World of Warships- Illinois First Impressions: WTF Is This Thing??!!

[@moonytheloony6516]

For those out there who struggle with the correct pronunciation of "Illinois" as this appears to be a more common problem than I realized. The "S" in Illinois IS silent. It's pronounced "illin-noy" 😜

[@jaecaver1957]

As an Illinois native, thank you for your service

[@moonytheloony6516]

@@jaecaver1957 You're Welcome!

[@NegotiatorGladiarius]

I will second the idea that the aiming module is generally the better choice. The reason is that -11% to dispersion may sound less than the 12% reload speed, but actually that 11% reduces the area in which the shells land to 0.89*0.89=0.7921 of the original ellipse. That's an almost 21% reduction in the area where the shells land, and usually an even bigger increase in how much of that is filled by the enemy ship.

[@deaninchina01]

Is that how it is calculated though?

[@charakiga]

​@@deaninchina01 Still better than a 12% reload. Do you prefer shooting SLIGHTLY more often or have more accuracy? It's not like you constantly shoot everytime it finished reloading. It's better to know your shots are gonna be accurate than be like "eh, it missed, better luck in 25 seconds" or something (idk the reload speed but you get the idea).

[@NegotiatorGladiarius]

@@deaninchina01 Yes, because it is -11% on both radii of the ellipse. Ergo, squared, etc. Well, exactly how the shells land statistically in that ellipse is also using the sigma, but that is a constant for the ship and no module will change that.

[@lonnyyoung4285]

I would classify it as an ultraheavy cruiser.

[@LincolnGeaney]

Chunky de moins without radar

[@nualanet]

The problem with the game introducing these proposed designs is that they never get used for their actual intended purpose. The design for the Illinois was to incorporate the fully-automated dual purpose 8" guns, 5" guns, and the late war 3" AA replacements for the 40mm Bofors...into an Iowa tough Anti-Aircraft platform... Not a "Large Cruiser". Same with the several DD's that were designed specifically for ASW work... and cruisers designed also as AA platforms. How many will set up their Illinois as an AA platform?

[@thisguy8373]

I just started this game myself, use to playing a lot of war thunder, still do for tanks, but never got use to the naval part.. I can say this game is nice for playing naval warfare

[@Gopher31]

It’s very fun and I’m getting similar damage levels to my Musashi. These guns are amazing against cruisers and destroyers at close range.

[@nanowarrior01]

Musashi is about t9 tanking , It has a huge health pool. Can Illinois tank like Musashi

[@Gabriel-Kazu]

Absolutely love all of your videos. But for the love of God the S in Illinois is silent.

[@deaninchina01]

Same with the Brisbane. Say it like an Aussie. Brizbin

[@drakecampbell3391]

It's a fun ship to play, you do however from my experience as well will become the focus of everybody on other team. I've had some stupid high potential damage games in this ship.

[@waverleyjournalise5757]

New ship syndrome. Give it a few weeks and nobody will care

[@drakecampbell3391]

@Waverley Journalise very true makes my potential damage numbers look good

[@meneldal]

Well it helps with those 20M+ missions

[@chromosomecommander7118]

@@waverleyjournalise5757 i always focus it in a bb because it can start a trillion fires while tanking, especially since i play german & french bbs

[@tahiribnmohammad5410]

Easy to get into brawls with this ship, also expert loader is a must. Turrets are also a bit squishy

[@Tranzzform]

this was my third RB ship and I love it. Going in and womping on cruisers and DD's is awesome. It is alot of fun. would it be a competitive ship nope of the RB ships i think only the Ohio really fits that bill, but if you like the Dakka this is the boat for you. being able to sit at 50% health comfortable because you are a BB getting full use of the AR oh my so much fun.

[@MH-kc1eu]

You make amazing and in-depth videos, keep it up!

[@andrewblackmore3150]

Useful for missions, personal challenges that require BB main battery hits

[@Neneset]

If nothing else, this ship makes “hits with main battery” BB tasks trivial, even if you have to use co-op to do it.

[@wojtek1582]

Yeah, that was my first thought when I saw it :D

[@jamescarlin1681]

I did not know which ship to get with my research points, so I waited for this ship. And now I have it.

[@davestevens1600]

There is no NOISE in Illinois

[@dakotamike]

Yes! I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed! It’s pronounced I’ll-I-noy. Not noise! 😂

[@Dave_Allen]

got it,. like it. It works just fine in ranked and easily works when up-tiered.

[@cheekychap1199]

Imagine the Wisconsin is a tier 10 but it’s gimmick (due to its unfortunate accident and repair) has a bow that’s unovermatchable. Maybe like 45mm. That is all.

[@davidbeauchemin1840]

1 year, later. The gimmick is a funny button.

[@cheekychap1199]

@@davidbeauchemin1840 and it’s so generic and sad

[@xzarial6652]

Still can’t decide if this ship is gonna be op in expert hands pushing out huge damage and tanking numbers!

[@OnlyAfcc]

It's OP even in good hands, not expert. I did 180k in first battle and if you get used to shell velocity, it's very powerfull. In ranked battles I do normally > 100k damage every battle. I'm average player with about 49% WR

[@carvecraftworks7523]

Illinoisssssss Des Moinessssss lol. The S is silent. Sorry had a laugh. Good video.

[@sealordmountbatten]

We respect the S here sir lol

[@wofle39]

This thing looks exactly like my kind of goofy fun, probably gonna grab this once I have the Ohio.

[@adiaz36]

Thanks for the review.

[@irishwind1971]

I want to like the Illinois. But you pointed out the weakness: No one wants to push up, so you are stuck lobbing shells at max range hoping the other guy forgot to activate their WASD hacks. The couple matches where my team did play push up she is fun. But when the game stagnates to long range camping, the thinner armor and loss of 10k HP sucks. Especially

[@apollo3055]

I heard in ranked she is almost overpowered, maybe try her in that

[@pegasusted2504]

I saw PQ's vids on this and wondered if you would find it fun :~)

[@sealordmountbatten]

It’s fun when you have mid-close range battles, but it got put through the ringer last night by the current meta

[@NewYTof1493]

​@@sealordmountbatten As an ASIA server player, i wish it had mid to close battles, because it didn't. 😅

[@StillReload]

pretty cursed little bit OP platform, having a BB tankiness and reliable DPM as cruiser also capability to fire over island reliably.

[@Nutty31313]

I saw you firing a lot of HE in that battle, but I'm curious whether the AP would be more effective. Don't get me wrong, I know you're not going to get citadels at long range, and especially against bow in BBs the HE will be better. However, those AP shells are only ricocheting at 60-68 degrees, and at 19km your shells are going to be hitting decks at about 60 degrees, and even less at longer range, and at that range your AP deck pen is more than 90mm. This might make Illinois one of the few battleships where plunging fire AP is actually viable because the range to not ricochet is so short, compared to for example Montana where that range is 28-30km, at which point your shell travel time is actually longer than Illinois has at most of its ranges. Also, at this 19-21km range in Illinois, you're not going to pen battleship belts, but you can still get pens on superstructure, bow/stern plating and so on, as well as probably a decent number of cruisers.

[@penguinslayer7013]

Watching the chat was fun.

[@John_McCarthy1]

What bothers me about this ship is that the Superstructure doesn't look like it should, like why does it still have the raise fire control position which isn't present on the design? why does it have the two smoke funnels of Iowa and not the single trunked funnel from the proposal? why does it just have the 10 twin 5"/38 mounts instead of 16 twin 5"/54 mounts? The answer is laziness, or at least I wish I could say that but they made the effort to add the weird looking aft radar tower, which is also not present in design G (which Illinois is based of since Design G is the proposal with 3 turrets as opposed to F with 2 turrets and H with 4 turrets). I suppose that is an attempt to avoid claims of it being a complete and total copy-paste with swapped guns.

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

This BB is going to be a killer in Brawling

[@JohnWilliams-sq7cj]

No. You have to kite loke a zao or nevsky. Sttaight up brawling it gets blasted. Use it just like a DM behind islands or ambush with a smoke dd.

[@sargisshirinyan207]

Love the Illinois! They should make a T10 version with Alaska guns.

[@Rio_1111]

The TX should get 4x4 guns on a montana hull

[@simselmore5625]

That would be a good idea (If the blueprints existed which they dont)

[@sargisshirinyan207]

@@simselmore5625 when did WG ever care about blueprints

[@simselmore5625]

@@sargisshirinyan207 fair point

[@danh7411]

@@simselmore5625 USS Kentucky scheme H.

[@thh1997ptvn]

“It’s essentially a tankier, *slower*, tougher Des Moines” Me happens to outrun the aforementioned ship at 37.5 knots (thanks to brisk & speed flag 👀)

[@ninetenduh]

While I want the Illinois, I am not going to subject myself through the painful reset of most lines, I usually wait for 2x and reset the St. Vincent line, it is an enjoyable line.

[@thomasfeiller2207]

the super ships should be limited to tier 10 matches.

[@indra8188]

Ships kinda op imo

[@Devil_Dog2023]

They would have been better off going with the 16in gun idea instead of the cruiser guns and i really believe it would have made the ship better

[@arizona_anime_fan]

the aiming mod is easily the best choice for this thing. missing 1/2 your shots kill your dps far worse then 12% reload boost. this thing is insanely strong for a t9... it should be a t10. got into a fight with one in a thunderer, and had the guy with the Illinois been familiar with desi play and had someone spotting for him, i would have lost that fight easily. instead, he was spotted by my team, and i was able to use islands to remain unspotted, and burnt him to the ground. i have zero illusions how that fight would have went if the situation was different. scary boat

[@JohnWilliams-sq7cj]

Nah, youve got hit points range better aing,.much better fire chance and harder ap. I have both Thunderer and Illinois, if Thunderer ays Illinois at range,.Illinos gets mopped. Thunderer comes in with He at 63% , then switchs to Ap,, Illinos gets mopped. Illinos player is smart to stay behind ilsnads playing agqinst a Thundy, Thumdy is overmatch city. Illinos ks no way op that new ship hype.

[@kaollachan]

so who is best in a French cruiser with BB gun VS the BB with cruiser gun?

[@nonamegermany4583]

Interesting, that ship has smaller caliber Main guns than atlanticos secondary guns.

[@sardaukerlegion]

Check the reload time. Buffalo, not DesMoines guns. Medium range: good for ranked?

[@Stonecrow99]

nope theyre des moines guns, 203mm/55/ rf mk16

[@Stonecrow99]

buffalos is mk15

[@nguyenanh6943]

7/10 for this broken ship is crazy

[@sealordmountbatten]

Once you get out past 16km, the shell flight time starts to make life difficult. Like I said, if you are blessed by MM enough to get constant close range games, it’s really an 8/10.

[@bobcattrell7667]

have to get it. its the only research buro ship i dont own. looks fun

[@faynk.6247]

Just some content suggestion but it would be fun if you can make an iceberg explained type video of Wows.

[@admiralmoszi9859]

Just make the historical planned Illinois don't butcher more states 😭😭😭

[@meatpiman224]

10-2 127's secondaries ..... secondary build for sure.

[@ArekishiKishi]

need to grind some lines to get her , looks goofy hope we have t9 operations some day wonder how good secondary setup will be in my pve skillset also people in your chat are lets say quite lively xD

[@bikeguy3034]

Your hopes are granted! 😂

[@karenyeary5138]

They should of just made Wisconsin so they could have an Iowa that you can buy with research points

[@thomasgarrison3949]

It should have had 12 16" 54 caliber guns. Then it would murder the Yamato.

[@lonnyyoung4285]

Look at the Tillman battleship designs, particularly II and the IV designs.

[@stwright84]

If Illinois is your 1st RB ship, you only need to reset 2 times with the bonus as you start with 10K and get 20400 with each 2x reset.

[@linnymiddy]

If you got 10k rb points from the battle passes and played consistently you going to need to just reset a single line with x2 rb points reset

[@lightningwingdragon973]

"If your used to staring at Iowa's in game" Me, who's visiting BB NJ for the 4th time, yet doesn't have it unlocked in game yet. "Yea...in game..." (Ps no, I don't believe irl is a simulation)

[@keithw4920]

When I heard DM guns I was excited. Then I found out they nearly doubled the reload.... bleah. I think the next thing we need is a Slava hull with 20 Smolensk quads.

[@ACJPS_1]

Great vid!

[@micklane7306]

After playing a through all of bronze ranked today I heavily disagree with this ships competitiveness. Ranked matches are basically always close range fights and because of that this ship excellent in dealing with enemy cruisers dd's and bb's. Also to the point of armor 32mm is still far and away very good l. If you angle away from your opponent while moving quarter speed you can have all 3 turrets firing and the majority of enemy ap will still bounce/ shatter. I did this to an FDG, an Iowa, and a Amagi and none of them got any significant hits on me.

[@micklane7306]

Also Iowa also has 32 mm torp belt and Georgia has a 38 mm upper and side plate but also still has 32 mm torp belt as for as I can tell Missouri is the only one with full 38 mm plating making it technically the most tanks but again Georgia's 38mm goes very nearly to the waterline so she's still quite well protected. And again 32mm will protect against 406 over match so the only ships that are likely to do significant damage through the torp belt are Musashi and Georgia but at that point if they're so close you can pretty much dpm them to death before they get you.

[@raynibbs4679]

Thank you sir.

[@simselmore5625]

There was so much salt in the gameplay chat that I had a hard time actually focusing on the voiceover and gameplay lmao. The way people get worked up over this stupid game is just hilarious

[@demosearies7591]

I actualy did go secondary build, not for secondaries, but to give me an additional -10% reload, and went with the reload mod instead of the range for more reload boost.. just have to try to stay within 8 to 10 km from enemies.. it was a very fun seat of your pants game play..

[@Krazmedic]

As a resident of that state, the S is silent

[@DerultimateKeks]

Ridiculously broken in ranked due to close range and protected matchmaking. Played whole Bronze league without a single loss

[@mikedignum1868]

Looks like you had a hard time getting a good game with this last night. I don't think I'd go for it.

[@NoName-wi8xz]

Watch pqs videos on this hip, he had 300k game in it

[@sealordmountbatten]

@@NoName-wi8xz in the right situation, definitely, but last night’s stream was a very good demonstration of the current meta. 5-7 minute blowout matches, most ships staying at 16km+, super passive gameplay. Hell the match in the video was still mostly long range, it just managed to last long enough for the Illinois to be able to do SOMETHING.

[@NoName-wi8xz]

@@sealordmountbatten Yes thats true, but thats the case for many ships, something like conq or yamto do well in current meta but these kind of ships are exception. I havent played this ship but i think that it has huge potential, sometimes it might be hard to use it fully in randoms but overall, its very very strong. Its propably going to be a monster in something like ranked

[@shogunneko8958]

I just hate that its a reaearch ship rather than a coal or dabloon ship I play casually so its not easy at all for me to get

[@jackcasse]

I want one so bad

[@pepeman69_24]

Big american scharnhorst vibes

[@jensgaus781]

Seems to be the American "Mainz" regarding her guns.

[@firstequinox9869]

why is this ship tier 9

[@rickwong-stkexecsecretary793]

Lord, just to let you know that the "s" is not pronounced in Illinois

[@carlconley8956]

Still hoping for the kentucky.

[@floundergearjam]

Pretty soon, WG will have a BB for every American state. Geez.

[@Stonecrow99]

I'm fine with that, the American ships are generally pretty solid imo, my favourite nation in terms of looks, guns, speed, etc, jack of all trades nation

[@hamakaze1364]

Man I hope they never add a ship called the indiana only imagine how crazy that ship would be

[@lonnyyoung4285]

Indiana was a South Dakota class BB. I guess they could do something crazy with it, but Alabama and Massachusetts already exist.

[@39095]

Illinoi. This is how you say it. LOL

[@mrkitty1367]

you can't set in the back and snipe in this ship move up and use your armor

[@waynelawrence5220]

Yeah, IMO I think your doing it wrong. Range mod no way. I know you dont want to be tainted by other streamers before you review ships yourself. But in this case It might have been a good idea to have watched some others. Go back and watch some of the stuff PQ, Carbine C, Clyde plays and others have put out for maybe more effective build ideas and play style.

[@danh7411]

US BBs have range mod in slot 3 tho, like it's free to take.

[@leroiarouf1142]

Who remember when wows was about historical chips ???

[@danh7411]

never? Since the first day Montana was there.

[@Gladius-XC]

Please tell me that you’re just trolling us every time you say Illi-noise. You’re a teacher for crying out loud!

[@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627]

I dont pay to play, why do you ever have to reset a line? I have maybe 300 hours and i just dont understand why people talk about resetting lines. Why reset?

[@deaninchina01]

Ohio. I’m free to play as well. Haragumo is the easiest line to reset. Use the 2x bonus to reset. It’s easy to get free xp to research the lines multiple times without actually playing them. I use the red and blue bonus flags in clan battles a win gets you over 30k free xp from a win. For a blue flag. Plus you get perm time for wins. Ranked gets you doubloons for free, buy premium battle pass to get all the extra RB points.

[@cbennetts2746]

"its not a competitive ship" i have a 88% win rate in ranked with it. I got it yesterday and played 26 games, i lost 3. Im a slightly better than average player. Im not pro player by any stretch 😂😂

[@kisukeoda1171]

Secondary build

[@williamhess3873]

Honestly I think your opinion is entirely botched. You’re sitting at max range with perfectly good islands to use, couldn’t use em cause you got farmed so early, and still did solid damage despite your mistakes. I’ve seen a lot of 300k games in her so far, and I despite being focused by carriers and the new US aviation BBs I was able to survive and farm up a storm. Smoke fire lets you do hilarious things, strong ammo and fast reload lets you deal with every surface target accordingly, and an underwater citadel coupled with improved heal makes your HP a lot more BS than it looks. This thing is a 9/10 easily and would still be if it was steel. Only thing I’d ask for if it was steel would be some funny consumable to bop it up. I look at vallejo which is a steel ship and should be coal, then I see this, a ship worthy of steel being graces to us for RB points. Not sure where you base your opinions but changing how you play the ship might help out.

[@robert7984]

Illinoissssssssssssssss lol

[@richardbell7678]

The Illinois is basically a Salem writ large. I found an interesting old training film on KZbin for the USS Salem's autoloading guns (3"/50 and 8"/55): kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3TMl6Gca5ifedU

[@cezarnebun9607]

This is a ship…in case you can’t tell

[@Genzaijh]

It's pronounced "Illinoi" without the "S" . I don't know why, but you don't pronounce the S sound.

[@nk_3332]

You lived in Louisiana and you can't correctly pronounce the French-derived Illinois (silent s) properly? I could understand all the Europeans mangling all the US cruiser and battleship names, but Illinoise is the sound you get from dropping the state.

[@sealordmountbatten]

If you notice I flip flop between the two pronunciations, just my brain slipping lol

[@DEATHRAGE157]

Can we call the illinois as the american battlecruiser? Just for the meme. lel

[@waverleyjournalise5757]

Battlecruisers have BB guns with cruiser armour, this ship is the exact opposite

[@admiralmoszi9859]

@@waverleyjournalise5757 Cruiser ship 🤣

[@sargemarine3709]

Perfect name, for a clown ship.

[@colinschenck2129]

It's another money grab by WG by pandering to the low skills players. Basically taking their crying of too slow of reloads on bbs and not enough HP on cruisers and smash it together.

[@bruce3579]

Just like the state broken af

[@motaz1975]

another stupid ship released by the wg. cruisers trying to be bbs, bbs trying to be cvs.....shits getting out of control.

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Such a dumb choice

[@NicksDomain101]

Yeah this ship is useless

[@questlove_satx]

you're mispronouncing Illinois.

[@issacfoster1113]

Compared to other WoWs content creator. U bad

[@sealordmountbatten]

Well…..sorry

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

Why did you even bother leaving a comment

[@stwright84]

Just move on and don't comment if you don't like how he plays. As he states, he is not a CC, nor connected to WG, so he is just one of us who love to play the game.

[@andrewpinkham9904]

its junk

[@jaywerner8415]

You must be doing it wrong.

[@NoName-wi8xz]

Its a super strong ships. Watch some players with high winrate play this ship. Look at pqs video

[@NoName-wi8xz]

@ukrainianpatriot224 Yes, but people under 60% win rate shouldnt say that certain ship is trash. If u want legit opinion, watch guys like pq, flamu or Malta, all 65%+ wr

[@admiralmoszi9859]

@@NoName-wi8xz Win rate means almost nothing.

[@NoName-wi8xz]

@@admiralmoszi9859 it means ALOT. Its in fact the most important star when judging how good certain player is. Even if u play for farming dmg not winning, if u have sub 50% win rate, u are just trash