represent an individual with schizophrenia as Hollywood fiction rather than a study case. People go to movies for entertainment, not for the classroom lecture. Adam's 3 imaginary friends are awesome. lol

[@alexandriavictoria1220]

I don't have schizophrenia and I'm writing a character who does, but I genuinely want to know more because I don't want to romanticize this illness. After watching your channel it really helped me understand the ins and outs of schizophrenia and I'm hoping I'm writing my charcter correctly and understanding everything right. Thank you so much for telling your stories and creating your channel in general!

[@eliorato]

I know its so extremely exaggerated but I loved the romance and the positive message in the end ;~;

[@lorenzocruz9826]

Same;-;

[@Itscorrinab]

I really enjoyed listening to your take on the movie. The only thing I will say is that they address multiple times in the movie that his family is wealthy. He wasn’t dealing with public healthcare, he was most likely in a private facility, which is why it was nicer. It also impacts the medication costs. They didn’t have money issues, and I thought they made that clear in the movie

[@laxi8305]

I hope this is a clickable title because I really LOVED this movie. Yes, it's a chick flick but it honestly made me empathise so much with people dealing with those illnesses. It brings you inside their world and to me it was great

[@Moo-fb2kb]

Did you watch her video at all? Clearly not. You saw the title, wanted to tell her she was wrong, and then leave.

[@_carrbgamingjr]

This definitely ain't a chick flick lmao

[@mentalhealthwithalana]

So disappointing they didn’t do the proper research for the movie. ☹️

[@joshhesler1127]

Was a good movie

[@audreyg1442]

Tbh it’s very hard to make a movie about a disorder like schizophrenia because it’s hard to imagine what another person is seeing or hearing.

[@chapstic593]

Maniac tvshow did iit well

[@mentalhealthwithalana]

@@chapstic593 yes!

[@shaneneave399]

I am unable to work due to physical disabilities, but also have schizoaffective disorder. It makes me so glad to be Australian. My schizophrenia med costs $6.60 ($US4.90). Same price as all my meds. But from June to the end of the year I haven’t had to pay, as I reached something called the PBS safety net.

[@mrg6185]

Same. (Uk) NHS. Get at the moment risperidone zopiclone diazepam for free.. Exemption H. What... Do they expect me to pay for meds that are goin to make me die young.. Free or nothing.. Anyway blessing Australia frm UK

[@shaneneave399]

@@mrg6185 It is great to hear you’re also able to eat, and take meds. Seems logical, also lowers healthcare costs, because we are better able to manage our own health. Less need for hospital stays.

[@carolmussotter8439]

I actually liked this movie, for the most part. Taking into account that this is a fictional Hollywood film rather than a documentary, I accept that there are sensationalized symptoms such as Charlie seeing full blown human hallucinations. A Beautiful Mind did. the same thing. It was a bit romanticized…but it’s Hollywood so I kind of got past that. I truly loved his radical self acceptance at the end of the film during his speech. While I had a problem with his making a speech in that setting, I loved that fact that he says. “I have an illness but it does not define me,” or something of that nature. It has taken me a long time to say “I am not schizoaffective…I have schizoaffective disorder,” which is a very important distinction. I also appreciate that he had such a hard time navigating his side effects from his medication and therefore stopped taking them…I’ve done that more times than I can count! The average person doesn’t understand why so many of us stop our medications…however I do wish they portrayed negative symptoms and the anosignosia so many of us suffer. I appreciate the negative feedback on the film, but tried to see the positives as well. I’d watch it again to be honest.

[@johncarmack1174]

“A slow burning dumpster fire” made me laugh so hard lol Thanks for the warning, I’ll skip this one :)

[@iheartjosi]

Nooo donttt

[@joshhesler1127]

Dude it was such a good movie. My girl and I loved it

[@maryqueenofbooks]

Believe me, it is a good movie. If a girl in KZbin says that you shouldn’t see it, you can’t just agree... it was nominated for a reason! (A very good reason)

[@hanillust]

Please don't skip it, it's such a beautiful movie. I have a mental illness too and I'm in a bad state right now but this movie is giving me hope. Just watched it an hour ago and I can't stop binging videos about it. It was very nice :)

[@priyaj5283]

I just watched it.. it was so warm and beautiful. Please don't skip it. Everybody will have openion about everything.. don't make it yours unless you experienced it. This movie really changed how i thought about schizophrenia patients..

[@LivePastHealthy]

Okay on a more light hearted note. If you want to watch a good movie just to watch a movie then this movie is great. Good acting and well produced.

[@danilopablo9848]

The time you spend watching this video could be better watching the movie first. I know that many things in the movie might be too far fetched, yet it give us the opportunity to see the condition with other eyes and empathy

[@Bryleefy]

I would suggest to people NOT to skip the film. Particularly for people who do not know a lot about the mental illness. AND particularly for countries or places in which mental illness is NOT highly regarded. This film was an eye-opener for me. May be inaccurate in most occasions but definitely an eye-opener. I guess the host was speaking on her POV or based from her real-life experience coming from a first-world country but for most parts of the world, Schizo is not in most peoples' lexicon. Its just either you are NORMAL or CRAZY. Overall, definitely and opener for mental illness as a serious matter to deal with

[@Anastasiyax]

Soooooo The argument is that they didn't do enough research to make the movie real enough with the hallucinations.... but the scene where he's tied down is "too real"? 😂 which is it? Tbh different people experience things differently. Not every schizophrenic will have delusions or have random hallucinations. I think this movie was a bitesize view into a person dealing with an illness. I also don't thing they made him special with his skills as a chef besides the fact he just did it a LOT because it quietened his mind. He wasn't some genius he just had a passion. He was a normal (albeit a little privileged) kid dealing with something really difficult. I really enjoyed it. Granted I don't have a mental illness so maybe I'm missing something. But I have interacted with people who do have schizophrenia or schizo affective disorder. Bipolar etc etc. And this was an interesting way to see into what SOME people might experience

[@dubplatekid23]

..it humanises the diagnosis, it could be worse. that said, it made me personally feel terribly down, for reasons stated. we live the reality of it daily, and nothing about it is "hollywood".

[@lvas1929]

I havn't watched the movie but I was shocked you said they actually mentioned the medications. I see your concern. Its already scary trying to take a new medicine. I hope it wasn't some marketing ploy on their end to discredit one brand while promoting another.

[@benadams3569]

It probably was a marketing ploy (hoping no one would really pick up on it).

[@Nanthecowdog]

The book mentions his medications.

[@alexandraschoonover9651]

Yeah that scene where he was tied to the bed was REALLY triggering for me as a person with bipolar I who has manic psychotic episodes. I wasn’t aware of how compartmentalized my memory of being handcuffed to a bed was until I saw that scene and then I just began sobbing. After the movie ended, I think I sobbed for another good 30 mins. Completely took me by surprise and I wish I had seen this video before I watched the movie because I really wasn’t ready to see that. I am glad I’m not the only person who felt that way about that scene.

[@MsGeminorum]

My psychosis had fully formed characters, personalities and names. I thought I had Disociative Identity Disorder , but was diagnosed with psychosis. You lose time with DID, but I was always aware of myself with my halucinations.

[@almi457]

i found this movie when i was researching about charlie plummer and i felt like i had to watch it i just finished it and i thought i was so good i was literally crying then i watched ur video and everything u say make sense idk what to feel about the movie

[@rapunbel9707]

sameee, aunque yo igual había sentido que en la película si habían caricaturizado bastante a las voces que él escuchaba, y sí el final muy típico final feliz de hollywood, pero a pesar de todo me gustó ;-;

[@niarose6435]

Same

[@maryqueenofbooks]

Well... it was a good movie, it has its mistakes, but at least it also has a message.

[@jourdannathurstin4663]

Same! I really loved this movie and it makes me feel bad sense it doesn’t really depict people w this illness :/

[@aaronolson4781]

After watching your video about this movie and reading some of the comments here i had to watch this movie, most everyone seemed to really like the movie, so i watched, and i have to agree, it was really good, i understand your issues with the movie , cuz you were asked to give your opinion on the schizophrenia aspect of the movie, and not the movie as a whole. It was never advertised as a true story, or a documentary claiming to explain what science knows about schizophrenia, if it had been i could agree with you more. In the end i really did enjoy this movie, it almost made me cry near the end. And that in itself says a lot.

[@etherraichu]

when I was hospitalized like that, my room was a decent size. coudl easily fit a bed and a desk. Id say it was bigger than my bedroom at home, but not quite as big as a one-person motel room.

[@TedEvans007]

I think that if you watched the movie before analyzing if the director did his research or watching interviews about it, you may have been more objective about it and enjoyed the movie as I did. Of course, this movie has some fictional elements as all movies do, but movies never get things exactly right and we shouldn't get lost in the technicalities. I very much enjoyed this movie and believe that it will help reduce the stigma associated with mental illness, increase awareness, understanding, and empathy for those suffering from the illness. I also liked the scene when the mother explained to her son that his illness affects everyone in the family , not just him. I would explain it like a grenade going off with shrapnel going everywhere sending everyone nearby into pain, confusion, and chaos. I am grateful that there are movies like this to help people not affected by this illness to understand a little bit more about how complicated and difficult it is for everyone involved.

[@katzlevyalon]

I was also wondering about her reaction had she not learned about the director’s lack of research ahead of time. It truly was an irresponsible move on the director and production team’s (& maybe even the actors- since I remember actors in other films talking about spending time with real people who have their character’s issues- DiCaprio in What’s Eating Gilbert Grape, as well as the mother character in that movie, come to mind..)

[@infiniteaaron]

I literally just watched this and enjoyed. Maybe not the BEST word to describe it. However, I base an enjoyment watching a movie comes from the response I get from them. I am pretty sure I have schizophrenia, on a WAY less problematic level. I felt connected in a lot of the scenes to experiences I've had in my life. I could be completely honest and say I cried and laughed during the movie (I did). It's nice to be an ENFJ, although it can be a bit stressful when the emotions of others translate (not sure if that is the correct word) to me, especially when they are not good moods/emotions. Thank you for the review. I am keeping this movie in "My Stuff" on Prime Video. It's one of the few movies I may actually watch again, to be completely fair.

[@raelaash4759]

Lauren, you have no *idea* how much I am here for the attitude.

[@h3y_itz_j4y32]

he had delusions tho, he really believed his step father was out to get him and was manipulating his mother

[@trojanincrypter]

It’s a good movie though, don’t skip it.

[@Shyguyexplores]

In my recent comments on another video put up by Lauren, a wonderful spokesperson who really should be hired by the Canadian government, I pointed out that a federal lawsuit is being filed to abolish the schizophrenia diagnosis. The lawsuit states that the present diagnosis known as schizophrenia is far too broad and tends to create more confusion than it resolves. If this lawsuit succeeds, as it rightfully should, Lauren’s schizophrenia diagnosis will be replaced by a new diagnosis called Intrusive audio disorder, or IAD for short. In fact, Lauren can begin helping to define this new diagnosis, since it will only be used for people with intrusive audio disorders, not visual hallucinations or anything concerning violence.

[@nihil8436]

The diagnostic critetia is far too broad and has a multitude of personality traits included as apparant symptoms not even hearing voices. In other words this diagnosis can be used to invalidate and dehumanise those who are merely different.

[@celesticx5263]

So I just first want to say that I don’t live with schizophrenia but I do have bi polar, and I was very interested in your video. Around 10:00 you say that they don’t really show any of the delusions, cognitive symptoms, or negative symptoms. I did think about that maybe 1.2 hours into the movie, but also, I think the point where he’s like “following the voices” per say, and he decides to take the whole bottle of medication kinda fits into that delusion aspect. He didn’t take the whole pill bottle because he was thinking in his right mind, he was just finally detached from reality and giving into the delusion that taking the whole bottle would make him better for a night. In the movies title they label him a self aware schizophrenic, and I don’t think everybody experiences symptoms the way he does in the movie, but I definitely do see SOME of the delusions and negative symptoms. I think they’re just a bit more nuanced than maybe they should have been, and definitely the director AND cast (even if Charlie did a great job) could have done their due diligence into researching what somebody with this illness goes through, but I also do think they did show most of the symptoms even if they weren’t as present as somebody living with the disease and hoping for this movie to be informative would have liked them to be.

[@EE-xw4sb]

I have very little knowledge about mental illness but seeing this movie in Netflix made me want to know more and do more research. After watching it I changed my problemaric perception of someone with Schizophrenia (violent, scary and dangerous). This movie may have shortcomings, as stated in this video, but it has reached a lot of audiences like me and the effect is positive more than negative.

[@mowsey321]

I actually really liked him, I appreciated his wit, his vulnerability and his relationship with his mom.

[@randalljaeger]

It’s going to take some time for Hollywood to get everything right in terms of a movie on mental health. It’s at least a move in the right direction. Looking forward to more movies being made..

[@Julie-ii9tl]

I think while most people with schizophrenia are not like a prodigy at something, it's inspiring that he is a really good chef and I mean it makes me feel like anyone no matter how big the struggle, can accomplish their dreams. It's just, sometimes they make it look almost too easy or as if people with schizophrenia have some sort of superpower.

[@jayaldridge4444]

i get mad when my family tells others i have scitzophrenia.

[@aaymathebest4705]

Don't be mad,you are not sczophernic ...you just have this characteristic sameckike diabetic,cancer...

[@kassandrakid9440]

❤️❤️❤️that’s a weird one. I feel you...I’d be mad too!

[@jacquelineleitch7050]

I get mad when after a lifetime of struggling against stigma and also anxiety and triggered hallucinations and doing it all while sucking it up and living a half-life, my mother keeps telling me not to tell people that I live with Schizophrenia. That is exactly why I got here . . . denial.

[@aaymathebest4705]

Don't mind...you need to show more mature behaviour and get to stable,style in your life ...you will be ok....try to start your own family....

[@aaymathebest4705]

@@jacquelineleitch7050 don't worry....just try to settle in your life....,take your medications and try to find out a good person who will understand you ,Will pick up ypur responsibility,Will love you,Will agree to accept you...take ypur medications,take help from your doctor,Don't be upset everything will be oright...also try to focus on your life...findout new ways of life...don't be upset....your mother is right...you don't need to tell anybody...I'm a mother as well....just keep it to yourself...also findout a good person for yourself.... just tell that person who will give you respect,care,protection and love....

[@KodalmaeCupcakes]

I have never had a panic attack from a movie before.. but within the first ten minutes of Words on Bathroom Walls I spiralled into a panic attack and fainted! Def would not recommend to those with anxiety or who are easily triggered.

[@ezrasanz7508]

I work at a State Hospital and I know that not everyone experience the same symptoms… and I know that not everyone feels “better “ with the same meds…

[@ayeshaharis10]

i don’t think there will ever be a movie that could truly depict any mental illness, i’m not discrediting your opinion but it’s rare to see a movie that puts a mental illness in a positive light. some parts of the movie wasn’t realistic but i guess that’s what a movie is.

[@mbaliduma1785]

I don’t care this movie is amazing I watched it 3 times… and someone who’s been in and out of psych I might not have schizophrenia but suffering from clinical depression I get it . I might not understand schizophrenia as much either but like also somethings are really just movies

[@reginaluna3497]

I don't have schizophrenia but I was very exited about this movie. I thought that it would help normalize and raise more awareness about this mental illness, and also help me learn a bit more about it. I'm so disappointed about that, but I'm glad I watched this video before watching the movie so that I don't get the wrong idea. It's so sad that Hollywood uses mental illnesses to attract more audience without actually researching about them and even romanticizing them.

[@Julie-ii9tl]

15:00 if only I could get up on a stage and go. Jeremy, the time I stopped speaking to you and completely ignored you for days, I was depressed. I have depression. And Priscilla, the time I completely ignored your ideas and wouldn't stop talking about how I'm going to be super famous, that was a manic episode. I have bipolar. And to everyone who waved to me in the hallway to which I kept walking and ignored, I have social anxiety. Like what a quick way to make up with everyone around you right? Ha. No. It doesn't work like that. Even if I were to do that, it wouldn't fix everything. It wouldn't fix even half of my problems with people. We can't fix all of our problems with people and a lot of times, people just don't get our struggles and I have to learn to be okay with that.

[@MegKampen]

If they are in a private hospital you can get out if they feel you would be better off at home and have some advocacy

[@THICCpikachu]

I loved seeing your personality more in this video. 👍

[@mindtheprivacy]

I personally loved it! It's a beautiful piece of art, amazing acting from the protagonists. Why trash on that. I've been seen anything like it, not only the special effects, bit the acting, the interactions. I teared up many times. I love how they finally portrayed a respectful teenager, with a good relationship with his mom, respectable in school, sweet and tender. The relationship with the Father is beautiful! It shows values, which are lacking in today's movies and society! It shows Love!!!! Maternal, romantic, fatherly, it shows forgiveness, repentance, naivete. It is beautiful! PEOPLE GO WATCH IT.

[@RaysDad]

The popcorn at movie theaters is so much better than what I manage to make at home. How do they do it? Is it the oil? Or the salt?

[@katarzynazofia]

I'd be guessing it's the butter.

[@MsBublz237]

I heard they cook the popcorn in coconut oil

[@WaitingtoHit]

Few things are as satisfying as a well-deserved scathing review. "Yo, high-school class, I'm really happy for you. Imma let you finish, but I have one of the best cases of schizophrenia of all time! One of the best cases of all time!"

[@moonlitet]

This is my favorite movie and my favorite actor.

[@games_bond7221]

I personally don't have schizophrenia (I have other disorders), but I found the movie very good. I also didn't find the psych ward unbelievable at all. I have been in one as a minor and as long as parents gave consent, you could be discharged. I saw a kid get discharged despite not doing well, because she wanted to leave and her parents agreed. I've also met a few people with schizophrenia and all of them had recurring characters in their hallucinations. To each their own opinion, but to me it's really not that tragic of a movie. It sheds light on the disorder and sends out a good message that with support you can still lead a happy life, and that mentally ill people shouldn't be outcasts. I also strongly disagree with the lack of delusions, because if you paid attention throughout the movie, you would've noticed Adam was highly paranoid of his stepdad the whole time, thinking he wanted to lock him up, thinking he was destroying the family. It was subtle but it was there.

[@Anonymous-ng4wc]

I don’t have schizophrenia and I don’t know much about it, but I found this movie incredible. It actually might be my new favorite. I really enjoyed the fact that it depicted schizophrenia in a positive light rather that the stereotype of a violent, demented madman. When I saw the hallucinations “glitching out” the moment he took the pill, I was pretty skeptical though. I figured that had to be because they didn’t want to spend too much time waiting for the meds to kick in. I did think it was a great story though and I really like the characters. I thought it was great that they worked to normalize schizophrenia, even though they did romanticize it a bit. Overall I really loved the movie and you did a fantastic review of it!

[@minervamorgenstern]

You brought up some valid points. I've never seen the movie but when I saw the trailer, I was at first excited, but then the more trailers I saw, the more wary I grew. I'm glad you put this out there. It's good to know that I'm not alone in my feelings.

[@layla6625]

I mean the thing with a beautiful mind and the genius trope is that its based on a true story. John Nash was an incredibly intelligent person and that was who the story was about, yk?

[@frmrchristian303]

There's a great book that deals with this topic called "THIS MUCH I KNOW IS TRUE". HBO is actually airing a six episode series (starring Mark Ruffalo) based on the book.

[@necrometermusician]

I liked A Beautiful Mind, even though it wasn't accurate. I have no plans to watch this movie you're talking about. This is the first I'm hearing about it. As a musician, I've been guilty of glamorizing my illness, but I guess it helps me to look at it as not so bad maybe? I've also made it public knowledge that I have schizophrenia. I'm kind of okay with that, but in hindsight, it may not have been one of my better ideas. Anyway, I like your channel a lot. Keep up the good work.

[@stoneyvowell1239]

I went ahead and rented it last night from Redbox. I thought it was a really good movie. I can kind of understand some of the criticism but all in all if you're trying to break the stigma that seems like that's going to be a good movie for it. I liked it a lot better than a beautiful mind. It covered a very general experience that covered most the Spectrum and very relatable to a good portion of my experience

[@frankycortes6870]

There is a movie from Diana Ross called "Out of Darkness". Its about a woman suffering from schizophrenia eventually begins to recover after taking a new medication. Its a depressing movie, but very realistic as well. I highly recommend this movie. Please watch it and give me your opinion about it.

[@MrSoldierperson]

Never heard of this movie until this video.

[@amyba1993]

I just saw this movie and honestly, everyone has a different perspective on this. I saw it in a positive way. He found people that support him and see him as the person he is not an illness. I felt the message behind it was a great idea and it captured my attention

[@tendresexton4957]

Medication takes up to two weeks. We can't watch a movie for two weeks to wait for his symptoms to become less frequent

[@robertbricker]

When I first heard of this movie I thought it was a horror movie. Disappointing that it was supposed to be an actual depiction of somebody with this mental illness. You would think they would take time to try to accurately portray it - Just about the first thing an actor would do, right? There is a young woman on KZbin who reports on her life with schizophrenia and who does have the experience of a regular character who is in her field of vision most of the time as a visual hallucination. A scary red and white clown character. I’m not sure if that’s what you meant in terms of people not experiencing an individual characters repeatedly and on an ongoing basis but I thought I would mention this as a possible example. Thanks for all your sharing and brave work.

[@jmk1962]

Interesting comments on this movie. Seems like a lot of people related to it and liked it. I've not seen it so have no opinion either way. Good point about naming meds that didn't work for him, that's a bit irresponsible of the directors IMO.

[@deirdrejones5974]

I don’t have an opinion, haven’t seen it, just wanted to say you have guts to put yourself out there. The negative comments are like High School on steroids. Critique is supposed to encourage discussion, and I think you accomplished this.

[@Dunybrook]

Thinking you can tell other people's stories when you have no idea what it's really like to be them.

[@dogtrainer4645]

I just watched this movie and really enjoyed it. I know some of the points she's making were dramatized for the movie. Like the last med working right away. He'd been taking it for a while, btw. I think most people who've taken a medication for a long-term condition know it doesn't work the minute you swallow the pill. This wasn't a documentary. It was a drama romance. If it's not also entertaining, it won't be seen at all. I think the criticisms were too harsh.

[@komalavantica6257]

I loved the movie, no matter what

[@sarahfletcher9609]

Lauren, Love your sense of humour when it comes out in videos!

[@davidhowe3257]

I'm so thankful for this channel

[@mariahmelton2543]

I have like a recurring person who follows me with my schizophrenia.

[@gracemadisonfr]

Lol when your in a psyc ward you can't just up and leave

[@etbadaboum]

Have you read The Center Cannot Hold by Elyn Saks? Seems like a very good book. A video could be a made out of it!

[@alfredopichardo273]

Creo que esperas demasiado de las peliculas. Al final solo son la interpretación de una persona de alguna situación. No son servicios a la comunidad. Esperar que todo el mundo sea consultado y que todo el mundo sea representado al mismo tiempo es poco realista. El que no pase, tampoco hace que la historia este mal hecha. Parece que solo te molesta que no te hayan preguntado tu opinión para hacer la película

[@BeneathFullMoon]

I'm not schizophrenic, I'm autistic, but I related to some parts of his mental health journey and of his struggles, even if they come from different symptoms. With every single autistic character in media, there will be autistic people who personally relate to them, and others who don't and think of them as awful representations. Maybe this is one of those cases, since every other schizophrenic person I met online said they personally liked the movie, and could relate at least to certain aspects of it. That being said, it IS objectively bad that the writer of the book and the director didn't do a more in-depth research. It's a huge responsibility to represent someone who is already stigmatized, and mentally ill people have been hurt time and time again by media made about them.

[@tempestjuji]

I love your videos, but isn't this supposed to be just a movie.. I think most of the people that watched it can understand that not everything will be the totally correctly portrayed.. I don't think this was meant to be a documentary.. It's interesting to hear your opinion on this though!

[@tendresexton4957]

No they were trying to give viewers a representation of what someone with schizophrenia goes through. Nothing to do with identity disorder. What I have. But his thoughts of his step father being against him is that not a delusion?