Manufacturer Response: The name of our speaker and the use of the term "Fourier Series" in our video has led to some reasonable criticism in light of the information available. While we use the Fourier Transform in our Fir filters many crossovers, beyond that we use a different algorithm to extract the signals fundamental and harmonic series, which I stated in the video gets summed as the drivers produce their assigned sinusoids. As an analogy both terms fit. We extract the fundamental and its harmonics from a signal as does the Fourier Transform, but our algorithm is far more practical for reproducing music recordings with loudspeakers. We sum the sinusoids analogous to the Inverse Fourier Transform as the sine waves leave drivers. The effectiveness of our new approach in sound reproduction was noted by numerous individuals at the show who stated clearly we sounded not only unique but were the best sound at the show in spite of its chaotic and work in progress look. , We will reconsider our explanations in the future to both avoid this confusion and protect our intellectual property. We will be in LA in June for the show with a commercial product. We will have a room for listening and another to demonstrate its unique ability to stay in phase with the input and whose output maps over the input perfectly. All criticism is welcome but we especially look forward to all responses from individuals who have heard them. We know this new paradigm in sound reproduction is so radical many are convinced that it can’t work and nothing but nonsense could claim it does. Fred Slaven Fourier Transform Speakers. Sent from my iPhone
@johncircosta2861Ай бұрын
A speaker cable sellers dream system !
@rupertchappelle5303Ай бұрын
Klein Cables have proven to be difficult to implement, but we are working on it. The packaging is the easy part.
@Technical_AudioАй бұрын
Having a master’s degree in electrical engineering with a specialty in signal processing, I can say that the technical explanation provided here was mostly mixed-up gibberish. I don’t know if these speakers sounded good or not, but however they sounded wasn’t due to these mistaken beliefs, at least as explained.
@johnlehew8192Ай бұрын
I agree. My comments are similar to yours. He might have accidentally run across something and it may sound amazing however the explanation doesn’t make sense. He may have built the most expensive active crossover ever made lol
@gapingshanusАй бұрын
100%
@briand66Ай бұрын
I agree. In the science world, this is what would be called a crackpot, not even worth of the loftier "mad scientist" designation.
@FredSlavenАй бұрын
While we use the Fourier Transform and its inverse for our FIR filters only, we apparently failed to grasp that using the term Fourier Series or Fourier Transform as an analogy to our process of pulling out the underlying sine waves making up the signal, would be taken so literally. The Fourier Theorem led to a realization that when it comes to sound, it's "turtles (sine waves) all the way down". That led to our explorations, experiments and eventually our speaker. We don't use the Fourier Transform to break down the signal into its harmonic series, true, but an alternative that is far less demanding on compute and still uncovers the sine waves needed so our drivers can operate in a linear manner. The resulting sine waves extracted and their summation is so accurate we can actually map our speakers output onto the input signal. We are the only speaker that can do so. No doubt your experience and response should be taken seriously and we will reconsider our interview in that light and see how we can explain the speakers without handing out patent process in the process.
@rupertchappelle5303Ай бұрын
I find your lack of faith in gibberish to be disturbing and impolite to the gibbering community.
@exponentmantissa5598Ай бұрын
Drivers do not have to stop instantly and change phase which he claimed. That would be a step function which never occurs in audio and is impossible for an amplifier to reproduce as it would require infinite slew rate. He also claimed his drivers are all in phase. They are not because there is a distance between them. In addition he is going to get a ton of diffraction and reflection off the speaker array. He has made a classic audio mistake. He claims a problem exists that doesnt and then does a ton of design work and cost to fix something that it is a non issue.
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
As for the comment about direction changes we were not talking pico seconds but fast enough to stay in phase with the input signal. We are the first to so so replicating the input signal with our speakers output. As the designer we were concerned about diffraction but what the hell, let’s see what the effect would be. It was moot. We were amazed at how little effect it had. As for phase from the difference in the drivers vertical position, When a group a driver produces a square wave they are aligned on both axis’s. we use dsp delay to accomplish this.eNot quite that simple but close. We will be in LA in june w a finished product Drop by .. It’s all Bs, including ours until one hears the speaker. Show response was overwhelming positive. Most recognizing a new standard for Hi End.
@mysock351CАй бұрын
@@TheBlindAudiophile This is a fundamental misunderstanding (for one reason or another) of what the Fourier transform is, and why its needed. Systems that can only assume discrete states cannot process continuously varying signals such as analog audio. The transistor in the DSP chip is on, the transistor in the DSP chip is off. The neuron in your brain fires, the neuron in your brain stops firing. They have no in-between states. This is where the Fourier transform comes in. It allows a continuously varying signal to be decomposed into its spectral content vs. time which is something such state-based systems can process. Speaker, however, can assume any position they want to by design. As such, speakers are ONLY made to reproduce continuously varying analog signals, and don't do well with anything else. Also there is the massive issue of dispersion patterns and interference, which is why modern speakers require computer aided simulation and design to actually get them to have good directivity, which is a must. Using speakers made from the entire Parts-Express catalog each playing only one very narrow range of frequencies is like trying to paint the Sistine Chapel with a hand grenade and a bucket of paint. Its at best wildly misguided
@mysock351CАй бұрын
@@TheBlindAudiophile Also insofar as audio is concerned, the resulting "harmonics" of each of the sine components are actually harmonic distortion. We DONT want those as they shouldn't be there! Its an intriguing "what-if" idea. We've all had such moments of whimsy staring at measurement equipment or mathematic equations. 😀 But to actually attempt this is fundamentally flawed in very profound ways.
@jakus514Ай бұрын
@@TheBlindAudiophileDo you mean for T.H.E Show? 🤞
@exponentmantissa5598Ай бұрын
@@TheBlindAudiophile What happens to imaging when you essentially break apart an instrument into different locations for different frequencies?
@johnlehew8192Ай бұрын
It is well known that Fourier is used to split signals into different frequency bands. It is mathematical processing and unlike physical capacitors, inductors, and resistors it will maintain phase in the signals whereas physical electronics distort phase. It converts a time based signal into a frequency signal that can be easily filtered by removing everything outside of 200 hz and 300 hz then converted back to the time domain to play that part of the signal. Based on the explanations in this video, I don’t believe anything special is here. I think this system is simply an active crossover driving 15 speakers. It is missing a good engineering explanation as to why it works, there is an explanation but it doesn’t make sense plus the designer mentions he recently learned about Fourier. It is a very complex subject and was first applied to phone signals when they first came out to reduce noise and boost signals. I took a semester on nothing but Fourier in college and this is a hard subject to learn on your own. I encourage the designer to prove me wrong and explain how this is not an active crossover and provide better explanations of how it works. I’m big on innovation and wish him the best however this isn’t passing the smell test for me.
@MikexceptionАй бұрын
I share objections. This effort is concentrated on only one factor - phase shifts in crossovers. It is explananable only if author heard about that problem but did not experience other rest. Even if it works ( I have not enough knowlegdge about FFT except that it has to be sampled, conveted to digital form and after analyzed, it takes time and how about many uch operorations for each speaker in instance I have no idea) He did like perfect suspension for one of four wheels in car. It is important to have all good cooperating together. resulting in smooth ride of whole car in compare to one best suspension and other suspensions as usual. There are lot of phase shifts in audio and true art in audio design is to make them compensate each other, not to beat any of them to zero - it is better to controll them for best result. .
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
It was just a year of so ago I saw using the Fourier Theorem and it derivative equations as a model in speaker design. You are not incorrect in seeing it as a active speaker with 19 crossovers actually. But that's like saying a diesel locomotive is nothing more than a diesel engine coupled with an electric motor. That would also be a true statement but completely misses or ignores the point of using the diesel engine to provide current from a generator and the electric motor for its strengths the diesel engine lacks.
@exponentmantissa5598Ай бұрын
Imaging would be destroyed by this as now your musical instruments come from multiple locations. In addition any filters introduce phase shift near the crossover points. This is unavoidable. All too often I see people create an audio reproduction problem that doesnt exist and then spend a ton of money to fix something that was not broken to begin with. A perfect example is expensive cables like USB.
@robertjermantowicz-uw3iwАй бұрын
@@exponentmantissa5598Transmission of signals down wires is settled science going back 100 years. For signals in the audio range of 20hz to 20khz all wire is equal, no matter what fancy weave or insulation is used. People that claim to hear differences in wire are delusional.
@rrd1975Ай бұрын
I don't think that the bright minds at Magico, Magnepan, Wilson, Sound Lab, YG Acoustics and other high-end speaker brands will lose any sleep.
@jazzboyАй бұрын
It sounded good, and the tech is simply brilliant. One of my favorite rooms at PAF 2024.
@johnlehew8192Ай бұрын
That’s the coolest rats nest of wires I’ve ever seen
@Nonsense62365Ай бұрын
ROTHLMAO!
@johnstone7697Ай бұрын
The drivers are all mounted in free air and facing upward. But because of the close stacking there's a tremendous amount of diffraction created both off the driver basket above and the one below. Regardless of the DSP involved, these drivers are operating in a very sub-optimal environment where in phase and out of phase energy (front and back of cone) are simultaneously being radiated into the listening space. Lots of signal cancellation results, especially on the listening axis. I assume the goal is to make it omni directional, but this design puts tremendous demands on the drivers to produce any substantial amount of energy at the listening position.
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
As the designer we too were concerned about diffraction but what the hell, let’s see what the effect would be. It was moot. We were amazed at how little effect it had. As for phase from the difference in the drivers vertical position, when a group a drivers produces a square wave they are aligned on both axis’s. we use dsp delay to accomplish this. This is not quite that simple but close. We will be in LA in june with a finished product so drop by .. It’s all Bs, including ours until one hears the speaker. Show response was overwhelming positive. Most recognizing a new standard for Hi End. 5
@robertjermantowicz-uw3iwАй бұрын
@@TheBlindAudiophileYeah but 40 channels of amplification and the connecting wires to each driver in a left - right pair is excessive! A better speaker is the tri-amped Linkwitz using three stereo amps and a three-way Bryston crossover.
@einarbk885Ай бұрын
" sub-optimal environment where in phase and out of phase energy (front and back of cone) are simultaneously being radiated into the listening space." except for a properly designed dipole like the Lx521 where that works very well.
@johnstone769712 күн бұрын
@@einarbk885 I have the LX 521, and it is nothing like what is presented here. All the drivers are mounted on baffles that create a longer path length between front and rear radiation. This essentially extends the cancelletion effects further downward in frequency. Linkwitz (who was a dear friend) knew the exact means for calculating these effects, and compensating for them in his crossover.
@mysock351CАй бұрын
“Nature adds them up free of charge.” Yes. It’s called a SPEAKER. We can even do really nifty things like using coaxial drivers and waveguides to ensure that the SPEAKER delivers a nice uniform sound and symmetrical “time aligned” dispersion pattern across the audio spectrum. There are even a few obscure companies like KEF, Genelec, Mofi, etc. that make such mythical devices 😐
@mrmessyjesseАй бұрын
I saw it Friday and was bummed it was not still open when I went with the wife on Sunday. Cool engineering… not sure about the WAF as it is but love seeing the sausage made!
@klepp19Ай бұрын
Yes I arrived on Sunday and the door was closed!😢
@318ishonkАй бұрын
Interesting whack-a-doodle speaker. Bass and lower mids omnidirectional, mids in dipol dispersion and highs in classic "starts wide - narrows down" dispersion pattern. Must be some spacious sound. I put it down as ShockFi. Thumbs up for the inventor!
@Canadian_Eh_IАй бұрын
Very interesting. Love audio design, where science meets art !
@rupertchappelle5303Ай бұрын
I'll wait until they come out with a Quantum Speaker using the Standard Model and Spinning Monopoles. My ears deserve the best!
@danielgeiger7739Ай бұрын
This looks to me rather like around 17-way speaker that is 17-way amped. I see nothing that corresponds to a proper Fourier Transformation, where true sine waves interact with constructive and destructive interference to produce a derivative. That was quite clear when he talked about one speaker emitting sound from three piano keys, which is a range. A true sine wave has no range by definition. A test would be to only amp one of those 17 speakers and see whether it truly produces a single tone, or whether one speaker shows some variation in pitch. my 2c as a wet scientist.
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
There is a lot of misunderstanding here. I’ll take the hit for that and see if I can avoid this confusion when we introduce our finished product next June. My choice of words will have to be better.
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
The next show will feature individual amp outputs show the musical signal been created out of a series of sine waves. It is in fact a 21 way speaker system. So you are correct essentially. But that is like saying a diesel locomotive is nothing more than a diesel engine combined with a electric motor. This would also be true but completely missis the point of combining the two as was done with this speaker design.
@datka3Ай бұрын
I’m sure cable manufactures are happy watching this video😂
@AudiophileJunkieАй бұрын
Next show will be all Odin Gold 🤠
@AudiophileJunkieАй бұрын
For those unfamiliar with the word "fourier", I'll put more details in the description, but in essence, the Fourier theorem provides a powerful tool for understanding and analyzing complex waveforms by breaking them down into their simpler components.
@immovableobjectifyАй бұрын
True Fourier analysis and synthesis (involving reconstruction from pure sine waves) would require an unreasonably large number of separate channels and drivers, Here he even says that each driver covers a range of about 3 notes (in I assume the Western 12-tone scale.) No pure sine waves are involved. It seems like this is just an extreme multi-way speaker with a digital crossover, and separate amps for each driver. Maybe if and when he is ready to sell a product, it will have some advantages over typical 3, 4, 5, and 6-way designs, but I have my doubts.
@Thomas..AndersonАй бұрын
@@immovableobjectify Add to that it has some sort of a vertical dipole configuration, distances between drivers way above wavelengths, diffraction from all those drivers. No wonder he cannot pin point the source of the sound.
@supercompooperАй бұрын
a good first proof of concept for sure
@georgelienАй бұрын
I wish I could listen to them
@timinator1963Ай бұрын
Maybe it's a function (see what I did there) of the youtube compression, but the transient attacks seem a bit rounded. Considering how compromised listening via youtube is, the imaging and soundstage seem incredible. Obviously, I'd need to hear familiar source material in person to form a better opinion. But as a proof of concept, to me, they hit it out of the park.
@martinriiser5523Ай бұрын
Could it be your iPad power cable?
@MikexceptionАй бұрын
I see some weak points - first to make it work we need to digitalize , analyze and following bring back to analog. It is not kept all the way in analog. It callls for decisions about bit rates, types od conversion and quality of all that. Simplicity up to me is best. . Then assuring exact timing of all processes - time shifts would unfortunatety appear instead of those beaten. Is the result justifying that effort it is not proven for me - I cant say it is sound which I would even accept for me . At end every speaker even every part of it's membrane which is not in exact distance from ear (and they are mounted horizontaly! ) provides it's own unique phase shifts in own reproduced range and it is capable to nivelate effort. At best it is beatingto zero pure unique crossover phase shifts. But phase distortions are not adding and not worsening (like say THD or timbre distortions) - they do not add lineary - they go up and after getting maximum they go down back to zero and go opposite with maximums at +180 or -180 deg. cancelling one of reasons may in some cases result in increase of total shift. Like using not tasty ingerdients we make best creamy cake - better not forget about any Author is convinced that headphone sound may be treated as perfect reception but does he notice that when the ear shells are pressed by headphones to head and change their form it completly changes listening perception making it no comparable to free listening?
@dl6519Ай бұрын
Wow. Brilliant. The box has been thought outside of.
@TheCharlesAtozАй бұрын
No, there is no box.
@flex-cx9biАй бұрын
Actually stupid and ignorant. This designer create his own thoughts of a theory that do not work like described. He is completely lost.
@robertjermantowicz-uw3iwАй бұрын
The ESS Transar speaker of the late 70's was box-less and a much simpler elegant realization!
@Nonsense62365Ай бұрын
Hmm, i’ve been in Audiophile since 1975 that’s 49 years! I’ve heard and seen hundreds of Speakers and Systems since that time. Obviously I wasn’t there to hear them in person only watching and listening through this KZbin video with that said the design of these loudspeakers. They’re not for the majority of high-end audio enthusiasts or Audiophiles.. no matter how accurate they are and how great they sound. The way they look is going to have a huge factor in the marketing e success oof these loudspeakers.! I don’t know too many people that would buy them. Is he planning on putting some kind of thin black sock around them? Most buyers have wives or girlfriends that will not like all those cables emanating from the electronics and the design and aesthetics of these loudspeakers. I think this is gonna be a huge issue for the manufacturer to overcome..
@ajsoundfield9652Ай бұрын
Seems clear to me retirement drives audiophiles to insanity
@flex-cx9biАй бұрын
He is just excited that he found a "new". He will eventually land on ground again when gravity kicks in.
@lebeltoottoot9212Ай бұрын
I seem to be in the minority here because being blind I only get a gist of what it may look like but when it came to the sound on the second track this speaker sounded amazing. Something little strange going on with the base to sub base to me, but overall it was wonderfully dynamic, energetic and engaging.
@michaelkanna9188Ай бұрын
Thanks, and you are correct that we had problems with the bass. We got feedback on the first day that we had both too much, and too little bass, which was perplexing. Our solution was to make another setting, so we could change the bass back and forth between two groups of eq settings. We also added bass traps, which helped, but didn't quite solve the problem.
@jimrusch22Ай бұрын
Oh brother, just give me a table radio!
@nickames4654Ай бұрын
So wait… Is that claim that you’re running a very low resolution DFT, and the amplitude and phase and each bin is Inverse Fourier transformed to the time domain, and this time domain signal is fed to a discrete amp channel, which then feeds each speaker? Or are you saying that using very narrow bandwidth “crossovers” to a bunch of drivers is somehow analogous to a Fourier transform? Which is it? Where does the Fourier “claim” fit into this contraption?
@francisdelacruz6439Ай бұрын
It's not outside the box thinking, he got rid of the box! Nice.
@pablohrrg8677Ай бұрын
Seems like an "as many octaves" ways speaker, where every speaker must play an octave approximately. But an octave encompass many frequencies. Only works as Fourier transform when reproducing a single note.
@FredSlavenАй бұрын
Actually only a 1/4 octave. When the dynamics of music are in play, only a single sine wave is being reproduced and when there are more, say D5 and D#5, within any range, the linear functions of a sine wave function is retained varying in amplitude only, never having to produce a non-linear signal.
@adrianfisher9641Ай бұрын
Oh dear! Alchemists at work. I sometimes wonder if these sorcerers have actually heard what accuracy is. There have been so many of these attempts to improve loudspeaker sound and they all fail. The technical reasons this cannot produce coherence are many. It’s just a kind of coloration. That is all.
@robertjermantowicz-uw3iwАй бұрын
Obviously the inventor hasn't heard the Carver Amazing speaker from 1980. It is a two-way five foot tall one-inch ribbon driver crossed over at 100hz to four 12-inch woofers in a vertical array. Much more elegant than this Frankenstein contraption!
@FredSlavenАй бұрын
Those most impressed were those who chose to put on our expensive planar headphones to hear the contrast, if any, between then headphones and our speakers. Coloration has always been foremost on our minds. Our headphone always at hand to test every signal our speakers put out.
@michaelkanna9188Ай бұрын
Yet, it sounded as coherent as any speaker at the show.
@CarlVanDoren61Ай бұрын
Like the fact that it's taller than the operator 😊
@AudiophileJunkieАй бұрын
I tend to buy speakers taller than me and I'm 6'2"
@myturkishlife1777Ай бұрын
My missus would shit herself if she saw all those wires in the front room 😁
@gapingshanusАй бұрын
Lmfao, I'm pretty sure this dude only knows about half of what he's talking about
@glenncurry3041Ай бұрын
"According to the Fourier theorem, a steady-state wave is composed of.." exactly "In simpler terms, it means that any ..." "steady-state wave..." Fourier Transforms convert time based information into frequency based. This works on "steady-state wave[s]". But it takes a period of time before the transform can recognize the repetitive frequencies involved. Music is transients. Not a "steady-state wave".
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
The Fourier Transform is a model. We went another route to uncover another symmetry, or a distinction without a difference other than speed of computation.
@MikexceptionАй бұрын
You hit point - when I used FFT some 10 years ago, no more I had to record digital sample of sound which was "frozen" for analysis
@flex-cx9biАй бұрын
Understood... Another way to decribe music would be a infinitely and instantly variable "steady-state wave". (aka everything recorded at the same time regardless of it's a sine wave or the complex harmonics of a cymbal). There is now way you can bandwidth limit that into 17 different parts and replay it with 17 different drivers and expect it to be better that a normal loudspeaker that is phase and time coherent. Just unnecessary complex.
@cbts0029Ай бұрын
I think it is a dipol design without a baffle. Without a baffle it cannot play very low, because of a acoustic short circuit. It radiates more to the ground and the ceiling in a double cardioid form
@flex-cx9biАй бұрын
Hence the bass boxes beside the stack of drivers. They play bass. Can't cheat physics, right? 🙂
@michaelkanna9188Ай бұрын
A dipole would be a Open baffle speaker. This speaker is baffle-less, or omni-directional. All sub drivers are going to roll off at about 60, and eq-ing can't really fix physics. So there is a closed box sub to provide the very bottom. The other solutions is to "compress" the bass wave
@robertjermantowicz-uw3iwАй бұрын
Quad Electrostatic speakers are phase-coherent. So are Magneplanars. They are much simpler than this setup.
@sc0orАй бұрын
I'd advice them to mount amplifiers directly to a driver, as 5W amp is just .. 1"x1" PCB. That's especially true if they would select a high sens drivers (that they didn't, cause I hear lack of dynamics, even in the selected boom-bang track)
@MikexceptionАй бұрын
It would require supply voltage for each. speaker with preferably common supply card located outside. Instead of low resistance cables for spaeker's it would require using like microphone low signal cables which are also mess . But this project may be freely complicated because is already beyond imagination. I cant imagine how he would explain all that mess to monks od directivity of cables and heban wood traps. and voltage conditioners .
@jly74Ай бұрын
Do the sound waves emanating from the drivers above and/or below affect the speaker cones of the adjacent speaker?
@flex-cx9biАй бұрын
Sure do... Next step for the designers enlightment would be for him to discover that he needs a full wavelength between each driver to have them play in phase with each other. Each pair of drivers need a different distance between them. Can't see that...
@FredSlavenАй бұрын
@@flex-cx9bi disagree. The sound they put out would refute your understating and we compensate for vertical delay between drivers with dsp.. As would the fact our speaker output actually maps on the input signal. We are the first speaker to do so and will the first to demonstrate as much at our next show. The Seattle show being our first it was just too much to manage not to mention reserving another room to demonstrate this without first knowing others could hear what we heard. This show was just a confirmation bias test so other could hear our proof of concept. The show was a huge success so we will be in LA next year to show our prototype and demonstrate its unique output comparing the input signal to our speaker output.
@stevemccormack5483Ай бұрын
A truly fascinating concept, and they seem to have pulled it together into a speaker that sounds quite good - very impressive! Rather complex to build, and I have to assume that with 40+ amplifier channels required, they are using most or all Class D amps. I am curious about their front-end...did they have to create the Fourier deconstruction algorithm, or is it available commercially? Apparently they can choose the number of output channels they prefer and derive the FFT outputs in near real-time - pretty amazing! Follow-up on this one, please.
@FredSlavenАй бұрын
Thanks Steve. I will be emailing you shortly to go over your questions in more detail.
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
I sent an email Steve. Hope to answer all our questions. An by all means, come up and listen for yourself.
@CashGravelАй бұрын
What the fuck did I just watch? Maybe he’s not a mad scientist, but there needs to be a lot of explaining to make any sort of sense out of this. I can’t imagine how all of those drivers stacked on top of each other aren’t causing all sorts of defraction, etc..
@AudiophileJunkieАй бұрын
Lol... I'll have more one I visit him and can dive deeper into things. I wasn't there for this demo, so there's plenty still to ask and cover.
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
As the designer I too found the results of actual experiments unexpected. Tests to see how such effects as diffraction, phase cancellations etc were negligible. It's not a perfect product yet but damn, it sound better than anything else at the show. That shouldn't mean much to you as I am the creator but I can tell you my reference in all cases was a pair of very expensive planar headphones, and my standard is a speaker that doesn't sound like a speaker. We did that IMO. Test results were unique in that the speakers can actually stay in phase with the input signal and duplicate it on it output. Both unique in the industry. We will demo such tests at the LA show next June. It was just to much to take on since the Seattle show was out first and we still did not know if others would hear what we heard. The show for us was a test for confirmation bias.. Thankfully, most agrees with our ears.
@michaelkanna9188Ай бұрын
Yet your imaginings don't fit the measured reality.
@OCDmikeyАй бұрын
More cables !!
@marcellavankraaijАй бұрын
I heard them last weekend at the show, (more cables !!) that's perhaps one of cons. For me, impressive to see, but maybe because of the used audio gear/source and the (hotel)room, not the Wow factor you would expect.
@craigdellapenna7103Ай бұрын
Have you heard these? I'd be interested in your opinion.
@MARVELOUDIOАй бұрын
BSEngineering because of horizontal driver orientation!
@007EnglishAcademyАй бұрын
That music would not challenge a $1,000 system - that is disappointing.
@soundman2604Ай бұрын
I guess the number one requirement for proper set up of these speakers is ten foot ceilings, thats all!
@FVDaudioАй бұрын
How many DSP channels to decompose or recompose the signal into sine waves and their harmonics and at what speed? A quantum supercomputer? How many amplification channels and speakers for the reproduction of how much bandwidth of the spectrum?
@davidcharleson8403Ай бұрын
What I heard mostly was possible congestive heart issues. I hope he's getting medical attention. My HR was up just listening to him speak.
@bigboy9693Ай бұрын
They certainly have the wife acceptance factor.
@Nonsense62365Ай бұрын
LOL 😂 NO WAY DUDE.
@benjoe999Ай бұрын
Splitting the signal with filters always causing phase distortion.
@johnlehew8192Ай бұрын
The mid range from 80hz to 6500hz is normal speakers. The mids are the only part of the speaker that might have a benefit.
@Rene_ChristensenАй бұрын
There is no such things as a Fourier Transform loudspeaker. The Fourier Transform is mathematical technique. What you are seemingly claiming is that the sound pressure measured in-room (or anechoic?) follows perfectly the input voltage signal. In that case, the phase response has to be linear, and the magnitude response flat. This can be achieved via DSP, as you seemingly also use. Let us see the frequency response measurements (magnitude and phase), instead of small time domain signal section of a song. Don't make it out as you have discovered something new that is not taught to engineering students on the daily.
@joewhip9303Ай бұрын
Seems like a great concept. But putting this together as a viable product is another matter. All those electronics and wires!
@MikexceptionАй бұрын
I may compare to my experience - I found that placing my "standard" speakers some 50 cm lower tha they are I get amazing improvement. I deliberated it and found that due to also exceptional impression with actual psition I want to resign to make that shift because it would affect "gear composition" . Striving for some sligh improvement has it's limits and for me it appies also to this big project.
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
agree. We are in the actual product phase now. We will be back in June at LA show
@flex-cx9biАй бұрын
Great concept until you undestand the real physics behind it...
@MilGrip76Ай бұрын
This seems to be an example of the upper limit application of the whole "a solution looking for a problem". Builds an extemely complicated loudspeaker thingy, then proceeds to play non-complex music to "demonstrate". Oy vey.
@JD-mm4ubАй бұрын
How many drivers are we talking about here and how does it sound?
@robertj1701Ай бұрын
I’m speechless…. WTF?
@astolatpere11Ай бұрын
Those are big subs.
@revelry1969Ай бұрын
Wow, That’s a lot of cables. Interesting. It was producing all that bass?
@flex-cx9biАй бұрын
Well, the bass boxes one the side took care of the lower bass I assume.
@michaelkanna9188Ай бұрын
@@flex-cx9bi Correct, Open baffles roll off at about 60
@word2RGАй бұрын
wow those Purifi midbass drivers cost a fortune!
@sloboat55Ай бұрын
How will this work with the Bacch?
@AudiophileJunkieАй бұрын
Shouldn't impact the Bacch at all. They were playing normal 2 channel streaming from a two channel DAC AFAIK.
@arthurfleck1554Ай бұрын
So, you like cables? Here you go then!
@Andrew_from_Oz_Vinyl_LandscapeАй бұрын
Is the squirrel an audiophile?
@michaelsegel8758Ай бұрын
Looks interesting and expensive. Seems to have a few Purifi drivers...
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
This was a proof of concept production. Price and complexity will drop dramatically once the minimal demands on drivers, amps and dsp units are taken advantage of and combined into a size of your average hi output A/B amp.
@alexw890Ай бұрын
I’m confused
@EskWIREDАй бұрын
IMO, simpler is usually better.
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
On the level of physics, it’s far simpler with a fraction of the demands producing a complex signal requires.
@dyerstrayts1734Ай бұрын
Why am I craving spaghetti?
@AudiophileJunkieАй бұрын
Squid ink pasta
@lcmd783314 күн бұрын
Brilliant! Reminds me of the famous explanation of the Turbo Encabulator: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5SaeGquhKxld8ksi=M0-np5PGhVG5MqO-
@armoredsaint6639Ай бұрын
But.....does it sound good?
@bartvanransbeeck1341Ай бұрын
Sounds very clear uncoloured
@flex-cx9biАй бұрын
Yes, it's a boxless design so pretty much free of energy storage or resonances. Pretty much a open baffle without the baffle. The concept is simply a 17 driver normal loudspeaker. As long as one driver plays in it's linear area, which can extend for many octaves there is no need to divide it into several drivers with complex equalizing. Within the drivers linear area phase and amplitude is pretty much linear, and the designer of this loudspeaker seems to have forgotten that. Funny experiment, but with no benefit to a normal loudspeaker designed properly. So commercial potential is absolutely zero. Some might believe the sweet talk and get tricked to belive that this is something revolutional. It's not.
@TheCharlesAtozАй бұрын
When will it ever be practical?
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
This was a proof of concept production. Price and complexity will drop dramatically once the minimal demands on drivers, amps and dsp units are taken advantage of and combined into a size of your average hi output A/B amp.
@morrismclean3584Ай бұрын
IMO not that far from the ESS Transars.
@sandwaves5642Ай бұрын
😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨
@gabriellegiovanni7899Ай бұрын
I prefer analogue.
@hectoralvarez941Ай бұрын
The wife factor score is like -10. lol. Interesting however 😂
@AudiophileJunkieАй бұрын
Yeah... It's going to be tough for even the hubby 🤠
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
yea, just ask my wife. I am always in the dog house. guilty or not
@MrAlb3rtazzo4 күн бұрын
do you people think that he is just telling bs to mislead us ? or he just done not know what Fourier transform is ?
@barneyrubble9309Ай бұрын
and he'll sell exactly zero units. Seems just another maker trying to find a unique selling point for a product that nobody want or needs.
@KevinBower-gy5beАй бұрын
Massively disappointed by the usual easy-to reproduce audio-show fodder for the demo. Why don't any of these companies demo with something complex and with a full-on frequency spectrum where it's often difficullt to separate instruments? Like hard rock or metal? This stuff isn't in any way a proper test IMO.
@ProfessorJohnSmithАй бұрын
BREAKING NEWS! MAN INVENTS WORLDS FIRST 20 WAY LOUDSPEAKER!
@TheBlindAudiophileАй бұрын
BREAKING NEWS! MAN COMBINES ELECTRIC MOTOR WITH DIESEL ENGINE PUTTING TWO MOTORS IN ONE LOCOMOTIVE! What could be more pointless...
@bentonpixАй бұрын
Squirrel
@AudiophileJunkieАй бұрын
Where did you get such extensive vocabulary? 🤠
@bentonpixАй бұрын
@@AudiophileJunkie Ha! It was a reference to the movie UP when a squirrel can be seen walking on a branch behind you in the video. All normal interactions suddenly stop when the dog in the movie sees a squirrel and all that is that is said is “squirrel”. My post was probably too random and cryptic for many to pick up on.
@pedrodepacas4335Ай бұрын
There is something very unnatural about the sound.
@flex-cx9biАй бұрын
Sorry to say it, but this designer have no clue what he is talking about.
@ronaldmcdonald2456Ай бұрын
Lord help us! That is just SOMUCHSTUFFFFF!!!!!!!!!! Imagine adding all of that to the bazillion big and little BOXES already sprouting from my listening room wall. ''Bus driver, bus driver, open the door(((())))!'' Be ye not surprised when one day you read the headline, AUDIOPHILE'S HEAD SPONTANEOUSLY EXPLODES.