World of Warships- Top 5 Ships You Don't Want To See On The Enemy Team

[@Complayer11]

1. Every cv 2. Every sub 3. Every hybrid 4. Every airstrike bomb

[@davidturner6995]

and superships T11

[@tmarcus309]

I'd put sub above CV because at least every plane has to fly into AA and you can see them coming. Subs can just pop up from 3.5 clicks and kabloomie

[@Complayer11]

@@tmarcus309 Subs at least have to risk their ships when pinging while CVS never

[@frantiseksedivy5136]

everyone crying about those being in game

[@baconbliss4796]

​@@frantiseksedivy5136 No one likes a soggy sandwich

[@butterflyeffect7851]

My top 2. 1. Subs 2. CV.

[@wojtek1582]

I have almost the same but it is top 5. 1 Subs 2. nothing 3. nothing 4. nothing 5. CV's It is like that cause subs are much more annoying and unfunny to fight against than CV's.

[@richardbell7678]

I remember firing a salvo from my Thunderer at a bot cruiser, over some islands, at about 15km. Five of eight shells landed and there were three fires. To my pleasant surprise, its damage control was on cool down, so it burned to the waterline. I am thankful that it was not a random battle.

[@mikefloyd6851]

Recently in my thunderer I've been lucky to get 3 fired a battle...it went from fire king to fire begger

[@StevenShelley-m6s]

When the hybrid battleships came out I kept track of 100 battles where one side had a hybrid and the other side did not. The hybrid team won 87% of the time. It wasn't the combat, it was the spotting advantage the hybrids provided.

[@ahemschmeyer]

I’m surprised how few Hildabrands I see now a days. It was all over the place when it first came out, but the amount has fallen off dramatically since. I see more Kearsarge.

[@drink15]

Happens to just about all new ships. Everyone plays it then goes back to their normal ships.

[@BarrettL1970]

And they figure out how to counter it too. No matter what I do you can't get into strike position without being spotted. You must play it like a traditional cv... that's no fun

[@God_Ic-0n]

Kersage is better in every way.

[@Stephen__White]

That's because Hildebrand was never that great to start with. It was always weaker than hybrids already in game. People just lost their shit over those weak torp bombers and clips of the HE bombers nuking something, then once players realized those torp bombers are very weak and hard to use effectively, and the HE bombers are 4 per game, a lot just moved on from the ship. For context before people give me flak here, not saying Hildebrand isn't annoying to deal with, even more so as a DD, but even then it's just annoying. A skilled DD player can still play under a Hildebrand, they just have to play like they did during RTS CVs and not go to far from their team.

[@clmwrx]

​@Stephen__White can suck in an end game scenario tho. Especially in a cv game have 2 cvs on enemy team basically. Dds can't hide from that very well even if all they have to do is run off map and hide

[@SofaKingA]

I just knew SLM was gonna mention Thunderer!!! 🤣 That ship is his arch nemesis!

[@kingofcastlechaos]

I want to see a series called "HOW TO COUNTER XYZ SHIP", and give us some tips on how to make it work.

[@clmwrx]

Meta says run for most ships

[@clmwrx]

Sub on your flank? Run.

[@clmwrx]

But no seriously, what are you interested in? Probably some videos already somewhere

[@sardaukerlegion]

I'm not alone here: 1. Subs 2. CVs 3. Hybrids 4. Supersh1ts.

[@SofaKingA]

Good list in perfect order as well! 👍

[@miltonzinn8732]

1. Super CVs 2. Subs (any) 3. Kearsarge 4. Kamikaze 5. C. Colombo I did notice your list was a little more in tune to being a BB main. As someone that plays a lot more DDs and light Cruisers, outside of the Colombo for my cruiser, none of those ships really bother me.

[@kylegmc1500]

I got into a game with 3 Hildebrand's playing together, Having never seen one before being a new player I didn't know why the other team started moaning in chat so much....a few minutes later when the game was over I found out why.

[@GunBunnyUTX]

Prewatch guesses: Nakhimov (really, *any* carrier) Gato (really, *any* sub) A Des Moines player who knows what they're doing Condé Stalingrad None of the DDs really fit this criteria, IMO. Same for BBs

[@comrade7324]

well at least the Stalingrad was mentioned...

[@Foxy87]

Gato is like a Daring lmao with less torps per salvos

[@broccanmacronain457]

Definitely the Nakhimov.

[@tdbraun6837]

Now we know what to play during Sealer's livestream, in the hopes of getting a game with him...

[@taiko1237]

1: Every American ship with radar 2: Every other ship with radar aside from Soviet ones 3: Soviet radar ships (because their radar is shorter duration) 4: One of those infernally sneaky little British gunboat DDs 5: CVs and subs (mostly a torpedo DD player)

[@linnymiddy]

Good day Sealord, do ya think about making a ranking video about dockyard ships?

[@bidyarnovhazarika494]

+1

[@sealordmountbatten]

Maybe now I am

[@wramsey2656]

I guess I’ll have to pull my thunder out of port and play it a few times, when I used to play it, I used to feel pretty bad because I would just burn people to the ground from distance and you can still do that. It is fun to play. Then I invested that steel Shinano and I’ve yet to got play it in a random battle, I’m still practicing with the skip bombers. My hand trimmers from Parkinson’s disease is starting to take a toll on my CV play so I’m playing less unfortunately. When I played Shinano i thought yeah this thing is gonna get nerve. I mean after all you did spend steel on it so that’s supposed to happen right? Good as always SeaLord salute to you buddy. Oh yes the ijn torp bombers are best due to speed and damage ; i normally go out with them first, like you said if I find an opportunistic target, then I’ll send out the Skip bombers to go after him.

[@Stephen__White]

Well the top 5 ships I don't want to see on the enemy team are as follows: 5 - Giulio Cesare as it's a strong T6 ship at T5 and honestly should have just been moved to T6 rather than removed from sale. 4 - Kamikaze as it's a pre-nerf IJN DD and that makes it busted, not helped by the lack of any real detection tools at T5/6 3 - FDR though mostly thinking back to when it released and it seemed like a WG dev said "today I will make them remember" and made a CV on the power level of RTS CVs. 2 - I-56 with the asterisk of "if played well", that sub if played well will basically never get detected and you will only even know it's there when those torpedoes appear to delete you, when played poorly though it's really not a threat, hence why I don't like to see it because you can't know until the battle has already started. 1 - Any 32mm+ overmatch BB when playing T8+, with the place being ceremonially given to Musashi. I personally despise overmatch as a mechanic and those are the worst offenders of the mechanic. This also applies to any 26mm+ overmatch BB for anything T7 and lower because it's effectively the same thing, so you could also give this spot to Sinop ceremonially though there are a lot of ships in this category. You get punished for playing correctly all because their guns are the right size for the game to just ignore your armour for some reason.

[@topiahead]

Can there be a video talking about the Chukuma II? I saw that ship in the limited steel store ans thinking is it worth the steel

[@unknown23hornet22]

It isn't. Dpm is poor, and the planes aren't good enough to make up for it.

[@outofcontrolsjsgaming]

Weak armor but can be strong in the right hands. Like most Japanese ships it favors kiting despite the turrets being on the front. The #2 turret can 360 so you usually almost always have at least 2 guns on target unless someone is right off your stern, otherwise decent angles. 15km torps with 6 on each side, can use the planes to cross drop. Can smoke if you want to farm. Not a great ship to get caught out in the open with. Its armor doesn’t handle even 16” shells so don’t think you can solo BBs, you’ll just take a quick trip back to port. Has been an absolute beast in asymmetric battles for me.

[@timothyodenwald7441]

Happy Monday, SeaLord & Fellow Subs. Yes, agree 100% about Shinano...I'd add Archerfish / Gato as a close #2. Have a great week, y'all

[@gundamzeta3447]

AzurLane added one of the concept designs for Hildabrand with quad turrets and was actually the first design of the ship

[@MaxxyNL]

How many top 5's can be made for 1 game

[@sealordmountbatten]

It’s not hard considering the amount of ships and changes that WG adds in every year

[@chrisa2922]

For me the number one ship I hate seeing is Shimakaze. Every single time a Shima is on the enemy team they’re just absolutely cracked and dunk on everyone.

[@dapprman]

You ought to try going up against a Shinano in a DD. Those 10km range secondaries will (and do) shred you and with the planes going in and out you are highly unlikely to get close enough to torp accurately. Oh and like all tier 10 CVs it can cross drop just as nastily as the pre CV rework CVs, however without losing half its total planes). Completely broken. Worse for me at present (aside from most the superships, especially the Maine with its apparently radar guided shells, all tier 10+ CVs, Soviet tier 8 CVs, all subs, all hybrid CVS) are the Tromp (with it's air strike planes being so quick it is near impossible to dodge them in a DD...) and the Cheatkuma II (sorry) Chikuma II. After all they may have removed a single turret, but then they have buffed the torps, added smoke, and given you another hybrid CV. Very hard to tackle it with it's Japanese 8" sniping/fire starter guns coming at your from out of the smoke it can use during its air attacks. Completely broken. As yes with my comments I actually did stop playing, only logging in for the daily reward for almost a year.

[@ConstantlyConfused-x2f]

Thunderer player here, I consistantly get easy over 100,00 damage, when I see a Vermont coming, I go Oh f.....

[@RogueDemagogue]

The most feared ship on the other side is the USS Mahomes. If I see that ship, I'm scuttling mine.

[@derek96720]

One thing you left out about the thunderer, and correct me if I'm wrong and this isn't accurate anymore, but it has its own special heal that recovers more citadel damage. The conqueror is better at healing from he spam, and can basically recover like 3/4 of its health as long as the damage was from HE. The thunderer can recover like I think maybe a third of its health, but that third is from citadel damage, which is usually what really messes up BBs in longer games. The thunderer heal gives you the ability to recover from situations that normally would cripple other battleships

[@Stephen__White]

Thunderer does indeed heal 33% of cit damage where Conq only heals 10%, BUT Conq heals 75% of pen damage/other damage sources, where Thunderer only heals 60%, plus if you are getting cits on ether ship they are likely just dead so it doesn't come up that often.

[@grayboats7741]

Pre watch list, any Japanese DD, Maine, Yamato, Stalingrad, and any high angle US cruisers. I love hunting subs & blasting planes , so CV's hybrids don't upset me.

[@gundamzeta3447]

Next do ships you don’t want to see on your team with number one being tiger 59

[@anthonyware4033]

I remember when VVs first came out and the tier 10 IJN CV has 20nkm torps. You would not know there was a wall of 20km torps headed your way until you got hit by the wall. You were lucky if you didn't get sunk.

[@gow1044]

You said VV instead of CV.

[@anthonyware4033]

@gow1044 ya lol I ment CV

[@MrBreakdownBoy]

The worst combo is - 1. Smoke generating CV 2. Colbert 3. American DD 4. Sub and whatever. Smoked up Colbert is a force quit situation for me.

[@mazgazine1]

Heyo Sealord, I'd like to point out a weird thing - All the Jinan footage from the CCs I watch ALL USE THE SAME LEVEL, AT THE SAME PLACE LOL!! Like that is the Premier position and level for Jinan tactics.. Hell the last good game was the same place ad everything, through deep waters down 9/10, smoke up and blast radared DDs at the C cap.

[@steveoltjenbruns2366]

5. French DDs, especially Marceau 4. U4501 or Archerfish 3. Malta 2. Shimakaze 1. Superships All of them

[@KaguyasBeat]

Thunderer left a permanent stain from a few years ago lol, not as bad as it used to be but definitely still a "thing". To be fair... it's at least rather squishy unlike some other ships which deserve to be on here (or are) too.

[@pomdutta9664]

whats scary to me is a gouden leeuw division .... amongst the dds i would be a bit jittery of the aasashio and yeuyang if i am in a bb

[@mrpickles15]

With 4 cits and the AP damage skill Shinano cracks 28k a salvo.

[@sealordmountbatten]

From the mouth of the Shinano main himself

[@spekkiestuff]

This is cute and all. But reality is. You dont want want to face any ship I am playing.

[@d00mie32]

Hey Sealord, what do you think of Heavy Cruisers having 32mm armor on the bow, such around Tier X or a Supership with it.

[@000NULL]

Columbo has a damage output 2x over Yamato. SAP Penetrates way more than it should.

[@kidpagronprimsank05]

Basically, competent players who knows what they doing. Some ships on this list are bonkers though (legmod Columbo is certainly one).

[@privateer9181]

I dont fear anything thats not a destroyer….in tier 10 in a good players hands the daring, gearing, gdansk,marceau, shimikaze

[@BugattiONE666]

IS was praying Shinano would finally be different amongst carriers, as in it would suffer from the fact its Japanese: It would suck, completey, and people would probably say something "it good cos its accurate" But now...

[@MetallicBKW]

a Shiki plus CV in div when I’m in a CV as a the CV spots and the Shiki snipes.

[@RogueDemagogue]

I play all the time and never see the Thunderer.

[@SofaKingA]

Agreed

[@rohankarvande3715]

Umm just a question what to if you see them all at once

[@sealordmountbatten]

@@rohankarvande3715 pray

[@rohankarvande3715]

@sealordmountbatten True😅

[@Schultz-ko3ve]

How about a Top 5 Ships you like to play… your favorites.

[@dutch0770]

No Archerfish?

[@AmericanCruiserArmUSSAnchorage]

Subs were all annoying af

[@oldmangames9292]

As a mostly DD-player, my list is VERY different

[@davidmulholland66]

How is the Jacksonville or the U-4501 not on the list?

[@Bryan-m4g]

Subs and ships 2 tiers above my class, makes for quick game.

[@pedrotetsujiinoue4520]

Sea lord, how is WG picking how RNG works in each game. Are there parameters that one needs to satisfy in order for MM to give better results? How much more of an RNG advantage does WG give to community contributor accounts vs regular accounts? How many accounts do you have on WOWs?

[@sealordmountbatten]

@@pedrotetsujiinoue4520 in terms of Randoms MM. It is just that. Random. MM doesn’t look at stats or the account playing. Just the class and tier of the ship picked. I am not a CC so I have no experience with a CC account. I have 3 accounts on WoWs. My Primary and then two others that own various TSIOF clans.

[@MechFrankaTLieu]

actually most torp whether its on Jinan or any others could use a buff , guess what's the real hit rate of torpedo as a whole , not counting the aerial and sub launch torp , Radar means those torp launching platform had to be launching from further off and Hydro is simply every where , players used to joke about the Shima 20KM torp but now ... even the most die hard DD player had to admit the gunboats just had it way better

[@AlderaansRanger]

If you see me in a smolesnk just run away

[@pgooood]

What about Vampire II? IMHO usually its a pain in the ass

[@seebar8179]

Can someone pls explain whats so special about Thunderer? It feels way worse to play than a Colombo or an Ohio from my experiences (140k avg vs 110-120k)

[@cbdiesel8707]

Hello Thunderer is a good ship...65 % fire chance...but sinds the last update...i struggle to get fires...a player on the enemy team had the same problem with his Thunderer... More people here experience this?

[@marcinkwapisz7752]

I agree with the presented list, but I don't think C.Colombo is broken. With the mod it is just a really good ship. It is the only one which can solo counter play Libertad. The same way Vermont and Main should be described as broken. One "unlucky" salvo from them and you are going to your port.

[@SofaKingA]

Man, it sucks playing cruiser open water now. Zao and Castilla get slapped.

[@motaz1975]

ahh ok. cool list but a this game depends on too many factors to worry about any particular ship on the team. i am more worried about what kind of skilled or lack there of players are on my team.

[@pegasusted2504]

For me it is not so much the ships that you don't want to appear on the enemy team, it is clan tags. Suria, Yoboy and others. Then it is the combo package that really makes me glad they are on my team when you see one of these well known, and feared, clan tags sailing what is known to be a tough ship. If they are on the enemy team my, somewhat foolish and overly confidant, killer instinct kicks in and I'm all like "Oh boy, oh I'm so going to get him/them" ;~) Only to face a big dollop of reality when they murder me. hehehe. Anyone else have this? Quick question, when looking at a ships stats in port can anyone tell me why they don't provide the penetration stat for armour piercing shells? They have it for the HE so why not the AP? Are they saying that it doesn't matter what calibre of shell it is if it is AP then it can pierce all armour on enemy ships? I find it hard to see how a little 127mm AP shell can penetrate the armour of say Montana or Yammy etc. I like to know if the sheel I am firing can actually do any damage. Other things like time to top speed and many others they don't show.

[@Dave_Allen]

All subs and all cv,s

[@subx3dth]

subs, pan american bbs. kagero, akizuki, he spammers which got smoke

[@Stvnpetersen]

In all honesty, the ships I hope are not on the enemy team are subs. I'm not bothered about CVs, Superships or hybrids. Subs players are not interested in team play, strategy or battle outcomes. The sub player sole purpose is to grief other players.

[@ericatkinson7006]

Top 5 Ships You Don't Want To See On The Enemy Team and will be every time.

[@anthonyware4033]

You don't want to see a thunderer player like me that switches from HE and AP. I don't know how many cruisers I see giving me their side.

[@pallegantzhorn3742]

any sub, any cv

[@AMWhiskey-kl8qh]

Yeah don’t want to see any of these. Thanks for the video!

[@trangtran6958]

But why I can destroy the Thunderer with my Ohio with x3 citadel easily huh??

[@Mobo___]

Because ohio is one of the best bbs in the game

[@trangtran6958]

@Mobo___ yes, but he name some of the ship that are not strong

[@keithsouthworth7883]

Oh OK superstar! What's your game name I'll be sure to hunt you first!

[@01talima]

surprised at the shinano , just got it myself feels like the weakest CV in the game to me, no planes with no health the torp bombers are average only dropping 3 mid damage torps and the skip bombers are just useless against anything with a rudder. maybe its an NA/EU thing and NA players actually sit still and let you hit a flat broadside

[@sekofoni]

Jager is the worst

[@this_side_up]

I despise the Colombo meta. Between that and the Zika ships, it's neigh intolerable.

[@PeterBoddy]

There's only two I don't want to see: CV and sub.

[@yendub]

You are assuming they know how to play them properly.

[@havilend3450]

Same reason Jinan got buffed. It requires you to have some awareness not to be instantly dev struck. Not something common in the playerbase.

[@IamElChapo]

Double subs and a cv. Just pure cancer city.

[@paweszatkowski2669]

Sea lord what about expanding your content to some naval war related topics or for example comparison of real and game versions of certain vessels? Beacuse to be honest, only wows videos start to be similar to each other, same with the top 5, i like you as a creator but its getting boring

[@colinschenck2129]

This list is two long...CVs and subs. That's it. Ruining the game

[@scootypooper]

hello

[@perhentzepetersen9310]

I dont agree with the Thunderer! This ship might work on the American server, but it is hopeless on the European server. They have nerfed this ship into the ground! One example: If I am lucky, I can start 2-3 fires in the whole game, but on paper I have a 68 percent chance.....

[@BugattiONE666]

Oh you called her Yammie? *unsubs*

[@SofaKingA]

Are you new here?

[@BugattiONE666]

@@SofaKingA No i thought it was just a meme used bu all the console creators