Working of Dual Clutch Transmission (DSG)

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Lesics

Lesics

7 жыл бұрын

DCTs (DSG) technology has gained a substantial market share in the recent times ( up from 3.4% to 8.5% market share in the last 5 years). This video illustrates with the help of animation why DCTs are the best transmission ever. This video also gives a brief introduction on working and drawbacks of a regular manual transmission.
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@BboyRagnar0us
@BboyRagnar0us 7 жыл бұрын
I swear transmissions are the hardest car component to understand! I've watched all engineering videos that explain it yet it is the only thing I fail to comprehend!
@Allancastro90
@Allancastro90 7 жыл бұрын
Makes two of us
@markg7030
@markg7030 7 жыл бұрын
Keep watching different videos including some that use real transmission parts. The automatic trans is the most difficult to understand. I just learned something on this video, the dual clutch type trans may use more gas because the engine is spinning shafts and gears in 2 transmissions.
@elr2141979
@elr2141979 7 жыл бұрын
there's only one thing you need to understand it works.
@GReaper
@GReaper 7 жыл бұрын
elr2141979 It allows your engine to move your car.... But how? lol
@ripbozolol1
@ripbozolol1 7 жыл бұрын
the only one im still trying to get is automatic but im all good on the rest☺
@mgray2418
@mgray2418 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the minds behind this stuff!
@nwabuezeozuzu6370
@nwabuezeozuzu6370 3 жыл бұрын
The inventors and the animators are awesome!
@skip_khan248
@skip_khan248 3 жыл бұрын
Don't tell me... just Àwè§ømē
@strygwr
@strygwr 3 жыл бұрын
its all trial n error
@IvanIvanov-uw4yx
@IvanIvanov-uw4yx 3 жыл бұрын
believe me or not, I'm not a car guy and i was theorizing why don't they use something like that in cars already with a friend of mine, and he brought me here. I literally invented something that already exists.
@supersabrosinho
@supersabrosinho 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a design engineer for a 2nd tier auto supplier. Believe it or not, the minds behind this stuff are regular minds like yours! Anyone can do this. Realize that the fundamental physics that these transmissions are based on were invented 100 years ago! It took thousands of people, many years, and many failures to get to this final design
@nwabuezeozuzu6370
@nwabuezeozuzu6370 5 жыл бұрын
These animations really help with understanding how vehicle transmission works.
@SpaceMissile
@SpaceMissile Жыл бұрын
they are some top-tier animations.
@Lesics
@Lesics 7 жыл бұрын
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@evoegtlen
@evoegtlen 7 жыл бұрын
Extremely intuitive! I am always looking forward to your videos. Will definitely be contributing to this channels growth - keep it up. Thank you!
@Lesics
@Lesics 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support !
@ahmadissa8663
@ahmadissa8663 7 жыл бұрын
شكرا لك جميل جدا
@anasnasihin3346
@anasnasihin3346 7 жыл бұрын
keep it up, i love your video
@1001speedster
@1001speedster 7 жыл бұрын
Keep it up you guys!! Love your videos!!!
@dennisneo1608
@dennisneo1608 3 жыл бұрын
I can watch all day and still not understand how this is possible
@supersabrosinho
@supersabrosinho 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. It's essentially two transmissions alternating power duty. If you've ever seen those old school lumberjacks alternating their saw cuts it's kind of like that
@richardslav9282
@richardslav9282 3 жыл бұрын
,,Even if your vehicle is moving forward, as long as the vehicle speed is low, you can still engage the reverse gear” *shifts from 5th gear directly to reverse*
@xxoan.1613
@xxoan.1613 2 жыл бұрын
brakes? never heard of 'em
@karlmdennis
@karlmdennis 2 жыл бұрын
The mechanic told me it was a three hour job to remove the gearbox, I guess I showed him!
@andrikharismawibawa4245
@andrikharismawibawa4245 2 жыл бұрын
R is not Reverse R hear is Racing Gear
@Akotski-ys9rr
@Akotski-ys9rr Жыл бұрын
I need to try this in my car at low speed of course
@richardslav9282
@richardslav9282 Жыл бұрын
@@Akotski-ys9rr let us know after how it turned out
@synthwave7
@synthwave7 2 жыл бұрын
The best animation - Just purchased a new VW Polo DSG car and wow - the DSG is super smooth - I doubt I will ever go back to a normal automatic gearbox.
@SethCocker05
@SethCocker05 3 жыл бұрын
I love the roughness of being in a manual transmission car. Feeling the sudden lurch forwards as the clutch is pressed and power to the wheels is lost, and I think moving the gear stick around is a lot more fun than just pressing a paddle. Though practicality wise this dct is better.
@MrTayfunsuren
@MrTayfunsuren 2 жыл бұрын
Thats you ..but for most people cars are just a tool for transportation and noting more.
@Payayaso
@Payayaso 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTayfunsuren nah there's alot of people who think the same as him goofy
@DuhShazey
@DuhShazey Жыл бұрын
@@MrTayfunsuren seems like you are just a boring person. And gonna disappoint the wife when you have to take your oil in to get it changed!
@ashjose7973
@ashjose7973 Жыл бұрын
@@Payayaso that's me
@ashjose7973
@ashjose7973 Жыл бұрын
@@MrTayfunsuren if the roads aren't the best and you have different types of situations, manual works best
@FlumenSanctiViti
@FlumenSanctiViti 7 жыл бұрын
Videos from this channel are probably the best on YT to visually explain how transmissions work. Kudos!
@Ghandara-hg1gc
@Ghandara-hg1gc 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. After watching it 4 times, I think I understand how this works completely now.
@MrBitemeidareya
@MrBitemeidareya 7 жыл бұрын
With Skills USA coming up for my auto program I have been watching these videos to try to understand what I don't understand so that I can do well and it really helps, great job in every video
@goata007
@goata007 2 жыл бұрын
Had this in my 5-series, best transmission ever...gear changes are instantaneous and acceleration is amazing.
@Has7DCT
@Has7DCT Жыл бұрын
5-series has a DCT? You mean M5?
@goata007
@goata007 Жыл бұрын
@@Has7DCT yes G30 5-series has 7-speed DSG (dual clutch transmission)
@Has7DCT
@Has7DCT Жыл бұрын
@@goata007 hell no I thought they were only ZF 8-speed torque converter ?? The only 5er I know with the DCT was the F10 M5. Something's off here
@goata007
@goata007 Жыл бұрын
@@Has7DCT You’re right, its ZF 8-speed auto, somehow i got it mixed up. But it changes gears so fast in sport mode, feels like DCT
@Has7DCT
@Has7DCT Жыл бұрын
@@goata007 can definitely agree with that. These ZF's are catching up with the DCT's lightning quick shifts but also silky smooth at low speeds (doesn't jerk like a DCT at all)
@wvsky
@wvsky 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I purchased a new Kona and it has this transmission that I had never heard of before. Now I know at least a little more about it.
@shelory
@shelory 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, for the first time I think I understand how the transmission works! I've tried to understand but never quite got it until now, thanks!
@staninjapan07
@staninjapan07 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great video. Concise but with as much info as necessary to understand the idea. Good animation and not too much technical jargon. Thank you.
@mythreepants
@mythreepants 7 жыл бұрын
By far the best explanation of transmissions I have ever seen
@Mark-hu9tf
@Mark-hu9tf 4 жыл бұрын
Had a DSG on an Audi TT mk 1 3.2 and loved it.
@demosteneneacsiu6144
@demosteneneacsiu6144 7 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of a dct I've seen, keep it up!
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of something I have long wondered about, simpler than I imagined.
@harrygujral87
@harrygujral87 4 жыл бұрын
excellent explanation for the DCT. Graphics used clear all your doubts related to the concept.
@dagaspar6
@dagaspar6 7 жыл бұрын
The ingenuity of this is amazing!
@igorperfeitovivo
@igorperfeitovivo 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks for making this great content for us!
@wallebo
@wallebo 2 күн бұрын
Excellently explained. It makes it appear very logical for sure.
@SpaceMissile
@SpaceMissile Жыл бұрын
this is a _fantastic_ video. very well-explained and in just over 6 minutes, too.
@davevil7573
@davevil7573 7 жыл бұрын
Another benefit of dsg transmissions is that if you have turbo, the turbo holds through the shift rather than in an automatic, it cuts off at each shift, making for smoother and faster shifts and acceleration
@stuartcareless9550
@stuartcareless9550 5 жыл бұрын
@Gibbon what do you think on these on the VW transporters stay away or buy with dsg ????
@manslotird
@manslotird 5 жыл бұрын
Dave Vil automatics hold boost through shifts. You’re thinking manual trans don’t hold boost cause you let off the gas to change gears
@jansteen5640
@jansteen5640 5 жыл бұрын
@@manslotird Not saying this is normal but in theory you can shift your manual while foot to the floor on the gas.
@ipo7596
@ipo7596 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry bro I don't follow. Can you explain further? If my understanding is right based on your comment, basically turbos do not drop and spool again after each shift? Is that what I think it is? No lag? Anti-lag? Correct me if I'm wrong please I wanna understand.
@ijustwant2lookatvids
@ijustwant2lookatvids 3 жыл бұрын
Manual transmissions lose boost on gear changes. Automatics, DCT, or torque converter equipped ones do not. With a manual transmission you let off the accelerator, and wait for the R.P.M. to drop before engaging the next gear when accelerating.
@laughy38247357075834
@laughy38247357075834 7 жыл бұрын
very clever design.
@Backtrack3332
@Backtrack3332 3 жыл бұрын
Simpler than I thought. Thank you for the video.
@MrBiky
@MrBiky 7 жыл бұрын
I cannot leave without pressing that appreciation button. The video about automatic transmission was over my head, but DCT seems awesome (and it is !). Thanks for the explanation.
@MrBiky
@MrBiky 7 жыл бұрын
Although not as great as an 1 gear electric car transmission (Tesla)
@viraj203
@viraj203 7 жыл бұрын
Complex mechanism explained in such a simplified manner ..amazing experience for newbies to understand
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 7 жыл бұрын
I totally understand a manual transmission but once the second one was introduced in conjunction with the first one, I totally lost it. Damn that's alot of gears!
@hackleberrym
@hackleberrym 7 жыл бұрын
Then go and watch a video on automatic transmision. it's totally mindblowing. (at least for me)
@joevignolor4u949
@joevignolor4u949 7 жыл бұрын
It's basically two standard transmissions with two clutches running in parallel and connected to the same differential that drive the front wheels.
@franciscovessani6720
@franciscovessani6720 6 жыл бұрын
The first one can run loose if red clutch is released and green pressed. And vice versa
@HelloKittyFanMan..
@HelloKittyFanMan.. 6 жыл бұрын
Well, Mical, a video of a planetary automatic, vs. this kind of automatic.
@mvmcali6900
@mvmcali6900 3 жыл бұрын
I think its important to see that there are 2 concentric shafts (on top). either one or the other gets power from the engine (left side) depending on which of the 2 clutch plates is engages (you can see them as left and right on the top left of the animation
@sanjaysinghbisht2556
@sanjaysinghbisht2556 7 жыл бұрын
your videos are very descriptive... very easy to understand along with the animation...
@parthasarathikhamaru731
@parthasarathikhamaru731 3 жыл бұрын
Great !!! 👌👌👌 Thank you the entire team.
@Cars701
@Cars701 5 жыл бұрын
This man needs to be the voice of an AI, GPS, or something.
@Mo.Jo.
@Mo.Jo. 2 жыл бұрын
Loving my acura/honda designed 8 speed DCT with torque converter. I've had regular automatic and cvt in the past and they've been fine. Next up I plan to get my very first manual in a year.
@Leandro7470
@Leandro7470 Ай бұрын
Did you got the manual? I learned on manual trannnies, have driven regular torque converter automatics that you can kinda select your gear by how much you press the pedal, I just got a dual clutch auto and i DO miss manuals, until the computer realize what i want from it i could have just downshifted, reved it up and had instant power on a lower gear or skiped a gear or two if i had enough speed to just keep it rolling, cant really do that OR I have to get used to the car behavior
@aronpanrucker3155
@aronpanrucker3155 6 жыл бұрын
legit the best video i have ever seen on explaining and showing how gearboxes work ( before watching this i had a simple understanding of how each type worked but after watching this i have a much deeper understanding of how it all works
@eaglezyb
@eaglezyb 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this excellent videos... it helped a lot!!!
@veritas1073
@veritas1073 7 жыл бұрын
Now I know why manual transmissions are the best! Thank you!
@-j.r9967
@-j.r9967 2 жыл бұрын
Because you need 2 of them to be better than a normal automatic?
@geralt36
@geralt36 Жыл бұрын
@@-j.r9967 No, because manuals give you more control over your car's acceleration, i.e., you get to choose your gear and thus, be in the right gear at the right time. And they are more engaging and fun to drive.
@-j.r9967
@-j.r9967 Жыл бұрын
@Geralt most cars let you select your gear the same way. My beater from 02 has it even. Same amount of control. I get the engaging thing but I have just as much fun in autos as I do manuals lol
@-j.r9967
@-j.r9967 Жыл бұрын
@@geralt36 I mean all in all it's all opinion anyways, but there's a reason manual transmissions are going extinct lol
@geralt36
@geralt36 Жыл бұрын
@@-j.r9967 Going extinct you say. Is that why Toyota is coming out with its new GR Corolla which is only available in manual? Toyota also made the supra which previously only came with a DCT available in a manual for 2023. Then there's other only manual cars like Civic Type R, Civic SI, etc. Lexus is also working on an EV that's going to have a manual trans. Why do you think these car manufacturers are making manuals? Because there's demand for them and people want to keep them alive. As long as there's a demand they will keep making them. No matter how niche the market is.
@zpetar
@zpetar 6 жыл бұрын
DCT works great in performance vehicles where its easy to predict for computer which gear is next. When you hit full throttle computer expects next gear will be up shift, when you hit breaks computer expects next gear will be down shift. But for every day use it is horrible. There is no way for computer to predict next gear in crowded streets or in traffic jam when cars are crawling.
@flipgurujn
@flipgurujn 5 жыл бұрын
Dsg these days are quite smooth. First gear is a tad jerky, but it's really not noticeable.
@scottunger8585
@scottunger8585 5 жыл бұрын
The DCT used in the Ford Focus and Fiesta appears to be a poor design. Many law suits resulted , I had a Focus, it was reprogrammed several times in the three years I owned it. It was a very poor shifting car in the daily stop and go seemingly it could not determine how to compensate for short stop and go situations. There is a class action against it now, happy to be rid of the Focus, some days the program would crash and the car wouldn’t move.
@Noobletti
@Noobletti 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know what car you have driven, but the ones i have, i dont feel the shifts at anypoint. Not in higway or in traffic.
@jacintarene_
@jacintarene_ 4 жыл бұрын
1st to 2nd is the most obvious change by far, but from 2 onwards they becoming exponentially less noticeable in terms of changing gears. But yeah In crawling speed traffic it gets a little confused on whether you’re going up a gear or down, but I’ve learned to find the sweet spot in 2nd or in 3rd to keep it steady. If you can’t drive with a consistent speed and you keep having to brake then you’re gunna have a jerky drive. Learn to crawl at a constant speed
@DzekoTV401
@DzekoTV401 2 жыл бұрын
Got DSG in my 2019Golf R and it shifts fast and smooth just love it 😊
@ganewatthe
@ganewatthe 7 жыл бұрын
A very good video explaining DCT. Thank you.
@Lesics
@Lesics 7 жыл бұрын
Dear friends, DCTs (DSG) technology is a promising technology( up from 3.4% to 8.5% market share in the last 5 years). We thank our patrons for suggesting this topic. We thank our current patrons for saving LE from death. To achieve our goal of 2 video release/ month (addition of one more team member), please support us at Patreon. www.patreon.com/LearnEngineering
@evoegtlen
@evoegtlen 7 жыл бұрын
Keeping with the theme of automobiles, could you do an episode on vibrations of spring/damper combination? Another suggestion - photovoltaics?
@Lesics
@Lesics 7 жыл бұрын
Was the first suggestion same as automobile suspension ? We will definitely make a video on PV cells. However it will take sometime.
@TransTaey
@TransTaey 7 жыл бұрын
Having rented a Hyundai Veloster which has DCT, I can say I thoroughly enjoyed having that tech.
@jesusf.2600
@jesusf.2600 6 жыл бұрын
graciousAnomaly Did the way you drive from a regular Automatic have to get altered 8n any way? Thanks.
@user-po6hn9id1t
@user-po6hn9id1t 6 жыл бұрын
Learn Engineering Valvetronic on the next video please
@Anaerin
@Anaerin 7 жыл бұрын
I know there were some companies (Citroen, for instance) that had a semi-automatic gearbox - It was a manual box with a torque converter.
@Sparkles1290
@Sparkles1290 3 жыл бұрын
does anyone know why can't automatics just be a torque converter next to a normal manual thing but the gears are changed by a robot?
@rayoflight62
@rayoflight62 2 жыл бұрын
You're right. A simple hydraulic actuator could replace stock shifting. The automotive industry is the one of most resistant to change. Tesla cars had a 12 V lead acid battery to power all the accessories until few years ago. Allison's has the de facto Monopoly in automatic transmissions, Bosch its own on ABS brakes, you can have your own if you design, build and patent a stick-shifter.
@vindieu
@vindieu 3 жыл бұрын
this video is fantastic. understood everything very clearly now. thanks
@timothysinclair3670
@timothysinclair3670 6 жыл бұрын
Beautifully clear video!
@MD-wq6on
@MD-wq6on 7 жыл бұрын
I still like the good old stick shift (manual) transmissions best. I could care less about smoothness of shifting, or that one more mile per gallon you might be able to achieve with a DCT. Fact remains for me is that I have driven many different cars in my life and have never had any problems with a manual trans., nor have I ever had to replace a clutch. The most miles I have driven in a manual has been almost 200K with not the hint of a problem in a stick. Automatics a completely different story.
@russcattell955i
@russcattell955i 7 жыл бұрын
I agree Michael, in my more than 40 years on the road with everything from bikes to 44t trucks, I have had 3 clutches changed, I put a new pack in my rally car when built, had to do 1 change in 4 years of competition. Then 1 in a road car because my mechanic (brother) had a unwanted (free) pack on the shelf. My wife had 1 change on her Ford because in it's early life was a city car & most likely a clutch riding owner. I have no idea the cost of a DSG clutch pack replacement, but I suspect it beats any laxative.
@jesusf.2600
@jesusf.2600 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Duke Dude my 3 Hondas are all Automatics and they range in milage between 184-236,000+ miles.
@ToastyClam
@ToastyClam 7 жыл бұрын
Do one on a sequential gearbox!
@loVeRboIiI777
@loVeRboIiI777 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful explanation! Thanks alot !
@anandkvinu2832
@anandkvinu2832 7 жыл бұрын
thanks LE team.. i clearly understood the DCT... no doubts at all.... thanks
@omialmanza1900
@omialmanza1900 4 жыл бұрын
Honesty dont care about speed or fuel economy i'll always drive a manual👍just for the feeling of being in full control and fun not just driving.
@daniellentz4335
@daniellentz4335 4 жыл бұрын
Both of these transmissions are manual... That last bit is only a comparison of cons of automatic and benefits of DCT, but everything else is comparing regular manual to DCT manual.
@omialmanza1900
@omialmanza1900 4 жыл бұрын
@@daniellentz4335 true, 👍was just my opinion.
@BaNuj
@BaNuj 7 жыл бұрын
Humans have incredible sense and imagination. Great!
@Money4Nothing
@Money4Nothing 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks LE!
@mariovelez578
@mariovelez578 7 жыл бұрын
wow, what a piece of art!
@OatmealDonk
@OatmealDonk 7 жыл бұрын
I thought you were talking about a girl when you said "saving Ellie from death"... not "LE". :-P
@Xilver_
@Xilver_ 7 жыл бұрын
James Ray lmao that's what I heard
@Chris-wj4ze
@Chris-wj4ze 6 жыл бұрын
omg
@gusfringonlyfans
@gusfringonlyfans 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@MattJesuele
@MattJesuele 4 жыл бұрын
lmao yep
@downey2294
@downey2294 4 жыл бұрын
i was reading the subtitles and it does say "Ellie" instead of "LE" only realized it was meant to be LE by reading your comment.
@Eric_D_6
@Eric_D_6 7 жыл бұрын
Smooth, must be talking about them rich man autos
@Bunnysinger
@Bunnysinger 7 жыл бұрын
No, DCT's can be found in cheaper cars nowadays.
@Eric_D_6
@Eric_D_6 7 жыл бұрын
Wladyslaw Szpilman read the first word
@doodskie999
@doodskie999 7 жыл бұрын
hyundai accent and some kia models, ford ecosport and ford fiesta and many more
@Eric_D_6
@Eric_D_6 7 жыл бұрын
doodskie999 I'm pretty sure those are all CVT or even conventioanl auto, not DCT. Of course CVT are smooth and the tourque converter can smooth out a lot of the conventional but the cheap DCTs don't tend to be smooth at all.
@Bunnysinger
@Bunnysinger 7 жыл бұрын
Eric D I've driven an A3 with DCT and it's pretty smooth...
@user-ew7kw7fc5o
@user-ew7kw7fc5o 2 жыл бұрын
This video help me for understanding my VW golf’s dsg. Thanks for sharing this video👍👍 👍
@MarkJeanmougin
@MarkJeanmougin 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video!
@cthulhu674
@cthulhu674 7 жыл бұрын
could you make a video explaining common transmission failures ie. overgeating, slipping ect. thank you.
@numbatkeller
@numbatkeller 7 жыл бұрын
DSG stands for Direktschaltgetriebe which is german for "direct shift transmission".
@tankpenguin175
@tankpenguin175 7 жыл бұрын
numbatkeller Ich dachte es heißt Doppelschaltgetriebe
@yeongvinsheng7639
@yeongvinsheng7639 6 жыл бұрын
It's direct shift gearbox
@V4YGR3
@V4YGR3 5 жыл бұрын
7 speed wasnt a succes... but why...
@skip_khan248
@skip_khan248 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Now DCT is clear to me :)
@user-gf6ib3bf5w
@user-gf6ib3bf5w 6 жыл бұрын
great explanation. THANKS A LOT
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 7 жыл бұрын
DCTs biggest issue is low speed clunkiness and overall cost. but oh man at WOT they shift fast.
@matttl903
@matttl903 5 жыл бұрын
@WalkinOSF the car will be pretty jerky in stop and go traffic, mostly due to clutch slip and engine braking
@flipgurujn
@flipgurujn 5 жыл бұрын
I drove my friends 2010 Audi A3 and yeah....I do believe he had an early generation of the dsg and it was a bit clunky on 1st gear. I drive a 2018 A3 and it drives smoother. A tad jerky on 1st gear, but it's really hard to notice.
@RageUnchained
@RageUnchained 5 жыл бұрын
DCTs have their own problems look at the 2015-17 ford fiesta. Ford didnt put any vents in the bellhousing and so the damn clutch plates get so hot that firstly it feels like driving with a student driver in a manual trans, and secondly the plates tend to overheat and burn up every 30k because the lack of venting or air cooling for the bell housings
@awlonghurst
@awlonghurst 5 жыл бұрын
Mines got 44K and it's fine. I think it's unlikely that VW would get away with selling millions of cars that needed new clutches at 33K. The DQ200 transmission in my car has an overheat warning and will shutdown the engine if necessary. It never has and I've never seen the warning light lit. DCTs can overheat if allowed to creep at slow speeds as if one was driving a torque converter automatic transmission, because it's basically continuously slipping the clutch, which overheats the friction material. It's worth avoiding doing that, just the same as one would in a manual transmission. I think this might be some of the reason for the lack of popularity of DCTs in the US and in fact I heard that Audi stopped selling them there as customers preferred torque converter autos. Automatic transmissions are much less common this side of the pond so drivers are less like to treat DCT gearboxes like torque converter transmissions and thus possibly less likely to encounter this issue with overheating.
@skyportal
@skyportal 5 жыл бұрын
2012 and up, but exactly!! focus and fiesta. transmission shudder!!
@789pokey
@789pokey 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that Ford auto is a disgrace.
@asankakarawita3500
@asankakarawita3500 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect video....keep this thing up..LEBest of luck
@mahxylim7983
@mahxylim7983 6 жыл бұрын
Love these series
@jrnascimento1448
@jrnascimento1448 7 жыл бұрын
I'll make my best to help you as soon as I can. It's amazing the things I learned watching your videos. Just one question: What mechanism change the gears? Cheers:)
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 7 жыл бұрын
the hand shifter? probably can find diagrams of it
@Lesics
@Lesics 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support. The sliding of sleeves and clutch activation result in different gears.
@joevignolor4u949
@joevignolor4u949 7 жыл бұрын
The Ford DTC uses two electric motors to shift the gears - one computer controlled motor for each gear set. Basically for each of the two gear sets there is a round wheel inside the gearbox that has a channel machined into its circumference. The channel is cut to form detents, which look like two ramps going in opposite directions with flat spots in between (you kind of have to see it). When the wheel is rotated by the electric motors the ramps push the shift forks back and forth. Also, the dual clutches are engaged and released by clutch forks that are moved in and out by two electric motors.
@Nexusmaster777
@Nexusmaster777 7 жыл бұрын
How does a computer determine which sleeves to engage? Say if i need to shift 3-4-3 and not 3-4-5?
@joevignolor4u949
@joevignolor4u949 7 жыл бұрын
First, one countershaft is for gears 1-3-5 and the other countershaft is for gears 2-4-6. Plus there are the two separate clutches - one for each countershaft. In total there are four electric motors involved - two for the two countershafts and the two for the two clutches. All four motors are run back and forth under the command of the transmission control computer. The four motors are all stepping motors, which can rotate incrementally back and forth under computer control to provide precise position control. The computer also has several sensor inputs: vehicle speed, brake pedal position, throttle pedal position, gearshift position, engine RPM, and I think they also have an accelerometer in there to measure instantaneous acceleration. The exact way the software algorithms in the transmission controller make decisions and control the transmission are quite complex and the engineers that designed everything are probably the only ones that know exactly how it all works. But by reading the tech manuals, by observation and by driving one of these vehicles this is basically how it works: When you go from Park to Drive with your foot on the brake you don't feel anything at first (no "clunk" like with a conventional automatic transmission). At this point the first gearset is engaged for 1st gear, but with the brake applied the clutches initially stay disengaged. Then when you let your foot off the brake without touching the gas one of the two clutches will start to engage lightly to make the vehicle start to crawl forward. Then if the driver steps on the gas and raises the engine RPM the clutch will continue to engage to accelerate the vehicle in 1st gear. While the vehicle is accelerating in 1st gear the other un-driven shaft will switch into 2nd gear to get ready ahead of time for the next upshift. At the proper vehicle speed and engine RPM the first clutch will disengage while the second one engages to upshift into 2nd gear. This alternation will continue back and forth up through gears 3,4,5 and 6 until the vehicle reaches the desired cruising speed. To answer your original question the controller has to decide whether the vehicle is currently accelerating or decelerating to decide what to do next. It does that by looking at the current trend in vehicle speed, current acceleration and of course the throttle position. For example if the throttle is 3/4 open and the vehicle is accelerating the controller will sequentially keep upshifting the transmission up through the gears until it gets to 6th gear. Then if the vehicle is cruising at say 40 MPH and the driver floors the gas pedal the transmission may decide to downshift to a lower gear to assist the engine. Then once the vehicle speed comes up and the driver lets off the throttle the transmission will then upshift back up to 6th gear again. Then finally if the driver wants to stop and removes his foot from the gas pedal and steps on the brake, which will cause the vehicle to start decelerating, then the controller will simultaneously disengage both clutches while it also starts downshifting the transmission back down towards 1st gear again to be ready for the next time the vehicle has to start moving and/or speed up again.
@HiddenWindshield
@HiddenWindshield 7 жыл бұрын
I've noticed an error in this video. You say that normal manual transmissions never have synchronizers on the reverse gear. This is not true, some of them do. I know this because I happen to own a manual-transmission car with a synchronized reverse. You also say that all DCTs *do* have a synchronized reverse, but that's not necessarily true, as DCTs can operate without it just as well as a regular manual transmission.
@HafizAzmi
@HafizAzmi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video, easy to be understand...
@spontanp
@spontanp 10 ай бұрын
I loved DSG in my 2004 Audi A3 3.2 V6 Quattro. It was smooth as a butter and decently fast.
@flylikealbatross7441
@flylikealbatross7441 6 жыл бұрын
Lol. BMW with FWD :D But the rest of the video is very nice!
@Tomyb15
@Tomyb15 7 жыл бұрын
how is the smoothness compared to a cvt? and efficiency?
@Lesics
@Lesics 7 жыл бұрын
CVT is a stepless transmission. No technology can beat CVT in terms of smoothness.
@Tomyb15
@Tomyb15 7 жыл бұрын
+Learn Engineering and what about efficiency? is the cvt more inefficient than a dct? (and if so, is the difference important or next to nothing?) because I do not remember seeing a torque converter in your video about cvt. btw, I really enjoy your videos. I look forward for more!
@parthpatels007
@parthpatels007 7 жыл бұрын
I guess the CVT will be more efficient due to its infinite set of gear ratios. There might be other factors that I'm missing though.
@TUNDRA2529
@TUNDRA2529 7 жыл бұрын
CVTs are more efficient at holding a speed since it always can choose the optimum gear ratio for that speed; however, they have a limited range of gears so high speeds might not benefit (think of it having any real number between 2-6), also they weigh more than automatics which reduces overall efficiency. They also lose some energy due to slipping of the continuous converter. Overall: CVTs weight, slip, and limited gear range are disadvantages while its ability for close to infinite (technically only 1000s) gears inside that range is an advantage. They are improving materials to counter the weight, slip, wear, and gear range problems. That is why they are suddenly becoming popular.
@ludwigharisuo6261
@ludwigharisuo6261 7 жыл бұрын
I guess it depends on how much torque the transmission control unit needs to change the gap between the sides of the pulleys.
@zaneverovati
@zaneverovati 3 жыл бұрын
The DSG on my Skoda Octavia 1.6 TDI is all I ever wanted. Press the gas pedal and hold it at a completely even level and enjoy the acceleration. BUTTERSMOOTH
@rizaldecarulla4789
@rizaldecarulla4789 3 жыл бұрын
Good video and thanks for explaining.
@ramprasadaviator
@ramprasadaviator 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please do the video on Aircrafts 3 spool Turbo fan engine please complete working video is appreciated ! And also on latest engines: P&W Neo GTF turbofan engine or Rolls Royce Trend 1000 Thanks!
@HouseOfHacks
@HouseOfHacks 7 жыл бұрын
If DCT are simpler than automatics, why are they so much more to rebuild/repair? My automatic based vehicle was in at the mechanics at the same time another customer had their DCT based vehicle in. The rebuild on my automatic was half the cost of the DCT's clutch replacement. Ouch.
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 7 жыл бұрын
depends on what was wrong of course
@Electroblud
@Electroblud 7 жыл бұрын
Also, DCT's are not yet very common, i guess?
@HouseOfHacks
@HouseOfHacks 7 жыл бұрын
In this particular case it was just a clutch replacement. R & R the transmission with a new clutch installed. I think the clutch pack by itself (the parts) was as much as my whole rebuild, including labor. I'm guessing part of it is price gouging on the part of the dealer. They're new enough and rare enough that there's no 3rd party market for the parts so you're paying a premium just for the parts. But it was also apparently not designed very well for maintenance. There was a huge amount of labor just in the removal and replacement of the tranny.
@Electroblud
@Electroblud 7 жыл бұрын
House of Hacks Aah yes. Not designed for maintenance is a large problem cars have these days. In our family car, they have to remove the whole intake and exhaust tube stuff in order to exchange the oil filter....
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 7 жыл бұрын
da faq?!? What car is that ElectroBlood ??
@TonyBMan
@TonyBMan Жыл бұрын
*WHEN YOU'RE GOING 100 MPH FORWARDS AND YOU SLAM THE SHIFTER INTO REVERSE*
@zongyang4707
@zongyang4707 7 жыл бұрын
this is alot to learn how the dct trans work...!! If i ever have to repair one IM sending it off to a specialist..!
@LevenZ69
@LevenZ69 3 жыл бұрын
tbh i did'nt get a thing but the graph 😂
@joeracer302
@joeracer302 7 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, but color-blind (deficient) folks everywhere cry when red-green are used to highlight :p
@NikoxD93
@NikoxD93 7 жыл бұрын
cool I want a dual clutch now! nice tech
@JAVTROOPER
@JAVTROOPER 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. I understand
@RenaxTM91
@RenaxTM91 7 жыл бұрын
"Best transmission ever" Well, depends where you're coming from and what you want your car to do. In my experience normal oldscool manuals with a cluch is cheap, reliable, economical, cheap and simple to fix if they do break. and the only negatives is that you have to learn a skill, and 1sec powerloss while shifting. Upside is that when you do learn the skill of driving a manual you have more control. At the cost of using your left leg sometimes, and moving a lever... I've had people tell me that a cluch change is expensive and you never have to do that in a automatic car. But a cluch that isn't abused lasts longer than most cars today, so I don't worry much about it...
@Off3er
@Off3er 6 жыл бұрын
Renax the Man manual all the way!
@789pokey
@789pokey 4 жыл бұрын
Renax, there is no powerloss on shifts if you "power shift". You don't let off the gas and you just brush the clutch pedal enough to force the transmission in to the next gear while the clutch is never fully released.
@RenaxTM91
@RenaxTM91 4 жыл бұрын
@@789pokey well, there is still a powerloss, but if you abuse the gearbox (or have a expensive racing gearbox) it can be less than a second...
@789pokey
@789pokey 4 жыл бұрын
@@RenaxTM91, a second is an eternity in a drag race. At an average speed of 60mph, you're covering 88 feet per second.
@RenaxTM91
@RenaxTM91 4 жыл бұрын
@@789pokey Yea, in a dragrace you want the "expensive racing gearbox" option. For a normal daily driver a second to shift doesn't matter.. I get that most gearboxes you can shift faster than a second, and I can probably do it in half that with mine too, but mostly I don't bother. Anyways, a DSG box can potensially engage next gear simultaneously as it disengages the previous, but a normal manual HAS TO disengage one before engaging the next. this is my point. A dsg can be faster than any manual, but at the cost of weight, complexity and money.. For those reasons I like my daily driver to have the cheaper, more reliable and lighter option, even if it might cost me some time in a sprint... what will cost me more time in a dragrace is only running 1bar boost anyways ;)
@jona8537
@jona8537 Жыл бұрын
Still confused
@basss62
@basss62 2 ай бұрын
Best animation! Montréal, Québec
@Desh.m1
@Desh.m1 Жыл бұрын
very well explained thanks
@G-Confalonieri
@G-Confalonieri 6 жыл бұрын
There are two types of Transmissions: Manual and Lazy.
@brainmind4070
@brainmind4070 6 жыл бұрын
I think you mean: manual and I can eat or drink while I drive.
@flipvdfluitketel867
@flipvdfluitketel867 5 жыл бұрын
Brain Mind only women and animals eat in cars
@brainmind4070
@brainmind4070 5 жыл бұрын
Flip v d Fluitketel I’m okay with being called an animal.
@jisyang8781
@jisyang8781 5 жыл бұрын
G. Confallicneri Amish is allowed to use computer now? Go back to manual load horse manure.
@keyehek1790
@keyehek1790 5 жыл бұрын
fuck i eat while i drive in my manual all the time.
@Off3er
@Off3er 6 жыл бұрын
Manual is still the best option, not arguable
@steamsteam6607
@steamsteam6607 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@CopperKettle
@CopperKettle 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for creating this explanation. Cheers from Russia
@Faraonqa
@Faraonqa 7 жыл бұрын
best transmission is Tesla transmission:D
@thainaaier
@thainaaier 7 жыл бұрын
I am 100% with you on that fact
@luzhrod3398
@luzhrod3398 7 жыл бұрын
i'm sorry to say it to you but electric cars doesn't have transmissions
@Faraonqa
@Faraonqa 7 жыл бұрын
TheTrollexis exactly
@thainaaier
@thainaaier 7 жыл бұрын
TheTrollexis that's exactly why it's the best transmission.... very few or no transmission parts, means there is nothing to service or repair.... nothing can break, no power losses.... more reliable, more efficient
@phantommedia9964
@phantommedia9964 7 жыл бұрын
Faraonqa Koenigsegg Regera, what transmission lolol
@Kamuichan99
@Kamuichan99 7 жыл бұрын
The worst automatic transmission possible. It combines the disadvantages of automated manual transmissions with high costs and complex setups. Dry clutch DCTs failed for every manufacturer who offered them, regardless if VW DSG, Ford Powershift, Honda i-DCD or Hyundai DCT. If you intend to keep your car for a long time and travel without hazzles or jerky experiences, get an CVT or torque converter AT.
@Tuppoo94
@Tuppoo94 7 жыл бұрын
Or get a wet clutch DCT. A six speed wet clutch DSG with a diesel engine is pretty common in VAG group taxicabs in Northern Europe. That combination seems to be holding together, but nothing beats a torque converter AT. The technology has been around for over 70 years, and is absolutely rock solid at this point.
@Kamuichan99
@Kamuichan99 7 жыл бұрын
Then the Toyota HSD arrived and Taxi fleets are converting over to Hybrid, as emission standards get more strict and a Prius turned out to be as similar resilient as an Mercedes E-class.
@TheRealMartin
@TheRealMartin 7 жыл бұрын
Or get a Tesla, and enjoy the simplicity without needing an Internal Combustion engine and complicated transmissions.
@Tuppoo94
@Tuppoo94 7 жыл бұрын
Pass me a hundred grand and I'll buy one.
@CalculatedRiskAK
@CalculatedRiskAK 7 жыл бұрын
Don't know what you're on about. The Hyundai DCT is far from jerky. The one in my Elantra Sport is smooth.
@AJstylesmedia
@AJstylesmedia 7 жыл бұрын
awsome animation... explained very well...
@yashoza6079
@yashoza6079 7 жыл бұрын
This is just awesome literally awesome, mind blowing... The way u showed it awesome... Pls make more videos like that it will just double my knowledge....
@19cmurry85
@19cmurry85 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this is a click bait title in the thumbnail or not but DCT's are far from the "best transmission ever", haven't been for more than 20 years. CVT AMT or SAMT's are the best transmissions period. Continuously Variable Transmission, Automated/Semi Automated Manual Transmissions are far lighter, simpler, stronger and in regard to AMT's can shift just as fast as DCT's, hence why F1 uses them exclusively. The only reason F1 teams don't use the more efficient CVT is because it was banned in the 90's because the governing body for F1 was afraid the lack of shifts would dull the sport for fans. You guys use the word ENGINEERING in your title, you should take more pride in spreading proper information and not miss-information. DCT's are nothing more than a newish marketing fad for the auto industry to sell more cars to uneducated buyers, nothing more than a stepping stone from obsolete automatics/H pattern manuals to the proper and superior in every way... CVT or AMT.
@AlexM-fq5nb
@AlexM-fq5nb 6 жыл бұрын
Chase Murry are you serious? CVTs wear out much sooner than a DCT transmission. Not to mention theyve had to redesign the drive belt like 5 times to withstand normal use.
@oskartuuling8703
@oskartuuling8703 6 жыл бұрын
redesigning is evolution in progress. some technology progress some stagnante. some hawen't the potential some was banned in early days from F1 like the CVT but now its grown mature. DCT is only manuals another stepp. CVT is supreme, it controls the torqe much betther then other gearboxes and its the gearboxes ultimate job!
@mathew5629
@mathew5629 6 жыл бұрын
Chase Murry my Infiniti Q50 has a CVT I love it but just scared for the bands to bust one day 😰
@kutayarcan911
@kutayarcan911 5 жыл бұрын
Automated manuals are slow and clunky. What are you on about?
@uss969
@uss969 Жыл бұрын
Awesome guys great great efforts 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@shantanumelkote4043
@shantanumelkote4043 10 ай бұрын
A dual-clutch transmission is a dream come true. In other words, a DCT is a DCT.
@janrexpensader2597
@janrexpensader2597 7 жыл бұрын
ENLIGHTENMENT! thanks!
@jonathantatler
@jonathantatler 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent graphic!
@kesavanvaydeesh7226
@kesavanvaydeesh7226 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation.. thanks 😊😊😊
@yongqishi6445
@yongqishi6445 4 жыл бұрын
very clear and useful!
@Pingu65716
@Pingu65716 6 жыл бұрын
People are so needy to want a constant power flow for smoothest possible transition of gears. You are operating a miracle of a machine.. You must feel the cogs shift and appreciate the power and control it holds
@GamingWithNikolas
@GamingWithNikolas 5 жыл бұрын
Oh you must feel so hard right now being so much better than every one else for using another pedal.
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