World War 2 Dogfights The British Hawker Tempest Dogfight Vs Bf-109 | IL-2

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In this video we dive into the British hawker tempest and look at its performance in a dogfight against a bf-109 the 109 is a common foe the tempest faced at low altitude on the eastern front then the Germans would try to attack ground forces or strafe allied airfields. This video I think gives us a look into History and what happened with these aircraft during world war 2. Thank you very much for watching and your on going support with the channel.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Merch Store: teespring.com/stores/growling-sidewinder-store Once again, apologizes for the lack of tacview in this one, I'll get it fixed for the next video. So as I said in the video I'm interested in bringing new Sims to the channel where we can explore different and new aircraft so I'm trying to introduce Il-2 into the channels rotation this will allow us to have an in-depth look at some different world war 2 aircraft and dive into the history a little more, Let me know your thoughts on this idea and please feel free to suggest other sims and games that may allow us to do this on the channel. Thank you all for watching, and a special thank you to B3AR828 for creating this IL-2 mission for me and making my life much much easier. Thanks guys Take care.

[@shinidigami]

I love the idea of bringing IL-2 into the mix. You might like the IL-2 Cliffs of Dover game, as the planes have the interactive cockpits like DCS.

[@emanuelgendusa3181]

what's the bracket that counts as "low alt" & also could you include variants in the title... like Tempest Mk V vs XXX... jus a suggestion

[@24george2424]

Very excited about more WWII fights. I would love to see you fly a P-39, employing high energy tactics as known from Aleksander Pokryshkin!

[@katanamast279]

Please do a FW 190 vs P47

[@IcePhoenix_yt]

That 2nd round is the fastest I've seen GS kill someone. It seemed like a cake walk to him

[@dstavs]

GS: “I kinda wanna get into the Word War II thing...” YES PLEASE! Looking forward to it.

[@lorenrogers9269]

More WWII, I agree. And how about the Dornier Do-335?

[@rhysgoodman7628]

@@lorenrogers9269 Imagine a Do-335 and a Tempest in DCS…

[@christophercook723]

Too late is finished .Try and improve your appalling written English.

[@ferid9k]

Gs playing il-2? This is gonna be amazing

[@notaveragecr6041]

Damn right.

[@ryanbowers1502]

only for wwII content

[@iatranger]

There's a tempest and typhoon next to each other in Hendon air museum in London and the first thing you realise when you see them is their sheer size compared to a bf109 . They are huge aircraft , like p47 huge .

[@moo9557]

You can find pictures with like at least 15-20 guys sitting on the wing of a tempest.

[@jamesricker3997]

The Me-109 was to small Not enough wing area, which led to some rather nasty handling characteristics and it could not carry enough fuel ammunition to do the job required of it

[@MrDaiseymay]

I'm surprised to read that. On a YT vid about the Typhoon, which has many former pilots talking of their experiences, It ends by showing a beautiful example in a French Museum, not sure where, and they claim it to be, the only complete example, in the world.

[@chogs1]

@@MrDaiseymay it’s in the RAF museum Hendon, I’ve just been there this week.

[@localbod]

​@@MrDaiseymay The one in the museum in Caen, is a replica made from some original parts. There are a couple of Typhoon rebuilds using real airframes. One of them is being done by Kermit Weeks' people at Fantasy Of Flight I believe. 👍

[@agdgdgwngo]

Oh the Tempest absolutely kicks arse. My own pilots note for the this would literally be: "Have fun", for me personally its the most powerful plane in IL2, just seems handle right, plus the 4 20mm cannons mince straight through everything with ease.

[@hanswolfgangmercer]

Very cool to see IL-2 Content! I'd be interested to see you flying the 109 in one of these dogfights. It's a very... unique performance envelope, because its advantages/disadvantages are highly contextual. A spitfire always has to turn fight, a 190 always has to boom and zoom, but a 109 is a turn fighter against P-51s, and an energy fighter against spitfires. I don't always have my best fights in the 109, but I always have my most interesting ones with it.

[@vielplaysdagames2298]

He has lots of 109 vids

[@Wavey1988]

I'm not sure if it's just me not being able to get on with it, but the 109 always feels a bit twitchier in the controls, I love the FW190 though

[@timsullivan4566]

Tempest vs 109? Dream come true! Loved it - thanks SO much for this and the more to come! Yes! Yes! More WWII

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

my pleasure tim thanks for watching boss.

[@sbouchillon]

I’m a 73 yo pilot who has hung up his shingle and put his shirt back on. I truly enjoy reliving my youth vicariously through your videos. Your voice over is unique among all the DCS players. Keep up the good work.

[@flux-be7tr]

I read 'The Big Show" when I was a kid, and loved the Tempest.

[@douglasthompson201]

The Bantam War Books series was great reading!

[@benben2846]

yep, i read this book severals times and it makes me want to read it again ^^

[@sizzler2462]

I read “The big show”this year fantastic read and absolutely terrifying just read “wing leader” by Johnny Johnson it’s a very similar read

[@benben2846]

@@sizzler2462 Thank's...i look if there in french^^

[@SvenTviking]

Clostermann does exaggerate a fair bit. I dunno about the 3,500 hp tune up done on his sabre engine to chase V1s.

[@Viper81]

Nice! Man, I am really not into this Warbird stuff but the Tempest is one hell of a good aircraft and is truly worth watching. Here in Germany we are in a lockdown again and these dogfight videos let time go by a little quicker. Thank you for your outstanding contribution to the world of flightsims.

[@dugiv]

This is great, love the presentation! I think these older (slower) planes make for great content from a viewership standpoint.

[@TheScottShepard]

Great intro. Your enthusiasm shined throughout. Do what’s fun for you and we’ll appreciate it all the more!

[@baginatora]

The sound of machineguns and piston engines! I love watching and participating in such fights! Please, GS, do more of those!

[@michaelbotkin7671]

This was great and I'm looking forward to seeing more WWII content! Love the channel!

[@bmt9998]

Growler this content is our bread and butter man, keep it coming. Love the WW2 stuff and you're good with guns so I always know I'm in for a treat when I see a new vid

[@luizucchetto2528]

I love the Tempest in IL2 BOS! Those 4 canons simply tear apart any plane in its sights! Just not enough rounds!! Great video and fantastic idea to show more BOS content!

[@204pjfaherty]

Your presentation here was excellent and on par with all the work you've done recently. I'm really looking forward to more WW2 videos. The F4U Corsair was my favorite aircraft of WW2 when I was a kid. Bring that beauty out for a spin sometime. Keep up the great work here on your channel. :)

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you very much, I really like the Corsair too I'll find a way to do a video on it one way or another.

[@vielplaysdagames2298]

It sucks because the only games that have it are the old il2 games that are pretty unplayable now unless you want to download lots of mods

[@kg_sroberth2238]

@@vielplaysdagames2298 BAT is a huge ModCollection, but includes WW1, 1918s-1938s (Golden Age), WW2, Korean War, 1950s-2000s. It also has a working onboard radar for WW2 night fighters.

[@patjenkins783]

Hogs rule!!

[@bradyoung8197]

The F4U and the P38 would make for some good content. Like you i have always liked the corn cob (F4U) an it's a close 2nd, but my fav has always been the fork tailed devil (P38), just always liked having 2 engines incase one gets shot up or fails, plus its just an awesome aircraft and pretty fast for its day as well with a runny nose an some lethal boogers lol Just my .02

[@iansluzalo2320]

Hell ya its so nice watching you do realistic dogfights instead of modern jet fighters that rarely if ever do any dog fighting. Love jet fighting with missiles but this is what gives people a chance to experience what happened to those fighter pilots of world war 2. The Tempest is so much better then the BF 109 though in turn and keeps up with speed. Next that would be exciting would be the FW 190 with the tempest? Love the channel.

[@entropyembrace]

I'm really happy to see IL-2 on this channel!

[@jeffreymorris1752]

This is good work, man.

[@cumgoat]

You're playing il2? Holy hell I'm happy

[@RapidFire740]

If you're looking to get into WW2, I would HIGHLY recommend IL2 Cliffs of Dover and the Desert Wings add-on. Team Fusion has done an incredible job of improving the base game and the official release has been excellent. Sure the graphics are dated, but I would say the flight models and full-fidelity interactive cockpits truly make it excel to DCS level of realism. I have some vids on my channel showcasing Cliffs action if you want to see more

[@24george2424]

Very excited about more WWII fights. I would love to see you fly a P-39, employing high energy tactics as known from Aleksander Pokryshkin!

[@ruynunez5645]

Those cobras are something else

[@adamwsaxe]

Right after Pearl Harbor, the AAF's "modern" inventory was made up of P-39s and P-40E Kittyhawks. During America's "hard year" (Dec 41 - Dec 42) obsolescent aircraft like the -39 and -40E often became fodder for experienced Japanese pilots in their lightweight, highly maneuverable aircraft. However . . . the experiences of the AVG--the Flying Tigers in China--operating even older versions of the P-40 laid the groundwork for energy-based tactics that literally kept the USA in the war for a year. The message from Gen. Claire Chenault of the Flying Tigers was clear--avoid a dogfight at all costs. Get above the enemy and dive on them. As you're climbing up after your initial dive, dive again as soon as possible. You're flying an all metal airplane with multiple fifty cals and (in the P-39) a 20mm cannon. You don't have to be the more advanced aircraft (or the more advanced fighter pilot, lol, !). You just have to exploit all the advantages of a typical pre-war American plane--which came down to exploiting it's weight / firepower for energy.

[@Void304]

Great to see you playing IL2 again.

[@stewartmorley2683]

Felt like that 109 pilot had many chances to turn things around and just didn’t take ‘em

[@joepapp01]

So great to see more WW2 content, even if not DCS! Keep it up, man!! :D

[@andybaksh2818]

Dude your vids are amazing!! everyone of your vid I watch I always learn something keep it up man!!

[@nikomurrae6559]

Nice. I like the way this was presented. I'd love to see more WW2 content. I also like your jet content (especially the missile fights) so I hope you wouldn't stop doing that. As far as WarThunder goes, its sim element seems to be alright, but I don't know if the flight-models are all that accurate. It does offer an extreme variety of aircraft though, so it might be interesting for content involving odd-ball aircraft.

[@SteveMurnaghan]

Hey Man, love the channel and I'm excited to see you battle, and then break down, some WW2 dogfights!

[@HerraTohtori]

Bf 109 carrying gunpods in the second fight? "Well, there's your problem..."

[@ItsATrap614]

Loved it. Wouldn´t mind seeing more Il2 stuff in the future!

[@Chally340]

I just love how calm you are as you shred enemies to pieces. Be cool as you hunt...

[@thealpine2239]

I don't have IL-2, but the Tempest in WarThunder is easily one of my favorite planes

[@leighjones5551]

I would be pleased to see you move into il2 stuff, I have been subscribed to your channel for a good while and utilise your info and tactics, so it would be great to have some of that

[@opasquali5937]

Could you maybe play with a p38 next?

[@jackskudlarek3138]

That would be cool. Easy to find small fighters but no one ever does this outside of wt.

[@TheFlatlander440]

@@jackskudlarek3138 That and a DeHavilland Mosquito would be fun.

[@cowman1840]

P 38 vs bf 110

[@moo9557]

@@cowman1840 P-38 vs Bf-110 would likely be a fair fight in IL-2 but IRL the P-38 would win, The 110 was more built like a bomber.

[@legacychase3702]

Been watching since you started. Still loving the content. Keep going 💪

[@aniruddhakashyap6906]

Hope to see more of night vision missions and dogfights, great work!

[@jcason6295]

Love the WW2 idea! And as always great video bro

[@jcjammer8972]

Enjoying your WWII videos, do keep them up! I also grew up reading books on the air war, especially the Battle of Britain (even though I eventually became an infantry officer 🪖), so whatever you can deliver in IL-2 would be most welcome. ‘SUBSCRIBED’

[@chapanation856]

great presentation :-)I'm all for future il-2 and love the old War Birds !

[@opasquali5937]

Thanks for another banger!

[@wb-4117]

your vids are epic, keep up the good work!

[@jobu88]

I remember some British documentary about the Tempest, and the pilots saying it picked up speed in a dive faster than any other plane since its airframe was so clean.

[@PilotWannabe]

You mean seeing the perspective that you could bring to historic aircraft, air battles, tactics, and the men who flew them... followed by a demonstration and TacView analysis? Hell yeah!!

[@grunt167]

I’m all in on more WWII warbird action. I love your videos and explanations.

[@thefreestyler25.warthunder]

I really like these IL2 videos. Do more of these!

[@dioad1739]

Thank you for your history lesson about the Tempest I knew very little about this great plane you are my favorite KZbin channel and I don’t even play the game, you post I click for the king of the sky.

[@danielkoch9442]

Awesome video, really loved it. Pls do more ww2 dogfights

[@nicolassinclair3377]

Love this man!! Miss talking to you brother!

[@Darrylx444]

In addition to the typical fighter-vs-fighter stuff, I'd like to see some other types of PvP air combat on this channel too. I used to have some good times treetop-level-sharking 111s, 110s, and 87s in my trusty LaGG-3 with the 37mm HE rounds. Obviously you could edit out most of the long searching parts of the flight. Some simplistic examples on my channel. Or attacking a high-altitude AI B-25 formation in a 109/190/262, defended by Mustangs, etc. Or being part of a huge Stuka Party diving on enemy ground units with sirens wailing. Epic fun!

[@dannyboy5775]

Superb! Great idea for more WWII content.

[@elmonte5lim]

Yeah, more of this by all means. Great stuff!

[@scotty6346]

@Growling Sidewinder i love your il-2 content mate, So informative and interesting! Next weekend is set aside to fire this sim up and try out all the new content i bought in the Steam sale! Cheers.

[@rodzilla7310]

Make more of these WW2 fighter vs fighter vids! Great work!

[@zombiehunterking3347]

I like this stuff GS and I’ll watch more definitely. Maybe some DCS thrown in from time to time would be good too. Cheers for the entertainment.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Luv any WW2 you want to do :) I'll be more than happy to watch

[@dragoncarver287]

The thing about 20mm cannons. doesn't take very many hits to do some damage. They kind of cover more area during a burst so hits seem more likely. Nice comparison. My personal favorite is P-38. but that's me. cheers

[@mhsuchti84]

You probably already figured that out by now, but you have to write tacviewrecord = 1 into the startup.cfg of IL-2 and press LCtrl + R when you're in the flight to get it recording. Also great video as always i enjoy your IL-2 Videos just as much as your DCS Videos.

[@Ricardobrunete]

Great video, I think the WWII looks awesome in your channel. Would love to see you as well in a squad doing some cooperative missions!!

[@disappointment518]

That intro looks like it could be in a documentary! Keep up the good work!

[@NoelCraigNI]

Dam, I used to love IL2 back in the day, nice to see it again. Try the Yak 3, that things beautiful below like..... 5000 meters but it lacks ammo so get your sharp shooting hat on.

[@jonttul]

No Yak-3s in IL-2:GB yet.

[@NoelCraigNI]

@@jonttul Well... in absence of the Yak-3, the La-5FN would have been my go to alternative.

[@Barrab4s]

Love these WW2 historical intro ! Luuv luuv luv IT! Más, por favour 🧐😎

[@lorrinbarth1969]

Late in the war the allied pilots always worked as a team of four or at least with a wingman. I'd love seeing two good pilots working together in warbirds.

[@SidiVici]

Love you playing IL-2!

[@wtgmapguy]

Great video... I’d love to see some Pacific theatre action. Corsairs and Hellcats vs Zeroes

[@AloysiusDente]

Love the damage models in IL-2. And yeah the Tempest is a joy to fly, it's biggest weakness is being too powerful to the point where you overshoot or g-out, which isn't really a weakness lol.

[@EEE2431.-]

Its not a weakness, its a limitation of pilot with g lock and overshooting.

[@AloysiusDente]

@@EEE2431.- >which isn't really a weakness lol

[@Blackcloud_Garage]

I really like the intro where you discuss the aircraft👍👍

[@davidca96]

the 109 series will always be my favorite plane of that era, its such a beautiful plane.

[@SvenTviking]

Have you some brain injury? The 109 is a lumpy thing with and ugly cockpit canopy and a tail fin that can’t decide whether it wants to be angular or curved. Then there are the tail plane supports. Ugly as sin.

[@mobius7089]

@@SvenTviking better than that godforsaken Mustang or that tumor of a spitfire

[@sugarnads]

@@mobius7089 you have ZERO taste.

[@mobius7089]

@@sugarnads lol that's my point, you shit on the 109 I shit on the allied aircraft. Except the Jug, she's beautiful.

[@opasquali5937]

Gs is so underrated... ..this channel is sick

[@MM-kv8ly]

I like the history lessons with each plane. Thanks

[@watonemillion]

You don't even have to ask, GS. Your presentation is always great

[@steelpanther88]

Best pros about tempest in my opinion are: 1) excellent allaround visibility bubble canopy, 2) killer guns, 3) high speed. I think you did an excellent job in the dogfight riding at the edge of the blackout. That really shows the good stick ability of the pilot. Some of those gunshots were clearly going to miss because of incorrect lead, though. I like to practice in single player also shooting snapshots where you have different plane of motion wrt. enemy aircraft. So that you let the enemy fly left to right across the full view of the canopy into the gunsight and you keep your own wings level. Sort of like "ambush method" for deflection shooting. Shooting at front quarter snapshots can also end the fight quickly without risking full headon. With jets the closure rate is so insane that front quarter shots are more difficult. For those in-plane deflection shots where the target goes under the nose, I think sometimes the AI sees that and make a tricky dodge when its not visible to you xD.

[@tequila6955]

Great vid. Just picked IL-2 up.

[@trav1971]

Fresh battles make my day 👌💯💯💯

[@user-vz5bu6js4p]

This is very interesting actually! Learning about WW2 planes. They aren't as boring as one may think. And the graphics are awesome. They even made those little flames come out of the engines' exhaust pipes! That is so cool! As i commented before, i'd leave no more than 1/3 of the time for tacview. And as regards to history of a given airplane, maybe you should just make separate videos about each one. There's a lot of them in different countries and it's very interesting to know which ones faced each other in real battles and which were victorious. There is literally a ton of info you could provide! I think it would be very, very interesting.

[@_ace_defective_]

Oh my god IL-2! I'm really happy to see this, I hope we will indeed get more of this! War Thunder would be interesting if only because I think the way the game plays (mouse aim, third person) really changes things up a lot if you're not doing the sim mode, but otherwise I feel like it's generally worse than IL-2 in sim mode.

[@stefanblackadder5236]

I will watch all of it. I would love to watch you master the WW1 planes. It’s historically interesting and it’s where it all started.

[@justinsimpson1139]

Yes please would love to see a lot of WWII stuff!

[@Empirehog]

I miss IL-2, used to play it way back in the Forgotten Battles days!

[@stevetomassetti4420]

Love your channel! How about a matchup between a Chenault’s flying tiger P-40 and a Zero? Two very different aircraft that were matched up over China circa 1939.

[@velvetmark1]

Ace video! Yes please to more WW2 stuff! I really wish for a Pacific add on for IL2. That would be perfect...What's your thoughts on Rise of Flight WW1? Would be great to see you handle some of those classics

[@tnix80]

Most people don't know this but this is the best allied fighter of WW2. Just from its characteristics and from using it myself in sims. Post war, the griffon spits and p51H were great.

[@AceCmbatguy25]

I don't fly DCS butlove watching your videos. However I do fly iL-2 and it's great to see you fly in it !

[@goingfubar7182]

Great job 👍

[@Michaelkaraz]

Awesome man

[@jaime683]

Really appreciate your channel. Have you considered a Final Count Down theme fight, where Zero’s and Tomcats fought. Would be neat to see 190s or 109s against F86 or F15s

[@lolektv69]

Nicely done

[@TuesdayNightTaped]

P-51 vs Spitfire! Battle of the legends!

[@jonhimself77]

@@-Zevin- totally depends on the Mark of Spitfire.

[@mostevil1082]

​@@-Zevin- The Russians usually got older used Spitfires, it wasn't best at low speed and low altitude where they tended to fight, plus there's a load of Soviet propaganda to factor in. With Spitfires and Mustangs from the same time period running the same fuel the Spitfire should have the advantage. The P-51 was incredible considering it's range and pilot skill will play a big part, but it's oversold by those US history channel documentaries. It was very good and it had the range to go with the bombers, but by then the Luftwaffe was diminished and the Mustangs usually had a big numerical superiority. In every US warbird documentary I've seen it's the usual nonsense about "awesome power" and "greatest aircraft of the war", be that the P-51, P-38 or P-47. The pilots also seem to invent boom and zoom in each one too, which everyone was aware of and the German aces had been using since the start of the war (I think they did invent the silly name though). Pinch of salt required.

[@botchii3059]

@@-Zevin- Depends on which Spitfire. Spitfire Mk XIV was better than the P-51D in next to every way. It was faster, was more manoeuvrable, had much better climb, had a higher power-to-weight ratio, and had a higher service ceiling. The only area where the Mk XIV was properly lacklustre in was with its range, though that's tongue-and-cheek with Spitfires. Those kill figures I believe are also based off of claims, which are known to be exaggerated by an exorbitant amount. I believe there is also no record of total Spitfire kills.

[@botchii3059]

@@-Zevin- I know that; you hinted that a P-51 vs Spitfire dogfight would be in favour of the P-51, though the opposite would have been true. Spitfire was designed to gain air-superiority; P-51 was designed to give good high-altitude bomber escort. P-51 can not beat the Spitfire in a dogfight or energy fight. Spitfire can not escort bombers to 2500km.

[@botchii3059]

@@-Zevin- I stated earlier that the Spitfire Mk XIV had not only a better climb rate in comparison to a P51D, but also had a faster top speed, a higher service ceiling, and higher power-to-weight ratio. Mk XIV was a better air superiority fighter in general, and could beat the P-51 at dogfighting and energy fighting. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire_(Griffon-powered_variants) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-51_Mustang

[@callumbush1]

Sick bro!

[@chancia23]

I recently saw a documentary on the Tempest and a WW2 pilot they interviewed said it was common they would black out 3 or 4 times a flight. It seemed like their biggest issue too.

[@kylestickley8096]

Growling Sidewinder I love your videos! I'd be interested to get your take on WarThunder Simulation mode.

[@davidrawle5730]

Thanks for your channel and the constant work. I would like to see 2 v 2 tactics and escort tactics.

[@88denji]

And here I am again, asking for you to fly the Bf109 in such a fight

[@captainicelander3898]

Love love love! that wa so awsum!!!

[@Mobius118]

IL-2 has explosions that are SO much more realistically pleasing than DCS.. it’s fun to see you branching out!

[@Hunter_312]

Great stuff, man! Would love to see a video on the Fw-190 or the F4U.

[@alessandrofavaro7722]

Unfortunately this game doesn't have an f-4u yet, I'd love to see one coming

[@davidian7787]

My Grandfather flew this after Hurricanes in WW2 and the Battle of Britain. Must have been ok as I'm typing this now. He was a wiry, no nonsense gentleman. You wouldn't mess with him. He was, like many of that generation, hard as nails to the bone. Even in his 80's, when he spoke, you listened. No side to him at all. The world needs more of him now.

[@AlejandroP1980s]

I listen to him unlike biden who has astheimer

[@thewanderingguru4097]

Love the warbirds. Keep flying them!

[@elmonte5lim]

Blimey! That thing's a brute. More, along these lines, would be very welcome.

[@wustengeist1791]

wouldn't be able to do any of these in WarThunder and its snail Flight model. Good job, nice vid