World Cup: Wang Hao-Timo Boll

2010 Men's World Cup , Magdeburg, GER, Oct 29 - Oct 31. Men's Singles Semifinal.

[@fahadmubeen6272]

Wang hao back hand is just amazing showing the strength of reverse penhold

[@LeTDDswag]

Wang Hao gave Timo a true table tennis lesson here

[@ericye9762]

When Wang Hao started to learn TT as a child, his father was the first teacher. Wang's father told Wang to use RPB instead of traditional blocking. After being selected for the national team, Wang Hao's coach further upgraded his RPB. Wang Hao , the god of RPB (Reverse Penhold Backhand)! Made in China !

[@badcompany2984]

Wang Hao my favourite Chinese player.

[@MatthewHALO3star]

i'm telling you, "the pen holder grip is lethal".

[@PraisePrayPeace]

Wang Hao seems like god of table tennis here ... timo boll is legendary to have been able to win one set against this wang hao

[@hkjkdsifu]

Wang played very well! Changing his angles superbly!

[@cuplduncan]

Timo Boll is a great table tennis player. Love from China.

[@melgdr]

timoboll have phobia with wang hao.. many times they got played but wang hao always the winner.. but timoboll was a great player, your always be the number 1 for me..=)

[@TTTTCJGKS]

Wang Hao actually lost to Timo in the 2005 World Cup Final so I think Hao is pissed at Timo and showing no remorse lmao.

[@gammatnt]

love these 2 players. thanks for the video

[@empireentertainmentevents1353]

'Penhold players have weak backhand!'. WANG HAO : 'Am I a joke to you'??

[@fernso2004]

Wang Hao is a nightmare to play against - a penholder with a consistently strong backhand. He is a true master of RPB.

[@GecaPhoenix]

I'm sorry for Timo...Wang Hao's BH is INCREDIBLE!:P Thanks ttCountenance,as usual perfect quality and amazing job!;)

[@niklwitart]

wang hao is back. thanks for the video ttcountenance ;)

[@Cyber-Journey]

grats to wang hao, extremely well played game. i love watching him. i think i like watching timo more, you may see him frustrated, but i can't think of a time when he's ever shown unsportsmanlike behavior

[@yorch877]

Not Timo Boll's best match but he's still our hero

[@Guoguodi]

Looks like the analysts on the Chinese team came up with good advice. Wang Hao really exploited Timo's weakness by forcing him to block on his BH so much. It's good to see Wang Hao back in top form too! Timo has to switch his grip every time he transitions between FH to BH or vice versa, which forces him to be much more passive in his blocking and limits his control over the rallies. That said, it takes a player of Wang Hao's caliber to exploit this weakness effectively.

[@miftahulkhairi5760]

The best penholder backhand of all the time

[@snotberg123]

does nobody want to show some love to Wang Hao?! BEST WISHES FROM ASIAN-AMERICANS HAO

[@qingian]

Wang Hao here shows the importance of training. No doubt back at the team house, there are at least 2-3 lesser players who train everyday to imitate Boll's every move, so that Wang can get as much practice against Boll's tricks and steps as he needs. On the other hand, Boll is 'alone' as far as that goes, and his coach Rosskopf has not fared well against Wang in the past either.

[@Irfan87]

Wang Hao's RPB is just insane.

[@sallom432]

WOHOOOOOOOOO !!!!!! FINALLLYYYYYY!

[@respekt200]

Hao is back!

[@GyariSan1]

Wang Hao must be a pretty frustrating player to play against as he doesn't really have any real weakness despite using penhold grip. That reverse backhand is absolutely lethal and in this match he was clearly on fire.

[@rcmontecalvo]

i'm waiting for the day when wang hao would be number one once more

[@TabletennisDavid]

@Guoguodi Great analysis!

[@jSlipkNoTj]

timo lo tiene todo, juega limpio gran vision de juego inteligencia y como en este partido el sabe perder ES EL JUGADOR MAS QUERIDO DE TODO EL TENIS DE MESA Or Table Tennis

[@lawrencemonsieur2627]

Problem here was Timo not trusting his BH enough. Therefore, he always turned to pivot resulting in not only time loss, but also a loss in pressure against Wang. Wang exploited this marvelously, winning like half of his points with this tactic. In the end, the high pressure game from Wang was just too much to handle for Timo. Often, it was almost painful to watch the difference in level between the two.

[@VADIBOY007]

King!

[@frickenbaba]

Timo Boll hit the net A LOT.

[@yilawren]

3:28 commentary side-back spin serve. light touch, top spin return. light touch, back spin return. net touch. spins back to other side.

[@peperruti]

@JackIntheBK Yes sir.. im a Timo Boll fan and what you say makes total sense...

[@narayannir]

pen holders rock

[@gsofficial]

@IngopienGer Timo's BH focuses more on spin than speed. It's the most consistent of all top players, but you are right that he seldom uses it to finish points like, say, Ma Long, Wang Hao, or Kreanga.

[@2797bos]

timo boll is the best .

[@simonchan2514]

gentleman

[@novemberschopin]

hell yes

[@Haiman9]

Timo's backhand needs alot of improvement.

[@max095]

Great game by Wang Hao, nice ball placement, otherhand, bad day for boll... by the way, those somebody know where can I get those wang hao shoes?... or at least tell me wich brand are then.... (:

[@lrdmiddlefinger]

dang.. what a waxing!

[@xcao1365]

Like most European players, Timo's forehand is problematic, not strong enough. Often, Wang Hao just used his forehand to oppress Timo's backhand. Timo lost many points in this circumstance.

[@Paul-zv9kv]

X Cao timos tactics isnt to get the point by the first ball. He creates a lot more spin than others and has a better ball placement

[@DocCouz]

We are really far from the Timo we used to see... One of the 1st time at 4:54 I see him bcoming so excited!

[@JasonZou0]

@narayannir It is really reverse back hand that rocks. Penholders without RBH don't stand a big chance against shakehands.

[@radioheadnyc]

WH is finally getting more confident

[@TTridata]

Both played well but Wang Hao is a machine.

[@peperruti]

@Opalance I don't agree with you but i respect your opinion though... Timo Boll is the Best non chinesse player that can beat them, and has beaten them, regardless of anything... He is one of the best players aswell in Topspin vs Topspin play.

[@2ShaePussyCat]

Timo missed alot this game :(

[@CooleYouri]

@Swedishnerd topspin, he barely hitted the ball that means the effect on it will increase:) very difficult

[@HEriNg90]

@keineahnung1978 welche fehler meinst du denn?

[@PakiEagle1]

pin holders are the best

[@lumm71]

Incredible backhand: 01:56.

[@Swedishnerd]

What was that shot at 0:16??? Was it a chop or a topspin? How did he do that?

[@Opalance]

@pprruti He has like a 30% win rate against them though, that's pathetic that he's the best of the rest and yet he has a losing record to all the Chinese...

[@lyrock]

@max095 wang hao and other chinese national players are wearing MIZUNO shoes.

[@pengfeiDu83]

Timo Boll was very a little bit angry and totally speechless at the end. when he showed his emotion on his face and movements he already lost the game.

[@DKPOWA]

3:28 so much backspin xD 4:09 SO MUCH TOPSPIN, possibly, the BH topspin with more amount of effect in history :P All in all, a somewhat interesting match, even though WH crushed TB :D

[@keineahnung1978]

@Pege17 hat doch damit nix zu tun....mir ist nur aufgefallen , dass atm dort fehler macht , wo er früher keiner fehler gemacht hat.....

[@Swedishnerd]

@Iliketoplay89 Ah, I see. I wonder if he hit it like that on purpose though to confuse Boll or if it was a fortunate mishit. Thanks for your replies!!

[@jonnydalberg3981]

4:53 timo boll got angry?

[@junior81291]

Que surra!

[@17teacmrocks]

@AMYVOICE looks like he hurt himself. when he was walking, he shifted his weight off the left leg. and he seemed defeated from the beginning so it's not like he was losing then gave up

[@MrPoorplay]

@Tamarovboy Yeah, it is. I just said that because Boll acted weird in the 5th set but now I think it's due to the fact that he wasted too many points.

[@tanxu]

wang hao is enjoying himself again!! timo did not have a good day at all

[@nicholastang1217]

TIMO was angry!!!btw..wong hao is brilliant

[@vivek65522]

TT is the only racket game where you can invite your opponent to play shots(lobbying) , you do that in Badminton , or Tennis you are doomed :P

[@peperruti]

@yorch877 (Y) Yes sirrrr...

[@Opalance]

@wasdwasdedsf Wow, you waited over 3 months to reply to this? If you mean Ma Long's loss to Chan Kazuhiro (one of his 3 losses in 2010, him, Timo Boll, and Wang Liqin) he was injured and also Chan is Chinese who moved to Japan to play. And Chan is #53 in the world, so easily top 100. Timo Boll lost 11 matches in 2010 and Ma Long lost 3, yet Timo Boll takes over the #1 spot even though he went 2 wins 7 losses against the Chinese in 2010.

[@kandot84]

@aftermath1983 really?

[@PakiEagle1]

@MrPoorplay yes that he cant play with wang hwo

[@peperruti]

@Opalance Yes it is true... but it's not pathetic though, because all of us fans waisting our time watching these videos by youtube, would wish to play like Timo Boll and be in his place or any other player's place... regardless of nationality.

[@yilawren]

good boll lost, now i can say... boll had hard time executing rallies. some say, all you have to do I get the ball to the other side of the table. But, you also have to get the other guy to miss. difference between good player and winning player.

[@yobmas722]

wang hao is not really explosive here but he still rocked

[@iamkeisler]

@JackIntheBK oh ye of high expectations...

[@joeylim7002]

owned

[@viproxor]

@MrPoorplay So? He always is good player but now he got bad day.Everyone good player got in life bad days.

[@malongsserve4735]

Wang Hao plays like a shakehand player, Xu Xin plays like a penhold player.

[@AMYVOICE]

What happened to Timo Boll? He is not at his best condition obviously.

[@Kojidom1]

war timo besoffen oder so? o.o

[@mrkazuya5467]

Timo Boll gehört schon seit Jahren nicht mehr zur Weltspitze... Was der manchmal für einen Tischtennis anbietet, da kriegt man in der Bezirksliga besseres TT

[@SlimRickyable]

Seit Jahren? Das ist völlig übertrieben. Stelle doch mal bitte einen Bezirksligaspieler beim WTTC vor Ma Long und sage ihm, er soll ihm 2 Sätze abknüpfen. Boll ist zwar nicht mehr auf dem Höhepunkt seiner Karriere, aber immer noch ein absolutes Vorbild, was Kampf- und Sportsgeist angeht. :)

[@mrkazuya5467]

Ein Vorbild ist er allemale, das will ich auch nicht sagen, sondern im Vergleich mit vielen Chinesen. Er Hat meiner Meinung nach keine Chance mehr gegen "die Großen" und Ovtcharov ist ihm auch weit vorraus.

[@SlimRickyable]

MrKazuya Diese Aussage ist schon treffender. :D Was Ovtcharov im Moment zeigt ist wirklich ganz große Klasse. Was mich an Deinem ersten Kommentar so gestört hat war wohl der Vergleich mit der Bezirksliga, der ist Boll nämlich immer noch etliche Meilen voraus. :)

[@GaryMations]

SlimRickyable Mein Gott, hat doch selber auf fb gepostet das seine erste Tochter geboren wurde, gebt dem Jungen doch ein wenig Zeit. Außerdem hatte Timo immer wieder Up und Downs, so ist er nunmal. Außerdem war er ja Anfang 2011 #1

[@TTundPP]

Wenn Timo Boll 100 Aufschläge hintereinander macht, und einem Bezirksliga-Spieler sogar noch ansagt, was für ein Schnitt drin ist, wird dieser trotzdem keinen Einzigen zurück bringen! Timo Boll gibt nicht einen einzigen Punkt gegen nen Bezirksliga Spieler ab!

[@AdamBobrow]

Yeah. Wang Hao played well... but it was a tough day for Timo as well. I haven't seen him miss so many balls since he played Tiago in Austria... hmmm... ok, but outside of that... he usually plays better 8>)

[@TTTTCJGKS]

Surprised to see you commenting on a video such a long time ago. I actually wanted to hear your thoughts on Wang Hao's style and weather you think he's one of the best of all time or not.

[@dickn.ormous1064]

Seems like Adam has always been a Boll fanboi.Boll could never keep up with the Chinese but every one acts surprised when he loses.Yeah he beat Ma Lin,Wang Hao and Wang Liquin back to back in 2005 World Cup but the Word Cup was played exactly the day after their Internal tournament was finished and they were extremely fatigued.The World Cup itself lasts 2 days and carries little significance to the Chinese.

[@AdamBobrow]

@@TTTTCJGKS Yeah. This is fascinating for me. 4 years before I started commentating on matches... I probably wouldn't write a comment like the one I wrote above, since I started working with ITTF. I think Wang Hao IS one of the best of all time and he has the best RPB of any player I've ever seen. I think he spent 27 months at world #1...(just off of memory... sorry if I am wrong), but yeah... I think he is also the only player with more than 3 matches against Ma Long to have a winning record (according to the ITTF H2H records). I am definitely a fan of Wang Hao. 8>). PS- His son is quite a golfer too. 8>)

[@AdamBobrow]

@@dickn.ormous1064 I am definitely a fan of Timo... partially for his incredible humility and sportsmanship (he's incredibly kind and to everyone) and the fact that he has been one of the greatest threats to the Chinese for the past 2 decades. That being said... I agree with you that for the top Chinese players, the records are in their favor and the head-to-head stats show that. I guess it's always been impressive to me that when Timo has played some incredible matches and created some big opportunities to pull off big wins and upsets, that Fan Zhendong or Ma Long have still been able to come back in the end. While he is 4 and 16 against Ma Long, I think he is one of only two players outside of the Chinese National Team to beat Ma Long more than twice in ITTF events (only second to Vladi... who has a 5 and 8 record against Ma Long). I am a fan of many of the players, aware of the stats more or less and am often excited to see the underdogs raise their level to occasionally challenge the Chinese stars who have clearly raised the bar over the last several decades. 8>)

[@dickn.ormous1064]

@@AdamBobrow He's kind but also incredibly well marketed he even offered online skype video lessons for 600 Euro per hour.Mikael Appelgren charged 300 dollars for 5 days summer camp+full accommodation.Guess who's the money milking machine...Yup,the humble one.

[@3011Jannik]

schade dass timo nicht so gut drauf war

[@theclesan514]

You will be angry if you make mistake when doing 1+1

[@22christos]

@pprruti im a big fun of timo but definately he is not one of the best at topspin vs topspin..

[@Mryousonastyful]

you can always tell when it was timo's point because a deep voiced crowd roar goes off haha

[@Opalance]

@wasdwasdedsf Because Boll is supposed to be the best non-Chinese in the world and he got destroyed.

[@Spackoschach]

@max095 MIZUNO Wave Medal try google ;)

[@gustavmardby9364]

Timo did not play well in the last set. But i´m not complaining, I´ve been in that situations a couple times myself and I know exactly how it feels. Wang hao played really good though

[@nanoleks]

I knew Wang Hao was lookin for european blood hahaha

[@tsantsanb]

poor Boll

[@MrPoorplay]

there's something wrong with boll

[@bryszkn]

Timo probably had a thigh injury

[@wasdwasdedsf]

so no more attempts at arguments then? completely given up?

[@falconisko]

4:54 Timo looks pretty mad, kinda like a sulking kid.... not a good day for Timo at all, no footwork, no power, a lot of mistakes, bad server returns....something was definitely off... although, i still lov u Timmy

[@keineahnung1978]

in letzter zeit ist timo nicht mehr so konstant wie früher...... schade. was nicht heißt dass er total schlecht spielt

[@SnowConeHospitalers]

He never loses...wtf

[@nitale55688]

Timo Boll had Hard Leg Problems before the World Cup. he coudnt Play that much before.

[@user-tc4mp8pw4x]

Sorry timo wang hao much better

[@XMcNealX]

i was there...timo had a bad form....

[@terrain666]

he`s drog.. :D

[@MrSchoppes]

shakehands rocks