Craftsman V20 Brushless Vs Ryobi 18V One+ HP Brushless 7-1/4" Circular Saw Battle | Tool Test

[@RickyG225]

The Craftsman line gets my vote on most of the features as a DIY user. Great comparison and well done!

[@CoffeeNo0b0514]

Either of these saws will work great for 95% of DIY homeowners

[@FixNewsPlease]

7:05 Place your speed square on the back side of the work-piece and by the time you reach the obstruction it would be fine to finish the cut without it.

[@gobucky3610]

No surprise on the Ryobi shoe. They really need to dump the stamped steel shoe and go with aluminum or magnesium. I had both the brushless and the brushed Ryobi and the shoes were crooked on both. I returned them, bought a Craftsman and the saw is flawless. I love Ryobi but their circular saws are just not good.

[@michaelmounts1269]

The Ryobi shoes bend and distort very easily…and i would echo your comment crooked shoes being way too common…junk

[@cherob1984]

I’ve had the corded (old blue model) Ryobi, it went thru their paces and did not have any issues, just age. Gave it to a neighbor and bought the HP cordless and green corded. They are amazing so far a year in

[@pacificdragon1]

I like the idea of the sawdust being blown to the side on the Craftsman and also how the shoe is made and the detents on the beveling. I guess I am going to have a combination set of DIY tools as I already have Ryobi but it looks like in 7-1/4” Circular Saw Craftsman is the preference between the two saws.

[@jamesbyrd8907]

Thanks for making the head to head! I had a feeling that the Craftsman would beat the Ryobi but didn't expect such a big difference between the two. I am going to start recommending to my homeowner/diy friends to put their money in the V20 brushless series over Ryobi and similar brands.

[@lyricrylan185]

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[@hassanmaxton7942]

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[@lyricrylan185]

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[@lyricrylan185]

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[@hassanmaxton7942]

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[@kshamrocked]

I bought the dust chute for the craftsman and paired with my 8gal shop vac its been awesome at dust collection. I've been very happy with my craftsman tools.

[@DevineCrimsonThunder]

A lot of the craftsman brushless stuff is pretty underrated these days!

[@joshuaknudson5368]

Thanks for doing reviews on Craftsman V20 power tools. You are one of the few channels who are doing so. The V20 line, and Craftsman as a brand in general, isn't getting the love it deserves.

[@WorkshopAddict]

Craftsman does not pay people to do tool reviews. So people won't take the time. Think about that a bit.

[@FyrFytr998]

@@WorkshopAddict I’ve thought about it. Stanley won’t pay, because the videos would show that the differences between yellow and red might not justify buying yellow. That’s why they always delay Craftsman releases until the DeWalt model has been on the market a bit. It’s why the new RP line doesn’t always use the best brushless versions of the Impact Driver and drills.

[@musubi3287]

I just picked up this Ryobi saw and my blade is perfect 90 degrees at the shoe. Maybe they addressed this since. Thanks for the review.

[@christopherwilson7698]

Craftsman is a Ridicules Bang for the Buck I bought the 8 piece kit a little over A year ago worked the crap out of them and I really have been and still am Impressed and Pleased just go big on the Batteries for the circular saw and the reciprocating and it’s a excellent set. I’m a commercial roofer and every tool has been extensively used zero issues yet.

[@odin8214]

The biggest problem i see in investing in craftsman is how many brands and battery platforms its seen through the years. Ryobi is a pretty safe bet in that regard. Nothing sucks more then finding a slightly used tool and seeing how hard its to find batteries and chargers for it.

[@WorkshopAddict]

These days you can buy battery adapters for anything.

[@Barbaratio]

That's my reason to preference for milwaukee, they've been around long enough on the M18 and M12 platform that I feel the battery technology will last awhile

[@ZeoCyberG]

@@WorkshopAddict Not really recommended as the tools and batteries weren't designed to work with adapters. So anything that requires the battery and tool to communicate may not work, such as safety cut offs for things like avoiding over draining the battery and turning it into a brick or preventing the tool or battery from overheating, etc. Sure, they will work in a pinch and as long as you're careful they can get you by but if you don't pay attention to what you're doing or push the tool and battery too hard then it can quickly become risky...

[@ckcuev]

That's because it was under sears ownership. Now on Stanley black and decker ownership it's here to stay

[@timraber6575]

One other thing on the Ryobi. They had a laser guide on the 6.5 inch saw, they took it away on the 7.25 brushless model. I checked the square on my brushless saw, and it too is out of square. I gave my older brushed set away several years ago. Maybe they will work on the guard and shoe for the next model. Right now I’m not even looking to trade brands. I was never impressed with Craftsman cordless tools. I moved on from them when stores was still open. I did have a Craftsman cordless drill, but the batteries died quickly. That’s when I first started buying Ryobi. I do have a wide selection of Craftsman hand tools. It was a sad day when Craftsman name got sold off. It’s kind of like the “Kenmore” name to me. Thanks for the demo. It does help me just hang on to what I have.

[@WorkshopAddict]

The Craftsman tools you hated were built by Chervon, that company bought skilsaw, skil and makes EGO products. They also currently make Kobalt. The Craftsman I used today is made by Stanley Black and Decker. They are bringing the life back to Craftsman in some ways. Maybe it is not perfect yet, bit going in a better direction than it has for the past 30 years.

[@ckcuev]

I don't think it was sad sears sold craftsman to Stanley black and decker. It was sad how sears was treating the craftsman brand. Stanley black and decker is doing justice for craftsman. This year is going to be a great year for craftsman hand tools.

[@rafterh2181]

if you starting from scratch Craftsman might be a good choice, however if you already have a couple Ryobi tools the battery capability makes buying Ryobi tools more economical as well as the endless choices in tools. Ryobi works great for the average do it yourselfer

[@djjd3027]

I'm glad you did a side by side. The reason being that their both going for the same market. specs while important don't mean much until you put pencil to paper and prove or disprove what each company is claiming. After all it's for science. I continue to be underwhelmed by most of the new HP line. I wish Stanley had pushed this line sooner. Great video.

[@WorkshopAddict]

If Stanley would push this, more people would buy it.

[@brentdiez7012]

great video. I always consider the circular saw to be a critical tool. That is why I bought the M18 Fuel 6 1/2. Things like drills, or even impacts can be ok from many suppliers. I good safe circular saw is absolutely necessary. I have been sticking with a combination of M18, M12 and Ryobi tools. No way I would buy a Ryobi circular saw. If I decide to go with a jig saw that I would only use occasionally, I would probably go Ryobi. (I have a corded old skill and it still works well). I just bought the Ryobi caulk gun, because I will only rarely use it and it cost less than half of what a M12 or M18 would cost.

[@interman7715]

Absolutely agree mate ,when I was looking for a new platform the most important tool for me as a carpenter /builder is a good circular saw ,I went with Dewalt Flexvolt.

[@TylorBennett]

The new ryobi jigsaw is really nice. Just fyi

[@manuelsnow2276]

To be honest the Ryobi brushless skillsaws are pretty awesome with a 9amp.battery

[@manuelsnow2276]

He should of use the 9amp battery on the HP Ryobi brushless tools

[@karls6802]

Thanks for your efforts I couldn't agree with you more about what Sears/Management has self-inflicted on the Craftsman brand. In fact, you weren't hard enough on them. I have been using Craftsmen tools for over sixty years, tools I bought and tools I inherited and I still have and use. It's a crime to see what poor choices CEO and management made to harm Sears!

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

The RYOBI 7-1/4" circ saw does fit, and work on RYOBI's track, which does give the option of using a more powerful saw, that also 'can' cut thicker materials with, just don't get in a hurry, cause at ain't real powerhouse. If you're not at all concerned with dust extraction, I'd highly recommend that new SKIL 7-1/4" track compatible saw, and I believe it works on some competitors tracks as well.

[@fredyquiroz7654]

I think people like it because it shows exactly what people want to see. Some people are cut more slack in some tools/brands and this type of videos are a great way to see which one is really better… I mean I liked it, I watch the whole thing and honestly I want to know what the Craftsman 7 1/4” 20V miter saw can do. Does it have the power? Is it accurate? Can I really use it for trim if I need to? I appreciate the video…

[@marilynlindensmith478]

This was very good presentation. I have a lot C3 tools ,including a 7-1/4 circular saw. I am wanting to which over to the 20v line, but I can't find a 7-1/4 blade left circular saw. If you have an idea of I they are going to produce one, let me know

[@cwikk660]

I would love to see these up against the Milwaukee m18 and dewalt flexvolt equivalent. Just to see how much better the other saws are.

[@WorkshopAddict]

There is a big step up when you move up to Dewalt and Milwaukee IF you use the right batteries. The batteries and motors are the main differences. I could do it, but do you think people are wondering if they should buy Dewalt or Craftsman?

[@your_average_gamer8066]

Im in the craftsman system and i dont think i will ever have the need to upgrade to dewalt they just prove time and time again that they are good enough and that they out do dewalt sometimes

[@cwikk660]

@@WorkshopAddict I think people should know all their options because if I bought this ryobi and saw how much better the flexvolt is I would definitely step up. The flexvolt equivalent isn’t that bad for price when it goes on sale at Home Depot.

[@loucifer323]

I just watched a another tool reviewer and they had the craftsman vs kobolt vs dewalt gen 2 circular saw and the craftsman did very well blew kobolt away it wasn't as powerful as the dewalt but it would be equal to the Milwaukee especially when they used the 9amp battery, for 99$ you can't beat it

[@ecoRfan]

I just got into the Craftsman V20 line. It definitely goes right against Ryobi when it comes to homeowner-friendly tools. Ryobi has more choices, but Craftsman is growing and tends to be a bit higher quality than its targeted rival. And both companies make garage door openers too.

[@dougk.5501]

Aluminum is not magnesium. Craftsman is no more Dewalt than Ryobi is Milwaukee. Confirmation bias at best. Sorry for being direct.

[@ej5936]

Thank you for your honest opinion and test

[@tensazero]

This newer version of the Ryobi is just slightly better than the older ver1 7-1/4 BL. That bend in the shoe looks awfully suspicious like a tracksaw guide capability. The ver1 shoe has a tendency to deflect a lot. I can't cut ply thicker than 1/2" without veering off, even with a straight edge. It's good enough for cutting across 2x lumber. I can't complain too much though. I got it with the Ver1 BL hammer drill kit on a deal. For an all-round circsaw, I'd recommend something a bit better and faster than Ryobi/Hart/Bauer where the shoe doesn't flex when you slightly try to press it.

[@ckcuev]

There is a ryobi track saw in the works that is with a table. Kind of like the kreg jig track saw and table. I guess that's why they did it. You can see patents designs on it at doresroom KZbin channel

[@your_average_gamer8066]

Im in the craftsman system and i dont think i will ever have the need to upgrade to dewalt they just prove time and time again that they are good enough and that they out do dewalt sometimes

[@WorkshopAddict]

When you compare apples to apples, they never out do Dewalt tools. If you compared this brushless saw to an older brushed dewalt, it would.

[@PhillyFixed]

5 months later... Ryobi is still $129 ... come on Home Depot! The best they've done is a charger + non-HP (NON HP) 4aH for $149 with the saw as a 'special buy.'

[@timsigmond8984]

I have had three of the first Ryobi brushless saw which all quit working, the last two lasted about four months. Got the new hp Ryobi brushless hopefully it last more than a few months, if not I will be switching brands, have most of their tools.

[@WorkshopAddict]

We have now learned that the Ryobi brushless and ryobi HP brushless all have the same internal parts.

[@timothybaus5343]

@@WorkshopAddict what's the difference then?

[@drjd2real]

Did it last?

[@ProxyFinal]

what I don't understand is that if this is TTi who makes the saws for Ryobi, why is it that they don't design it like the M18s? well, even the M18s are not very good at extracting dust. If you look at the Ryobi's dust shoot, there is seriously a design flaw happening here. At least Dewalt/ Craftsman seems very consistent.

[@disinterestedwisdom8090]

Dust extraction is actually really good. Not sure what the malfunction was here. I own this saw and when I fit it to my rigid shop vac it removes virtually all dust, leaving almost nothing on the floor. My BS meter is on overload just watching this crap.

[@craftsmantrucker6867]

Hammer Hearter, TTI Ryobi Designed the Saw without the Dust Extraction are meant for Beginner Left Handed People. Compare to Craftsman even though it's a blade right but it's not meant for Left handed people because of the stupid Dust Port and the Dust will shoot directly on to left handed operator's Face. And Saw Dust is not good in the health especially when you are cutting pressure treated lumbers. Saw dust always contains chemicals that known to cause cancer and other diseases. I give credit for Ryobi TTI because they know the importance of the Saw Dust Hazards to human health. Only Ryobi new and their old brushless circular saw that shoots saw dust downwards, I also give credit for the Makita Hypoid Saw both 5477NB/5377MG corded also the skill saw worm drive corded and the skill Corded Southpaw Sidewinder Saw all of them shoots or ejects saw dust Downwards. The rest of the circular saw designs from DeWalt corded and cordless, Makita corded sidewinders and cordless and the Rest of them have design flaw and they really made it that way on purpose to harm the users.

[@maverickd.t.l.9749]

All I see when testing out the SBD craftsman is that it is VERY impressive and much better then people initially thought the brand would become under the new owner. I am a HUGE craftsman guy unlike some people I actually LISTENED and TOOK to heart what my father and his taught him about the craftsman BAND. Since then all I buy are craftsman tools. Hand tools mostly from the past but the power tools without question goes to SBD craftsman. Tools are pro/Sumer grade not homeowner.

[@brianf9619]

I'm on my 2nd Milwaukee m18 Fuel 61/2" blade left circular saw and the blade is still OFF just like that Ryobi's blade , and Yes I'm Pissed Off about it , it's a $215.00 saw and it doesn't cut straight , is it a TTI thing or what ???

[@eballacharles0302]

For DIY use craftsman and ryobi are both good tools 👍👌

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

Great Video. Thanks for the comparison of 2 of the easier battery platforms to get into. Now, how about SKIL, RIDGID, and Kobalt comparison.?

[@Pro1er]

Great comparison Brian. What doesn't make sense is that the E.U. version of the Ryobi has a proper dust chute.

[@WorkshopAddict]

I don't know.

[@promo130]

The eu version is also way more expensive

[@histguy101]

Interesting, the EU M18 Fuel 6.5" also has a dust chute. The US version does not

[@sherlockbonez]

Craft and decker vs milyobi.

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

I have a crappy cellphone, and I could see your outline in the cloud of saw dust when you used the RYOBI, verses how well the exhaust port of the CRAFTSMAN seems to work. That's it for me.🧐 I'm sold if I'm in the market for a budget 7-1/4".🤓😎😡

[@lowkeygato2133]

Gotta love the Craftsman!

[@BiggMo]

I wouldn’t by either brand. I’m in the Mikita camp for my cordless.

[@therandomgamer8668]

Yh makita is better these are just some affordable entry level brands for people just getting in to tools or jobs that dont require quality cuts or cut like wood like butter and efficiently im looking to buy one for fencing and doing decks along with some other projects but im just starting out so i dont wanna break the bank. I can upgrade later

[@alexwilson3785]

I get the saw being off that bit for fine working would be a problem. Would it make a difference from framing cuts? I'm already in the ryobi line and would like to stay with the same battery system

[@WorkshopAddict]

You will never get a tight fit if your cuts are not square. For me, it would matter. For beginners, it might not matter.

[@dougk.5501]

That little adjustment screw at the front of the shoe allows you to adjust it to square. Takes a few minutes and is no big deal. All saws have an adjustment because NONE of them can/will stay true forever. My $2500 Jet table saw has many fine adjustments that I check often (once a month). This is common practice/maintenance for any saw with a fence/guide/shoe.

[@interman7715]

@@dougk.5501 Watch the video ,he couldn't even adjust it enough because of poor design.

[@dougk.5501]

@@interman7715 I did watch the video. You should try real life where nothing is perfect out of the box and all will need adjustemnt. You're welcome.

[@michaelvinet9661]

A black bar goes into the bottom in sleeve that extends and locks on wood for straight cuts

[@George-cy3yz]

That off kilter blade has got to be putting added stress on the motor and slowing it through denser cuts. Makes me wonder if any of that is contributing to the problem of dust ejection. I'm not sure the motor placement issue matters a lot, since it still clears the speed square on 2x cuts (if I understood correctly) when raised higher (as it should be regardless). Lastly, it's a fair enough test method, I suppose, but I'm not sure folks in this category are rip cutting 4x4s and it may not be entirely fair to test a saw on material it's not intended for. To say that one saw performs better is a situation that no one much needs makes it mostly irrelevant.

[@emailjimsylvester]

I disagree. Running the blade at an angle shouldn't slow it down significantly. The shoe angle is adjustable to do this on purpose. The comparison is worth doing because it's interesting, especially to those not deeply invested in a certain brand.

[@sloanNYC]

This new gen of Ryobi tools seem to have more defects. For saws I go DeWalt. But I have a lot of Ryobi stuff for everything from lighting to soldering and drills.This makes sense for DeWalt/Stanley/BlackDecker... take old parts and models and make Craftsman... solid and well tested... Batteries are how they all rip us off. Cheap 9aH Ryobi HP+ batteries when on sale is why I invested there.

[@tuffytoys9707]

Great Video. Thanks for the views on the Craftsman. The Craftsman brand is a bit more attainable where I live and considering the quality issues with the Ryobi Saws I think I will go the way of the Craftsman after seeing this video. However, I would like more info on the sears craftsman tools and how to avoid them, ie. What to look for when buying a new Craftsman Saw etc?. Thanks.

[@ckcuev]

You don't go to sears to buy them

[@ckcuev]

Also Stanley black and decker has a few retailers like lowes, ace, Napa, farm and fleet

[@MrLuisinho90]

The older (Sears) cordless tools have a boxed Craftsman logo with smaller letters and come with 20 Volt Die Hard branded batteries (black). Also the red paint is a darker shade. These older tools are pretty much gone from the shelves as we speak. You won't find them on big retailers like Lowe's or ACE. But Amazon sells a few old tools and most of the new lineup, so watch out. The newer Stanley/B&D tools have a wider logo without any boxed text and come with V20 Lithium Ion batteries (red/black). The packaging also has V20 all over it to identify the battery platform which is easily distinguishable from the previous tools. Also the tools and batteries are painted with a brighter shade of red. Last but not the least: the Stanley/B&D based Craftsman tools all have model numbers starting with CMC, so for example one of their drills is a CMCD700, impact drivers are CMCF800, CMCF810, CMCF820 jigsaws are CMCSXXXXX and so on...

[@robgrujicic5380]

Hello there from Montreal Canada love your videos thank you for sharing 😃🍺👊🇨🇦

[@bryanbahling2877]

Definitely need diablo blades on both. Makes all the difference in the world.

[@carlosethangodinez6656]

Can I recommend by connect each cordless circular saw to hook up a vacuum

[@Jarco101]

Nice video. Looks like Craftsman is coming back. Since we talking vintage; when the long hair review videos are coming back??? Lol greetings.

[@WorkshopAddict]

I almost did it in this one.

[@Jarco101]

@@WorkshopAddict I'll patiently wait for it Mr

[@Barbaratio]

If it says 20V it IS an 18V system regardless, it's just how they advertise. 20V is battery cell MAXIMUM, 18V is battery cell NOMINAL. They pick that rating so you're like "Oh more voltage" but in reality it's the same voltage battery.

[@WorkshopAddict]

I wish everyone knew that.

[@deemelody2396]

I would've thought the Craftsman 20V was 20V, not an 18V. False advertising like this with something electrical where volts & amps have specific meanings this shouldn't be allowed. It's probably so folks don't try to use those battery adapters with them.

[@Barbaratio]

@@deemelody2396 Yep 18v & 20v systems are the same. Just depends on the rating they pick.

[@guillaumeb6698]

I'm not sure dust is the reason the saw's heating up, isn't it more because of the 4500RPM of the Ryobi ? It might have been hotter, but it seemed to cut much faster. The dust management surely is poor on the Ryobi though.

[@kdc300z]

1st ad at 1 minute? 2nd at 5 min? 3rd at 10 min. Cmon, Dude. Edit: next at 13... Jesus Christ.

[@WorkshopAddict]

KZbin places them. Sorry. I need to figure that out.

[@eliteexposure5594]

Man the new Ryobi are complete junk. I almost sold my small Milwaukee Fuel collection so I could get the whole Ryobi line. Thanks for the videos.

[@94SexyStang]

Ryobi is just slow and weak.......they ARE a hell of a bargain for homeowner stuff.......but Not a workhorse by any means.

[@eliteexposure5594]

@@94SexyStang Theyre still 75 to 80 percemt the cost of Milwaukees Fuel.

[@ToolswithSoAlz]

How dies that Craftsman compare to the newest Ridgid? I think the Ridgid would eat its lunch.

[@WorkshopAddict]

IMHO, they are on par with each other for power, but the Craftsman has better build quality. Ridgid Octane has better batteries.

[@yzfr1josh]

Love your vids bud. When you square up the shoe, is the part of the frame/chassis next to the blade at the same height as the shoe? It looks like the framing square isn't sitting on the outermost part of the shoe. Just curious.

[@mnyee1995]

Nice comparison video. Do you know where can we get a dust chute connector for the Craftsman?

[@Martinruizthemerchant]

great video I have DeWalt and craftsman tools I am starting to really like the craftsman tools more and have been buying more craftsman as i will be moving away from DeWalt and more with Craftsman Stanly is really putting more into the Craftsman line and they want it to grow so the tools are better and are not bad for the price also

[@4thewinak]

Maybe it’s just me but I think the Ryobi should really be compared to maybe kobalt. You could probably compare the craftsman to ridgid (not exactly but probably closer in market position). Makita blade isn’t the best, but probably still better than some of the blades some of the other ones ship with. Nice work!

[@WorkshopAddict]

I did what the people asked for in this one.

[@Chukijay]

I’d like to see tests with each saw using the blade it came with, and each saw using a proper blade like a Diablo or similar. The same for same test with a good blade will keep the lower RPM Ryobi running and it would still be a good control because the blades are the same. Like you said, a bad blade hurts a saw more than a good blade helps it. Right now I’m still kinda in the “pay more for a DeWalt kit” camp although I am considering Ryobi and Craftsman. For me, any of the 3 will be an upgrade. Or I’ll go Kobalt XTR and replace all my major tools for $650 or so with all XTR tools.

[@WorkshopAddict]

If, you want to see how they worked with the factory blade, the same tests were done in my individual review. Watch those and compare. Kobalt brand is who used to make the Craftsman CP3 crap.

[@kartboarder22g17]

Yikes I'm a Ryobi user but am very disappointed with what I'm seeing here. Did you see what happened with shop tool reviews and the 1/2" impact wrench where it is stalling out with a 6Ah. Yikes. That tool looked very promising. Again Ryobi lives under big Reds shadow. That's just the truth. Glad I'm now in the M18 platform too as if I need something a bit better I can make it happen there.

[@interman7715]

Yep I had the previous brushless Ryobi 7 1/4 " saw and was bitterly dissapointed , 90 degree cuts slightly off and GUTLESS .I had hoped for good things with this new saw but it was not to be ,c'mon Ryobi get your act together.

[@atrainace114]

Hey awesome vid. I got to say I appreciate you communicating while cutting but man you have got to stay safe. Wear a mask or breather for that dust and do a voice over especially indoors with no ventalation. The chemicals in pressure treated wood are the worst for your lungs.

[@TheAarowsmith]

The Ryobi motor sounds stronger 💪. The table not being a 90 degree is not an issue on Ryobi. You must have a defective unit. You also need to compare cutting with the same blades in both saws, like Diablo 7 1/4" framing blade. Factory blades like Makita are crap. Also depends on wood. Some areas of the board have knots and will bind your crappy blade. You need to pick an equal piece of wood to cut in both saws and use good blades like Diablo.

[@enthused7591]

I thought the Ryobi sounded much higher rpm as well.

[@theTealStory]

Craftsman wins but realistically if I need a perfect cut on something I’m not going to use a circular saw if I didn’t need to. I also don’t ever see myself making a full depth of cut that the saw can’t cut through all the way for 10 feet. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@WorkshopAddict]

Many people would put a 60 tooth blade on the circ saw and with a fence make a good finish cut for woodworking.

[@interman7715]

I am a carpenter and use a circ saw every work day and sometimes I have to do long full depth rips and in a pinch I will even cut trim timber with it ,I had the brushless Ryobi and sold it ,I have a Dewalt Flexvolt for the last two years and love it.

[@TylorBennett]

Dang, i was hoping Ryobi finally released a quality circular saw.

[@kyleknight8267]

I've heard the same thing about Craftsman (Lowe's) that I've heard about DeWalt, which is that the 20v batteries are really 18v batteries. They're just labeled as 20v batteries to get people to spend more money on them.

[@WorkshopAddict]

Every company does it. 12 volt tools are really 10.8... But yes, there is no 20 volt tool. Each cell can be rated at 4.0 volts, but at the slightest draw they come down to 3.6....

[@kyleknight8267]

@@WorkshopAddict valid point about the dust port, the blade guard tends to block the dust port. What I like about the newer circular saws from ryobi is the way the battery attaches to the tool, it makes it so the weight is more evenly distributed

[@mercury0214]

Craftsman batteries and dewalt are still cheaper than the competition

[@loucifer323]

They are 20v batteries when not under load they're actually 20.4 volts, and when they say 18v that's just a average under load, if you're doing something very demanding with your tool it can drop down to 16v or if less demanding it will stay at 20 v it varies on what you are doing, just like 14.4v batteries were actually 15.6v

[@mat_a.c.d.evloganstuff3917]

This was an awesome video im am now getting the craftsman saw but do you really think craftsman won't last?

[@WorkshopAddict]

I think it is here to stay.

[@mat_a.c.d.evloganstuff3917]

@@WorkshopAddict i know there a really quiet brand and that kinda scares me because I'm in the craftsman v20 platform hopefully they will continue and not be discontinued like porter cable in the future

[@ecoRfan]

@@mat_a.c.d.evloganstuff3917 seems SB&D and Lowe’s are going all in on Craftsman. Some Porter-Cable tabletop tools have been rebranded. But anything with the Craftsman name seems to be getting pushed. And some can also be found at Ace and Amazon.

[@WorkshopAddict]

@@mat_a.c.d.evloganstuff3917 I get what you are saying. I think that Kobalt has a better chance of going away than Craftsman. IMHO, Craftsman could some day be the brand at Lowes and Ace.

[@interman7715]

In Australia these are rebranded as Stanley V 20 Fatmax ,I think they will be a long term product.

[@weldonpinder7295]

Can anyone tell me where to find a guide / rip fence for the Ryobi circular saw because I ordered one for my older brushless version and the guide couldn't fit it was to thick. I'm assuming it was for the corded version

[@promo130]

Hey brian, how are ryobi’s 18g bradnailer and 16g finish nailer, never owned a ryobi tool, but its half the price of a dewalt and i will not use it alot

[@WorkshopAddict]

They work great but have the hardest and worst trigger on the market. I do not even understand how an engineer would do that. Buy it, Try it and return if you do not like it. If you can deal with the trigger, it might be worth it.

[@promo130]

@@WorkshopAddict oke thanks alot indeed can always return it

[@interman7715]

I am a carpenter / builder and have been using my 16 gauge Ryobi nailer for two years now, it is very powerful and reliable thus far and even drives 65mm nails easily, it is a bit bulky but you get used to it ,I don't use my pneumatic nailer any more.

[@Danny7930]

Been using the 18g nailer for a while, lasts a pretty long time, I’m not picky in the trigger as I’m not aiming it like a gun, just push and pull the trigger, you don’t miss. It’s held up perfectly fine

[@promo130]

@@Danny7930 i got the 16g finish nailer Works prittybgood, only thing with the trigger is that you always press the light button too wen you shoot a nails, even during the day😂

[@thomaswooo4850]

hi could you review the Ryobi R18PDBL got one on sale with 2 5 amp batteries for £180 seems a good job

[@promo130]

Ryobi better then then a brushed bosch version? Bosch is a little cheaper then the ryobi over here

[@charlesking678]

Another great video. I buy mainly pro level tools, so these aren't really for me. I had higher expectations for the Ryobi up line. This saw was underwhelming.

[@WorkshopAddict]

Great point!

[@weldonpinder7295]

I hate that most cordless circular saws don't come with a guide for ripping different widths of wood. the Ryobi is a big disappointed because they don't

[@drjd2real]

I already knew Craftsman would win, but they don't have enough choices compared to Ryobi

[@richardelliott7022]

finally they are compairing to crappy tools against each other

[@marvinbenjamin3015]

The craftsman sounds like a flex volt or flex volt advantage. Wow it made it through full depth without cut out. And where is porter cable anyway now a days.

[@WorkshopAddict]

I don't know where they are or of they are on hold.

[@Barbaratio]

Unfortunately porter cable got zombie branded, their power tools now are not of their previous tools

[@sloanNYC]

With all the consolidation some brands are going to be on the outs... hopefully you can find the same quality in one of their other brands moving forward...

[@jackwilson4596]

I do just have to say, as a diy'er, I dont believe that the ryobi saw is that bad, sure it's no milwaukie brushless fuel circular saw, or any thing like that, but for the price, and its statics the avarage home owner (diyer), will surely get the job done and then some with it. Even thought the blade is not quite square, I for one wouldent be using a circular saw to cut pieces perfectly square anyway, i would save that for a miter or table saw.

[@trulyhappy8855]

I would just notch a cheap speed square for guiding cuts.

[@ApacheLife-50]

So spend more money on a worse saw, buy a speed square and cut a notch out of it to use the more expensive crappier saw?

[@trulyhappy8855]

@@ApacheLife-50 I’m saying if I bought the saw and discovered this issue, I could easily resolve it by notching one of my cheap backup squares. You seem a little emotional about saws and squares my guy. I either use my mag77 when I can be corded or my m18 fuel if it needs to be a cordless situation.

[@jefffuchs2667]

Try to be a little less biased when doing a review. It was clear in the first 2 minutes you weren’t a fan of Ryobi. You looked for reasons to know the Ryobi. Ex. “Some people say they really like the battery here.....” you reply with “That may be but I wouldn’t recommend......”

[@farvasstache6532]

Agreed... this was a very odd test.

[@BigDaddysGarage]

The people wanted it. You didn’t understand why. But you still give em what they wanted. ✋

[@WorkshopAddict]

Part of the gig.

[@PostUp_Time]

90 DEGREE TEST ON RYOBI YOU WERE CLEARLY TEETERING THE SQUARE SO BLADE APPEARS OUT OF SQUARE. PLUS THERES LESS PLATE DOR YOU TO CHEAT

[@saltkettledesignsbyr.ebarn8748]

Can I please challenge you with your DeWalt 20 V highest amp battery with my 20 volt highest amp battery Craftsman 7 1/4 circular saw I need to challenge you with this just saying...

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

I'd be willing to bet the RYOBI blade would cut circles around the MAKITA blade.....get it, cut circles around....

[@zespopiesniitanca3554]

Good job, thank you! I really like your honesty!

[@WorkshopAddict]

Thank you

[@acecaldwell4701]

You have to loose the ryobi blade to Guage its true performance.enen there little 5 an a half in circ saw is another tool with a blade swap

[@saltkettledesignsbyr.ebarn8748]

Just saying when it says no load 20 volt and if it's a 20 volt it is an 18 no matter what brand just saying

[@chadhero37]

Hello, so I have the Craftsman line and I have basically all of the tools. I have a ton of batteries as well. My question is, which tools drain the batteries the most? I want to basically keep the 2a batteries for certain tools and use the 9 and the 6 on more necessary devices. The nailguns don't seem to mind the 2a, but what other tools do you think they will be sufficient?

[@RickyG225]

Just curious how the Nail Guns perform? Do you recommend any particular model IYO?

[@chadhero37]

@@RickyG225 they're fine. They do a good job (I have the 16 and 18g). I recently upgraded all of my tools to Milwaukee Fuel tools. You cant compare the Craftsman to the Milwaukee (the Milwaukee is amazing), but that being said, I used the Craftsman for over a year on stair construction (everyday) and never had an issue. So they're perfectly fine

[@RickyG225]

@@chadhero37 Good move to the Fuel line. I really like the Gen-2 Milwaukee nailer. Pricey but looks like it has some nice upgrades compared to the earlier Gen-1 counterpart.

[@carlosethangodinez6656]

To prevent sawdust clogging up

[@billprocter942]

I've had Ryobi brushed tools for about 10yrs. Made the change to brushed this month. Went with Skil largely do to the Craftsman stigmatism. Really didn't look at them. Might have been a mistake.

[@dougk.5501]

You did good, Skil has a way better battery than craftsman and you will be happy with the long life of the tools and the batteries comparatively.

[@hmong_keeb_kwm]

Ryobi and their 90 Degree issue is something that comes off the factory production line issue. A circular saw that's not perfect 90 degree is always gonna struggle on wipe cut.

[@eddieabernathy5998]

I would return the Ryobi !

[@TheImtoomuch]

The Ryobi haters, and there are a lot of them, just want to see this tool bashed and beaten. But these two saws are in different classes IMO.

[@leonnobles545]

Wear a dust mask and safety glasses.

[@mattnixon7728]

You’ll always have dust buildup on wet green treated lumber.

[@JoseSanchez-wb5rz]

I am using the Ryobi 5 1/2 saw and will not upgrade to their 7 1/4. That bigger Ryobi saw has Cheap written all over it.

[@manuelsnow2276]

Just 9amp Ryobi 🔋 best way to go

[@toolsdealsautomobiles6980]

That blade makes or breaks that craftsman cerc saw! It comes with a junk blade

[@farvasstache6532]

Of course the saw is plugged up and hot. Your running them down the length of treated and wet lumber. No one in their right mind would use them that way. Wrong tool for the wrong job. I wouldn't do that to my corded Bosch circular saw and that thing EATS! Honestly, it looked like you were just trying to kill the tools with abuse. If you want to compare saws. Do it using them the way they were intended. Cross cuts for framing. Treated lumber cross cuts for decks and decking or fencing. Certainly not for "milling". We get it, you don't like Ryobi. A lot of people don't, but at least be fair in testing.

[@acecaldwell4701]

I'd throw the ryobi blade in the trash and test again with same Diablo blade on both I bet it will shock you how different it is

[@TheImtoomuch]

Interestingly the Craftsman CMCS550B is now full price of $129.99 everywhere. Why are Ryobi batteries so much larger?

[@Danny7930]

Bought the ryobi for $99. Their batteries use more padding I assume. I dropped my battery off a 2nd story house and it was fine

[@eliotrobb1706]

Or just flip the speed square...

[@WorkshopAddict]

100 Percent. I have never had to do that with my other saws.

[@sc400gilliland]

Craftsman right off the bat just because it doesn't have that stupid battery style like the ryobi

[@cameronjordan1516]

And it's red which is objectively better than baby shit green

[@TheImtoomuch]

why is the Ryobi battery "stupid"?

[@sc400gilliland]

@@TheImtoomuch because of its shape, it's just outdated and takes up alot more room in my tool boxes

[@TheImtoomuch]

@@sc400gilliland yeah, but Ryobi keeps it the same so that people don't have to replace their tools. I think it's a smart idea and I'll take that over making the battery slightly smaller.

[@GwynBleys]

I can tell you that Craftsman is gonna win without watching the video :) Ryobi is the bottom tier of power tools