World War II justified by former German soldiers

World War II justified by former German soldiers

[@CaptainGrimes1]

They're still waiting for Steiner's counter attack

[@eligenovese783]

underrated comment lol

[@teresitaaustria5664]

30 mins ago​@@eligenovese783

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

Corporal Steiner didnt care about his cross of iron.

[@dailyqwikbytes]

"I understood that reference..."

[@caleblebaron1179]

"what do you mean Steiner's counter attack couldn't make it?"

[@jont2576]

It's so weird to see a internet argument take place in real life.

[@booldawg]

I wonder what emoji could be used for the face on her at the end!

[@eagledetection4451]

Especially for being filmed in looks like the early 80'z

[@clarenceboddicker6679]

Internet arguments are real life too you know

[@alicesmith2306]

Oops.Amit is working overtime🤣🤣🤣

[@AbrahamLincoln4]

I'm sure you'll find many internet arguments down here.

[@machiavelliancheese9681]

I kinda felt like the germans were making a fair, educated point until she mentioned the Netherlands and they were like oh helll yea we marched into that shit lmfao

[@mattthelearner2797]

Absolute madlads

[@adrianshephard378]

@@aurorasdawn4681 The British and french allowed germany to take austria and czechia. They even told them that if they retreated from Poland, there would be no war. But the germans refused. Then they didn't even invade germany and just sat on their asses for 6 months. That sound to you like they wanted war?

[@aurorasdawn4681]

@@adrianshephard378 That's wrong. Their demands went far beyond retreating from Poland and included the secession of Austria from Germany. I.e. reversing what Hitler considered his greatest achievement which would have to be carried out against the will of the Austrian people. Also, the French already invaded Germany in September 1939 but retreated because the Wehrmacht was ordered to retreat as well without a fight. After that, it took some time to organise the Allied troops from all over the world, deploy the British Expeditionary Force, prepare the invasion of Norway etc. They attacked once they had finished their preparations in spring 1940. You're not completely wrong though. Many allies were indeed reluctant to go to war. The British government, for example, was split almost 50/50 between pro peace/pro German voices (like Edward Wood and Neville Chamberlain) and pro war/pro Jewish voices (like Leslie Hore-Belisha, Anthony Eden and Winston Churchill). But any chance of making peace was gone when Winston Churchill came to power in May 1940 since he explicitly declared to refuse any kind of negotiations with Germany.

[@larrybirdainge5951]

@@adrianshephard378 churchill denied a half dozen peace offers from hitler

[@abeedhal6519]

@@aurorasdawn4681 shhh that's too red pilled for most leftists in this comment section...

[@pcprinciple3774]

"600 went away, 49 came back" "Is there evidence of that?" "Yeah they didn't come back"

[@notimeforspace2477]

partisans

[@Buoyant_Bear]

Nobody takes somebody at their word anymore due to how many pathological liars are running around. Now, if you even cite personal examples as reasons for why you vote a certain way, it's met with "LOL no source/citation", from what? CNN? Life experience IS a 'source', even if it's only seen as credible to the person that experienced it.

[@wulfsorenson8859]

😂😂😂

[@fatassturtle8183]

@@notimeforspace2477yea it makes sense too those guys got themselves all killed

[@Deseretian]

When your school textbook doesnt teach about the allies and the two front war causing food and medicine supply shortages then duh prisoners will die

[@Outlier999]

Many German veterans only regretted one thing about World War Two. They regretted that they lost.

[@patrickgrant6389]

Same with Japanese vets

[@benjaminkline2529]

I mean look at the world now. The degeneracy. Marxism. Global capitalism. It kind of is regrettable they lost.

[@strangebrew1231]

we regret it too

[@D95RO]

They should regret the war crimes thay they did commit and the jews they killed.

[@Outlier999]

@@patrickgrant6389 They’re even worse.

[@molanlabexm15]

“That’s right, we marched in.” 💀

[@molanlabexm15]

@@paulmonn7988 Not a comparison.

[@sadriper8747]

@@paulmonn7988 We don't care about your opinion Mohamed, it doesn't have anything to do with WWII.

[@janjansen7983]

@@paulmonn7988 damn you guys wanna talk gaza everywhere right Where were you during the syrian war? Where were you when the muslim minority in China is being killed in camps? Where were you during all the other endless conflicts in the middle east and in africa? (too many to count) You were nowhere. Now shut your mouth. Go figure

[@SkeletonXin]

"Bland statement" -skull emoji- It's like you zoomers operate off a script.

[@molanlabexm15]

@@SkeletonXin sounds like u a gay.

[@HereToComment24]

Beginning: Soviets sucked because they didn't respect the laws of war. Ending: "War has its own laws"

[@Wilhelmofdeseret]

True but he still made his point clear. The Germans respected the Geneva convention at least the Wehrmacht(vast majority of the time). The Soviet regular army didnt. Partisans don’t answer to the Geneva convention and aren’t soldiers so there’s not much you can do about it other than deport their families. Allies did the same thing

[@KK-nn8jt]

Aye, and the soviet didn't respect those laws

[@Ryo-xx1lm]

@@Wilhelmofdeseret And the french, who absolutely sucked during WWII, used the Goumiers, an "army" of North africans soldiers who commited some of the most orrendous war crimes during WWII. The Americans wanted to stop them, but someone said "You are here to fight Germans, not french".

[@brucenorman8904]

@@Wilhelmofdeseret The Germans did not respect the Geneva convention, the Wehrmacht was complicit in most of the atrocities in the east.

[@brucenorman8904]

The French did not suck in World war 2 there troops in general fought very well, Their problems in 1940 were the fault of the constant change in governments during the 1930s, those Governments preferred Commanders in Chief who left them alone and Gamelin placed his headquarters in a Chateau that had no telephone lines nor radios. he had to use motorcycle couriers to carry messages to and from his communications center some 15 minutes away.

[@raptor96]

This illustrates how Germans have mastered sarcasm. "That's right...we marched in without asking permission"

[@Prometeo9]

That aint sarcasm. Its real talk

[@raptor96]

@@Prometeo9 I know it's real talk. They were ordered to march in, but there's sarcasm in "...we matched in without asking permission"

[@imGeistevereint]

@@raptor96 its actually a more thought-through response as it might seem at first since the German government set an ultimatum for the dutch government to allow German troops to secure the borders from allied landings which wasnt met (in time) and resulted in the Netherlands being occupied.

[@sarubet8725]

@@imGeistevereint its not really that deep. The old men whined and complained about how their people were brutalised yet made fun of the people who they themselves brutalised

[@ethanschneider-ck2tl]

@@sarubet8725 Maybe if you could understand German then you could actually understand the tone he was speaking in. Some words aren't translated as they should be iether and lead to a false image in your imagination

[@Sevey11]

There are three side to every story. Your side, their side & the truth.

[@kirby5239]

cobra kai?

[@littleferrhis]

Really just two, the truth doesn’t exist.

[@piraetje675]

@@littleferrhis that's stupid, what if both people lie about a tomato being blue? you know it's red so the truth is that it's red,the truth does exist

[@chadporter5907]

Ain't that the truth🙄

[@midimusicforever]

@@littleferrhis Wrong

[@peterburke9686]

I like how the old timers think to themselves “well no shit” when she explains about the ambush.

[@gasperpoklukar8372]

You like their smugness and their justification of reprisals?

[@evanderdelarosa462]

Lol seriously

[@evanderdelarosa462]

@@gasperpoklukar8372 dude chill, it’s history. These ole boys are piles of dust now..

[@peterburke9686]

I’m not trying to justify anything, just making an observation.

[@wawawuu1514]

@@evanderdelarosa462 Those "ole boys" caused a whole lot more piles of dust with their actions. Piles, more like tons upon tons of dust. "It's just history" Yeah, it clearly was just history to the woman in the video, right? What's more, it's more than just history due to the relevance it has for all these Wehraboos and full-blown Nazis here on KZbin. You don't speak out against them, you make them stronger by ignoring them. What was that quote again about evil only needing good men doing nothing against it? It's in one of the Call of Duty games, even.

[@althunder4269]

She is stunned at the end by their attitude.

[@den343]

Stunned by the fact that not everyone see the world as she does and other narratives exist.

[@JacobOman-qb1lm]

Dutch people are snowflakes with big mouths (especially when they drink beer) sorry to say but it’s the truth.

[@wokeeye6441]

Ordinary Soldier: I fought against the Russians Woke Soldier: I fought against *bolschevismus*

[@wokeeye6441]

@HITLERDIDNOTHINGWRONG care to explain?

[@brbrdeng9122]

Warning this comment is somewhat long, if you don't like context and analogies of Historical Significance from a historian of 12 years study/work, stop reading now: Imagine you have two sworn enemies named Fasces and Comisky, Fasces strikes Comisky first and you see this as a grand oppurtunity for a temporary alliance against Fasces, and eventually you defeat Fasces with Comisky. But now Comisky is stronger than before and threatens and fights you while Fasces with sad amusement tells you how you chose the wrong enemy to ally yourself with. Comisky is worse than Fasces tenfold. I gave the best example of how communism came on the rise as an increased World Power. You think the Holocaust was bad? The Gulags make the concentration camps look like Camp Green Lake. America chose the worst of the enemies it faced to ally itself with. And look at us now as Americans, literal self neutering, self hatred, illogical hatred towards each other, acceptance of sexualization of children, inflation, crippling debt....all because we chose Comisky over Fasces. Comisky took over the schools to "educate" us on his agenda, and a lot of us Americans are getting fucked over by these "Educated" people because Comisky knew that he couldn't face America without heavy losses and/or defeat. Subjugate and indoctrinate the young to tear the country from the inside before invading it, because we all know that invading a country unites its people, but break the people before invasion and you have won without setting a single troop on the beaches. Not saying Fascism is better than Communism, just merely stating that Hitler had 0 interest to fight a pacifist country (America) and if Imperialism did not attack Pearl Harbor and relinquished their territorial gains, Germany and Russia would have torn each other apart, most likely Germany would have lost still, but Russia would have no power left to hold the vast territories it had held pre Cold War, therefore Communist dominance in Eastern Europe would not exist and communism would have fallen like the Russian Empire after the string of failures and losses fell on Ioseb Jugashvili (Joseph Stalin) like they had on Czar Nicholas II. In an ideal world that would've happened.

[@NikolaAvramov]

Scumbag liars. Those "Boslheviks" they were "fighting" were all in labor camps and jailed for crimes. And they started their career by German industrialists sponsoring them and hauling gold for Jewish and other mercenaries in St. Petersburg. Lenin got caught with documents that clearly show that he was an agent of German intelligence.

[@guitaristshawn]

All of Europe united to battle Bolshevism, the Indians and Arabs included. The European Volunteer Movement. Besides that, even before the war, National Socialism was like a renaissance across Europe, and many nations formed similar movements analogous to Hitler's. It was the natural human progression, and a new Europe was forming! Unfortunately, the opposite powers were too powerful and too cunning to allow this transformation to occur.

[@FranceFreeL]

Bolshevism exists today now its technology . Bolshevism is anything that destroys

[@drewgoddard7796]

My grandfather died in a concentration camp. He was drunk and fell off his guard tower 😢

[@freshflesh3292]

Ayoo 😂😂

[@sourpusstv7984]

🥶

[@Isaac-muntz]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@BobJohnson648]

The other guards were drunk too...they just didn't fall

[@unkono]

Ahhh yes the movie Postal.

[@martinmlakar123]

For anyone wondering, the name of the full documentary is On the threshold of oblivion. You can find it online.

[@joedonzi9552]

Thanks , I will look for it. : - ))

[@clintc724]

Thanks!

[@theowlfromduolingo7982]

Hi, I just searched for it on KZbin but I can only find short version, not more than 5 minutes long

[@theowlfromduolingo7982]

@Austrian Painter I don’t know if I can trust an Austrian painter 😏

[@randymillhouse791]

Dank u wel. Ik ben een Amerikan. Ik like de Nederlandse taal. But I probably butchered it a bit there.

[@FindTheFun]

"German soldiers didn't do that. If they did, they were sent to the Strafbataillon" Meanwhile in the Strafbataillon:

[@aileanbreac5584]

That's what I was thinking.

[@darthrevan88]

Germans barely did this even if it happened, Americans were far worst more than 1M rape just in France.... and so were the Russians...

[@omicrontheta38]

what happened in the Strafbataillon?

[@FindTheFun]

@@omicrontheta38 Watch the movie "Come And See"

[@followingfire76]

@@omicrontheta38 riggity rape

[@prairiehawker]

My father was a Wehrmacht Veteran of the Eastern Front. He survived the Battle of Kursk. He'd had told you pretty much the same thing if he were alive today.

[@chrisd2051]

I mean the Wermacht were simply soldiers fighting a losing war. It was those SS bastards who killed the innocent.

[@samjones3106]

So was mine. Don't know which battles he was in though.

[@gasperpoklukar8372]

So he was an unrepentant Nazi, too?

[@gasperpoklukar8372]

@@chrisd2051 Yeah, no. The Werhmacht committed war crimes pretty much everywhere they went.

[@chrisd2051]

@@gasperpoklukar8372 moy drog imma need evidence

[@alpinweiss]

This is what Finnish veterans always say. They protected the Nordic countries against the soviets all alone. Finland was the only German ally that wasnt conquered.

[@DavidRamos-no4lh]

Well Finland quite literally switched sides

[@lufsolitaire5351]

Finland did pretty well for themselves and managed to survive the winter war, allying with their Germans, and then still keeping the Soviets from taking too much of their land or occupying them. Mannerheim and Rytti had to make tough decisions but what they did was for the good of the Finnish people. Still think it’s funny that in one talk, Mannerheim smoked in Hitler’s face; being an aristocrat he saw Hitler as some devil upstart.

[@Salsadans123]

Finland has been let down by the rest of Europe. Perhaps because they couldn't make a commitment, or didn't want to argue with Russia at the time, which they hoped to make an ally. Germany was an aggressor, but Russia had already set its eyes on Finland and Northern Europe. The tensions were there much earlier. Finland protected itself and they were brave people.

[@olemanden22]

Welll Finland turned down around 20k soldiers from norway Denmark and sweden. And recived weapons from the above named Allies

[@peterlustig6888]

@@Salsadans123 Even as a non nazi sympathizer, you can`t deny that germany saved europe from the soviet union. Obviously with their own interests in mind and not out of pure protectionism but still. Without germany the warswa pact would have ended with spain.

[@mvpno1726]

I wish the guy with the green hat would had the opportunity to speak his mind.

[@GermanPredatorHawk]

2:27 I bet that Guy wanted to say "Ausschreitungen von einzelnen Soldaten hat es gegeben, aber nicht in diesem großen Maße" "Incidents from some German Wehrmachtsoldiers happend but not in this dimensions"

[@keagan3548]

@@GermanPredatorHawk Tief

[@yahyagannour8486]

you mean Uncle junior from the sopranos

[@kieranjonesellis8221]

I don’t believe you need to open his mouth to speak his mind you can see everything you needed to hear his face

[@silverbullet2008bb]

@@kennetheo LMAO! That was a slick move. I love TGSNT!

[@AdamSakowicz-hs7ss]

They're not telling you these excuses, they are telling themselves

[@doonewatts7155]

Absolutely

[@liridon2617]

''They'' are your betters, Oh chosen monkey

[@Vskayp974]

🤡

[@lol-fe6xn]

✡

[@DB-pp7kj]

✡️

[@manuelmoraleda9285]

"The first casualty in a war is the truth" I forgot who said that.

[@thyssenheinel6507]

socrates

[@manuelmoraleda9684]

Thank you.

[@exelchannel8806]

I think Taylor Swift said that.

[@jpmnky]

Wasn’t that Master P?

[@tomdolan9761]

Aeschylus.....In War the first casualty is the truth.......Senator Hiram Johnson is credited with the more modernized...Truth is the first casualty in War

[@bosanpisan]

War is old men talking, young man dying End of war is old men talking, young crying.

[@Made_In_Heavenn]

Well not the same as 3rd reich

[@efe9625]

Americans don't have the consept of the nation nor the motherland. In most other parts of the world, people go to war to defend their countries, wives and children. There're no such politics more important than your motherland and your family. At least that's what is most important for me or someone who is not American.

[@Oscylot88]

@@efe9625 muh freedom!!1!

[@rosaoddin4338]

@@efe9625 BULLSHIT - what tree did you fall out of, Efe? Must have hit your head VERY hard and can’t think straight anymore. Get yourself off to a brain doctor, you need a lot of help.

[@johnpapazisis1997]

No, War is about poor men dying and old rich bastards giving orders behind the scenes. It's about rich and poor not young and old.

[@johnzehrbach820]

To cloud the issue more, there were over 500,000 thousand volunteers from the rest of Europe whole divisions were from Sweden Denmark etc.

[@soreliansorelianism6802]

The Latvian Waffen-SS had up to 80,000 people if I'm not mistaken

[@whomstdvent4844]

There were hundreds of thousands of Russians fighting with Germany against bolshevism too. They were naïve not to realise average Russians would have saw it as an invasion of their home

[@radacious29]

@@whomstdvent4844 You're naive for assuming that the Germans weren't just using them as expendable bodies. It's well known they weren't fans of Slavs. Many crimes would have been committed in eastern Europe even if the Russians were communist.

[@whomstdvent4844]

@@radacious29 I'm not denying that, only the 3rd wave of the Waffen-SS viewed Russians and Slavs as equal, most high ranking Germans despised Slavs and Russia. I'm saying that to not expect resistance to an invasion of their homeland was naïve, as if magically they were going to denounce bolshevism and throw flowers at their feet like they did in Ukraine.

[@nikolakaravida9670]

@@whomstdvent4844 There weren't nowhere near "hundreds of thousands of Russians" among German ranks. It's questionable if there were any at all. Quit selling this narrative that Barbarossa was some liberation of the Slavic people from communism. The Nazis hated Slavs and planned to eradicate and enslave them (Generalplan Ost).

[@yatosan3524]

When the argument is that "it was not the army it was the police ". Like "no we had other people doing that, another Department

[@ALaKouji]

He did make a fair point, police and the army are two totally different things with different abilities and rules

[@TimothyStclair-v4p]

@@ALaKouji Then you got the Nazi.

[@Zinozad]

Probably wasn't the Nazis, otherwise the girl would have mentioned that.

[@yatosan3524]

@@ALaKouji Yet both killed civilians. Hunted for them. This distinction in combination with the fact that he still believes the old propaganda is showcasing how badly they're brainwashed.

[@yatosan3524]

​@@ALaKoujiyet both murdered and hunted civilians and political opposition. This distinction in combination with the fact that he still believes the old lies is showing how bad they're brainwashed. All my answers are disappearing:/

[@bussolini6307]

Imagine what would they say If they saw how Europe is today

[@gnatz8588]

@Adolf Hitler I thought you were behind the moon with your dinosaur army

[@edvinparmeza1298]

@@OuseBerk He actually came back...he played in the german movie Look Who's Back

[@alwayswas8155]

Many of them after the war supported the Soviet Union over the US as they believed liberalism and not Marxism-Leninism would be the downfall of Europe, how right they were.

[@19dollarfortnitecard35]

@@alwayswas8155 both suck , both are evil

[@alwayswas8155]

@@19dollarfortnitecard35 Yeah, liberalism and Marxism-Leninism are pretty cringe

[@tf2engineer]

I never expected Germans to argue about something so grave... yet remain so civil! No shouting matches like we have in the US.

[@pablodelcastillo7569]

Very common attitude in Germany and Scandinavia. The other way around happens in Southern Europe, though, specially in Spain and Italy.

[@Ripper935]

They aren't obnoxious like the brits or yanks.

[@ruthie8785]

These are literal Nazis you chode.

[@blaze9670]

Ikr

[@christopherstein2024]

This was a different time. People had more manners in the US and UK too.

[@petitnicollas]

- They didn't sign the Geneva Convention - Well you guys also broke the rules by invading Netherlands "War has its own laws"

[@damianoasteriti8530]

The international red cross did regular inspections of all concentration camps and never found any wrongdoing, you ignorant ape

[@googlekurvaanyad4816]

@@damianoasteriti8530 yeah? show me documents about regular inspections of Auschwitz, Treblinka etc.

[@houseplant1016]

He literally said that it was justified because they were partisans...

[@paulusradomski]

As far as I know, Germany signed Geneva Convention - so they decided, that they will obey the rules. So now they only look for an excuse for the fact, that they didn't. Pacta sunt servanda. Even if the enemy is not a side of the convention, those, who signed it should obey it's rules. I know, that the soviets committed numerous crimes and atrocities (as big part of them were committed on citizens of my country) , but it doesn't change anything. It's about who you want to be: same bastard, as they were (and are), or someone, who doesn't have a problem with looking at the mirror.

[@Loading_Nukes]

​@@paulusradomski as said war has its own laws

[@joshualijnen7446]

Did they delete the original?

[@GiraffeFeatures]

What the actual fuck KZbin. How dare we hear the other side of the story???

[@sw3aty_forte]

hmmmmmmmmm

[@joshualijnen7446]

Interim Ikr such bullshit, youtube deletes a lot of ww2 footage here on youtube but it’s just history like come on!

[@diegopalmeira2587]

They are deleting everything that tells the other side of history. People are starting to learn the truth.

[@blackfyre5158]

Of course they did. Little bitches can't handle opposing viewpoints cause there position is so weak

[@Senaleb]

General Patton .."We have defeated the wrong enemy".

[@Smudgeroon74]

Then he died in an "accident" a couple of months later.

[@tedstapleton5561]

Please stop

[@juandavidnustesgutierrez9796]

"The good guys will always be seen as the bad guys and the bad guys will always be seen as heroes" Example, people hating on the US for being "Imperialists" and people believing in communism.

[@juandavidnustesgutierrez9796]

@Dogu Kilickap Communism is the bad guy, but always seen as good guys, I can easily ask anyone about what he thinks about the bolshevik trash, and they'll actually talk good about them, meanwhile if I talk about what they think about America, they'll say it's imperialistic, trashy and stinky.

[@robertevers8165]

TurnOffThe Talmudvision Don’t forget that they also ignored the Soviet occupation of Poland AFTER the war was over. Defense of Poland was only ever an excuse

[@JoboMcFakeAF]

Takes guts to keep fighting knowing your out numbered and out gunned

[@Fischjesicht]

You're

[@theoderich1168]

Did anyone have an option in those days ? It's live or die - there was no escape for 99,9999 % of the people.

[@JoboMcFakeAF]

@@theoderich1168 it’s something I personally couldn’t fathom. Europe during the war . Makes problems/events that have happened in recent decades look microscopic

[@theoderich1168]

@@JoboMcFakeAF you are absolutely right, it takes a lot of courage. I have been trying to imagine what it must have been like to have lived in those days - it is almost impossible. Already as a kid I have been interested in ww2, in Germany it is present all the time and still almost no one I knew spoke about it. My mother never spoke about her father who died at the front in Holland in 1944, that did not make things better for the younger folks living with a taboo they could not grasp.

[@NikolaAvramov]

Axis started the Eastern front with 8 million troops. The Red Army had 6 million troops. Public statistic. For fuck sake.

[@australopithecus_lucis]

This whole conversations is really eerie and chilling. The comment section is truly something else. It also made me think about how when you're taught about WW2 and the rise to power of the nazis, it all sounds like this grand and sudden event, and yet, the situation we're in doesn't seem all that different than the 30s upon some consideration. But yeah, going back to the conversation; a lot of people in the comments seem to praise these men for how eloquent they are, but their rhetoric is just pathetic; sure, an interesting historical document, but what they are saying is so awful, what makes it digestible and for some even appealing, is the context and their manners. When I got to the end, I felt the need to give that woman a hug, what a disturbing situation

[@thehungh0nkey853]

you're such a puss lmao

[@toast2610]

Your comment is eerie.

[@No-ql]

@@toast2610 your existance is eerie

[@evs251]

Them being against R*pe is eerie in your opinion? Alrighty

[@australopithecus_lucis]

@@evs251 ​ @evs251 Did I say that? No. I didn't. I said "whole conversation", not a specific statement. If that's what you understood, you might as well have asked me if the fact that the lady is from Putten is eerie.

[@bunning63]

My father was deported from Holland traveling by cattle wagon to Germany. Slight issue was he was born in Hamburg but his father was Dutch. His mother moved to Holland when he was six so he was considered legally Dutch. He had a few stories to tell but also one's of the positive side of human nature while a prisoner also, including a German guard that refused to carry a firearm and their being allowed to raid a railway yard for coal for their stove, he reckoned the German guards just looked the other way. His older brother once they clued up to his heritage was 'invited' to join the army on the Eastern front. Taken prisoner he managed an escape with a group and were successful. They had learnt that their life expectancy was not long. Later he was again a POW of the British, I think? But escaped again.

[@dibaldgyfm9933]

This is a deeply touching family history. Sending my thoughts to your father and his brother ❤ They were geniuses of survival.

[@nikolay-avokadunskiy]

in the WW2 time most of my grandpas were children...

[@Squidgy55]

@@nikolay-avokadunskiy Wow. How many do you have?

[@bunning63]

@@dibaldgyfm9933 That's a good comment, they were. Interestingly they had another brother that never saw conflict till after the war. He was drafted into the Dutch Imperial Army, he caused so much trouble that those senior to him addressed him as 'Mr Hart', and ask him if he wanted to what ever task was at hand, he would apparently normally decline. My father said his brother was invited to join MENSA so I think he used his smarts to get his own way.

[@concentratecorner1744]

my grandpa whom i didnt get to meet as he passed before i was born was in holland as well, were deutch, he was like your uncle 'invited' to join the military. He ended up in a resistance group that would smuggle american and allied pilots who were shot down and survived back to friendly lines. He was caught with an american pilot i believe and was sent to a concentration camp. He had some gnarly scars on his neck from a experiment they did on him there. He told my mom about how they would have hidden pockets in their coats to try to smuggle food back to their family, he got caught with a thing of milk and they poured it out in front of him. Ultimately he was liberated when the camp was bombed if i recall correctly either that or allied troops jsut showed up and he was able to escape in the fighting. He came to america afterward but i still have a lot of family in Holland and Poland. We still have a old nazi trench coat he took off a dead soldier

[@spudnikca8959]

I thought that was pretty civil, compared to U.S. citizens.

[@JoeDiGiovanniIV]

That bcuz were proud Americans. Get it right

[@mr.nobody9165]

@@JoeDiGiovanniIV bruh

[@Bristecom]

USA: We've proudly killed millions of innocent people in the name of globalism... I mean democracy and freedom! USA USA USA!!!

[@JoeDiGiovanniIV]

@@Bristecom too bad we didn't get you too

[@Bristecom]

@@JoeDiGiovanniIV I am a true American you idiot. Anyone who supports globalism is a traitor - pure and simple!

[@charlesmartella]

My grandfather on my mother's side was a Scotsman who fought for Australia's 2/28 th and was captured by Rommels forces at Tobruk. He was well treated by the Germans and spoke highly of Rommel.

[@ChrisWZM]

Los que ganan escriben la historia

[@chrisgunn4797]

​@@ChrisWZMfacts

[@dagmarvandoren9364]

Danke...deutschland!

[@charlesmartella]

@@dagmarvandoren9364 ❤️

[@valevisa8429]

Too bad Jews didn't see Germans the same way.

[@cessactdm]

i love her face when they just own their invasion of the netherlands, she is SPEECHLESS.

[@WilhelmEley-s3y]

I mean it isn't like the allies were any different. Look at the british invasion of neural Iceland in WW II, same thing.

[@jipke]

Those first 55 seconds are pure class, haha what a bloke.

[@xx_bigwillyman64_xx72]

the Germans xDDD

[@malinwa4ever315]

So proud My elevator in my building in Belgium is made by Krupp No kidding

[@oliver2543]

@@malinwa4ever315 mijn oma heeft ook een van krupp🤣

[@Four-of-Six]

@@malinwa4ever315 The Ikea in the Heerlen ( NL) has a Schindler's Lift...... LOL

[@MorningMindfulness]

He kinda talks like Jeremy Clarkson in a way

[@CodaMission]

The narcissist's prayer: That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not our fault. And if it was, we didn't mean it. And if we did, you deserved it.

[@CodaMission]

@Real Man Die Another edgelord. Have you ever genuinely considered the fact that you might not have the best ideas if your thought process just boils down to "genuinely support the bad argument for the meme"?

[@CodaMission]

@Real Man Die I'd be angrier if they invaded my country. Don't invade, and you won't get blown to pieces by partisans. They were justified. The Wehrmacht was not. Should have stayed home.

[@CC-kj4yc]

@Jesus Is Lord Don't invade peoples homeland and you won't get ambushed lol

[@CodaMission]

@Jesus Is Lord Jesus would smite you, false Christian

[@christopherstein2024]

@@jesusislord1153 "justified bro" - the words where even the last person knew that your father failed in life.

[@DunmeriDrain]

Still has the grindset, after all these years

[@ProfShibe]

sigma grindset

[@bobbyfirmansyah8580]

Based Ligma Grindset

[@whowasisaydavidovichberglo8036]

tsuacoloH ageM tnemucoD evihcrA tell eh gramm chan el.

[@redrumreverse964]

Reichset

[@Bahamut998]

@@redrumreverse964 That's an entire different level from Sigma lol.

[@torginus]

Defending your people from an invading enemy, while being two thousand kilometers from your own borders is a hard sell for me.

[@peterlustig6888]

Preemptive attack

[@wulfsorenson8859]

@@peterlustig6888exactly the dummy clearly knows nothing about war or the fact the Soviet Union had liquidated 10m Ukrainians in 1932, invaded Poland in 1939, the Baltic States and Finland in 1940 and then sent Molotov to make demands on parts of Romania, threatening to cut off the oil supply there and then launch a preemptive strike on Germany and the rest of Europe.

[@feetsniffer1488]

The Soviet Union was preparing to invade Europe with the biggest build up of an army in history.

[@MarcusGrahn]

not for the americans

[@raptorhacker599]

@@MarcusGrahn oops! rules for thee but not for me!

[@TheAlphaDingo]

Kind of reminds me of the saying 'war doesn't determine who is right, only who is left' (alive).All sides used propaganda and it's entirely possible these German soldiers were fighting in their various units, theatres and experiences and never saw any war crimes. It's also possible they were brainwashed or did see such atrocities. Remember, the war involved literally millions of people from all over the world and each person who participated, lived and even died had their own individual story. It's important to study history so the same mistakes are not made again but in saying that, you also need to use caution when applying perspective to how you view history especially with those who lived, breathed and experienced it firsthand.

[@speartongamer6080]

Britian killed around 10 million indians during world war 2. France killed around 3 million Algerians and 2 Million Moroccans. But they dont teach this in schools. They brainwashed everyone thinking only germany committed genocides.

[@embalmertrick1420]

@@speartongamer6080 first, the number is debatable, second that conflict was for a period of more than 10 years... every single country has committed atrocities towards others

[@urban4493]

@@embalmertrick1420 not my country

[@MsArjun1111]

@@embalmertrick1420 10 million is quite a conservative number tbh.

[@speartongamer6080]

@@embalmertrick1420 ok, but why were he atrocities of France and Britian never taught in schools?

[@doverh3]

In a way, I felt sorry for her. After being told by a German WW2 veteran, "War has its own laws". He walk away but turned around and gently patted her on the back.

[@M4lenia]

I feel bad for her too Nazis were too brutal I understand revenge for a partisan attack but out of 700 only 49 returned!?

[@ashdown4441]

@@M4lenia I mean the soviets committed even more atrocities

[@juanjoniebles452]

@@ashdown4441 Even if that were true, it does not in any way excuse German atrocities.

[@Charlesputnam-bn9zy]

@@M4lenia The Stasi repaid in kind the children of the nazis who stayed behind the red blood iron curtain.

[@Charlesputnam-bn9zy]

@@ashdown4441 & even after the war by their stasi thugs.

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

Don't got any German relatives, but my great uncle is a Ukrainian volunteered for them when they were invaded. Bolsheviks killed most of his family in the interwar period and hatred for them and a lust for revenge is really all that was driving him at that point in his life, so he joined the German invasion, and never had any regrets for it.

[@SilencedReflex]

How did he survive after the war?

[@alisp.4384]

Yeah, many Ukraines received the Germans as liberators and stuff but as soon as they realized what Nazis really wanted to do there (mass executions of civilians, whole cities burned to the ground, mass starvations , mass rapes) they joined the Partisans and the Red Army en masse. Yeah, a psychopath like Stalin was actually better than Nazi rule. You know Nazis had plans to exterminate 50% of Ukrainian population, don’t you? If you really think Ukraine would be better under Nazi rule, you are dreaming. As for your grandfather (collaboration with people who wanted to exterminate his own) the Nazis considered the their local collaborators inferior. Heydrich even had this written. The Slavs closer to Aryans were those fighting and resisting against the Germans. Collaborators were considered the lowest scum from the scum. Maybe your grandfather wasn’t like this, but collaborators took part in the mass murder of civilians, including very young children.

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

@@alisp.4384 Well, you must keep in mind people then and there didn't have 75 years of information to look back through as it was unfolding, and most of what we know of what occurred in (what would become) the Eastern Bloc nations/SSRs is based off Soviet records as the West was not allowed to investigate. With that in mind, I'll tell you what I was told. My great uncle lived is a smaller village in the Rivne Oblast, the Germans would eventually reach it, after reaching it he witnessed no rape, the town wasn't razed, and none of the civilians were killed. Resources, however, were seized. At the time there were no actual Soviet military in the town so the Germans sort of just walked in (for lack of a better term). I think it's safe to assume, whatever a Nazi party member was plotting back in Berlin, the Wehrmacht that entered the town was completely unaware of, so to my great uncle there appeared to be no ill intent. The Germans lifted the restrictions on religion the Soviets imposed, and it was not long after he volunteered since the Germans were taking them. He was aware the Germans were not saints by any means, but he maintained a "better them than the reds" attitude. He never personally witnessed any of the atrocities often cited with the exception of Soviet POWs being executed (which didn't bother him), most of his time was either laboring or fighting the Red Army. He never had any dealings with the SS (or any that he spoke of anyway) though. So, stop and think for one moment. A brutal regime kills most of your family and starves your people, then another brutal regime comes, but doesn't seem _as_ brutal (there was no internet, or phone, or TV, or w/e people today take for granted to know what happened in Poland), and the soldiers have not personally mistreated you or your neighbors. So who do you side with? The regime that killed your family and starved your people? Or the regime that is killing them? I can only assume it was a no brainer. You are not going to gaslight me in to thinking my great uncle was a bad man because he sided with "muh nahtzees!". War isn't black and white.

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

@@SilencedReflex I know he remained in Ukraine for most of his life, I always assumed he kept the fact he defected a secret, as he would have been imprisoned at least, but most likely executed, had the state known. He's been dead for about two decades now so I can't ask for details.

[@alisp.4384]

@@DrewPicklesTheDark First of all, that is not what “gaslight” mean. Look up what it really is. Second, don’t be so naive. Your great-uncle was a collaborator. What the Nazis (and this includes Wehrmacht) did in Eastern Front was brutal. What I told you wasn’t taken from Soviet books, but from Western books and papers peer reviewed and published with first hand witnesses accounts and revised numbers. It took decades for the US to take a look at the Eastern Front, since many the crimes were committed not by SS, but Wehrmacht and the politics at the time was the “Clean Wehrmacht” myth. The Nazi plans for Ukraine (at least 50% of the population murdered by mass starvation) was taken from German records . The Nazi hated the Slavs and considered them sub-human, not much better than the Jews. But you’re right. At first the German just walked into villages, taking some of the food , chatting with the locals, being received as liberators. At first. Ukraine was one of the countries who suffered one of the greatest civilian losses, massacres, atrocities, (together with Poland, Belarus and Russian). Do you really think your great-uncle would admit any of of this, to his own family, including his young nephew the atrocities that happened during the war? I find it very hard to believed he didn’t even heard what was happening. I just told you collaborators took part in many of these atrocities. I’m not saying your uncle did those things, but he certainly wouldn’t say to his own family all that he witnessed. Soldiers rarely talk to their family the things they witnessed, much less did, during the war. I’ve watched an interview with a German Wehrmacht soldier who told the interviewer he took forty year to admit to his family what he had witnessed in the Eastern Front. He didn’t even told the interviewer what he did witnessed, but his lips were trembling , he was stuttering and almost crying just remembering it. I’m not saying your uncle was a bad man, maybe he was in denial. War do terrible things to people. But there no heroes here.

[@LibertyAndUnion]

Patton said: "We fought the wrong enemy". Not long after that he was assassinated... I think we were duped.

[@plavsk]

so you are saying that germany was the good guy and should have won?

[@LibertyAndUnion]

@@plavsk If you even bothered to read Patton's memoirs... He stated that the regular (not SS) German army was composed of fine men who were being misled by great evil. Really, I think at the end they knew it too. What the allies did in my opinion was wake the common German soldier up to the reality of the situation, but the threat of evil still existed (to this day) through communism. Patton viewed this no different than the Nazis, and so it had to be defeated.

[@plavsk]

@@LibertyAndUnion well that is not true. it is a fact among historians that the wehrmacht was by no means clean and comitted warcrimes.

[@belstar1128]

@@plavsk i don't know what libertyandunion meant but Patton just thought the ussr was stronger and more dangerous and worried about a potential ww3

[@brucegauld5141]

History is the most important subject ever.

[@mashedpotato4465]

wym by that

[@joeylonglegs4309]

@John S. False.

[@blacktoothfox677]

Bless you for that... restored my faith in the internet/humanity just a tiny little bit

[@chevyjohnson7457]

Genius

[@fullthrill7314]

@@mashedpotato4465 what you mean by wym

[@ArgaAnders]

"War has its own laws" True now and even more so 80 years ago!

[@alexandersmith4237]

yea......so dont start them like hitler did

[@rosesprog1722]

@@alexandersmith4237 Hitler had some private business to settle with Poland, he didn't start any war, it is France and Britain who declared war on Germany, why? To defend Poland. Did they defend Poland? Of course not, they never had any intention to defend anyone, they just Used Poland to get their war, if they had minded their own business there wouldn't have been a world war and millions of lives would have been saved.

[@blacktoothfox677]

"In time of war, law falls silent" - Cicero (way pithier in Latin)

[@rosesprog1722]

@@blacktoothfox677 Cicero had no laws probably even in peace time but we have the Hague, the Red Cross and Geneva but on top of that we have dignity, respect and honor! Correction, "we have" should be replaced by "we had", those who fight wars according to the principles of human dignity and international conventions always lose, viciousness, cheating and a total lack of respect for human life are now the principles that win wars, there"s no other way.

[@enri447]

@@rosesprog1722 how do people like you exist

[@blakejohnson2206]

"War has its own laws"... Very convenient to ignore when justifying your own country's behavior. Even more convenient to use when trying to criticize the Russians and justify your own "necessary" invasions.

[@Jaman6]

They raped women German didn’t sure some may have but there were laws on that. Bolshevism didn’t give a fuck about right and wrong. Russian Bolshevists invaded Germany and pillaged men and woman in villages in thousands. Germany never was first to invade and offered multiple peace offering to England at the same time as well. The only issue they had was that bolshevism is a dirty evil movement for years

[@lukeskywalker6985]

The purest hypocrisy!

[@blakejohnson2206]

@@lukeskywalker6985 The human mind does amazing things to avoid admitting it can be a monster.

[@Vskayp974]

🤡

[@pacv3gamer457]

The germans had probably the best conduct of warfare in the entire war. tf you talking abt?

[@BenRobson-y4f]

My great grandfather was in the Wehrmacht and in the invasion of France and was eventually sent to the eastern front to fight against the Russians, he was killed in combat by a Russian hand grenade. One of his buddies told my grandma and my great grandmother about his death years after the war

[@jackstrawfromwichita6168]

RIP bozo

[@GREAZYZULU232]

@@jackstrawfromwichita6168 nah ur the bozo

[@Donfryesmustache]

​@@jackstrawfromwichita6168Commemorate the fallen.

[@jackstrawfromwichita6168]

@@Donfryesmustache I'm not going to commemorate those who fought on behalf of genocidal murderers.

[@GREAZYZULU232]

@@jackstrawfromwichita6168 they only fought for their country, not for nazis. take rommel for example, not all soldiers were nazis who murdered jews, gays etc.

[@WeldonHenson]

Being a German solider back then sure put you in a precarious position

[@BlackAhder]

and see how we forget that today..

[@DasGeneral12]

No it didn't; it was a very clear choice. You either participated in the war crimes, or you didn't. Obviously these men could care less how many civilians they murdered on their way into and out of the Soviet Union.

[@marcuspoosz2190]

@@DasGeneral12 if they decided they wouldnt want to, they would be executed for treason. simple as that. Kill or be killed.

[@nathanielcowan3971]

Imagine being a Jewish heritage German soldier. Someone who trained and believed in the glory of Germany and the expression of her values after proving your metal as a boy in the Great War. Must've sucked balls

[@DasGeneral12]

@@marcuspoosz2190 Yeah that's not an excuse at all. Getting a transfer to the police battalions and Einsatzgruppen was voluntary, and executing civilians isn't war. It's a war crime. We tried, convicted, and executed the officers that ordered it.

[@EngPheniks]

"We fought the wrong enemy" - George S. Patton

[@Julianbrowne-s4z]

no the real enemy in Europe is the .................. 6 days later hes dead ?? go figure

[@mu0FFpu0FF]

Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious

[@Cotac_Rastic]

Patton was a overhyped media hound who slapped traumatized soldiers who didnt want to give him another medal.

[@Cotac_Rastic]

​@@NobleBoss Patton just had a shit driver in his dinky lil jeep

[@dalehorstman6215]

@@Cotac_Rastic He didn't get the best of medical care afterwards, either, if the rumors are true.

[@AradSP]

As much as I respect them, it's pretty stupid saying "Geneva convention, Strafbattalion, etc." and two minutes later "war has no laws". Better to say "the Dutch were allied with the British so they'd invaded from there" or some logical argument rather than contradict themselves

[@gottmituns1938]

I think you misread the translation. He said, "War has its own laws". Was it against the law to invade a country without a declaration of war back then?

[@criztu]

they are neurotics. it's when the child is traumatized to be perfect, can't deal with being wrong, mistaken, fooled, deceived. this results in compulsive lying and contradicting actions and speech. they're quite simply functionally insane.

[@GespenstDesKommunismus]

I don't respect them or you because it's all bullshit. Not only did Germany start the war, the Netherlands and Belgium also weren't allied with France and Britain. Belgium had even denied French requests at fortifying against Germany pointing at their neutrality. Invading a neutral country was simply a tool towards finishing off the aggressive war.

[@datchisan25]

1. Yes, in order to invade a country “legally” you’d wanna declare war. 2. The Dutch were not allied to the British in either World War, they were neutral until the invasion in 1940

[@AradSP]

@@gottmituns1938 Well, yeah, that's why there's such a thing of "declaration of war" to begin with. Theoretically it must go through a certain diplomatic procedure.

[@ricklorion]

The Catholic nuns would run when they heard that the Russians coming.

[@case3270]

Because they scream "WAR CRIMESSS" when they walk into a village

[@greathornedowl1783]

German soldiers were infinitely more cruel and sex crazed.

[@alicesmith2306]

@@greathornedowl1783 GIs r *ped and killed their French allies while the US Army Generals turned a blind eye. Interesting article.

[@greathornedowl1783]

@@alicesmith2306 I'm sure they did but its nothing in comparison to the atrocities of the third Reich. There's nothing to compare here.

[@T_Dun]

Every woman would. In the Bolshevik invasion of East Prussia, every woman between eight years old and eighty years old was repeatedly gang raped when found; and then killed. This is why there are no Germans in East Prussia and Pomerania anymore.

[@rvdvogt]

How right the man is these days. And the Dutch girl asks .... questions. I'm Dutch btw

[@WilhelmEley-s3y]

You know I don't say I'm proud that my country invaded the Netherlands. The thing that annoys me isn't so much that people complaina bout what Germany did, but that they apply a doublestandard. Nobody even talks about how the british invaded neutral Iceland, if they do it, it is ok somehow... I get that during the war propaganda is a of military value, but after the war we should have started teaching things truthfully at least.

[@michaelw6277]

“Krupp Steel, German quality” Panther transmission go unnnnngggghhh

[@user-fg8ux8zo6w]

Hehehe

[@xeon39688]

yet a panther was able to take out 5 shermans or more

[@michaelw6277]

@@xeon39688 yes, the Panther was so much better that it literally lost the war. Superiority by way of humiliating defeat.

[@poi1612]

@@michaelw6277 it was not a bad tank tho

[@michaelw6277]

@@poi1612 if you discount the fact that it was unreliable, difficult to maintain, and excessively expensive sure…. it was a fine tank destroyer. But as a tank, a tool for breakthroughs and flanking maneuvers it’s record was miserable and embarrassing. In a vacuum it’s a good weapon, in a real war with real people, real shooting, and real logistics it proved to be absolutely awful.

[@littleferrhis]

Honestly war is a huge thing with thousands of people in thousands of places, one veterans account is really just a tiny portion of the bigger war, especially in WW2 where battles were so spread out. Did these guys kill Russian civilians, my guess is no. I just think they weren’t in the places and around with people where this kind of thing happened, or they just never saw it happen, which can be totally expected in such a large war. More than anything I really feel bad for these guys, I just don’t think they have the capacity to believe that the country(Hitler’s Germany) that they sacrificed blood sweat and tears and more importantly the guys they fought next to had the capacity to be extraordinarily evil. It’s a hard thing to turn on your friends your country, especially when your experiences don’t match with the crimes that happened in other areas. Really I think these guys are in denial, they know it happened, they just don’t want to believe it because it would ruin their experience of the war.

[@accountname9506]

Yup. Though warcrimes in eastern europe were very common so they had to have seen a few things.

[@edie9158]

Mhm, one man’s experiences can lean into what the war was like but cannot account for all of it. Many, millions, from West to East joined the Germans and the Nazis to fight against Bolshevism and I’m sure that’s what was pushed harshly, since what a lot of what they saw was the oppression of the Soviets as they came and grew their power. Each side had their fair share of freedom fighters, horrid criminals, crazed sadists, valiant warriors, and honorable men and women. No matter where you looked it came down to the quality of those that lead, and how they felt about what they did and were doing, including the men who followed.

[@bman6065]

If they killed civilians they probably called them partisans. Which they did hint at. Fun fact is that behavior isn't uncommon in warfare for that reason. But when a major part of the cause is ethnic cleansing. Then one can expect much more draconian expressions of war.

[@knottsscary]

If they fought in russia it was almost a guarantee you saw war crimes.

[@andrzej6736]

@@edie9158 No, your symmetrism is just whitewashing and a cheap one. Only small percentage of eastern europeans helped Germany with war agains USSR and they were far-right even before the war. German country was an invader and "bad guy" from first minutes of war, just educate yourself and check what have they done to captured soldiers and civilians during '39 campaign or after Barbarossa. If fact, Nazis created great genocide machine which was supported by almost all Germans. The myth that only SS soldiers were fanatic ones and Wehrmacht was only "regular, non-brutal men forced to coscript and fight for their country" is only a myth. Just read and learn, it doesn't hurt...

[@kj_heichou]

I have relatives on both sides, my grandfather was a resistance fighter. While 3 of my great grand uncles were drafted into the Wehrmacht due to being born in Germany. None of them made it home. My great-grandmother had to seek shelter in the basement of their farm when the Germans were relocating people due to the fighting going on in the area. They hid there for weeks, and when they were found by allied soldiers they were surprised that there were any civilians even left in the area at all.

[@CalogeroZarbo]

To be fair, if I'm not mistaken, no Russian soldiers was attacking Germany, it was Germany that started to mess with Russia.

[@Leboobs22]

Then russia met the U.S in Berlin and the U.S took russia's spoils of war

[@Carl_ATHF]

Russia at the time was zionist owned, they monitored closely that the poles were murdering ethnic Germans before the war and the Russians did nothing.

[@Greeneggs-pi9ih]

what a wealth of knowledge.

[@MrCountrycuz]

Operation Barbarossa was the name of the invasion of Russia by Germany.

[@Jduekengn]

Adolf had many crazy opinions and thoughts... There's also evidence to suggest that he started the war with poland and ussr to get the farmland due to his "Shrinking markets" theory. Industrialized nation sells tools to agrarians, agrarians become industrialized, nobody makes food anymore. Thus he wanted to take the rich soil of the east and all that Lebensraum crap. TIKHistory has videos on this and he shows the sources for his statements along the way

[@jaminova_1969]

The interesting thing was, in spite of their different opinions, it was a civil exchange of words! One can't even have a conversation now in a nation where "Free Speech" is a guaranteed right.

[@temsedgwick9494]

And, yet, here we are, having a conversation. Nothing prevents one from having a conversation in the USA. One simply can’t assume someone might not get angry in that convo…

[@bubblegumfacebabe]

@@temsedgwick9494 i literally cannot have a civil conversation with people nowadays, they go manic and sometimes physical (like how right-wingers are abused in both north America and Europe), I know there are people who're able to comprehend points and able to conversate in a civilised way, but they're quite difficult to find and almost instinct

[@temsedgwick9494]

When you say “right wingers”, are you referring to say, a typical GOP voter (in USA), or are you referring to European and/or American neo-nazis? If it’s the latter, then, yeah, fuck the nazis…

[@bubblegumfacebabe]

@@temsedgwick9494 a typical GOP voter, i've seen 10s of people wearing MAGA hats getting harrassed and had their hats stolen, and even one was killed during the BLM riots for supporting trump, I don't care what your ideology is, just don't turn it physical/violent or force it upon someone, you could be a nazi and I wouldn't care as long as you don't harm anyone (essentially keeping to yourself) because I believe everyone is free to follow whatever ideology or view they would like (again as long as they don't inflict harm upon anyone)

[@somefancycashews4418]

The American conception freedom of speech has been bastardized and distorted by the conservative party in order to manufacture rage and political discontent. The freedom of speech, and in fact every other 1st amendment right, is the freedom *from government interference* on speech. You want to call your boss's mother a whore? Well, good news, you legally can't be jailed or fined for it, but unfortunately there is no legal basis for preventing your boss from firing you for being an asshole. It's the freedom to speak, not the freedom from consequences. Grow up and realize that sounding and acting like an asshole means people will treat you like one. If you want to complain about 'snowflake liberals', don't cry when Mommy Government doesn't bail you out of your own deserved problems.

[@ihatecorporatedatacollecti6609]

“War has its own laws” Booooooooom Damn, old man can still lay down a burning! And the look on her face...priceless

[@passionofthecrust9173]

Wait . . . do you honestly not hear the hypocrisy of the guy just brushing off the invasion of her country after whining about the invasion of his own country?

[@user-mo7dd1vt1s]

@@passionofthecrust9173 dumb fuck , see the video again and at half speed . He said Bolsheviks were out to conquer whole Europe from Moscow to Portugal including this little land called Netherland. You think it matters when leaders there had no power and just some pawns of Judean Allied Army who love banks and destruction. Just search Hitler's peace requests . Am done.

[@prestonchambers8464]

@@passionofthecrust9173 he didn't whine he was actually there on the ground fighting. Respect homie.

[@bazmondo]

"War has its own laws" Boooooooooom. So I guess the old man has no problems with the Soviets raping and murdering their way through Germany or the destruction of Dresden. Cool mindset.

[@MicahNstuff]

@@bazmondo that's not wars laws, he literally mentioned how the soviets did not sign the Geneva convention, you fool. That doesn't forbid a standing army from invading countries, just war crimes such as the ones Russians were known for.

[@Wmaddox333]

My grandfather always use to tell me: "Hands out of pockets!".

[@scottlaux6934]

Hah mine too and "stand up straight" and ""look me in the eye". Cell phones would have made him mad.

[@j.dragon651]

One winter as a young lad I slipped on the ice with my hands in my pockets, my chin paid the price. Lesson learned and never forgotten.

[@dimitri1946]

The victors wrote the history books. On closer examination it turns out that the victors imposed genocidal retribution and called it "justice." Everybody was a loser except The State of Israel.

[@satyagrahaa]

How was Germany a loser?

[@baronzemo420]

​@commandergree68 You're asking how the country that lost the war is considered a loser? They lost, hence they're a loser. Understand?

[@satyagrahaa]

@@baronzemo420 in the war directly, yes. But think of it more long term. Germany today is wealthy and prosperous, and I’d argue that it’s faaaar better off now than it would be had we won the war

[@PerfectedInDeath]

@@satyagrahaahahahaa what a ridiculous statement, Germany was split into two and systematically destroyed and it’s native population has been infiltrated by millions and millions of islamists and third world immigrants. Germany is totally lost

[@Bunkerknacker_Retro-Nostalgie]

@@satyagrahaa damn, you are retarded beyond measures.

[@39doddle]

"Only the dead have seen the last of war" Very appropriate quote!

[@jakel6473]

that ladys face when he said "war has its own laws"

[@tobiaseatondix9665]

@Truth Seeker what does the 2039 stand for? im already subscribed to that channel too.

[@j.b.8800]

Probably because he went 2 inches from her face with his shit Nazi breath

[@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears]

Non-Verbal Communication will out.

[@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears]

@@j.b.8800 Onions of Fear.

[@blzebub2]

She's thinking "what a cunt".

[@mateoclaure6237]

I love how she just stays there like “wtf” at the end

[@xdas11]

@Hanz Franz says the indoctrinated sheep See? I can use bias too 🙃

[@Zebra-de8od]

@Chet Muggins gotta love how people always shout "EDGY" whenever someone says anything good about the germans, just to make those opinions seem illegitimate. please go away, thanks.

[@WHYJ35]

@Hanz Franz ok nazi relax

[@thewanderingstruggler8601]

@Hanz Franz it’s ok, comrade we will win in the end for the Lord is on our side and smiles brightly upon us for the truth be with us, and in the end times we will be vindicated and our enemies will be smited in the name of Christ. Amen.

[@bert2522]

@@thewanderingstruggler8601 Wotan mit uns.

[@johnfartson4080]

Europa the last battle

[@Leo-pz5ge]

Terrible documentary.

[@solongos5500]

Jewish propaganda is terrible

[@JB-.-.]

My great grandfather served in the war, my father and I have served, and I’d love to sit and chat with these guys about their experiences. It’s like the “other side” that we seldom hear about

[@MarkEliasGrant]

Your great grandfather was part of an evil machinery. The Wehrmacht was complicit in ethnic cleansing not just the SS. It’s a documented fact. There aren’t always “two sides” to a debate.

[@caden3386]

I know these type of guys. Whenever German veterans came together, one or two "watchdogs" were sitting among them and intervened as soon as anyone criticized the Nazis. These guys justifying the war look, talk, and act like those watchdogs. There were many "normal" veterans around, not daring to say a word. 40 years after the war! For those who are interested in German war experiences I recommend a film made of private Super 8 footage about the early months of Barbarossa. It was forbidden to film, that's why the film is called "der verboten Film": kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4vYoZ-bq6-ir9k

[@snapgab]

You wouldn't learn anything, these guys are completely brainwashed and on top of that they're also just deliberately lying.

[@rza9524]

I mean it’s a very gruesome past why would anyone be proud / want to share stories about being a solider from that side

[@MarkEliasGrant]

@@rza9524 The people here extolling how cool and refreshing it is to "hear the other side" are Nazi sympathizers. That's why.

[@lordpolish2727]

Im sure these soldiers were just "defending europe from boleshevism"" when they annexed Czechoslovakia, signed a treaty with the SOVIETS TO DIVIDE EASTERN EUROPE and invaded Poland, was the destruction of warsaw really just them defending Germany?

[@miniblue4580]

Hey idiot.They signed the treaty? Really? Or is was the leaders that did it ?

[@lordpolish2727]

@@miniblue4580 ?

[@wiedzmin8204]

Brother, Hitler was merely taking back Germanic land. For Poland it Hitler said its Danzing or War and poland chose war. The soviets were going to already take out poland, so it was smart to divide the country like that. And the Czech industry would go a long way to supporting the war effort against the soviets.

[@lordpolish2727]

@@wiedzmin8204 Damn you weren't taught WW2 very well

[@wiedzmin8204]

@@lordpolish2727 I went to a private school in Gdansk in which its specialty is history 😐

[@MrDlt123]

All soldiers want to feel as if they and their friends had fought, bled and died for a good cause. Makes total sense that they would think this way.

[@IDONTGETTHEPOINT]

Exactly. For them, thinking they saved Western Europe from communism is what justified their war and their actions. However, when the woman told them about those men sent to a work camp, they first tried to blame it on another branch, and then added it was a reactionary action. And when the invasion of the Netherlands came up, they brushed it aside and walked away. They know right from wrong, but don't want to be associated with the wrong.

[@MrDlt123]

@@IDONTGETTHEPOINT I don't disagree with you, and even though most of the former soldiers won't admit they knew about the death camps, it's more likely that the majority of them knew to some degree, and probably saw it as some sort of 'necessary evil.' Hitler controlled the radio stations, and continually fed propaganda to the German population for over a decade. It's not hard to imagine that would have a profound affect on the psyche of impressionable young German men and women. No army in the history of civilization ever viewed themselves as the 'bad guys.'

[@lmarc3011]

@@IDONTGETTHEPOINT mmm yes, Poland, Czechoslovakia, the Netherlands and France, very famous Communist countries

[@blueshirtman8875]

"Makes total sense that they would think this way."........Only if a person is in denial.

[@davidmaclane589]

That's true....The average age of the 58,152 Allied soldiers killed in the Viet Nam War was 19....and what did they die for? It wasn't for king and country and the star spangled banner....they died defending themselves and their comrades from a mostly unseen enemy trying to kill them. In the big picture, they really didn't die to protect the South Vietnamese people from being swallowed up by the Communist dragon from the north, but to protect American financial interests in Viet Nam. I was personally told by a US Marine Gunnery Sergeant, that he was ordered to defend a rubber plantation from being over run by Communist forces, to the last man. It was successfully defended and he later learned that it belonged to Lyndon B. Johnson...the POTUS. When the powers that be decided to abandon South Viet Nam to the Viet Cong and the NVA, and just cut and run....they betrayed thousands, if not millions of people, by leaving them to the wolves. They also betrayed the 58,152 allied troops who gave their lives in Viet Nam, so that they died for each other...nothing more.

[@mikescarborough9196]

It takes a real piece of work to criticize Stalin's failure to sign the Geneva Convention when your own Waffen SS was rounding up Russian peasants who happened to be Jewish and executing them on site.

[@PaulAssmann]

Oh pls. The soviets had no honor at all. 1 germans fought against 12 russians at the time. While brits and americans bombed our factories and citizens, while sending weapons, vehicles and food to the soviets. And they almost lost. Pls, germans were the last real knights of europe, the soviets were just wild masses behaveing like bloodthirsty animals.

[@Dragon555-c3x]

Lol, Waffen SS and German army (Wehrmacht) were different organizations. And if you want to talk about Wehrmacht's war crimes, why don't you start to discuss about Allied war crimes?

[@alinfixo8846]

The first victim in any conflict is the truth👍

[@LyudmilaRGVK]

I was at a friends house in Germany in about 1978, when the subject of Hitler was brought up. There was a friend, of my friends parents there in the dining room. My friends parents were saying how Hitler was crazy. Their friend, a man in his 40's,got so mad, he stormed out of the House. My friends Mothers brother, who was in the German army, had died in the war.

[@christinep.]

When people "fanatically" believe in a leader, no amount of proof of their "crimes" will convince them. We have modern-day examples albeit less extreme.

[@arcturus4762]

@B. Mic You are incorrect, he wasn’t a dick, in fact, I doubt his micropenis could even be considered one. Why did you think he built so many uber cannons if it wasn’t to compensate for his nonexistent sausage and missing testicle?

[@aurorasdawn4681]

@@arcturus4762 I'd advise you to read the CIA report about Hitler - until his last months his health was in perfect condition. Everything else is propaganda.

[@arcturus4762]

@@aurorasdawn4681 Damn bro. Didn't know the CIA had been meddling with Hitler's balls. Seems kinda gay to me

[@TonioD49]

@@christinep. Your comment has no relevance to the situation.

[@craiggraham5847]

1:01 - 1:25 Never truer words have been spoken

[@plavsk]

not true, the germans fought for the eradication and subjugation of the eastern peoples, it is mentioned and explained in mein kampf by hitler

[@urynos]

Dear veterans , you remember that these bloodthirsty Soviets were your allies at the beginning of the war? Do you remember what you did in Poland?

[@omega0195]

What they did to Poland was, punishing them. Punishing them for slaughtering innocent German men, women and children, simply for being ethnic Germans. The German military went in there to stop the massacre and save the Germans and liberate them

[@semiramisubw4864]

It NEVER was an real alliance. It just were a mouthpact to not atack each other.

[@thespamdance311]

@@omega0195 Okay, now explain why they invaded Austria, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Yugoslavia, Greece, the USSR, Italy and Hungary?

[@tauriskerwwsdiiv5276]

@@thespamdance311 You really don't know? France declared war on Germany. Austria wasn't invaded, Italy and Hungary were allies, the neutral Norway was about to be invaded by Britain which would have cut off iron ore supplies, the German parts of Czechoslovakia came to Germany, Poland annexed a part of Czechoslovakia, Slovakia became an ally and the Czech part a protectorate, Greece was a consequence of Mussolinis actions. Now explain why the Soviet Union annexed the Baltic States, attacked Finland, took half of Poland, murdered millions of its own citizens and was supported by the US......

[@tauriskerwwsdiiv5276]

@@thespamdance311 Why were all peace offers rejected etc.? It starts with WWI, the illegal hunger blockade, the broken promises made by Woodrow Wilson, the threat of communism (and the support it got from Wall Street). There is a book called "The Unnecessary War" if you are interested. All the slaughter could have been avoided if the leaders of the victorious countries had been honest and just. They talked about self government of peoples, but denied it to Germans and Hungarians. All of the wars of the US (the UK etc.) in the last decades were justified by lies and deceit and millions suffered and died. I am sure that was not the case a few decades earlier and the leaders of the US, the UK etc. were all guided only by the highest moral principles. 😉

[@aneubeck4053]

He says the Germans were defending from the Russians. Germany invaded Russia not the other way around that makes no sense.

[@cousinzeke4888]

If you know someone is going to attack you, hitting them first is definitely one way to stop them.

[@anthonyzapata9801]

the russians were going to invade either way the germans did it first to get the upper hand

[@aneubeck4053]

@@anthonyzapata9801 that makes no sense nobody has ever had the upper hand invading Russia.

[@76456]

@@cousinzeke4888 they would only do that if Germany had to wage a long war whit France and UK. because in that case it would be easier. but it wasn't in stalins plan

[@3112-x9r]

@@aneubeck4053 I think the Mongols did have the upper hand, initially. Or is that too far back in the annals of history?

[@rickjames9477]

one thing this is, a unique perspective from several people that only knows what they saw.

[@HerbEVore-ti6hs]

fact

[@danhall4834]

Watch again the veteran in the middle. He doesn't agree

[@rickjames9477]

Dan Hall history is written by the victors , although i’ve seen no reason to believe anything but the nazis and Russians had zero regard for human life or human well being. I sometimes wonder how the allies didn’t just kill all those sick twisted fucks that helped kill millions of people in camps and experiment of kids and women.but I guess they probably had seen enough death by that point, whatever it took to make peace had to be done.

[@safwansalehjee7961]

Germans had their propaganda and so did various allies nations. What you know, is what your country's propaganda told you

[@ReallyUnexplainable]

@@safwansalehjee7961 That's kind of bullshit. What we know, is what our grandparents told us. I fucking hate the "history is written by the winner." It's bullshit. More than enough proof has been collected, and more than enough people have witnessed it with their own eyes for it to be a "fabrication" or "propaganda"

[@dh2667932]

Wiemar is enough excuse. And now Wiemar 2.0 is going on in the US

[@kennetheo]

Hey guys found the documentary here: www.bitchute.com/video/I7sG86aH5TZ4/ You’re welcome!

[@dorkmax7073]

Stay mad, traitor

[@sparticusnumbicus90]

Definitely, and it is being created by political dialogue by leftist professors, politicians, and institutions. They are creating their own worst enemy.

[@dorkmax7073]

@@sparticusnumbicus90 This dude just straight up echoing Nazi propaganda

[@Biestle]

@@dorkmax7073 You mean like you're echoing the propaganda of war criminals and self-declared eternal victims?

[@blackeyedpeasfreak44]

The title is misleading ... they don't justify the WW2 in its completeness, they just shared as veterans their insider information since they actually served in the Wehrmacht, thus they just provided the insight that the histroy of war is indeed always told through the lens of the winner side ... I thing even those men would not argue about the inhumane disasters happened during WW2 but that doesn't mean that everything what happened by the hands of the Germans were warcrimes ... they are correct and most vets confirmed that the soviets indeed commited also a lot of warcrimes especially towards german women ... but this ofc nobody wants to hear since it would fit in the wester narrative been told about the evil germany in WW2 ... stay safe everyone, love and peace from Germany!

[@antoniom7051]

Restoring comment: 1.2 -1.5 million Soviets joined Germany to fight against communist Soviet Union.

[@UNIT-eh6pl]

@@idecanymoretbh pay no attention to hasbarah here👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

[@UNIT-eh6pl]

Tel e gram chan el The Forgotten Slavic Volunteers WW2

[@daviniamaria6534]

@@idecanymoretbh h a s b a r a trolls spread misinformation.

[@hnys7976]

@@idecanymoretbh It's not lies but they would have been killed if they didn't. Besides 10 million soviets were joined the war against the nazis.

[@didih3339]

Because Nazis were starving 330w POW to death in camp. more than 250w in one year. They joined Nazi army for a living

[@johnchen2000]

Germany to Europe: "we invaded you for your own good." Japan: "hey that's my line!"

[@Snacks256]

Greater East EUROPE Co-Prosperity Sphere

[@alicesmith2306]

95

[@alicesmith2306]

Of rüssiaan

[@alicesmith2306]

Hey Amit! Its paßt your bedtime!🤣🤣🤣

[@truthseeker2913]

Telegr@m ch@nnel zhctiwsuA hturT

[@albertspaher4194]

I give this crazy piece of a shit state of the current world about 10 years and this will happen again. Ironically the people who suffered the most from this war are also the people who constantly line up the world for conflict.

[@Fugazinome]

Patton:I pissed into the wrong river.

[@marcus2249]

deep bro

[@marcus2249]

@Newbuild Muse I think you got the wrong comment

[@nicolascv98]

@Newbuild Muse Can you show the poll you are talking about?

[@Cubanb3]

Them dudes are harder than a coffin nail....

[@jakemocci3953]

Brave, proud men. Europe could use men like that now, but all we can do is do our best to live in their image, and carry on their ideals.

[@Cubanb3]

@@jakemocci3953 100%

[@riccardovalentini7294]

@@jakemocci3953 please do not carry on their ideals.

[@jakemocci3953]

Riccardo Valentini Do you see what is going on in the United States today? We will need the spirit of the German soldier for what’s to come, the Marxists want to do to us what they did to the Rus.

[@Cubanb3]

@@riccardovalentini7294 what “bad” ideals are you talking about specifically?

[@imahvi]

Very important to watch and listen to regardless of how it makes you feel.

[@cinemaparadiso5402]

It's ANTI-SEMITIC to research anything outside pre-approved school textbooks or mainstream media. EVEN IF OTHER SOURCES ARE ACCURATE.

[@truthseeker2913]

Telegr@m ch@nnel zhctiwsuA hturT.

[@alicerodriguez926]

Antidefamation Fatigue Telegr@m ch@nnel 😄😀

[@twelveyearsnotaslave7868]

@@cinemaparadiso5402 They call you anti-semitic because they can not call you a liar.

[@whowasgengrikhyagodalookit4965]

@@cinemaparadiso5402 Truth does not fear investigación. Lies fear being exposed.

[@deeperthantheabyss624]

The other old guys were like: *Yo dude you sound like you'd invade Russia all by yourself if you had a gun*

[@pietropinter8387]

He would

[@Adam-dp9kl]

Now only if men today had balls like that. Our world is being subverted right before our eyes. And everyone seems to be okay with it.

[@Maus5000]

@@Adam-dp9kl You're living in a delusion of victimhood.

[@charlesserre6928]

@@Adam-dp9kl You, sir, are sadly correct.

[@eeyorehaferbock7870]

@@Adam-dp9klif more men today had balls like that, the whole world would be obliterated in nuclear fire.

[@lorenzell3104]

These old guys seem to forget that the German army started the war, in Austria, in Poland, operation Barbarosa, etc.

[@patriotsquill]

It's clear they swallowed Hitler and Goebbels' propaganda hook line and sinker and never saw the folly of their ways.

[@nolandevine8722]

First off, the german army didn't start the war, Hitler did. Also most austrians were happy to unite with Germany

[@patriotsquill]

@Everyone access I know I'm doing something right when a scumbag Nazi apologist starts throwing insults at me.

[@patriotsquill]

@YOUNG PHARAOH Hitler's claim that he was invading Eastern European nations to protect ethnic Germans was a laughable ruse. Hitler was a genocidal maniac, plain an simple.

[@dianaverano7878]

They just went to Netherlands without permission and without even being sorry for it to this day. Broken moral compass

[@LosPonitex]

Old man, tell us why the Russians was so brutal when the showed up in Berlin.

[@GalacticRanger]

The only based comment in this comment section

[@darth-hellhound6534]

Spit facts.

[@GalacticRanger]

@10th division Frundsburg Good men apparently participate in the holocaust and massive war crimes against slavs. Good to know where you stand buddy.

[@Pixel5564]

War has its own laws

[@GalacticRanger]

@@Pixel5564 Massacring 6 million jews because of ethnicity is okay according to you?

[@saulofontoura]

This is a valuable source of information. Not necessarily on the facts of WW2, but on the perception German soldiers had on their own institutions. In order to get people fighting for a cause, they must first believe their cause is noble. Many atrocities were committed be people who deluded themselves into thinking they’re doing the right thing. Even today, there’s way too much violence in the name of justice.

[@tommygun5038]

That's why they say war is hell. It's brings out the worst in people. Kinda like divorce.

[@Michael_the_Drunkard]

No, that guy is not deluded. He clearly states that the deportation was prompted by a partisan attack. He even said, that it might have been an overreaction. But it was not without reason. Based on the missions, he was on, he is being factual.

[@sigurdfenrisson2446]

Stopping the Bolshevik invasion, and imminent destruction of an entire people, is delusion? Wow

[@hugowerkman6228]

@@sigurdfenrisson2446 You mean the Russian invasion of Germany after Germany attacked Russia? You mean the destruction of the Russian people by German hands? How delusional are you?

[@JcRabbit]

@@Michael_the_Drunkard Well, the Dutch partisans also had a reason to attack the German car, and much more justifiable, no? After all, the Germans had invaded their country, sorry, 'marched in' into their country unprovoked. :-P In the end, war is hell and many atrocities will be committed by all sides. It is never, and never will be, a 'civilized' thing where civilians are spared, etc Once it truly starts, everyone suffers: men, women and children.

[@mike8966]

Good old guys, last defenders of Europe and white guys.

[@zemowit]

“Ah, we should've asked for permission to declare war” Unequivocally based

[@bubiruski8067]

Who is “we“ ?

[@zemowit]

@@bubiruski8067 You can use your big boy brain and rewatch the video to understand this.

[@bubiruski8067]

@@zemowit Tiny brain, this was just to check the censor. The censor is on allert. Sorry for that !

[@bubiruski8067]

Besides, of course you need to ask. Otherwise your bigger brother needs to save your ass again !

[@abeedhal6519]

Ironically, the uk and france had already declared war and the netherlands was clearly aiding them in their planned offense against germany. So really they had already taken a side. Just like norway.

[@darijus4094]

"The soviets didint sign the geneva convention and they massacared our people" For germany the geneva covention was a geneva sugestion lmao

[@LostAkkadian]

More like a checklist lmao

[@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag]

Well rules are made to be broken.....

[@darijus4094]

@Tiberius I'mserious are you justifying war crimes ?

[@johnnycash2254]

I thought the Geneva convention excuse was almost comically hypocritical.

[@zaiz6018]

@Tiberius I'mserious The germans literally had concentration camps You know what that is right? Go read what happened in those camps and tell me the english were just as bad

[@alexbowman7582]

Those Krupp cannons will last around 500 shots before the barrel wears out.

[@Fanwithnblades]

What is that not normal or something?

[@Hellhound23691]

@@Fanwithnblades It's a short barrel life. Most American and British cannon had a barrel life of at least 1500 shells. That is including the large 155mm cannons down to the 37mm cannons on light tanks.

[@Fanwithnblades]

@@Hellhound23691 ok,makes more sense

[@charleshendrix232]

My Father has a Luger from North Africa. Never been fired, inly dropped once.

[@alexbowman7582]

@@Hellhound23691 the stupidly huge guns they used at the Crimea have a life of around 70 firings.

[@eaglewolf5]

Just imagine what these old guys were like when they were young .

[@Mj-th7md]

Bunch of snowflakes and dicks - that's what i imagine

[@manololagunesmontealegre3692]

Thats why they conquered europe. The power of the will. I belive, i fight

[@amitmichaeli9019]

@@manololagunesmontealegre3692 Actually, they did not conquer Europe. Hell, in 1945 they didn't even conquer Berlin. These scumbags are only alive because our grandfathers were merciful.

[@mr.r2362]

@@amitmichaeli9019 It's sad that our grandfathers fought Nazi Germany so Boomers, Gen Xers and millennials could sit on their comfortable behinds acting hard, instead of being grateful for our forefathers sacrifice. It's easy to be combative on the internet safely behind a screen. In real life battles with the Germans of that time, most of today's generation would crap their pants and scream for their mothers.

[@TubeLadin]

The guy with glasses would of been scarey af... imagine him storming in to your house

[@lawrencejones5640]

They were partisans, they weren't soldiers Seconds later: War has its own rules

[@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155]

What exactly to you think you are pointing out here?

[@lawrencejones5640]

@@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155 That kills people Karl

[@lawrencejones5640]

If you have to ask you're too stupid to get it or you're a nazi. I feel sympathy for the dumb.

[@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155]

​@@lawrencejones5640 Sry still don't understand what you think you are pointing out here? Partisans are people or something? And what has that to do with "war has it's own rules"? You are obviously very smart, i can already tell, no need for insults though.

[@lawrencejones5640]

@@ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155 the soldiers were complaining about their abuses of rights, saying no wermacht soldier wouldn't have done any of that. They were also dismissing partisans as well, dismissable to concentration camps on the grounds they weren't part of the war while simultaneously saying war has its own rules. The Geneva convention grants the right for a civilian to fight against an occupying force.

[@slobodanboban8717]

Wermaht killed 100 Serbians for every 1 killed on their side...

[@bobbyjones8091]

deserved, considering how serbs had their own genocides going on and still celebrating their war criminals.

[@janpajdak1236]

It's called deterance.

[@slobodanboban8717]

@@janpajdak1236 So,to you thats ok???

[@janpajdak1236]

@@slobodanboban8717 Serbians were fighting a partisan war not a regular war. Serbia fell in 1941. The partisans knew this would be the response, so they too were ok with it.

[@Nr31HungarianRegiment]

@@slobodanboban8717 its more than ok!

[@mpwmu9041]

There must be something in the water in Germany because they produce some of the best engineers the world has ever seen.

[@loganperry8637]

what a crock of shit. More likely that whatever’s in the water there makes them all reckon they’re the best.

[@martinhorvath4117]

@@loganperry8637 No, it's not. All of Europe has a saying: German Quality is the best Quality.

[@3112-x9r]

@@loganperry8637 Did you know that the Germans pioneered the space race? On June 20th of 1944, the V2 rocket MW-18014 surpassed the Karman Line. When the Americans took the first known pictures of outer space, they did so with captured V2 rockets. The subsequent American space program came to rely heavily on the continued work of German engineers (Braun, Debus, Rees, Rudolph, etc.).

[@dave_sic1365]

@Philip Eason mp3 file?!

[@martinhorvath4117]

@Philip Eason You realize that Robert J Oppenheimer father was a German who emigrated to the US, right? (the guy, who created the Atombomb)

[@kingeling]

“The victor writes History”

[@lacasadipavlov]

Historians write history

[@northernlights3045]

@@lacasadipavlov NO.The victors write history and then our opinions are silenced.Or they try to.We are growing more numerous each day.

[@lacasadipavlov]

@@northernlights3045 if you are growing, it means not only the victors write history

[@kingeling]

@@lacasadipavlov Do you even know what "victor" means? lmao

[@northernlights3045]

@L I do reply, but you must be Susan's favorite cousin because my reply gets deleted. Anyway, we are not going anywhere anytime soon.

[@tobyalder42]

We defended our country against bolshevism... we had to fight Americans in Italy, Africa and France

[@Loe_Jist]

But in reality, IF it was only about Bolshevism then they wouldn't have done everything else 🤦‍♂️ If they were ONLY trying to stop the spread of communism then they could've easily negotiated deals and alliances with France, UK, USA, and all of the rest of anti-communist Europe. But because it was never just about stopping the USSR and communism, they didn't. Their argument makes sense... until you consider EVERYTHING ELSE they did.

[@reasonablyserious]

Tbf, they didn't get to decide over any of that

[@tobyalder42]

@@reasonablyserious they don't seem to be sorry about that

[@Morrigi192]

@@tobyalder42 Why should they be sorry for fighting as commanded, and in a mostly civilized manner against Anglo-American forces? Our own ground troops were mostly civilized in return.

[@tobyalder42]

@@Morrigi192 Because they fought for Hitler and the Nazi regime, have you heard about that? Because their fight led to the occupation of their country? Bombing cities has nothing to do with "mostly civilized manner".

[@rayaguirre2084]

A tyrant will always find justification for his tyranny

[@mikepravica2140]

This was Hitler's mantra.

[@MrWolf-kd8yh]

Fascinating little video! Most of my relatives at the time was in combat in the East for the Wehrmacht during WW2. My Grandfather was in the 6th army 44th infantry division and saw action in Poland, France and Kharkov. He was later captured along with thousands of men at Stalingrad. Ultimately he lost 80 pounds of body weight moving around different Russian labour camps before finally returning home to Germany in the mid 1950s. His younger brother started off the war in the East as part of the 439th Regiment of the 134th Division and was at the battle of Moscow then later he was one of 9 survivors out of 1,000 men in his regiment to die in the battle of Kursk where he was injured. He survived the end of the war as part of the 512th heavy tank destroyer battalion as a loader for the Jagdtiger when he surrendered to the Americans in May 1945.

[@deathrabbit8710]

Brave men, who sacrificed so much to protect their people from the monstrous Soviets. You should be proud.

[@willmont8258]

@@deathrabbit8710 Both the Nazis and Soviets were monstrous.

[@jank.5164]

@@deathrabbit8710 THE GERMANS ATTACKED THEM FIRST, HOW CAN YOU BE SO FUCKING DUMB?

[@killgaet6253]

@@jank.5164 do you know that the soviets had a plan to invade western Europe? and Operation Barbarossa was just weeks before their plan would have started.

[@vitorgas1]

@@killgaet6253 the US has plants to invade europe, meanwhile the nazis ACTUALLY INVADED IT

[@Patrick-ih4oe]

Everything the German said was true .

[@andymalone7338]

Every criminal has a reason for their crime but most men who fight wars are neither Criminals or Monsters but flotsam in the flood.

[@MrAnimason]

Depends on the war.

[@loganperry8637]

False. You are perpetuating the German myth of clean Wehrmacht. Very cringe

[@andymalone7338]

@@loganperry8637Perry You're perpetuating a comfortable myth that all opponents are wicked and vile without any redeeming virtues. The Soviet System and the Red Army was a far more wicked regime and military force by every rational criteria but not all Russians were complicit in its crimes. Was the targeting and mass bombing of non-combatants done by the Allies a moral act?

[@andymalone7338]

@Philip EasonEason Ignorance is charming. The Soviet Union was allied with National Socialist Germany in 1940 invading Poland and the Baltic States until the attack of the National Socialists in Operation Barbarossa. The Red Army's conduct from 1918 on was one long history of mass murdered and pillage.

[@WilhelmEley-s3y]

@@loganperry8637 You are perpetuating the myth of the evil Wehrmacht. Very cringe. The Wehrmacht had 17.3 million soldiers, by todays standards 500,000 of them commited war crimes, but if you know that it was Stalin who refused to ratify the geneva conventions, that at the time if the other side doesn't ratify it, you were not obliged to uphold the geneva conventions, and that most of what we now consider war crimes by the Wehrmacht were perpetrated against the Soviets, this greatly changes the perspective. You know.. the winner writes history.

[@jamesrey4275]

All the comments telling the truth have been deleted.

[@florimond1816]

Then what is the truth?

[@ColinMcdonald-p3s]

The good guys lost ww2​@@florimond1816

[@ZackFrisbee]

I wonder who is deleting them...

[@asker0173]

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[@ColinMcdonald-p3s]

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