ANCIENT STONE CRAFT TECHNOLOGY: What Tools Did They Use?

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@WorldofAntiquity Жыл бұрын

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@Sublimation250F Жыл бұрын

Mostly great stuff. I'm still perplexed on the evidence for Easter Island statues being concrete as well as part of the pyramids. Also not believing that modern people didn't decide to make the speed of light the same number as the great pyramid coordinate. Similar as I said before about nautical miles distance of the unfinished obelisk to the pyramid being equal to one roman year. Time=distance. Also not sure why it's never mentioned that ancient people might have used iron from meteorites. I've shaped and polished granite using modern tools so I know it is extremely difficult to work with and improbable to complete a major project such as a granite vace within only a few years.

@aprioriaposteriori3676 Жыл бұрын

I'm an archeologist too and like you I find much of the BS on internet a bit annoying, specially how it seems to spread to people and putting archeology in bad taste. My focus field isn't ancient Egypt but like most people, specially in the field of history/archeology, I find it fascinating and have been reading a lot about it over the years. One thing though I'm a bit confused with is the speed of time the pyramids were built. The classic time scope for Khufu's pyramid is around 20 years I believe (?), and the wood in between the stones have a 200 year time scope in its dating (from 2800-2600 BC if I remember correctly). Now to the problem. If it was built in only 20 years it would mean they put a stone in place every 5 minute or so, day and night, for the whole construction period (20 years is 10,512,000 minutes and the pyramid is said to have about 2 300 000 large block of stones in it) . Carving them out, transporting them there and placing them, doing this for 20 years placing one stone in place every 5 minute around the clock to have it built in that time, that seems a bit impossible to me. I don't say the Egyptians didn't build them, and I don't say the great pyramid didn't belong to Khufu, and I don't say they are older or anything like that. I'm just saying the time scope we today believe they were built in seems impossible? I would be happy for a clarification here as I'm having a hard time to grasp this. Just imagine the scale of this project. Putting 288 stones that weight tons in the right place every day, having 288 stones ready from the quarry every day, and transporting the same, or else the chain breaks. The enormous cutting place, the train of stones for transporting running from it to the pyramid, the placing of the stones, they had to have a link of endless stones ready in an almost industrial scale, like an assembly line where each stone is ready at once to be placed, with only minutes apart. Am I crazy or does this seem like nothing that can be imagined? Thanks for a great channel. You are doing archeology a big favor!!

@lostboy8084 Жыл бұрын

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@WorldofAntiquity Жыл бұрын

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@TopazBadger6550 Жыл бұрын

Not aliens. Just advanced humans who lived before us. 1000ton trilithon stones moved 900miles from Aswan to Baalbek. We could not do that today. Please explain how dudes in loin cloths did it. I'll wait....

@AncientArchitects Жыл бұрын

Well done on the MOHs Scale explanation. Yes, it’s a scratch test and only for individual minerals/crystals. Nothing can scratch a diamond but you can certainly shatter one with enough force.

@mnomadvfx Жыл бұрын

"Nothing can scratch a diamond" Nothing natural in any case (other than another diamond). But there has been at least one other allotrope of carbon synthesized in the lab that is rated harder than diamond.

@garywheeler7039 Жыл бұрын

@@mnomadvfx Yeah, but you can effing crush it with an effing hammer! They are not forever!

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

Can you make a counter argument about this video cause I don't think the method describe in the "Techniques and Hand-Powered Machines" section will be able to maneuver and make a drill hole in the granite stone shrine describe in the 6 minute mark of this video below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWmTe5iYet2se7s

@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын

I can't see the detail inside the hole that you referenced. If there are striations, a bow drill could be used. If there are no striations, then a chisel could have made the hole.

@metamaggot Жыл бұрын

you can even burn diamonds under a flow of pure oxygen

@otherperson Жыл бұрын

The clips from that Hindu monastery were genuinely awe inspiring, the patience and mastery that those carvers displayed really struck me. Thanks for putting this together.

@jean-lucpicard581 8 ай бұрын

Imagine being an ancient Egyptian master artisan, giving the opportunity of his lifetime to create something for a literal God! They would have worked their asses off for that.

@ninadgadre3934 4 ай бұрын

You might love the Ajanta Ellora complexes, monumental temples carved out of single-rock basalt mountains. Ancient people were ridiculously ingenious!

@lucasroche8639 Ай бұрын

It's the same love that the ancients put into their work yet why is that so hard for the ancient aliens idiots to understand? I reckon they only half believe their nonsense.

@0Icelord0 Жыл бұрын

Even as a medical professional, I was drawn in by the likes of Graham Hancock...I am so relieved to have stumbled across this incredibly underrated channel, which is astoundingly well researched and wholly transparent. The only way this channel can be created whilst maintaining a day job (in the same field) is a deep-seated and enduring passion for the subject of ancient history. Truly inspiring❤

@SamBorgman Жыл бұрын

I've been listening to Art Bell show archive on Spotify. Graham Hancock and Richard Hoagland were two of Art's more regular guests. They were insane! lol makes it a fun listen while I walk. Later on Hoagland got himself ridiculed for claiming and faking a photo where he tried to prove the Hale Bop comet had a spaceship following behind. When the astronomers who took that photo came forward, Richard was in hot water. Even Art made it look like he was betrayed by Hoagland. Art had to distance himself from him to protect himself. But until then he agreed to every piece of BS Hoagland used to say on the show. He and Hancock were always supporting each other. But looks like, from how Joe Rogan was talking about Hoagland, they now see him as a nutjob but Hancock is still going with his BS. Back then he used to say he sees old glass buildings on the moon and other things on Mars, in photos and videos Nasa published. They were clearly selling a lot of books. All of them either had books or classes or seminars. That was the whole thing they were doing. The listeners were so gullible they were buying everything and spending a lot of money too. These people, their whole strategy is to first create distrust in the govt and well funded scientists, saying they are funded by people who don't want us to know the truth. That distrust then helps them convince the ignorant listeners of any BS they could make up. EDIT: I meant Courtney Brown, not Richard Hoagland. I got the two names mixed up. I think Art had always supported Hoagland's BS for as long as he hosted his show. It was Brown that got ridiculed and Art had to cut ties with him to protect himself. But Hoagland was one of Art's regular guests too.

@JustIn-mu3nl Жыл бұрын

@@SamBorgman Hancock has made a good living off it, and unchartedx is the same, I got intrigued with watching one episode but it didn't feel right, so I actually listened to their claims. I just think of them as scammers.

@SamBorgman Жыл бұрын

@@JustIn-mu3nl Sure, but there's a very interesting difference between Ben's generation of "scammers" and those who went before, before the internet age, when information couldn't be verified by people listening to them. Ben and his peers actually believe in that crap wholeheartedly themselves. They are scamming because they got scammed and they don't know it lol So to them it seems like they are trying to spread the truth while authorities are mysteriously hiding all kinds of info from us for no apparent reason. That distrust was spread by those people on Art Bell's show in the 90s. Art's show was the single most damaging populariser of conspiracy culture and distrust in authority. Today's real scam artists are goons like Alex Jones. These people even mention Art Bell as their biggest inspiration. THIS is why sometimes censorship is the only thing that can protect ignorant people from falling for it. But it has to happen before the damage is done. When too many people start falling, you get the US conservative party and their blind fans. These people in turn make the whole country suffer indefinitely.

@vespasian266 Жыл бұрын

@@JustIn-mu3nl Thats because they are scammers. and have researched psychological tricks to undermine authority figures. sort of grifting by numbers.

@jellyrollthunder3625 Жыл бұрын

@@SamBorgman Exactly. They poison the well straight out of the gate by convincing their audience that they were all victims of this big spooky academic conspiracy that is trying to silence "the truth" to preserve a "status quo narrative", etc., etc. So what happens is many in the alt. history community begin to resent ALL fact-checking of their dogma because they see it as by definition a part of this big academic conspiracy. It is clear as clear can be that this community resents anyone who even tries to help them by assisting them with some much needed context. They 100% would rather not ever have to find out if they were wrong about these articles of faith. If the answer to the question isn't this lost ice age civilization then they aren't interested in knowing about it, in fact, many will resent you just for mentioning it to them. They engage in the exact same sort of thing as creation scientists. There is no scenario where they will be convinced otherwise. They are only looking for ways to work backwards from their dogmatic conclusions.

@adybarker4733 Жыл бұрын

I think the examples shown here prove that on a material level the creation of the ancient objects was possible without any machine assistance. The precision of the ancient objects was most likely achieved due to the time taken on each item and the skill of the craftsmen, who had most probably spent their entire lives working stone with stone. Thanks for the great content. 🤙🏻

@moshecallen Жыл бұрын

In the strictly physical sense, they had simple machines-- hammers, wedges, etc., just not the modern power tools.

@TheRotnflesh Жыл бұрын

We all know copper tools can chip at stone, but it can not precision-cut it. Nor can it move 1,000 tons 500 miles (and nor can we, but they did.)

@GroberWeisenstein Жыл бұрын

@@TheRotnflesh what do you mean by "precision-cut " and "nor can we" ? precision is a final finishing method requiring the least amount of force in the entire process from block to completed product. we can lift over 3,000 tons today with crawler cranes. more with stationary cranes.

@Breakfast_of_Champions Жыл бұрын

In an era where they did not really count the years they had enough time to do careful work.

@Kholdaimon Жыл бұрын

@@TheRotnflesh Guess you didn't watch the vid, precision is shown to be achieved with flint tools... We can move 1000 tons and they didn't need to, the heaviest stones in the great pyramid were 25-80 tons, far from 1000 tons. Experimental archaeologists have shown how they did it, it just requires a lot of man-power and careful planning.

@johnmcnally7812 Жыл бұрын

You discussed the hardness of different materials at length, but you neglected to mention the hardest substance known to humanity -the skulls of people who believe in the ancient alien hypothesis. What an oversight!

@rockysexton8720 Жыл бұрын

That requires a a different system of measurement. I suggest the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Addition. DSM-5 works wonderfully for the non-ancient aliens LAHT as well.

@drbharatj Жыл бұрын

Dental enamal. Is. the. hardest part of our body. You. Will need diamond or tungsten carbide to. cut the. dental enamal with a continuous sprey of. water to cool down the drilling tool and drilling machine.

@drbharatj Жыл бұрын

Hardness is expressed as Brin le hardness no.

@histguy101 Жыл бұрын

@@drbharatj just don't chip your tooth on a jolly rancher.

@FunkiMonki69 Жыл бұрын

The hubris of you people to assume everybody who has an issue with those claims thinks aliens must be to blame for that work

@ttararin Жыл бұрын

Modern humanity tends to underestimate and stupidly downgrade the abilities, skills and resourcefulness of our ancestors. Great channel with truly disillusioning content.

@dr.zoidberg8666 Жыл бұрын

Yes, I remember the first time I thought seriously about this was after I read David Graeber & David Wengrow's book "The Dawn of Everything." It is not just ancient people, but even prehistoric people were just as intelligent & creative as we are today -- it's not as if we're a different species after all. Not only in terms of craftsmanship, but in terms of politics, art, & culture they were just as intellectually sophisticated as we are now; only they had different material conditions to contend with.

@kylewilliams8114 Жыл бұрын

We also underestimate the effectiveness of natural tools like flint chisels. While it took more sweat, they still could accomplish a lot with them.

@MaryAnnNytowl Жыл бұрын

Timofey, the word disillusion is generally a very negative one. I'd have suggested "...with truly enlightening content," personally. Just a suggestion. ❤❤

@TheRotnflesh Жыл бұрын

I think modern humanity tends to downgrade the abilities, skills, and resourcefulness of our ancient ancestors too. We have multiple meteor impacts being researched right now dating around 3100 B.C;, around the time before Sumer, Egypt, and Indus Valley appeared. They struck in the Indian Ocean, the Mediterranean, and Austria. This one is dated at 3123 BCE. These would have ended civilization from western Africa, to the Levant, to the Middle-East, to western India. This, by the way, correlates with Sumerian tablet K8538, dated at June 3123 (in cuneiform): An astronomer recorded the path of a celestial object, with star map, and calculations, and charted its path across the sky. Old archaeology is wrong; we are finding the truth now. Even 30 years ago, Gobekli Tepe didn't 'exist'. Our species was here before, with different technology. Wake up.

@nicolasjuandecardenas7921 Жыл бұрын

Same thing I say.

@MaryAnnNytowl Жыл бұрын

And this shows why this channel deserves a million subs: top notch content, presented clearly and concisely. I truly can't think of a channel that deserves it more than this one! 💯❣️ ❤️❤️

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@MrTeniguafez Жыл бұрын

As a hobbyist blacksmith and amateur ancient history aficionado, I love this collaboration between artisans and archaeologists and hope we see a lot more of it going forward!

@walterulasinksi7031 Жыл бұрын

One thing that stone masons are taught is that All stone has a grain, even diamonds . When one works with a grain,it is easier to chip/ carve. Granite , being metamorphic, (from volcanic eruptions), has a high content of feldspar.this has a mineral grain similar to diamond, so a competent stone quarrying mason can read the grain and act accordingly. Then there is the use of fire and water. Due to the grain, when fire is laid on a surface the heat permeates along the grains and when quenched by water, it causes the grain to split. Such action can be directed by cutting a groove along a line and heating accordingly. Finally there is sand. Something that is still in use for both wood and stone work. Sand having various quantities of silica creates the grits we still use. The courser the grit ( larger silica particles) the deeper it can cut. Sand is not just Silica. It can also contain carborundum and nano diamond particles these particles have acted on stone as they do today. The advance technology people also have not considered that the amount of time spent creating an artifact was irrelevant. There was NO stress to do it quickly, only to do it correctly snd even then, there would be a division of work based upon the skill level of the craftsman. An apprentice would be given the task of cutting and roughing out a stone ,then a highly skilled craftsman would finish the product.

@kitefan1 Жыл бұрын

I have a vague memory about heated vinegar instead of water having something to do with fragmenting rock.

@kylewilliams8114 Жыл бұрын

@@kitefan1 that's how Hannibal got his elephants through the Alps.

@Historical_Vagabond Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I'm no expert stone mason, but I was taught to "read the grain" in granite when I worked in a quarry owned by my friend, an old-school Finnish stone cutter. When you follow the grain, granite will cleave nearly perfect, you can also get a clean cut if you go across the grain after practice. Sometimes you can let the stone split itself if you take your time. We split stone with the feather and wedge technique and carbide tip drills, but when the compressor went out, he had forged iron hand drill bits from the 1800's to make the drill holes - slower but didn't need sharpening. I've been laughing at Hancock for decades now, my home town is full of old granite quarries that never saw a diamond wire. Never underestimate the hands of a stone mason - work in a quarry and you soon understand how the pyramids were built.

@walterulasinksi7031 Жыл бұрын

@@kitefan1 vinegar ( acetic acid)can be used for some types of stone. Limestone in particular as it is a sedimentary stone of calcium carbonate made from the crushed shells of aquatic mollusks.

@kitefan1 Жыл бұрын

@@walterulasinksi7031 Thanks. Makes perfect sense. I was overthinking that it might be about heating the vinegar and so on.

@pectenmaximus231 Жыл бұрын

I love that it’s always impossible for pyramids, giant hewn stone blocks, to be have been cut and assembled using then-available tools and techniques, but there’s no doubt about any of the exquisite and monolithic bathhouses, domes, and arenas of the romans, or the great cathedrals of early Medieval Europe.

@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын

_"Doubt"_ The "alternative" schtick is built upon doubt - i.e. the presumption of "gaps" in understanding held by academia. Moral of the story: while Egyptology understands loads and has tons of evidence to support its understanding = some things simply lack physical verification for a variety of reasons. Meanwhile the Roman Empire being more recent comes with tons of validation for our understanding = making it more difficult to generate fantastical "alternative" claims about it. Ergo the "alternative" schtick representing classic _"argumentum ad ignorantiam"_ at its core requires supposed "gaps" - real or imagined - so as to sow doubt followed by their supposedly "plugging those holes" via their specious pseudoscience/historical claims. What you noted shows that they are in fact "winging it" via made up imaginary claims having no real basis in historical fact. Enjoy your day. 🤨

@ccoodd26 Жыл бұрын

Different types of stones and precision

@PRH123 8 ай бұрын

@@ccoodd26 same stone and higher precision

@adorabell4253 27 күн бұрын

No, no, they've gotten there too. Tartaria and the mud flood thing have come even for the extremely well documented and photographed monuments.

@IdwarfRedwoods Жыл бұрын

Nailed it! I’ve personally never doubted the ancients’ stonework, but this collection proves without a doubt they had everything they needed to do it

@bobwilson7684 Жыл бұрын

no, not a single example finished, not even three smal polygonal blocks.

@IdwarfRedwoods Жыл бұрын

@@bobwilson7684 the stoneworker’s toward the end working with the giant block of granite finished the edge perfectly. I also think you are getting hung up on minute details. If half of these people, who are novices, get that close without any training at all, ancients with generations of experience can easily do it.

@darrenb3830 Жыл бұрын

@@bobwilson7684 The temple being built over 20 years had individual pieces completed and the lady at the end had finished works. Most these people are not getting paid for it, in ancient Egypt they wouldn't have that problem and had teams of people working on it. These clips disprove the claim it's not possible to cut or polish granite with 'primitive' tools. You are an idiot.

@hattershouse710 Жыл бұрын

except they didnt have what it takes to make geometrically perfect objects by hand

@IdwarfRedwoods Жыл бұрын

@@hattershouse710 ? Have you taken or seen measurements of these objects being “geometrically” perfect? The only measurements I’ve seen (on sarcophagi) are NOT geometrically perfect

@magusmelanie828 Жыл бұрын

This video is an absolute home run! 🙌 Awesomeness

@bobwilson7684 Жыл бұрын

not a single mark matches the marks on the great obelisk.

@magusmelanie828 Жыл бұрын

@@bobwilson7684 those are consistent with a heat scorching method, where the rock is heated then doused with water causing fractures

@ariblue400 Ай бұрын

My father always says "People of antiquity needed just talent, patience and time to make those marvellous constructions and if there is something they do had in those days, was time"

@rockysexton8720 Жыл бұрын

Wingnut 1: Copper chisels LOL Miano: Demonstrated in this portion of the video. Did you watch it? Wingnut 2: But what about cutting granite? Explain that. Miano: Demonstrated in this portion of the video. Did you watch the whole video? Wingnut 3: Well, in this experiment they carved stone but it took a long time and the result looks amateurish. Minao: That;s because the person doing it is an amateur and it is their first effort. It was explained in this portion of the video. Did you watch the whole thing? Wingnut 4: Now do an exact full-scale replica of the Great Pyramid using ancient Egyptian technology. Miano: Right after you build your version of the Great Pyramid with your hypothesized lost technology. Then get it to operate as a power plant. Wingnut 5: The video is completely unconvincing. Miano: You made this comment 5 minutes after the video was posted. Does that about cover it?

@NewNecro Жыл бұрын

Probably just about missing "but people I've heard that from are so popular, they couldn't be wrong" and "but the stones are too heavy".

@TopazBadger6550 Жыл бұрын

Now make a 100 ton serapeum box, or even the diminutive schist disk.

@rockysexton8720 Жыл бұрын

@@TopazBadger6550 Wingnut 4.5 arrives as a subset of "now build a pyramid," etc. , with much the same response. Wingnut 1-5 scenarios are expandable into subsections. Wingnut 6+ categories can be added as the need arrives.

@ccoodd26 Жыл бұрын

The high precision of the granite vases found counter this whole explanation.

@wout123100 11 ай бұрын

@@ccoodd26 they dont, get rid of your brainwash man, these vases can be simply made, takes just time.

@teucer915 Жыл бұрын

I had heard plenty of people tell me this was possible, and I've always believed it, but *seeing how it's done* is really cool!

@FischerNilsA Жыл бұрын

Scientists against myth do a lot of great work on that. Have a look. Youll never look at granite the same way after you´ve seen a pretty young lady abrate a lump of granite down to a polished vase in a stick-built lathe with some sandstone refuse.

@Please_Consume_Irresponsibly Жыл бұрын

History Channel: “How could they carve GRANITE? Alien technology!?” Some dude named Mike: “Watch me carve granite with a rock and a stick”

@bipolarminddroppings Жыл бұрын

The answer is always "with a lot of hard work, essentially unlimited human labour and some basic construction knowledge"

@kylewilliams8114 Жыл бұрын

"The ancient Egyptians built these granite sarcophaguses in a cave with rocks and a box of scraps!" "We're not ancient Egyptians, sir."

@JH-pt6ih Жыл бұрын

But maybe “Mike” is an alien.

@almitrahopkins1873 Жыл бұрын

@@JH-pt6ih He didn’t sound like an alien. No funny accent…

@TheRotnflesh Жыл бұрын

Videos like these do not address cut marks made into the basalt floorstones of Giza, cut marks well-documented and studied at length. Those cut marks have been determined to have been made by a very heavy, high-speed tool thanks to the striations we see in EVERY stone we cut, and those cuts are faster, and heavier, than our tools today. Videos like these do not address the mathematical perfection exhibited at Giza, the Pyramids, and every ancient statue from one side of the ancient Kingdom the other, from the basalt statues to the Statues of Memnon. Their parameters are exquisitely perfect, down to the fractional millimeter of disparity from left to right. The Cheops is designed using Euclidean Geometry and measures in Royal Cubits: 400 cubits to a side (off on INCHES) and when multiplied by 43,200 (or half the seconds of a day) you get 21,600 miles, which is the Earth's circumference, and makes the Cheops 1:43,200th scale the size of the Earth. Menkaure and Khafre are also Euclidean, and their dimensions were derived using that very same mathematics and the dimensions of the Cheops, and Khafre, respectively. Do more research before claiming videos like these explain everything. Ancient Egypt was not supposed to have an understanding of Pi, and Phi, and Euclidean Geometry uses both repeatedly. Over, and over, and over. It's called Metatron's Cube. These videos also do not explain the EXACT SAME stone-shaping construction used on the limestone casing stones being found around the world, the stones shaped so perfectly, and have unexplained "protuberances"; nor do these videos explain how places like the Osireiron and Cusco have exactly the same building methods (old walls, the ones the Inca built over). I don't propose aliens, I propose civilization lost.

@PaxofPI Жыл бұрын

I wonder what the ”They couldn’t have cut granit…” people think we use to cut and polish diamonds with since by their logic it should be impossible to cut and shape a diamond since it is the hardest material and you would need something harder to cut it.

@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@NewNecro Жыл бұрын

Probably something along the lines of comic book's laser beams.

@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks Жыл бұрын

@trials4free Brien knows its bs...he's in it for the money

@TheRotnflesh Жыл бұрын

@trials4free People who join youtube comments to post laudatorily at the academic narrative have not done any research on any of the old places of the world. You have not been there, measured anything, written reports, debated in scientific circles, nor actually tested anything. These videos do not show copper tools cutting large blocks of granite, diorite, amorphous quartzite (8-9 on Mohs, that), exquisitely detailed statues, 30 foot obelisks, or any such thing. They show cutting soft stones. I laud the attempts to recreate academic narratives, but this is ridiculous. I've been searching for just 1 video showing a stack of perfectly cut multi-ton stones dragged/moved even 5 miles without power tools, and they are conspicuously absent. Any attempts to recreate what I just described have been met with EXTREME challenges and failures, challenges and failures that DO NOT SATISFY THE 20 YEAR REQUIREMENT TO BUILD THE CHEOPS PYRAMID. Hence, these methods are wrong. There are false-start locations all over Giza. Don't know what that is? Why are you posting about cut marks on stone? Do you know what types of cuts there are, or how to identify them? kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3K4dXV8ptNre68 Watch the video before commenting again. If you do comment before watching it, then I know you're just another sheep troll parroting the Piper's song and can dismiss you with prejudice.

@WorldofAntiquity Жыл бұрын

You know who hasn't done any research? Someone that thinks that any archaeologist is claiming that blocks of granite, diorite, or quartzite were made with copper tools. It's easy to say something is ridiculous when you invent a ridiculous claim and pretend someone else said it.

@eduardom.8766 8 ай бұрын

For anyone interested-The Diorite vase video was uploaded yesterday by Scientists Against Myths

@ogukuo97 Жыл бұрын

I am amazed and humbled by the Indian and Egyptian workers using traditional techniques. Respect.

@jguth6 6 ай бұрын

World of antiquity I doubt youl see this but this video changed my mind. I loved Hancock and Carlson on their first couple JRE appearances. But the more I watched I would notice they sometimes fobbed off questions or answered a different questions than what was asked. A typical politician move. Then I found this video and this is totally not what i had believed before. I'm shocked

@JRMcVay Жыл бұрын

This is the best assembly of practical archaeological experiments I have ever seen. Thank you so much for putting this together.

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@NerdTheNinja Жыл бұрын

@@nedi6188 I dont think its was that hard for them to figure out how to drill under those kind of angles. Im not sure why you think that would suddenly be impossible. Also unchartedx gotta be one of the funniest people out there. Tries to show the precision with his "straight edge" and the light going under it just debunks his whole "super precision" talking point.

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@@NerdTheNinja well based on the know tools its impossible with how perfect its drill. Can you describe how it will be done using the accepted tools they insist that made them.

@NerdTheNinja Жыл бұрын

@@nedi6188 I would guess it would have been done in a similar way that the Indians drilled that hole in this video (someone holds the drill piece, while the other hammers it or the other one uses the bow tool to rotate the drill). Also i have no idea what you think is perfect about that drill hole. Also this video shows it was possible to drill those kinds of holes everywhere else, but suddenly it couldnt be done because theres less space. This people did this kind of stuff for their whole life time, i wouldnt be surprised they would learn how to do this stuff. I used to agree with UnchartedX, but World of Antiquity (in various videos) shows that UnchartedX gets a lot of stuff wrong, he didnt want to even talk with WoA about the stuff he got wrong and now sells $9k+ tours of Egypt.

@Janizzary Жыл бұрын

This is excellent. I'm so glad these scholars and artists are fighting back against the ancient aliens BS.

@kenboydart Жыл бұрын

Amen brother ......

@almitrahopkins1873 Жыл бұрын

The lack of evidence of aliens isn’t enough to blow that crap out of the water?

@Gigihmmm Жыл бұрын

As someone how loves history especially the 2000 BC ~ 600 BC era I love it when ancient aliens gets torn apart.

@TheRotnflesh Жыл бұрын

Nobody claimed that copper couldn't CHIP hard stone. It is claimed that it could not SHAPE stone. Kailash temple was not cut with copper tools; Longyou was not cut with copper tools; Baalbeks trilothon was not cut with copper tools. There are actual cut marks all over Giza, Aswan, Longyou, and many other places that were NOT made by copper tools. I don't ascribe to ancient aliens, but ancient civilizations? I do. And there is more than ample evidence for it.

@Insectoid_ Жыл бұрын

I love how shocked people are going to be soon when it’s announced we aren’t alone.

@maragrauwald2469 Жыл бұрын

For the last months I have been researching stone bead technology in sub-Sahara Africa during the Later Stone Age. I am an Archaeologist and found out that there are multiple beads, found in dated contexts, made of granite and other hard stones that have been perfectly drilled and polished by the time around 4000 bp. Microscopic analysis could show that they used drills made of silex and quartz with additional sand and water to do the task. So if partially sedentary cultures in Nigeria were able to work with granite by using tools made of stone to produce "perfect" beads I am totally happy to accept that the Egyptians were able to do just the same on a bigger scale! I really enjoy your content, btw :)

@xl000 Жыл бұрын

If Mike can do it, just imagine what an entire population of workers familiar with those materials and willing to please their ruler could have done

@jean-lucpicard581 8 ай бұрын

Their ruler being the literal incarnation of the highest God... What an honor it would have been.

@ThrottleAddiction Жыл бұрын

People just can't seem to fathom the role of ancient craftsmen - they'd have one job to do and would work on it all day for six or seven days a week until it was completed, or ready for another craftsman to polish... finish off. We don't work like that anymore and it is that mindset which has been lost to time. Unfortunately, some people really can't comprehend or accept that, so they prefer to side with mystery and fantasy as an explanation.

@ThrottleAddiction Жыл бұрын

@@darklight2.1 Yes - just simple realisation that's what people did back then... that's all they did.

@kristian2700 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this greatly needed compilation of examples (and thanks, as well, to the contributing channels)!

@megageektopus 4 ай бұрын

People who have never used tools or made anything conjure Aliens and Atlantis to explain what they can’t understand. To artisans, ancient stone work is no mystery , just amazingly talented people with a lot of time and few distractions.

@varyolla435 4 ай бұрын

Who were further being paid to create those things. Thus while we have artists/craftsmen today they are stereotypically people who live their lives and who create things often hoped to be sold to someone - which allows the artist to subsist. In ancient times however the Pharaohs et al maintained guilds of craftsmen who subsisted off their patron. Accordingly an Egyptian craftsman working for a Pharaoh or perhaps a large temple need not worry about where to live or obtaining food as = they were provided these things as payment for services rendered. This meant they as you alluded to could focus solely upon their work not needing to worry about basic needs.

@louisjov Жыл бұрын

I saw an episode of Little House on the Prairie a couple months ago, and the dad went to work in a stone quarry, drilling holes with another guy using this method of a hammer and a rotating chisel. Little House on the Prairie got it right for god's sake!

@LordDavidVader Жыл бұрын

😮😮😮

@AloisWeimar Жыл бұрын

clearly the “Little House” could only have been made with Ancient Advanced High Technology and Giants during the younger dryas, wake up sheeple !

@rockysexton8720 Жыл бұрын

As an interesting aide note, during that time drilling and blasting was common in Minnesota. Sometime holes were drilled but not blasted for various reasons. But people pushing the narrative that vikings were in that area 1200 years ago insist that any hole drilled like that is attributable to vikings making them as mooring points for thei ships.

@LordDavidVader Жыл бұрын

@@rockysexton8720 I was on board with you until you diss'ed the my ancestors from Norway... lol. naw just kidding, I mean it is pretty cool we know they made it to Newfoundland but not much further.

@LordDavidVader Жыл бұрын

@@rockysexton8720 PS you have triggered a crap load of horrible repressed memories of me having to watch Little House cause that's what my sisters had on the TV. Back in those days kids don't believe existed, when we had one TV and no internet.

@zacharykam5161 3 ай бұрын

This was a really fantastic video and I can't thank you enough for it

@skipinkoreaable Жыл бұрын

You did well my friend. This was very educational and well put together. Thank you for putting in the hard work so I could still learn something with this video on in the background while doing something. It's also really nice to know that some of these stoneworking traditions are still alive.

@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын

Yes. As an aside. I watched a doco a few years back about the restoration of Notre Dame after its terrible fire. While in modern times artisans often use modern tools for the most part to save time and effort of course - those restoring the damaged cathedral are doing it all by hand as the original builders did to include where possible sourcing the same wood/stone used in the structure. So it is thankfully not an entirely "lost art" yet.

@skipinkoreaable Жыл бұрын

@@varyolla435 Wow! That's nice to know.

@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын

@@skipinkoreaable Welcome. They are as alluded to trying to restore it as accurately as possible - which is great. Also as an aside upon the fire occurring the response to support such restoration was global. So people/groups all over the world cared enough to want to restore what could have been a total loss. Some individuals there risked their lives to save historic items from being consumed by the fire. It will take possible decades to fully restore. Think Abu Simbel. When Egypt under its military dictator Nassar declared the Aswan Dam would be built Abu Simbel and other sites were threatened with destruction. So an international outcry to raise donations began and teams of engineers etc. from around the world worked to save these things. While many often do not give the past a lot of thought = enough still care about our heritage to try to preserve it where possible.

@skipinkoreaable Жыл бұрын

@Vary Olla The preservation of Abu Simbel was nothing short of amazing. I didn't know what had happened with the restoration of Notre Dame, but it's very inspiring reading it the way you're telling it.

@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын

@@skipinkoreaable There have been various reports in the news of late regarding the status of the restoration which you can look up - to include video segments on YT channels here by news agencies. So far about 850 million Euros have been pledged by individuals/groups/nations towards the effort. Also as alluded to more in depth documentaries have been done such as the one I watched a few years back.

@damdampapa Жыл бұрын

I love how you hammered (yes, a pun) the point across!! You didn't even need audio or any narration. Denying this would be mental gymnastics at an Olympic level. Great job!

@edwardlangdon9256 Жыл бұрын

Loved this video, you nailed it as always. Was not a skeptic and found this to be the most thorough explanation of all the documentaries I have seen on the subject.

@tolentarpay5464 Жыл бұрын

Probably the hardest of Life's Lessons I ever had to learn: "...Just cause I can't imagine it doesn't mean it can't be true!..."; think about it, Ancient Aliens!

@fernandperrier4461 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this very informative video

@knowyourrights9793 Жыл бұрын

5:55 *OMG!!* I NEVER would've Imagined MIKE would get a Shout-out from You!! I've been subbed to his Channel for Years, He's Amazing!!

@danielgreen2788 Жыл бұрын

Just amazing , the level of artistry and imagination of ancient egiptians its awe inspiring, thank you for your videos.

@RostislavLapshin Жыл бұрын

21:00 Below is my comments (related to the Peruvian polygonal masonry) to the Mike Haduck video on his KZbin channel: Hello, Mike. I saw your video. In Peru we have examples of large-scale polygonal structures. Your examples in the video relate to small items only. Yes, it is possible using a chisel of a hard stone to treat comparatively precisely small-sized surfaces on hard stones like a granite. However, the techniques you have demonstrated can not be used for large-scale constructional purposes because of very low productivity. To finish the large-scale polygonal construction within a reasonable time using a reasonable number of workforce, we should use a set of steel chisels of different shapes and sizes as in your workshop. The rectangular inner corner you have demonstrated in the video is a small-sized corner in a small stone. Moreover, this corner despite its shape is an arbitrary processed surface in the main. In the Peruvian polygonal masonry we have to deal not only with the arbitrary processed surface but also with a rather precise coping of non-plane (curved) side of one stone on side of another stone. When the stones are small as in your video, really, it is not a big deal to interface them precisely by applying one stone to other stone periodically and removing excess material where it is necessary. But, how can you periodically apply precisely the large stones weighing from several hundred kg to several tons to each other? That is the problem.

@RostislavLapshin Жыл бұрын

For those who are interested in the topic of polygonal masonry. A number of methods for obtaining the polygonal masonry are proposed. The basis of the proposed methods is the use of clay/gypsum replicas, a topography translator, and reduced clay models of the stone blocks along with a 3D-pantograph. The results are presented in the article: “Fabrication methods of the polygonal masonry of large tightly-fitted stone blocks with curved surface interfaces in megalithic structures of Peru” (DOI: 10.20944/preprints202108.0087.v10). KZbin does not allow a direct link. Search by the article title.

@WorldofAntiquity Жыл бұрын

*However, the techniques you have demonstrated can not be used for large-scale constructional purposes because of very low productivity. To finish the large-scale polygonal construction within a reasonable time using a reasonable number of workforce, we should use a set of steel chisels of different shapes and sizes as in your workshop.* So your objection is that it would take too long? *But, how can you periodically apply precisely the large stones weighing from several hundred kg to several tons to each other?* This is discussed in the very video you are commenting on. Your thesis (that Europeans built the fort in the 18th century) contradicts eyewitness accounts of the Spaniards.

@RostislavLapshin Жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity >So your objection is that it would take too long? Well, of course! >This is discussed in the very video you are commenting on. Maybe I missed something. Let me know the exact video timing, please. >Your thesis (that Europeans built the fort in the 18th century) contradicts eyewitness accounts of the Spaniards. Written accounts of the Spanish eyewitnesses are late fakes. In the sections "3.5.1. A few words about the role of the Vatican", "3.5.2. The Monroe Doctrine", and "3.5.3. In the bottom line" of the article, I explain the reasons for the distortion of the Peruvian history. Why do we need these written testimonies of eyewitnesses, if we can see with our own eyes that we have a typical star fortress in front of us.

@RostislavLapshin Ай бұрын

For those who are interested in the topic of polygonal masonry. The book “Peruvian polygonal masonry: how, who, when and what for” (114 pp., Litres, Moscow, 2024) has been published. The book is freely available at Litres (to download, a simple registration is only required).

@matt-qz2dv Жыл бұрын

We also need to consider that the best of the best masons were carving granite stone, these were lifetime vets

@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын

Yes. When Darius conquered Egypt after the collapse of the Late Period the renown of Egyptian stone masonry was such that he sent Egyptian stone masons to help build his new capital city of Persepolis. The dynastic Egyptian civilization lasted 3 millennia - even with its intermittent collapses. Thus that is thousands of years of an organized industry of masonry whereby as you alluded people were being systematically trained in stone working from generation to generation improving upon the process as they went. 🤔

@alland1241 Жыл бұрын

@@varyolla435 Exactly, and considering that a Pharaoh was for life and not just for Christmas there would have been a constant output of statues and coffins, mostly unfinished just sat around waiting to take on the likeness or cartouche of the next king

@xl000 7 ай бұрын

Life expectancy for men in Ancient Egypt is believed to be around 30 / 35 years old.

@jakubgolla4808 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, great video!

@WorldofAntiquity Жыл бұрын

And thank you!

@AwakeAtTheWheel Жыл бұрын

Your channel is always great, but this might be your best video yet! Thank you so much!🍻

@opiesmith9270 Жыл бұрын

👏🏻 👏🏻 I’ve been trying to link to these very same videos under all the ancient high technology videos on KZbin. Great job!!

@Leeside999 Жыл бұрын

I'll be doing the same. Foerester will be busy deleting comments for a while.

@kevinkestler4375 Жыл бұрын

Very well done comparison and montage of some of the possible techniques employed. The grouping of all these different videos opens the mind up more to the various types of craftmanship and skill levels used and implies a hierarchy of abilities during each stage of processing. Raw labor to high artisanship. Egyptians were masterful quarrymen and understood stone and breaklines. Also good evidence out there that Nile delta silt held excellent micro abrasive silt and sediment for grinding and polishing slurry. Thanks for the great perspective!

@AnyoneCanSee Жыл бұрын

Great job! Clear, precise and excellently produced as always. I hoped to see a video like this from you as I watched "Scientists against myth" videos and thought that someone with your knowledge needed to bring together the hands-on practical proof in those videos and others. Thank you for your hard work in combating misinformation online.

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@methylmike Жыл бұрын

great episode. thanks for getting so many of the counter arguments organized. i was entertained and got my notebook out

@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын

Glad to see this video available again.

@2lefThumbs Жыл бұрын

Great compilation and narrative showcasing some excellent work 👍👍 I'm particularly impressed by the guys making flat surfaces with a sharp edge using pounders, but all of the segments showed great ingenuity and hard work.

@AncientPuzzles Жыл бұрын

This shows how important skills and patience are. We're used to have everything done immediately, and great craftsmanship always requires a lot of time and effort. Some should realise modern tech might be faster, but some things in order to look perfect, must be done by hand. Beautiful video👍🏻

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@AncientPuzzles Жыл бұрын

@@nedi6188 It's taking me a lot of time to upload content. I have several scripts that will eventually become videos, and none of them are about debunking Ben. Who knows someday, but Dr. Miano has been very consistent doing this, so most likely, he will bring what you're asking for

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply its just that I dont think some of Unchartered X claims are all out of this world, some made sense. For me I started thinking that we don't really know what is the truth looking at the pyramids, like you said skills and patience so with this in mind if you look on a simple wikipedia of the pyramid timeline all the best constructed pyramid were all during the 4th dynasty. I understand that to acquire the knowledge it took them 4 dynasty to achieve it but for some reason they lost the skill and its not like they decided to stop building them cause you can see they tried up to the 13th dynasty. For some reason that skills and patience never develop and stop after the 4th dynasty unless I missing something?

@AncientPuzzles Жыл бұрын

@@nedi6188 Dr. Miano partly adresses this in his Abusir video, talking about the pyramids that came later (min 17). Keep in mind that, at some point, the ancient egyptians probably realised it was better to hide the tombs to avoid looting, and that's why the valley of the kings exists. Most were still looted, though

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@@AncientPuzzles for me imho its a weak point, even if they realize that they will stop building pyramids cause of "looting" theirs's no way as soon as after the 4th dynasty they stop building w/c they don't, and the quality of build and materials are subpar. And cmon they can mobilize a huge number of people systematically with less tools and machinery to build Khufu and Khafre but they cant arrange a 24/7 protection system to guard the place. I think the main argument that some mainstream against alternative beliefs of downplaying the skills of the Egyptian bites back on this scenario just because of "looting".

@TheTel Жыл бұрын

Really glad to see someone make this! Seems like one of the most ubiquitous pseudo-archaeology openers always has to do with "they couldn't have cut/shaped this stone!"

@TheRotnflesh Жыл бұрын

Actually, we don't deny they cut and shaped stone. We deny the academically provided 'how'. The Giza plateau is filled with false starts, depth cuts, high speed grinding marks, etc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3K4dXV8ptNre68 Here's an in depth study about Giza and its machine marks, complete with photos and historic background info

@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks Жыл бұрын

@TheRotnflesh one thing that never mentioned in those videos about all the supposed "high-speed Machining" marks..even if it proves they are (which the haven't)they never mention that the Giza Plateau was used as a quarry right up until the last century and wasn't protected until the last few decades..so most of them they have no idea when they were made or by who. Egyptian,Greeks, Romans, Ottomans etc or a guy cutting out a lintle for his house in 1930

@philhearne8429 Жыл бұрын

Finally! Been waiting a while for good summary of many types of carving. Well done you! 👏

@Bliving457 Жыл бұрын

What a great video! You and all those featured in this video did an excellent job proving it could be done. Here's to hoping it hits the right ears!

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@therongjr Жыл бұрын

I'm a scientist, and watching you get so excited about your DNA test very endearing! 🥰

@OldieBugger Жыл бұрын

Well, the ancient masons used ancient technologies, like demonstrated here. This _was_ the ancient technology, using stones and whatever metal implements they had to shape stone to whatever they wanted. I love this document. EDIT: typos

@TheRotnflesh Жыл бұрын

Except objects like the diorite statues, which I have personally inspected, are so tool-mark free that you'd think they were poured in a mold. They are symmetrically perfect, the use of pi repeatedly over and over from crown to foot. Those were not with done copper; this video proves nothing. I could cut stone like that using pretty much any other stone; I could not, nor any of my associates (stonemasons, craftsmen, sculptors) reduce the surface to better-than-performance-engine parts fineness. And that's how we've measured it.

@WorldofAntiquity Жыл бұрын

*And that's how we've measured it.* Share your results.

@histguy101 Жыл бұрын

@@TheRotnflesh It's not the saw or chisel that achieves accuracy in an of itself, but the craftsman's skill and their guides and references, like the straight edge, square, plumb and level, measuring stick, compass, etc. This is still true today. It should be common sense even if you've never picked up a tool and built something. Humans have been achieving flat surfaces and 90° corners in stone throughout all of history. It's the most basic skill of a traditional stonemason. I don't mean to be rude, but to not understand this, you'd have to either come from a primitive village with no written language and no system of measurement or construction; or a sheltered 21st century existence where you believe everything is made in factories by perfect CNC machines and 3d printers. Even a CNC machine needs to be checked for square and calibrated. What good is it going to be if the rails aren't perfectly parallel and perpendicular? How are your stone countertops at home cut to a perfect 90°? Industrial saw? How is the saw calibrated to cut a perfect 90°? With a square and angle finder. Accuracy and precision simply is irrelevant to whether something was made with or without power tools. Many modern sculptors use angle grinders. Does an angle grinder magically improve accuracy? No. The guides and measurement tools we use today that help us achieve accuracy in construction have been used since ancient times, and the Egyptians had them.

@bobwilson7684 Жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity show four small polygonal blocks, using those methods, just 10kg each, look how tiny the made some of them, there are no excuses, no finished sample accomplished in real conditions, none, nothing. pseudoscience.

@bobwilson7684 Жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity and your bullying attitude

@mariolongtin8271 Жыл бұрын

I completely understand why you're interested, I've been into my family history ever since my son was born. It's fascinating and mind-blowing how we are alive today. We all have ancestors who survived being hunter-gatherers, into agricultural, middle ages, the migrations into North America, and today. Every child had to survive, find a mate, then raise a child, and they also had to find a mate who survived and raised a child. I was able to go back until the 1600s (France) on one side, and that's where it ends for now.

@TheAdventureZombie 5 ай бұрын

This is a great collaboration of info. It shows all the things I've been trying to recreate.

@SomasAcademy Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this, I've found a few videos demonstrating how these techniques work to share with skeptics, but it's really useful to have a single video with a wide range of examples!

@andreaarchaeology Жыл бұрын

YES, shove it in our faces so even the most stubborn pseudo arch believers can't deny it. Love this video!

@LesterBrunt Жыл бұрын

Oh they will deny it.

@SueMyChin Жыл бұрын

@@LesterBrunt They'll move on and make some claim about precision or scale...

@adamthaxton3157 Жыл бұрын

@@SueMyChin In fact there is a guy doing it right here in these comment sections!

@SueMyChin Жыл бұрын

@@adamthaxton3157 it's so predictable. Makes me wonder if they genuinely belive it or if they're just on a wind-up job. Sad if it's the former...

@donwarner6925 Жыл бұрын

@@SueMyChin So do the scans recently posted by UnchartedX have any benefit?

@notreallymyname3736 Жыл бұрын

Always remember kids: you dont need aliens to carve granite when you have time, perseverance, and a massive workforce.

@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын

That = and a "purpose". The Pharaohs/temples employed professional craftsmen. Thus like today they will work on whatever the project is for as long as required as that is their "dayjob". The added consideration of their religious beliefs whereby they believed making such things made Egypt great and pleased their Gods is a bonus. It still boils down to people who are "salary workers" and if the boss says create a sarcophagus or whatever = that is what you do.

@BSIII 7 ай бұрын

@@varyolla435 exactly! Stoneworking was a massive industry that employed a lot of people for generations, and their skills became efficient. A lot of grifters and grifter followers say, "why don't we build a pyramid today?" Or, "we couldn't build this today!" Yes we can. We certainly can, but who's going to pay for it and why? Building a pyramid would be costly and needs to be paid for. They don't have the same purpose to us the way they did to the ancients.

@yensid4294 Жыл бұрын

Scientists Against Myth is a great channel. I've seen the videos you showed clips from & watching her shape & carve that stone was pretty amazing. It's kind of funny to me that no one ever claims that the churches & cathedrals built during the middle ages/Renaissance thru out Europe couldn't have been built without power tools/advanced technology. 🤔

@piyusarkar3065 26 күн бұрын

It's also about strength and skill. If I go and pick up an axe, I still won't be able to chop down a tree. But give that same axe to someone with years of practice, some skills and strength, he/she would do it easily and efficiently. Give those ancient tools to stone workers today who primarily work by hand and let them use those tools for a while to get the hang of it, and see And their biggest advantage was time and patience. In older days, before industrialization, this is how things were done. Whether it's carving stone or weaving clothes, everything was done patiently by hand. And most people were generational workers (for lack of better word). Kids used to learn their fathers' craft from a very young age. We still have similar working practices in India (sadly due to castism)

@varyolla435 26 күн бұрын

In the Serapeum as an example in an ancillary hallway Egyptologists found a sarcophagus = partially completed. This infers several things: 1 - it likely came that way from the quarry. A partially quarried block would be lighter and easier to transport than a solid block of stone. This infers = teams of quarrymen/craftsmen at the quarry site supplying product to whomever requires it - read can afford to obtain it. 2 - yet the sarcophagi in the Serapeum are clearly finished product. This therefore means = the temple itself also maintained a workforce of skilled craftsmen who would take partially completed sarcophagi and do the finishing work and place them in the niches. 3 - now the Serapeum was in operation for ~1,600 years before the temple was shut down by the Romans. It however has a limited number of crypts and hence sarcophagi. What does this then mean??? 4 - it shows whereby new sarcophagi were being carved and placed = intermittently - sometimes only a few a century. As per #1 this means new interments took place as were required/could be afforded. Not every Pharaoh commissioned a new sarcophagi. Conclusion: _Serapeum_ to quarry = _"we require a new granite sarcophagus"_ -------> quarry works to supply that to the temple -----> temple = _"let's park it here and our men can begin work on it when we can do so as we do not yet require it"_ Final thought. An Apis Bull lived a life of splendor as it was viewed as a living God. If it did not die of natural causes it would be ritually killed after ~25 years and the search began for a new Apis Bull. This explains how sometimes many years or decades might pass between interments. Yet what was the average age of an Egyptian back then?? Many died by their 30's or perhaps 40's. So their expected "working life" might be say 20 years or so assuming they began to apprentice in their trade at an early age as was usual. This allows for one team beginning the work and possibly a new team completing it 10 or more years later. This would explain how we sometimes see "so-so" quality work in conjunction with high quality work.

@dewittbo Жыл бұрын

Excellent compilation of ancient stone cutting techniques. As a former university art history teacher, I always wondered how the Egyptians cut those precise ‘inside corners’ on sarcophagi, etc. I couldn’t image how they did it. Now I know. Thank you for this. The Egyptian stone masons were stone cutters without peer in the ancient (or modern) world.

@JMM33RanMA Жыл бұрын

This is a great way to show doubters that the ancients could use tools of the time to achieve the desired results. Their response, of course, is usually to attack the availability and cost of labor. They argue that we can't do it today. This ignores that slave labor and non'-slaves who would work for beer and a bowl of grain, in large numbers, is unavailable in most places today. They also ignore that most people today wouldn't want or use pyramids, though there are some. There are some small pyramid crypts in a N. Bergen Cemetery and others in places like Louisiana. There was a large useless one made of glass and steel in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and another in Las Vegas. As always you provide thought-provoking and highly interesting content. Even the sponsor today was useful, interesting and entertaining. What an improvement over most sponsorships on the Internet, that are alien to the topic, as well as neither interesting nor useful. Kudos all around Prof. Miano.

@AlbertaGeek Жыл бұрын

I've encountered more than a few LAHT (Lost Ancient High Technology) types that say the work wasn't done by chipping away with stone and copper because "it would take such a long time". The fact that they can't imagine people putting in the often tedious work for half a day each day for months on end says more about the social and technological privilege they grew up with than it does about ancient aliens.

@LesterBrunt Жыл бұрын

@@AlbertaGeek I don’t think it is technological privilege because most people are more than familiar with working 40 hours a week doing some tedious boring work all day every day for decades. It is just that most of us don’t see the fruits of our labor.

@AlbertaGeek Жыл бұрын

@@LesterBrunt You misunderstand what I meant by "technological privilege", but that's my fault because I worded it so very poorly. _And_ I was drunk at the time. I was trying to come up with a pithy term for the "instant gratification"/short attention span mindset of the last two generations as it pertains to blue-collar work using modern technology. Yes, they know tedium, but I feel it's different because they're not _creating._ Psychologically, there's a difference between merely _doing_ something tedious and actually _creating_ something, however tedious the work. Tradesmen and artists understand the feeling, but for the most part, the majority of average schlubs working their average schlub jobs do not get that same feeling of day-to-day accomplishment or that same feeling of pride and satisfaction when a task is done and done well. Waiters, bus drivers, ditch-diggers, stevedores, shelf-stockers, warehouse laborers, every flavor of office worker, etc. etc., all do vital work that keeps the gears of society turning, but their work rarely if ever feeds their soul ("soul" in the metaphorical sense). *To that* (getting to the the "privilege" part), that feeling is instead sought out and often found in the form of hobbies. But not being able to dedicate themselves to their hobbies like those who create for an actual living, the accomplishments themselves are naturally smaller. And when using modern materials and machines (the "technological" part), this makes those smaller accomplishments all the easier, all the smaller, and _that_ in turn makes it more difficult for them to imagine that ancient craftsmen actually put in the incredible amounts of time that they did. No, they _must_ have used some form of technology that performed as well as or better than today's to speed the job along. And that, IIRC now that I'm sober, is what I believe I meant at the time by "technological privilege". I have no idea if any of that makes sense to you, but that's all I got. Peace out.

@tomspencer1364 Жыл бұрын

Non of the techniques demonstrated would have boggle the mind of any neolithic farmer. Apparently it is profitable to come up with a silly theory that can be falsified by anyone with the coordination to bash one rock with another. These ancient tech scammers do, however, demonstrate the ancient technique of the dazzling of the chumps -- which is older than metallurgy I'm sure.

@keys2thegrowroom Жыл бұрын

Bro did you say ancient tech scammmer what the hell does that even mean

@wout123100 11 ай бұрын

@@keys2thegrowroom useless to discuss with this one. some rather like fantasies. let them

@jesperjonsrensen3882 Жыл бұрын

Sir ! You just made the biggest mic drop ! Hope you can reach the woo crowd . Good work.

@gowdsake7103 Жыл бұрын

They dont give a shit about facts

@killingtime9283 7 ай бұрын

It's encouraging to see people taking on the task of testing these theories. 🙂 Great video.

@ronmani9476 Жыл бұрын

I have to say you have a unique talent of making an ad not seem like an ad! Love your informative videos keep up the good work

@L_Train Жыл бұрын

Ive been waiting for a video like this for years.

@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын

Excellent video I wonder will Hancock, Foerster, Jimmy Bright etc, provide a link to this video or the videos featured in this one? 🤔

@keys2thegrowroom Жыл бұрын

Man your really jealous they have a following and you don't that's so sad bro

@BaseDeltaZero1972 Жыл бұрын

The "Scientists Against Myths" channel was completely unknown to me. Thanks for featuring them. The "Myths of Ancient History" series here continues to inform and educate with high quality content. 👍

@cCiIcCo Жыл бұрын

I highly recommend you the channel SGD Sacred Geometry. He recreated the primitive tools and techniques in experiments, like tubular copper drills, different mixtures of abrasives, polishing granite with abrasives and another slab of granite, etc. and demonstrated that the tools and techniques indeed worked. The videos are not as professionally made as videos of Scientists Against Myths but the content is very interesting and informative imo.

@BSIII 7 ай бұрын

@@cCiIcCoSGD is my favorite. That man is amazing

@petergunz3353 Жыл бұрын

I dont know why this channel doesn't have more subs?! Share this channel with a friend, lets blow this channel up people.

@lengordon1362 Жыл бұрын

This is wonderful. I've formed a little discussion group in toronto to look at, discuss, and attempt to confirm or debunk various myths and mysteries by experimentation where possible, and logic/thought experiment otherwise. I've been pointing out your channel as the easiest way to explain things. You and your sources do much better than I. Thanks for the great work.

@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks Жыл бұрын

Copper tube drills and chisels : one thing that should be mentioned is the copper pipe/ chistles used to drill holes etc by Mike, scientists against myths and SGD etc is modern 99% pure copper which is softer. The copper used by egyptians was a natural alloy containing a percentage of arsenic with properties more closely resembling bronze which is harder. So alot of these experiments unfortunately handicapped themselves by using modern pure softer copper.

@garywheeler7039 Жыл бұрын

Yes, even recycled copper wire tends to be very high purity copper. As that is what is needed for electrical and electronics. Besides alloys, another thing I was thinking of is work hardening. Copper gets "harder" when it is "worked". When working copper to form objects, craftsmen have to reheat it again to soften it again or it wants to crack. They call it annealing, kind of the opposite of hardening steel. Perhaps this is thy Ozi the Iceman's copper ax looks like it has been beaten somewhat into shape. Not just melted into a form? Beating copper probably makes it more brittle.

@rockysexton8720 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, far too many people can't grasp the difference between a work hardened copper chisel with a high arsenic content and the copper cord on their microwave. Its like they have this mental block and are incapable of thinking thru the difference.

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks Жыл бұрын

@@nedi6188 sure...in typical fashion Ben gives the answer by misrepresenting it , then dismissing it so then he can make some other fantastic claim ..a bow drill literally has an offset drive . google images ..Notice how he shows pictures of modern offset drives but not a bow drill...The drive spindle for the copper tube drill could even be smaller diameter so the rope has more room to clear the edges of the box. He then claims no tube drill has ever been found (which may be true im not sure but the intention is to create doubt) but there are many many ancient egyptian depictions of them being used AND 100s of feet of copper pipes for drainage have been found at Abusir...i feel there was a bow drill found in Tuts tomb but i dont remember how it was designed

@studioMYTH Жыл бұрын

I really cant believe people still believe ancient high technology conspiracies.

@NewNecro Жыл бұрын

When people know nothing they'll believe anything.

@aclinks1 Жыл бұрын

Welp, this is pretty much a smackdown for a lot of what Forester has been saying about ancient high tech. Seeing the actual process of shaping stones is fascinating.

@Leeside999 Жыл бұрын

That guy is utterly clueless.

@keys2thegrowroom Жыл бұрын

I guarantee he is smarter and more educated than you that why you in the comment and he actually has a channel and a following and I bet you don't so you bash the guy cause your really jealous 😂

@wout123100 11 ай бұрын

@@Leeside999 sad thing is he makes a living out of it, selling travels to his locations.

@dannyboywhaa3146 Жыл бұрын

One of the best videos yet! Really thorough explanations and so well put together... The best content on KZbin! 👍

@tgsriram6149 Жыл бұрын

Personally, this is one of your best videos, since I was always fascinated by how Indian temples were built. I have also watched many of your other videos. You present your arguments lucidly and cogently.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. At a later time, I will reach out to you regarding some doubts I have. Many thanks!

@Bliving457 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I feel like the doubters will never believe any of this unless someone would recreate a pyramid to scale. And even then, they all make too much money to ever admit an advanced civilization isn't needed to explain anything. I wish they could just admit that our ancestors were badasses

@randiflagg6954 Жыл бұрын

Very impressive. That should be enough prove to disarm all the ancient aliens folks.

@codewordslinkydog Жыл бұрын

I think they don't believe because they don't believe in hard work ethics never seen never applied it

@thecrew1871 Жыл бұрын

Thankyou for this video. You have given me some valuable insight into how the stone was worked in ancient times. I love how it was done using human creativity and hard work. No alien or “lost” technology was involved! Brilliant!!

@ubimelibiapes333 10 ай бұрын

I have never been a sceptic: the monuments are THERE, and its much easier to think that ancient Egyptians made them (with much time and skill) than believing giants and aliens roamed the Earth 😂 But it was really, really interesting to see demonstrations of different possible techniques - thank you so much for the compilation 🤗

@triberium_ Жыл бұрын

In a world of almost instant gratification, slow and tedious work is unacceptable to those who are used to the quick pleasure.

@LesterBrunt Жыл бұрын

But is it? I think it is more so that we are disconnected from our labor. We work 40+ hours a week from 18 till 70, but we spend it typing away at documents, doing business meetings, stacking shelves, whatever.

@San_Vito Жыл бұрын

@@LesterBrunt Depends on your work. I agree that's the case for most of us, but not for everyone. I've taken a course on how to make musican instruments and several people are still basically artisans what only use some basic power tools for just a few steps of a long process.

@LesterBrunt Жыл бұрын

@@San_Vito True, same for construction workers or anything that is creative. But those are not the typical people wondering how people could carve and move a bunch of rocks since they have personal experience with hands on work.

@AveragePicker Жыл бұрын

It's like I always ask deniers and never get an answer: At what point in history do you think people could have made the things we lived around? ....At some point they have to admit we made things.

@jellyrollthunder3625 Жыл бұрын

as soon as Europeans built stuff.... I don't want to call them racists because I don't think it's intentional

@FischerNilsA Жыл бұрын

@@jellyrollthunder3625 Might not be intentional, but the constant claim if westerners that Greater Zimbabwe, the Pyramids or Teotihuachan could only have been built by either aliens or "white-skinned god from the ocean" is really ubiquitous. I was a fan of Heyerdahl and his hands-on experimental archeology - until I read some of his lesse rknow stuff. Dude was a white supremacist like few others, although I´m sure he would never have thought that about his "it was all white folk" theories.

@cristianmihailovici906 Ай бұрын

Mike Haduk channel.is great.alot of great stuff in.Great Vids

@Ano-Nymous Жыл бұрын

This is a great listing of channels providing major evidence for scientific research and therefor an excellent tool to share with pseudo-archaeologists/scientists. No more need to send individual links to some of these clips. The next one demanding an open mind, but being hindered to be that themself will be invited to have a look at this masterpiece of a collection. Thank you, David and all the best to you!

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@J_Z913 Жыл бұрын

11:48 Love the incredulity here! This is a great episode of this series. I know some will say that you depend too much on other footage, but that kind of proves your point. By showing that this sort of craftsmanship was possible from multiple sources, you more than demonstrate the unnecessary nature of the ancient high technology theory.

@walterulasinksi7031 Жыл бұрын

Let us be clear, DNA testing can. Only tell where the current proportion of similar heritage is located. That doesn’t mean that is where it started, or how it migrated. It can give indications , such as DNA testing on bones at a philistine site in Israel indicated an Iberian origin based upon bone DNA of a similar age found in Spain.

@WayneBraack Жыл бұрын

This is the video I, and my guess is a LOT of others, have been waiting for!! Fascinating to me seeing this done with simple things our ancestors could just pick up off the ground. I've aware of the Scientists Against Myth channel you mentioned. I binge on it from time to time. I'm going to bookmark it my bookmarks bar and use it to share this knowledge with our friends who are in willful denial in hopes that it will help others educate themselves. Unless of course you may think that might cause you some headache by sending deniers to your channel to comment bomb you. Wouldn't want to inconvenience you Dr. Please keep up your good work dispelling the half-truthers and liars out there that profit by misleading people. It's my belief that misinformation causes harm to society. Maybe I'm wrong about that but I do think good science like this needs to be out there to counter the fake information producers. Too many channels claiming ancient aliens, the pyramids are ancient power plants, they had flying machines in 14k BCE .. .. yeesh. Wonder if they had a McDonalds back then ... hmmmmmm. j/k don't eat fast food kids. it's horrible for you.

@nedi6188 Жыл бұрын

@adamhalkiewicz303 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this :) I have been waiting for that kind of video practically debunking Brian Forster's claims. Finally, I can sleep with my mind clean.

@Dizle81 Жыл бұрын

Nice collection of video's,I've seen some of them, but a lot are new to me . thank you !

@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын

Excellent, excellent video. Mike Haduck has a great channel. Also interesting is this article about metal hardness. EFFECT OF COLD-HAMMERING ON THE HARDNESS OF ANCIENT ARTIFACTS FROM SOUTH AMERICA

@WorldofAntiquity Жыл бұрын

I'm unable to find it. Do you have a link?

@Vision_2 Жыл бұрын

Hmm. Links not working.

@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity I see my links from this account but not from any other. The article was from Research Gate.

@felixk1843 Жыл бұрын

Someone please send this video to Joe Rogan and make him watch it

@lastofmygeneration Жыл бұрын

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it.

@stuarthitchiner3973 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely amazing what they were able to prove in this video... LOVED IT !!

@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын

As much as the information in the video itself is the source links provided in the dropdown menu below. Academic videos typically provide their sourcing so as to leave little to the imagination - whereas "alternative" videos require considerable imagination as what is spoken to is usually unsubstantiated so that you do not know where the information came from or how credible or not it may be. 🤨 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJOTl6ecgKt4gMk

@812guitars Жыл бұрын

This was great!

@SkyFly19853 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are really useful for my video game development based on history and turn based similar to Sid Meier's Civilization.

@bilbobaggins2302 Жыл бұрын

Damn cool project bro! Wish u luck!

@SkyFly19853 Жыл бұрын

@@bilbobaggins2302 I intend to make a Civ like game that would become its own franchise. ✅✅✅

@JMM33RanMA Жыл бұрын

@@SkyFly19853 I used to play a number of those, but my interest in urban planning and transportation infrastructure mean that, combined with my caming hobby, nowadays, I only make and play scenarios in the Open version of Transportation Tycoon. As I recall, the Civ games had a kind of Transport upgrade, but it was superficial; like the one in Alpha Centauri. Good luck with your project.

@stainlessdoom3433 Жыл бұрын

@@SkyFly19853 I was here before the franchise

@SkyFly19853 Жыл бұрын

@@JMM33RanMA The game I design will have those features from Simcity as well. I will make it really REPLAYABLE and interesting.

@Breakfast_of_Champions Жыл бұрын

The Romans even had the famous Noricum steel from Austria, which is naturally alloyed to superior hardness. You can bet the Indians also found something like this in the Himalayas.

@UncleBildo Жыл бұрын

Top notch vid as always! Very interesting.

@lucasroche8639 Ай бұрын

Imagine if these modern Masons had a few hundred or thousands of years of passed down techniques to add to their belief in what they are doing, they could build I dunno, a temple full of Pharaoh sculptures...

@mattw5840 Жыл бұрын

3:40 to skip this Interesting/Useful ad, you're welcome

@JMM33RanMA Жыл бұрын

Like you, I usually skip ads, unless they seem really interesting or useful. This one was well chosen to relate to topic, and will be potentially interesting and/or useful to many people. It may also be non-interesting or non-useful to some folks, like history in general.

@heisag Жыл бұрын

Woooa , David might be a Nigerian prince.. I'd never would have guessed. One word of caution with those DNA tests centers, they might sell your info to third parties.

@AlbertaGeek Жыл бұрын

You mean like insurance companies?

@heisag Жыл бұрын

@@AlbertaGeek Anyone that want/need to buy i guess. Not saying all companies sell your dna info either , but since i do not know which ones does, i advice caution. Yes, i could see insurance companies beeing intrested in your DNA info if they sell health or life insurances. Note, i am not saying not to do those tests. But know there is a possibility your DNA info might be shared. For some people that is fine, for others, it is not. For me, i decided not to do it , even though i couldn't see any harm come from it. Maybe i do it in the future, maybe not.

@robyn051 Жыл бұрын

Literally every tech company does that

@WorldofAntiquity Жыл бұрын

Read this: www.legalgenealogist.com/2016/05/27/myheritage-dna-terms-changed/