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@drawkward234
@drawkward234 5 ай бұрын
the "walking into the door" blunder is the 2nd most common door blunder after the "push/pull the opposite door" blunder
@thefrogshammer2723
@thefrogshammer2723 5 ай бұрын
I was here earlier, it does both.
@Dr.Sortospino
@Dr.Sortospino 5 ай бұрын
And you are not even Portuguese or Brazilian, where "Puxar" (Pushar) means Pull.
@danielandree3947
@danielandree3947 5 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget the most impressive gambit of “pushing a round about door the wrong way”
@samkhan-lu9ww
@samkhan-lu9ww 5 ай бұрын
every door is a push door if you push hard enough
@moonbeamz8207
@moonbeamz8207 5 ай бұрын
​@Dr.Sortospino as a madiera Portuguese I can attest. That words confused the h e double hockey sticks out my English brain lol
@Evex6
@Evex6 5 ай бұрын
Magnus is the only person that can make walking through a door look so awkward and difficult and yet still look menacing
@jf7199
@jf7199 5 ай бұрын
False on every level lol
@gloria9985
@gloria9985 5 ай бұрын
lol so true 😂
@OrtegaSauce
@OrtegaSauce 5 ай бұрын
Had me in the first half
@stolengrilfriendclub8724
@stolengrilfriendclub8724 5 ай бұрын
So pain ahh? So pain
@basebalkid6828
@basebalkid6828 5 ай бұрын
THAT IS SO TRUE XD
@nychold
@nychold 5 ай бұрын
That guy opening the door is like me playing chess. Great opening, stops half way through and becomes a complete failure.
@xaviermoise7187
@xaviermoise7187 5 ай бұрын
Yeah my brain just stops working after the opening
@benlipson6497
@benlipson6497 5 ай бұрын
Real
@daanw6270
@daanw6270 5 ай бұрын
​@xaviermoise7187 that probably means your brain isn't really working during the opening either, you just memorized the moves lol.. I am in the same boat tbh
@ryand3rson
@ryand3rson 5 ай бұрын
😂
@wanderson3212
@wanderson3212 5 ай бұрын
For real bro we feel the same
@oraziogrinzosi4777
@oraziogrinzosi4777 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I blame fide for the whole situation. If many top players resort to quick draws in a world championship because they're exhausted after 12 blitz games in a row, maybe the format is flawed. Also, what's the difference between this draw and that 2 moves one in the rapid event? That also looks pretty pre-arranged to me
@Kevinmiller835
@Kevinmiller835 5 ай бұрын
Because this is a mockery of fide lol.
@SamuelVenturaMusic
@SamuelVenturaMusic 5 ай бұрын
I don’t really see what the big deal is. If players want to make occasional draws, they’re both forfeiting a potential half point and who cares what moves they make? It’s more entertaining than watching them play/playing the Berlin anyway…
@madting2984
@madting2984 5 ай бұрын
@@SamuelVenturaMusicIt’s just that chess is trying to become more commercially appealing, it’s basically trying to become more like other sports. In most sports, pre-arranged results are scandalous. I just don’t see why this particular game needs counteraction but “berlin draws” games don’t. If the problem is the fact that it is a pre-arranged draw, then the same should be for those other games.
@danielandree3947
@danielandree3947 5 ай бұрын
The 2 move rapid game, is that the one with magnus and hikaru who played e3 ke2 ke1 repeat move draw?
@clockworkpotato
@clockworkpotato 5 ай бұрын
The difference is that this is a tournament and not a video stream
@cjbee3839
@cjbee3839 5 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the horsey dance and I thought it was a very distinguished way to make a draw.
@ahouranouri516
@ahouranouri516 5 ай бұрын
The door didn't stand a chance, what a BRILLIANT move by magnus carlson!!
@shadowphantom8552
@shadowphantom8552 5 ай бұрын
D O O R
@stolengrilfriendclub8724
@stolengrilfriendclub8724 5 ай бұрын
Arnit
@gabster3401
@gabster3401 5 ай бұрын
Carlesen😅
@ouss
@ouss 5 ай бұрын
H O D O R
@RungeKutta-lh1le
@RungeKutta-lh1le 5 ай бұрын
​@@gabster3401Carlsen 😅
@cdorresteijn
@cdorresteijn 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, what is the difference between the infamous Berlin defense draw and this draw? The Berlin draw is pretty much as pre-arranged as this one, only more fancy.
@michaelfratipietro9674
@michaelfratipietro9674 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Tinybabyfishy
@Tinybabyfishy 5 ай бұрын
In any real sense, nothing. In the sense of the rules as they are written, there's enough plausible deniability that "maybe" the position came about naturally and just happened to be a draw, so in FIDE's eyes it doesn't bring chess into disrepute.
@neerajnambudiri9971
@neerajnambudiri9971 5 ай бұрын
But then how about if a player offers a draw in the first few moves? Shouldn't that be forfeited as well?
@blacktigershearthstoneadve6905
@blacktigershearthstoneadve6905 5 ай бұрын
@@Tinybabyfishy To be honest inconsistency in decisions of chess officials brings more disrepute to chess than these arranged draws.
@vikramkrishnan6414
@vikramkrishnan6414 5 ай бұрын
Because that is actually a legit line, not some comedy like this.
@L33TTechReviewer
@L33TTechReviewer 5 ай бұрын
Kinda silly that dubov could play 2 moves offer a draw, artemiev accepts and no one bat's an eye but then they get penalized for this? Why are some draws allowed and others don't if it would affect the standings equally
@burdenglorious9152
@burdenglorious9152 5 ай бұрын
This.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 ай бұрын
This was pre-arranged. On camera. It's completely different. You can't be serious and suggest that fixed/rigged games shouldn't be penalized. C'mon now.
@cooperlovera1156
@cooperlovera1156 5 ай бұрын
As just a chess fan, that nepo/dubov draw is hilarious
@jevitigre
@jevitigre 5 ай бұрын
Yes but FIDE CEO didnt think is hilarious
@toSirius
@toSirius 5 ай бұрын
@@jevitigre a decision they had to make immediately after the round. BEFORE round 12 start...
@bartholomewkuma467
@bartholomewkuma467 5 ай бұрын
​@@jevitigreidk why is this problematic ? Like its a draw but the 2 guys are agree with. Idk that's maybe the sign of an bad situation, who all of us are tired after more than 10 games in arrow..
@Prado73
@Prado73 5 ай бұрын
​@@bartholomewkuma467 because Nepo talk back to FIDE and they retaliate. Nepo should file a lawsuit to the person that considered it was prearrenged. He would win 100% because it is imposible for the arbiter to prove.
@2maa2
@2maa2 5 ай бұрын
@@bartholomewkuma467the problem is pre-arranging draws before the game even begins
@rhsatrhs
@rhsatrhs 5 ай бұрын
I don't see how Dubov - Nepo is a double forfeit if Dubov - Artemiev in round 8 wasn't also a double forfeit: 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 1/2-1/2 by agreement. Did nobody bring that one to the attention of the arbiters, or are they just being inconsistent?
@laciadams7899
@laciadams7899 5 ай бұрын
or Lei who offered a draw on 3rd move in the women's should Nepo/Dubav done that instead like wtf xD
@jeremyhillson9210
@jeremyhillson9210 5 ай бұрын
Nepo and Dubov discussed at the board, before the game on camera how they were going to draw
@mrflamingo1004
@mrflamingo1004 5 ай бұрын
@@jeremyhillson9210 that's not proven. They discussed "dance of the knights" but as Nepo posted afterwards, it's the title of a Prokofiev piece from the 1930s. You can't prove this is a draw, that's only circumstantial evidence.
@methatis3013
@methatis3013 5 ай бұрын
​@@jeremyhillson9210drawing on move 3 is pretty much the same
@hostomelhorsehoarder
@hostomelhorsehoarder 5 ай бұрын
its because fide hates fun
@thedevilsluck1781
@thedevilsluck1781 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate Nepo and Dubov still having their childlike humor, as this is a “common” joke in some places. Probably not the best time for them to mess about, but basically peoples argument is “lie to me”. Which I just find kind of dumb. They made their intention clear. Optically bad, but ultimately same result as a 3 move draw or anything else.
@Idiomatick
@Idiomatick 5 ай бұрын
Yeah.. they can announce their plan to draw before the game starts and draw for their first move which would be ok... but doing a knight swap is bad because reasons.
@eljanrimsa5843
@eljanrimsa5843 5 ай бұрын
@@Idiomatick no, if they announce it before the game, it's 0-0
@Idiomatick
@Idiomatick 5 ай бұрын
@@eljanrimsa5843 They can't announce together. They could each announce their plan to play for a draw though.
@fep_ptcp883
@fep_ptcp883 5 ай бұрын
They should've played the shortest stalemate possible
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 ай бұрын
No, there is a big difference. There is a big difference two people separately reaching the conclusion that they want a draw without actually discussing it, versus arranging it beforehand. It has nothing to do with lying or optics.
@stephenelliott7071
@stephenelliott7071 5 ай бұрын
Haha FIDE was talking about fines for turning up late, then ups the game by turning late attendance into a kind of Takeshi's Castle/Wipeout/obstacle course!
@edoardoprevelato6577
@edoardoprevelato6577 5 ай бұрын
He needs to do a collab with Ivanchuk
@Toshinben
@Toshinben 5 ай бұрын
Chess Wipeout. You play a move and then run a goofy obstacle course, and the whole thing is in rapid format. Only 10% of players get back to the board to make their second move.
@rustyshackleford11
@rustyshackleford11 5 ай бұрын
think you mean most extreme elimination challenge
@stephenelliott7071
@stephenelliott7071 5 ай бұрын
@@Toshinben nobody returns on Takeshi's Castle! The ultimate rook sacrifice.
@reiniervaneijk
@reiniervaneijk 5 ай бұрын
This is called the jump-and-door gambit. Brilliant moves by my man Magnus.
@pavelpospisil5918
@pavelpospisil5918 5 ай бұрын
He made an amazing comeback after blundering the door tactic.
@YannSelka
@YannSelka 5 ай бұрын
I'd call it the Feelindoor Defense
@thomaszhu9973
@thomaszhu9973 5 ай бұрын
Jump-and-Door gambit: Door-Hit tactic, Nudge variation Other Variations you may be interested in: Jump-and-Door gambit: Sigma variation Jump-and-Door gambit: Door-Hit tactic, Squashed variation Jump-and-Door gambit: Punch Counterattack Jump-and-Door gambit: Carlsen Mate
@alexpbeats5678
@alexpbeats5678 5 ай бұрын
What a spectacular jump! Graceful as a stallion, determined like a honey bee 🐝
@iamhesh
@iamhesh 5 ай бұрын
Jumping over rails and crashing into the door was more difficult than the chess for Magnus
@Tooesi
@Tooesi 5 ай бұрын
Magnus literally pre-moved that door but the ping was too high
@4thjulybd809
@4thjulybd809 5 ай бұрын
"it's fine if you prearrange a draw as long as it's a reestablished one". Fide basically
@kindlingking
@kindlingking 5 ай бұрын
If fine if you prearrange the draw if you one of "our" people. And it doesn't apply to just draws.*
@HunterBelkiran
@HunterBelkiran 5 ай бұрын
door gambit - semi open variation.
@reiniervaneijk
@reiniervaneijk 5 ай бұрын
HAHAHHAA😂
@reiniervaneijk
@reiniervaneijk 5 ай бұрын
Not sure if it was the door gambit. Think it was the jump opening, then met by door guy defence, transposition to the door gambit, semi closed - Magnus variation.
@evanling7570
@evanling7570 5 ай бұрын
Chief Arbiter: Knight dance = prearranged draw Also Chief Arbiter: Qe4+ Qe6 Qd4 Qd6 =/= prearranged
@railspony
@railspony 5 ай бұрын
It was not ruled that it was prearranged, though. They were sanctioned for bringing the game of chess into disrepute.
@stephenholt4670
@stephenholt4670 5 ай бұрын
25:00 for a repetition, I think it doesn't matter if it's the same knight or not - it's only the position that matters (plus who plays next and maybe en-passant or castling differences). It was only the second occurrence of the starting position though so not yet a threefold repetition
@grgfrg7
@grgfrg7 5 ай бұрын
Agreed, at this point it was only a twofold repetition but it was indeed a repetition. Surely there must be a match where a draw occurred in a 2 rooks vs 2 rooks endgame in which it was not the exact same rooks creating the repeat position
@SpartaSpartan117
@SpartaSpartan117 5 ай бұрын
That's hilarious. So if they did it again it's a draw by threefold? Or a second time? But regardless the maximum memage was to repeat until threefold
@zoneoff668
@zoneoff668 5 ай бұрын
I don't see how the knight dance is different from the queen dance of the Berlin draw, in either case both player agree to draw from the opening. Plus we had some very sus draws in the rapid event (after 3 moves in the women's section if I recall correctly)
@danielreiser2051
@danielreiser2051 5 ай бұрын
I can follow the arbiter here, its a disrespectful behaviour towards the game and the competition. Unsportsmanlike behaviour. I don't know how it is in chess but in other sports you declare for participation to give always your best and refrain from anything that can harm the game. I like the decision here, but yes its inconsistent.
@jonbbbb
@jonbbbb 5 ай бұрын
Levy explained that the Berlin is optimal play, whereas the knight dance was a bunch of bad moves that could be punished. It's pretty hard to argue that the knight dance wasn't prearranged, whereas the Berlin could at least conceivably be a real game. To me that difference does make one more unsportsmanlike than the other.
@danielandree3947
@danielandree3947 5 ай бұрын
@@jonbbbbthey’re humans not computers, how can you know during the game that the shuffling of the knights was sub optimal gameplay, it’s never been done before, so there’s no way to know that it isn’t optimal play. 😂😂 (playing devils advocate here btw)
@06TenaciouS
@06TenaciouS 5 ай бұрын
Well you said it never been done before. Why? Because it's bad
@ltsMeNoodle
@ltsMeNoodle 5 ай бұрын
@@06TenaciouS Actually, in high-level chess it's essential to play moves that haven't been played before to get the enemy out of their comfort zone. Usually they're played after the opening though.
@reiniervaneijk
@reiniervaneijk 5 ай бұрын
Door opening, door guy defence - half open variant. 😂
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all
@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all 5 ай бұрын
door opening hahahahhaha door guy defence hahahhaha half open variant hahahahahhahah briliant
@parthmaheshwari7136
@parthmaheshwari7136 5 ай бұрын
Deserves more likes
@hassanes3360
@hassanes3360 5 ай бұрын
Mamedyarov needs to start a KZbin channel. Bros playing Guess the Elo in the World Championships
@user-dh3xt4ik6r
@user-dh3xt4ik6r 5 ай бұрын
Srsly broo i was laughing like crazy while watching his game lol like wt ff bruhhh u can play like that even at GM lvl 😂😂😂 i was thinking why he playing like a 400 elo for a while
@blizyon30fps86
@blizyon30fps86 5 ай бұрын
I’m actually surprised that I was able to understand why he made those moves before levy explained it
@coolman000099
@coolman000099 5 ай бұрын
Lmfaooo saying “he protec, he attac” was way funnier than it needed to be
@Exponaut_R-01
@Exponaut_R-01 5 ай бұрын
I dunno why the chess world is so upset at Nepo and Dubov That's the funniest thing on a chess board in a major event since the Bongcloud draw with Magnus and Hikaru
@Tehkenny1
@Tehkenny1 5 ай бұрын
While it may be funny, it can completely decide the end results of the tournament. If you're not willing to play, at least don't do it blatantly.
@greenpony2817
@greenpony2817 5 ай бұрын
They discussed it before the game. And deliberately decided to troll the public instead of making the standard draw. IDK. It was kind of funny
@sonikgain25
@sonikgain25 5 ай бұрын
People nowadays just love being lame so let them be
@Maghan98
@Maghan98 5 ай бұрын
@@greenpony2817 Exactly, they discussed it before the game. Definition of prearranged draw right there
@railspony
@railspony 5 ай бұрын
"I dunno why" proceeds to explain why. It's a world championship event, not a comedy routine, making it into a joke clearly brings disrepute to the game. Funny isn't a defense when you're supposed to be adulting.
@Nothing_here1204
@Nothing_here1204 5 ай бұрын
This dude has been single handedly keeping the chess world alive for a year
@sintaxera
@sintaxera 5 ай бұрын
Magnus deserves a medal for his efforts!
@bigguy-iz2hp
@bigguy-iz2hp 5 ай бұрын
Since it was turned to a double forfeit, are Daniil and Ian 8.5 in the final standings?
@connorskudlarek8598
@connorskudlarek8598 5 ай бұрын
They are indeed at 8.5, per chess-results.
@primtve_dope9568
@primtve_dope9568 5 ай бұрын
​@@connorskudlarek8598didn't they get 0 points each, though? so 8?
@Ravi-yb7mn
@Ravi-yb7mn 5 ай бұрын
@@primtve_dope9568no the 0.5 from the draw got removed so 8.5
@kornobi_3165
@kornobi_3165 5 ай бұрын
Nope. .5 for a tie
@primtve_dope9568
@primtve_dope9568 5 ай бұрын
@@kornobi_3165 yes but wasn't the whole controversy that they both forfeited and thus both got 0 points?
@DanielEscovedo
@DanielEscovedo 5 ай бұрын
At least Dubov and Nepo draw was very aesthetically beautiful, Nepo even posted Dance of the Knights on Twitter. The same cannot be said about Magnus and Hikaru's draw...
@O_79
@O_79 5 ай бұрын
very, very unfair! in chess of all games too. i dont care if magnus-hikaru doubel bongcloud draw did not affect any standings... they deserved the same treatment. though i think nothing should be done about these draws; its just a draw after all.
@oacmd282
@oacmd282 5 ай бұрын
@@O_79 but fide wasn't behind the online tournament that the double bongcloud occured in tho. I don't think it's a fair comparison
@kindlingking
@kindlingking 5 ай бұрын
No, Magnus and Hikaru Bongcloud draw was great too.
@michaelmassaro4375
@michaelmassaro4375 5 ай бұрын
Levy does do a thorough job with the games very quickly as well and makes it clear exactly what transpired
@headbangingidiot
@headbangingidiot 5 ай бұрын
This comment makes it clear what transpired in the video
@danielandree3947
@danielandree3947 5 ай бұрын
@@headbangingidiotthis comment clearly shows exactly what transpired in the comment section.
@vbfilipp
@vbfilipp 5 ай бұрын
I was there in Samarkand in the spectator’s area in the last round, and Dubov already drawn his game was observing the game between Ian and Carlsen. When those two ended their game they still were discussing it, it is when an arbiter called Ian and Daniil to discuss their ‘draw’, and they all went to the arbiters area. This is when I understood they would be punished for their drawn game.
@toSirius
@toSirius 5 ай бұрын
a decision they had to make immediately after the round.
@railspony
@railspony 5 ай бұрын
@@toSirius That doesn't apply to the rule invoked, that's for decisions about the game itself. Here, there were sanctioned for bringing the game of chess into disrepute, and their game was scored as a forfeit in the tournament results, but it will likely still be included as a rated game, the outcome of which wasn't changed.
@ryand8338
@ryand8338 5 ай бұрын
It is messed up that Dubov and Nepo would be leading by half a point if it weren’t for the arbiters decision. If they wanted to enforce this for the first time, they should emphasize it before the tournament, especially a world championship
@vitorwindberg4212
@vitorwindberg4212 5 ай бұрын
The 9.0 score was before the news, they are now 8.5 tied for 2nd place
@ryand8338
@ryand8338 5 ай бұрын
@@vitorwindberg4212 oh. Thanks for clarifying.
@SLauGHTeRHaHa
@SLauGHTeRHaHa 5 ай бұрын
Actually the standings Levy showed was before the decision. They both trail the lead by 0.5 now.
@coleross1562
@coleross1562 5 ай бұрын
i think it’s dumb that players can do 5 moves and offer a draw and that’s seen as proper. at least danil and nepo put on a cute little show
@georgohm_DC
@georgohm_DC 5 ай бұрын
I find this draw (Dubov vs Nepo) funny. I’m really disappointed that the chess world is full of killjoys who dislike it.
@haakonht
@haakonht 5 ай бұрын
Well, in anything that tries to present itself as sport I think having blatant match fixing in the world championship is a bad look but we're allowed to disagree.
@railspony
@railspony 5 ай бұрын
Chess players are surely heartbroken at being called killjoys.
@uniquename6925
@uniquename6925 5 ай бұрын
​@@haakonhtit literally wasn't prearranged though. That's just the excuse they used to punish them for goofing around. If they wanna ban meme openings, then they should make a rule for it. This is just disrespectful to the players.
@ShomilSaxena
@ShomilSaxena 5 ай бұрын
​@@haakonhtIdk I don't get how the Berlin is different
@ia3423
@ia3423 5 ай бұрын
@@ShomilSaxena berlin is different because it isn't neccesarily pre-arranged, one player can choose not to continue the berlin draw and play on, while this is obviously pre-arranged. No one would risk playing a meme opening, risk losing the game when they are top of the standings UNLESS they knew the other player would do the same, which is pre-arrangement.
@queenbrynja
@queenbrynja 5 ай бұрын
Dubov and Nepo are so REAL for this. THEY'RE SO CUTE!!!
@Misteribel
@Misteribel 5 ай бұрын
We exit 2023 knowing that Levi went from ~1M to almost 5M subs. Levi, my man, you're insane in the best way and we all love you! Happy NY!
@Locke19901
@Locke19901 5 ай бұрын
I think I've been here since like 150k subs. Really crazy. Good for him.
@jonaszurba4906
@jonaszurba4906 5 ай бұрын
I think the main difference between Magnus-Hikaru Bongcloud draw and Daniil-Ian knight switch draw is that the Bongcloud was not prearranged. That being said, i dont see anything wrong that if both players want a draw to make it look funny. So unless they implement an offer of a draw by funny moves, I see no problem in players both agreeing to play something funny to agree to a draw. Just like in the Berlin Draw or the Bongcloud, each player is risking the fact that the other might deviate and try to punish them at any moment. The argument for something like the Berlin Draw is that it is engine approved, however, lots of players prepare opening which are "dubious" according to the engine, even some lines that are -2 like the Allagier-Muzio lines in the Vienna Gambit, but require extremely accurate play by the winning side. To conclude: Imo prearranging a game is obviously a problem for the integrity of chess, however doing it for fun when the alternative is to achieve the same thing through more bring means is not really challenging the integrity of the game now is it. Ultimately without any experimentation, be it serious or not, new openings will never be created/explored with objectively bad openings turning out to be quite trappy. Also, the number of players that get attracted to the game for the funny moments like this is also a great benefit for the popularity of chess.
@Futureguitarist15
@Futureguitarist15 5 ай бұрын
I don't think offering a draw before the game starts does anything to the integrity of chess. There's no difference in offering a draw before the 1st move and after the 3rd. If both players want a draw, they're going to draw one way or another. Forcing them to sit down and play a couple moves first doesn't change the outcome. Either way, them being reprimanded for this is absolutely absurd and sets a dangerous precedent imo.
@rousingship
@rousingship 5 ай бұрын
"Yes, that's a free knight. No no no, that's what you would play" Love it Levy, keep up the amazing content!
@albe7292
@albe7292 5 ай бұрын
The door gambit was a surprise, but nobody saw the shoulder sacrifice.
@user-yg6tm6zl4z
@user-yg6tm6zl4z 5 ай бұрын
Draw in 4/3 moves like Andreikin/Kovalev : nah its ok Horses : No.
@nownomad
@nownomad 5 ай бұрын
That opening really surprised Magnus… and he walked right into it.
@NightwindArcher
@NightwindArcher 5 ай бұрын
? that door thing wasn't news-worthy. Magnus sneezes, Gotham: "OMG DID YOU SEE THAT SNEEZE??? HAHAHAHA"
@anushreekumbhare5762
@anushreekumbhare5762 5 ай бұрын
I don't know, but the Knight Dance was nothing but epic.
@bobby491
@bobby491 5 ай бұрын
That second game was BEAUTIFUL
@jst_vjkisoensingh3236
@jst_vjkisoensingh3236 5 ай бұрын
Its a competition so as long as they follow the rules they should not be punished. Thats why you make rules. And if you dont, you cant start making them during a competition.
@HappySisyphus0
@HappySisyphus0 5 ай бұрын
not making pre arranged draws was already a rule
@familienhaugen3608
@familienhaugen3608 5 ай бұрын
So, in addition to losing half a point due to the controversial game, Nepo also lost half a point with his last move against Carlsen, which apparently neither noticed, but was a huge thing on the NRK transmission. Instead of Bxf7 immediately, he can play f4+ first, forcing Ke5, and then Bxf7. The difference is that Carlsen can no longer respond with Rxc6 since Bd5 forks the rook and king.
@LordDTwigo
@LordDTwigo 5 ай бұрын
Imagine. I wouldn't be surprised with the clowns who run these tournaments these days. Chess has become a joke. Not because of the players, but because of incompetent organizers and arbiters who ruined chess as a credible sport.
@misterleegains4020
@misterleegains4020 5 ай бұрын
@@LordDTwigo These organizers made these top players rich, Magnus can't even show up on time to show respect
@user-vc9qt6bc1l
@user-vc9qt6bc1l 5 ай бұрын
Bro this is insane , levy never fails to surprise me with all of the glazing he does.
@TheGoat19397
@TheGoat19397 5 ай бұрын
Pin of shame
@Dirt_Biking111
@Dirt_Biking111 5 ай бұрын
Pin of shame???
@hemish1
@hemish1 5 ай бұрын
pin of shame incoming
@thegodv_
@thegodv_ 5 ай бұрын
pin of real
@2nerC9
@2nerC9 5 ай бұрын
pin of realness and actually true
@fus10n91
@fus10n91 5 ай бұрын
22:59 - Another "THE ROOOOOOOKK" moment 😂 Brilliant content from Levy as always
@MusaGiandra
@MusaGiandra 5 ай бұрын
Mamedyarov such a daredevil, very entertaining.❤
@the_chess_army01
@the_chess_army01 5 ай бұрын
Magnus never fails to hit himself in the face
@mikehall3397
@mikehall3397 5 ай бұрын
Huh
@Josh-dm8uw
@Josh-dm8uw 5 ай бұрын
With his meat
@mn8931
@mn8931 5 ай бұрын
huh? Magnus hit himself in the face
@Vedioviswritingservice
@Vedioviswritingservice 5 ай бұрын
Artemiev won his first six games in commanding style and didn't even get a mention from Levy. Obsessed with Magnus, I get it.
@AndroidPoetry
@AndroidPoetry 5 ай бұрын
He did deserve a mention for sure.
@thabomsiza2502
@thabomsiza2502 5 ай бұрын
Most people watch for Magnus
@somethingelse1232
@somethingelse1232 5 ай бұрын
If u watched the video until the end he showed artemiev having 9 points the same as Magnus.
@blackflag4537
@blackflag4537 5 ай бұрын
​@@somethingelse1232 still didn't even show a single game of his
@lirich0
@lirich0 5 ай бұрын
You right, it would’ve been nice. But if you think it was because of Magnus, you’d be delusional. Gotham covered half a dozen other grandmasters in this video too, who did not necessarily do as “commandingly” as Artemiev. If you expect Gotham to cover Artemiev, don’t be confused about all the other grandmasters he covered too. It was a simple miss, because Gotham didn’t think it’d be attractive to his audience. Nothing to do with Magnus.
@jordanalford2825
@jordanalford2825 5 ай бұрын
Fabi going 3/6 in the first session and then rallying with 5/6 in the second to only be one point behind is wild
@77soko77
@77soko77 5 ай бұрын
"Both kings goin on a spiritual journey" 🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏
@DevilishlyDutch
@DevilishlyDutch 5 ай бұрын
Say what you want about that draw, but that draw is a thousand times funnier and more entertaining than the berlin draw, got a genuine laugh out of me 🤣
@mmkanashiro
@mmkanashiro 5 ай бұрын
for one of the fastest minds of chess, magnus gets late for a lot of games
@gilbertgill6613
@gilbertgill6613 5 ай бұрын
LEVY SENDING YOU LOVE FROM UTAH BROTHER!! LOVE UR CONTENT DUDE! Respect to your grind and effort and always working hard to bring us to the forefront of this incredible drama!
@asmodaeus740
@asmodaeus740 5 ай бұрын
awesome clip at the beginning, love your vids
@ravshanbekrahmonov5197
@ravshanbekrahmonov5197 5 ай бұрын
He has become sooo prominent that even the most negligent, the smallest things happen to him become thumbnails of the videos. I mean no one would notice if this happened to anyone else
@alicepbg2042
@alicepbg2042 5 ай бұрын
correction... less people would notice. people share videos like that online all the time.
@reiniervaneijk
@reiniervaneijk 5 ай бұрын
That's what en passant looks like in real life. Good job Magnus👌
@deathwrow9652
@deathwrow9652 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, someone was recording Magnus when he walked through the door, and the doorman clearly is looking at the recorder when he doesnt let the door open anymore, probably cause he doesnt just want a random person walking into the area following magnus, and magnus was going pretty quick, and he probably just assumed he could adapt to it. He barely has that door open, for like anyone, magnus has to position himself to enter it. Not sure if its a restricted area, but I assume so?
@DrkCarbalt
@DrkCarbalt 5 ай бұрын
This guy narration of chess is great and very easy to follow for a newbie
@dylogysminter
@dylogysminter 5 ай бұрын
I love most Sharkhriyar Mamendyarov games. We need more of him!
@isuckatnames6033
@isuckatnames6033 5 ай бұрын
I don't see why prearanged draws should be treated differently from each other based on the moves made to accomplish it. The knight dance was a nice little spectacle for the audience.
@TheMosayat
@TheMosayat 5 ай бұрын
That knight dance was the funniest chess meme I ever saw no cap 😂 finally surpassing the bongcloud draw FUCK FIDE FOR THE 0-0 RESULT
@MrMickey1040
@MrMickey1040 5 ай бұрын
Levy hitting us with the record scratch moment when he cuts in at the end, lol
@N0Xa880iUL
@N0Xa880iUL 5 ай бұрын
Mamedyarov's games are always insane, bangers.
@joeljude9180
@joeljude9180 5 ай бұрын
My favorite part was when Magnus said "I'M WALKING HERE" and double jumped into the door
@SatoruHashirama
@SatoruHashirama 5 ай бұрын
At this point, even magum carlos's death will be on Gotham chess, I can already see the title" MAGNUM CARLOS PLAYS CHESS IN THE UNDERWORLD"
@reiniervaneijk
@reiniervaneijk 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 bro this comment just made me laugh out loud
@shauryasuri3653
@shauryasuri3653 5 ай бұрын
You are moving the pieces still. Definitely a valid draw.
@321abcdefghijklm
@321abcdefghijklm 5 ай бұрын
They should change the scoring: 1 point for a draw and 3 points for a win. Worked very well in soccer to reduce boring draws.
@jonbbbb
@jonbbbb 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic idea, I didn't know they scored like that in soccer. I wonder if you could even give more points for losing than for drawing, like 0 for draw, 1 for loss, 3 for win.
@simba3610
@simba3610 5 ай бұрын
​@@jonbbbb If I'm playing under these rules against a Hikaru or Magnus I'm literally making fool's mate. Bet I wouldn't be the only one either
@jonbbbb
@jonbbbb 5 ай бұрын
@@simba3610 how would that help you? Keep in mind everybody else would also be avoiding draws.
@evesolis6133
@evesolis6133 5 ай бұрын
what they did was totally the same with Berlin draw or 3 move draw like wtf is this FIDE intervention bs
@YessinToumi
@YessinToumi 5 ай бұрын
I didn't think the door hit was THAT funny
@michaelblankenau6598
@michaelblankenau6598 5 ай бұрын
Me neither . And then you get those people who'll say they never laughed so hard or spit out their coffee laughing .
@theeboseissher
@theeboseissher 5 ай бұрын
yeah same.
@GeistInTheMachine
@GeistInTheMachine 3 ай бұрын
That's actually relatable to me. Sometimes if I am thinking too much or otherwise unfocused, I hit the edge of walls with my shoulders in the apartment.
@jonasdowner
@jonasdowner 5 ай бұрын
i feel like there's a parallel to draw between two neco arcs fighting in melty blood, and the knight game.
@torstencuber9114
@torstencuber9114 5 ай бұрын
Dear Gotham, regarding the Mamedyarov game, it's the trompovsky attack (with v), not the trompousky attack. The problem is, that in many old chess books a "v" often was interpreted as an "u". So in english chess books the trompovsky was written trompousky. But it's Trompovsky!😂
@Nighthound
@Nighthound 5 ай бұрын
Actually it is spelt Trompowsky, named after Octávio Trompowsky en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompowsky_Attack
@amoghbharadwaj382
@amoghbharadwaj382 5 ай бұрын
r/confidentlywrong
@methatis3013
@methatis3013 5 ай бұрын
​​@@Nighthoundthe name Trompowsky is a Polish-Jewish surname, and as such would be read as Trompovski. Similar to Weierstrass or Maria Sklodowska
@VaanG0v
@VaanG0v 5 ай бұрын
Lol, why did he stop opening the door? Was he hoping Magnus would brush against him, granting him a +20% chess buff? Or was he a paid agent, hired to cause Magnus a lingering distracting pain?
@4dragons632
@4dragons632 5 ай бұрын
I'm just happy Magnus looks to be in a good mood. Good effort door guy, you're doing your best in a very mystifying situation. I'm assuming opening that door probably wasn't the guys only job, and he probably had a lot on his mind.
@ilikeanime1610
@ilikeanime1610 5 ай бұрын
he channel all his rage for the door guy through that match
@formidable4748
@formidable4748 5 ай бұрын
Chief Arbiter got his money on Nepo on that one
@4RILDIGITAL
@4RILDIGITAL 5 ай бұрын
Levy's way of spinning chess matches into gripping stories is seriously impressive.
@lessefrost
@lessefrost 5 ай бұрын
Sacking the rook to clog up the queen's access the the board was brilliant chess
@AJD...
@AJD... 5 ай бұрын
A prearranged draw is still a prearranged draw. Asking them to Play an opening just for the sake of it is such a pretentious thing to do. There's virtually no difference in a berlin draw and what Daniil and Ian did. Except they made me smile, whereas a boring draw didn't. The penalty on them is a joke.
@HappySisyphus0
@HappySisyphus0 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure FIDE prefer making people smile rathen than making sure players are making a mockery of the game, if both players play good moves a chess game will end in a draw, that is what happens in the berlin, that is no what happened in Nepo and Duvob's game
@SuperYtc1
@SuperYtc1 5 ай бұрын
0:44 - Carlsen walks into a door 1:50 - Vid starts 24:20 - WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FORFEIT!!!!!!!
@ShihammeDarc
@ShihammeDarc 5 ай бұрын
Punishing Nepo and Dubov for following the rules is insane.
@HappySisyphus0
@HappySisyphus0 5 ай бұрын
I would believe prearranged results are not in the rules
@lillemy5062
@lillemy5062 5 ай бұрын
Ian and Daniil just wanted to show how the knights move
@dragonsomethings
@dragonsomethings 5 ай бұрын
You are the only person that can make watching chess fun for me
@adriangutierrez2670
@adriangutierrez2670 5 ай бұрын
I LOVED the double forfetit decision. BEAUTIFUL!
@SteweCompilations
@SteweCompilations 5 ай бұрын
I'm sad about the forfeit because I find it actually pretty funny. At the same time the rule mentioned in the paper definitely should be in place, so I understand the decision.
@raylopez99
@raylopez99 5 ай бұрын
The rule is vague. What 'brings chess into disrepute' is subjective. Actually the Fide report that said MC raised the awareness of chess by refusing to play HN is an example of this; even FIDE said they would not punish MC for refusing to play MC since it raised the status of chess. I think such a clever 'draw' is also in the same territory.
@SteweCompilations
@SteweCompilations 5 ай бұрын
@@raylopez99 yea I understand that and it is why I find the whole thing funny, yet it is difficult to see how this goes beyond the chess world, but maybe I am wrong
@KouroshKryptic
@KouroshKryptic 5 ай бұрын
29:46 I wasn't expecting these words from a chess meme god. They were just having fun I see nothing wrong with it
@kanelandes3485
@kanelandes3485 5 ай бұрын
The knight dance is just funny. The fact of it happening is worth the punishment
@doghouseriley4732
@doghouseriley4732 5 ай бұрын
So two players meet before a game, and agree to engineer a draw. In most sports that would be called cheating.
@chesscomsupport8689
@chesscomsupport8689 5 ай бұрын
The Nepo-Dubov fallout is kind of ironic considering how, a few years ago, Dubov found himself in a small bit of controversy when he collaborated with Carlsen instead of with Nepo during their WCC preparations. Now that Dubov does collaborate with Nepo, this happens.
@calvinvlog768
@calvinvlog768 5 ай бұрын
magnus is why levy’s famous, levy is why magnus is famous.
@Kpsla
@Kpsla 5 ай бұрын
That game with Mamedyarov looked like a Guess the ELO game.
@master_Gz
@master_Gz 5 ай бұрын
Bro always finds a way to add Magnus in his videos
@prodmoira
@prodmoira 5 ай бұрын
Well yeah he won the tournament💀
@josec.5517
@josec.5517 5 ай бұрын
Levy never fails to change video titles multiple times after release
@galoomba5559
@galoomba5559 5 ай бұрын
It's a youtube strat to get more views
@BobChess
@BobChess 5 ай бұрын
Imagine Agamator recaps the drama and said "and just after the first move, we are now in the completly new game"
@user-ym6bt3ck6y
@user-ym6bt3ck6y 5 ай бұрын
Poor GM's can't walk through a door without becoming a meme
@danielengelhardt7453
@danielengelhardt7453 5 ай бұрын
Win = 3 Lose =1 Draw == 0 FIde fighting chess. Also thanks Levy for making the recap and your dramatic chess coverage.
@commentwarrior
@commentwarrior 5 ай бұрын
Did you ever play an over the board tournament?
@Thperson527
@Thperson527 5 ай бұрын
Levy never fails to push doors at magnuses face
@nellieb6585
@nellieb6585 5 ай бұрын
I for one, find 8 knight moves in a row in the opening absolutely hilarious
@jackkaczmarski
@jackkaczmarski 5 ай бұрын
4:14 Didn't find the move but didn't hang my queen. Baby steps. I played Bxg6 (still +1.4 but not the best move).
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