When Fake Archaeology Uses Fake Science

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@Ammo08
@Ammo08 10 ай бұрын
I had a great science teacher from 7th through 9th grades. He was smart, interesting, and had a knack for teaching. When Chariots of the Gods came out (1968), it was all the talk in our small school. Our teacher took the opportunity to debunk everything in it with simple experiments. His point was that primitive peoples may not have had the technology we have, but they weren't stupid. He used wooden stakes and fire to split sandstone, he used other stones to polish it. There was an idea that the Great Pyramids were somehow laid out according to PI..so he took a tire, strapped a wedge to it and had us roll it down the sides of the football field and across and back...he then showed us by using the indentations in the field as your corners...you got sides that mathematically lined up with PI. He taught us the scientific method very early, he talked to us like we were adults. In another experiment he had about five of us, using just 4x4 inch levers, move a very large stone all over a field. Once we got the hang of it, moving that stone was easy. I was so lucky to have really great teachers. Something I've noticed about people expounding on silly ideas is they throw out non-existent science as though it's a known truth, they talk fast and never give you a chance to respond, they use half-truths mixed with facts, and they jump to conclusions with the least real data available.
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer 10 ай бұрын
👍
@azuredystopia3751
@azuredystopia3751 10 ай бұрын
Le Gish Gallop: a scourge.
@Leeside999
@Leeside999 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like a really cool teacher.
@revolutionaryhamburger
@revolutionaryhamburger 10 ай бұрын
It's so much easier and more believable for the popular teacher to sit back and simply say, "It was all space aliens." You don't even have to go outside.
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer 10 ай бұрын
That's probably what Graham Hancock's teacher said. 😜@@revolutionaryhamburger
@Kholdaimon
@Kholdaimon 10 ай бұрын
As someone that worked on evolutionary biology I would like to add that when biologists see two organisms with a similar feature our first assumption is not that they are related. We have seen enough cases of convergent evolution to realize that most of the time it means they perform a similar action and this feature is the best way to perform such action. Features that signal a relation between 2 different species to a evolutionary biologist are silly things that aren't apparent at first glance, like the shape of certain bones in the skull or the angle of certain pelvic bones. These are often changes that indicate a species diverging from an ancestor and creating a new family of species that all share this trait and thus show a related ancestry. Which is much like archaeological research, a pyramid is just the easiest way to build a big structure, so the fact different, unrelated civilizations adopted the shape is expected, but relation is shown in little things, like evolution of language, timing of adopting certain technological advances or similar mythologies.
@kevinmurphy65
@kevinmurphy65 10 ай бұрын
Such a cool field of study! Bet there are things known inside your field that would really be fascinating to investigate. My first real intro was thru my Mother (a Psychologist) and saw first hand the impact on Science and Society after watching Judgement Day: Intelligent Design on Trial. A comment by many of the reporters during this trial was a lot of the science they were learning about, they were learning for the first time, which is sad.
@Kholdaimon
@Kholdaimon 10 ай бұрын
@@kevinmurphy65 I went to the Smithsonian Natural History Museum in Washington while on vacation in the US and me and my wife (a medical biologists) felt the exhibit on evolution had a lot of parts that we worded quite badly. It seemed to imply a directionality or intent behind evolution. Evolutionary theory is actually a really simple concept to understand, but, in my opinion, not explained well by most science communicators. I don't know whether I would be able to do a better job, but almost every time I see a video attempting it I cringe at some of the words used or the simplifications attempted that just end up not teaching people how the evolutionary process really operates...
@magusmelanie828
@magusmelanie828 10 ай бұрын
We're all destined to become crabs 🥴
@shimrrashai-rc8fq
@shimrrashai-rc8fq 10 ай бұрын
Also smaller motifs, like specific forms of the top of columns or the shape of a pyramid than the fact of "a pyramid" itself, e.g. the Mayan pyramids have a distinctive style beyond simply being "pyramidal" like the staggering, top temples, and stairs up the sides. A pyramid, itself, is literally just a man-made mountain. That's all you need to know to understand why they are/were built. Both structurally and in terms of inspiration.
@adamseward4713
@adamseward4713 10 ай бұрын
Yeah. I think that we do not all come from the same chemical reaction that could reproduce itself. That was a big ocean.
@Skaldewolf
@Skaldewolf 10 ай бұрын
Regarding precisionism: A machinist should be familiar with a certain artifact known as a surface plate. A slab of rock with a perfectly flat surface. I'm talking down to a few micrometers of flatness. These are made with nothing more than a few reasonably square pieces of stone, coloured paste and grit. You can do this at home if you want with no more tools or gauges than your hands and eyes.
@chomsky3000
@chomsky3000 10 ай бұрын
Quite profound!
@DelmyTreeCutter
@DelmyTreeCutter 18 күн бұрын
Do it
@olorin4317
@olorin4317 10 ай бұрын
My baby nephew likes to make pyramids with his blocks, so clearly, my sister hooked up with a time traveling Atlantean.
@greenamber9827
@greenamber9827 10 ай бұрын
I don't remember preschool well, but I do remember playing with blocks.
@perceivedvelocity9914
@perceivedvelocity9914 10 ай бұрын
That would be the only logical conclusion.
@seraph.1
@seraph.1 10 ай бұрын
Great comment ❤
@TGBurgerGaming
@TGBurgerGaming 10 ай бұрын
My wife had one of those kids, divorced her immediately. Crazy witch even tried to make ME pay child support.
@letyvasquez2025
@letyvasquez2025 10 ай бұрын
When your nephew starts playing hide n seek and you can’t find him anywhere. Just know that he used the pyramid shape as the key for opening Atlantis.
@JonMartinYXD
@JonMartinYXD 10 ай бұрын
One thing that this video just touches on a few times is that the human brain is a pattern matching machine. Our brains are phenomenally good at finding patterns and are constantly looking for patterns. This is very useful but also has a big downside: false positives. Our brains are so eager to find patterns that we will find patterns and create meaning out of mere coincidence. Being the social creatures we are, the pattern we are looking for the most is human faces. This is one reason we anthropomorphize so many things. Another pattern we are always on the alert for is animals. This was once very important when we were both hunters and prey. "That cloud looks like a rabbit." [brain recognizes a possible meal] "That cloud looks like a lion." [brain recognizes the possibility of _becoming_ a meal] It is pretty rare for us to look at the clouds and see something like a fire hydrant or a 737 MAX door plug... uh oh-
@florianartus3231
@florianartus3231 19 күн бұрын
On that topic, i highly recommand "And man creates God" by Pascal Boyer, 2001, Basic Books edition. These mechanism of human brain seem to have the religions as side effects...
@leemarlin9415
@leemarlin9415 10 ай бұрын
A personal thought: I find it interesting that people have such a hard time believing multiple groups of people can come up with the same solution without contact and exchange of information. No matter where you’re born or what time you were born we all come into the world with the same tool kit. Two arms, two legs, a brain, strong back and a curiosity. So why is it so unreasonable to think we would find similar solutions to the same problem.?
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 10 ай бұрын
Similar materials and needs tend towards similar solutions. Once we get past simple things (basic tools, pottery, baskets, etc), the differences usually show up in the details of construction or function.
@jasongarcia2140
@jasongarcia2140 10 ай бұрын
It's not unreasonable. These outlandish ideas ie. Advanced ancient technology are just ideas.
@dnocturn84
@dnocturn84 10 ай бұрын
And it's not just us humans. It also heavily depends on the subject and our environment. There are only so many variations, on how to make a fire or on how to make a container to store liquids. No wonder people all over the world developed similar concepts.
@PeachysMom
@PeachysMom 10 ай бұрын
@@jasongarcia2140they’re dumb ideas.
@iqweaver
@iqweaver 10 ай бұрын
Give a toddler some building blocks and they will come up with some form of step pyramind.
@angelocatani1800
@angelocatani1800 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately for every channel like yours that actually put people on the right path to understanding the past there are what seems a thousand pseudo sites espousing inaccuracies. Thank you for addressing the fallacies. Totally dig your site.
@spiritualanarchist8162
@spiritualanarchist8162 10 ай бұрын
It's a plague. I guess because Atlantis/Aliens are cool and easy concept to believe in. The mind goes : ' Pyramid over here. Pyramid over there. must be same people behind it ...Duh. And now they can fantasize about all kinds of cool ideas, instead of reading and studying all these boring books with annoying facts.
@jeffstrom164
@jeffstrom164 10 ай бұрын
Funny you should say that when he is pushing a fallacy himself. His definition of civilization is wrong, making his statement, that civilization isn't inevitable, false. By the definition of civilization, not only is it inevitable, humanity has never existed without it.
@spiritualanarchist8162
@spiritualanarchist8162 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffstrom164 That depends on what you mean with civilisatie. Do yo call (for example) Nomadic tribes made up by by a small number of families a civilization ?
@jeffstrom164
@jeffstrom164 10 ай бұрын
@spiritualanarchist8162 by the definition of civilization, yes. That is civilization. Civilization has no numerical requirement. It's not a binary. Its a scale involving many different things, none of which are required individually.
@spiritualanarchist8162
@spiritualanarchist8162 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffstrom164 What I mean is that ,there are (atleast) two ways to use the word civilization . One . The customs , traditions a group of people have , can be called 'their civilization ' Or civilization can be used for : an advanced state of human society in with a high level of culture, science, industry, and government .
@BaronVonQuiply
@BaronVonQuiply 10 ай бұрын
20:22 I heard _"The use of meth makes it look like something scientific and objective"_ and while I know I'm wrong, I'm also right.
@kevinmurphy65
@kevinmurphy65 10 ай бұрын
LOL ok glad I was not drinking milk when reading your comment!
@DavidScott-oq9yp
@DavidScott-oq9yp 10 ай бұрын
Also makes you want to spend hours taking it apart to see how it works, because it's just that super-interesting.
@almishti
@almishti 10 ай бұрын
like the tweaker i met very late one night in Berkeley who got all excited when he saw me carrying a small coffee table (long story) and I had to put it down while he rummaged thru his box of tweaker treasures. He pulled out a recently-dead blackbird, a carnelian flower, several exploded pens (that he tried to use to write notes in his notebook but none of them worked and he got ink all over his hands) and a few old radio parts and computer boards. He put them all on my table and was very intently trying to assemble them into a bio-techno thing that would do *something* remarkable I'm sure but he got frustrated that he couldn't record the procedure in his notebook so in the end he just started stabbing the dead blackbird with one of his dead pens. This might have been part of the procedure, I wasn't sure. He was very scientific about it all.
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks 10 ай бұрын
Please pause at 10:42 this image claiming perfect symmetry is right out of Christopher Dunn's book. At a glance the beard and philtrum( under the nose) are offset. He just arbitrarily added some fat lines on top of a picture and measured nothing.
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open 10 ай бұрын
I am always amazed at the obvious non-symmetry that Dunn commands you to believe is symmetry.
@Leeside999
@Leeside999 10 ай бұрын
But but but Christopher Dunn is an eNGinEEr!!!!
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks 10 ай бұрын
@@Eyes_Open Rogan has them put the pics up on his screen and goes "ohhhhh woOow" 🤦‍♂️
@MrAchile13
@MrAchile13 10 ай бұрын
@@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks ben from uncharted x pulled a photo of an Egyptian granite core, on Joe's podcast and begun to wonder at how impossible it is....without realizing he's looking at an experimental replica made by scientists against myths 🤣 Of course, he still pretends that didn't happened...
@caodesignworks2407
@caodesignworks2407 10 ай бұрын
On almost every one of those "but the symmetry though" claims, specifically the vessels, you'll see handles with far less symmetry, often off set from each other. and when you bring them up, it's always dismissed
@johnheckles8239
@johnheckles8239 10 ай бұрын
If not for channels like yours I’d still be watching “Woo” channels and believing the likes of Hancock.. So Thankyou for putting me on the right path 👍🏻
@leftyme4568
@leftyme4568 10 ай бұрын
You don`t have to believe everything, but just listen to the ideas. I bet you that not everything he says is untrue. And his theories makes people think. Many people have been mocked through the centuries on their theories that turned out to be true. Remember when the eaarth was flat?
@jasongarcia2140
@jasongarcia2140 10 ай бұрын
​@@Catdad76801why? Isn't he just proposing ideas? I mean he states himself that he is not a scientist. Archeology needs forensic science.
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 10 ай бұрын
@@jasongarcia2140 _"Archeology needs forensic science"_ Exactly how do you believe archaeology works?
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 10 ай бұрын
@@jasongarcia2140 _"Isn't he just proposing ideas?"_ No, he is not "just' doing that. His business model depends on selling the image of himself as a brave crusader against a conspiracy of mainstream academia, and to that end he deliberately misrepresents finds and denigrates work already done.
@Aironeness
@Aironeness 10 ай бұрын
Why has everyone turned on Hancock, he always stated he’s not sold on any 1 idea and that proof has not yet been provided and or certain. New discoveries are made yearly that contradict many mainstream theories. That’s all these things are theories. We can’t be so rigid in our thinking, that’s so arrogant to believe we have everything figured out, on history that happened so long ago with little evidences recorded
@MrAchile13
@MrAchile13 10 ай бұрын
the video quality is visibly better, well done!
@Leeside999
@Leeside999 10 ай бұрын
Hey, bro. I saw some of your recent Serapeum photos. Great work.
@MrAchile13
@MrAchile13 10 ай бұрын
@@Leeside999 Thanks, although the conditions were not ideal. Would have love to have more time and to do better 😅
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks 10 ай бұрын
I came to say the same..I lighting is much better
@JuanitaGrande
@JuanitaGrande 10 ай бұрын
Tres. And THANKS for this gem. 🙌🏼
@johngriffiths118
@johngriffiths118 10 ай бұрын
Nice warm lighting
@RonTodd-gb1eo
@RonTodd-gb1eo 10 ай бұрын
Future archaeologists will discover that all the great religious sites are at the intersection of lines drawn between branches of a well known supermarket.
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 10 ай бұрын
😄
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 5 ай бұрын
someone's gonna find the tumblr post about the costco parking lot at 3am being an alternate dimension and think the costco parking lots must have contained stargates
@Sheevlord
@Sheevlord 10 ай бұрын
Another way to use soft tools to shape hard rocks is to use abrasives. For example, Egyptians used a copper or bronze saw to cut granite. The saw itself didn't do the cutting - instead the work was done by corundum powder between the saw and the stone. In fact, we still use this principle. Sandpaper, for example.
@nox5555
@nox5555 10 ай бұрын
Im not sure if the math behind that theory works. but we will never get a real study about it... Archaeology is not used to the amount of math needed to get a good answer and they are allergic to any kind of hard data... We dont even have any data about how much energy was needed to build any of the megastructures in question.
@God-k5b
@God-k5b 10 ай бұрын
One of the funniest things is how ancient aliens used us as slave labor. As if earths minerals can’t be found anywhere else and they don’t have robots and shit that can mine without the hassle of dealing with people.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 10 ай бұрын
Obviously the logical thing for a space faring civilization to do would be to travel to an entirely different solar system just to land on the most massive terrestrial planet that also has a fairly thick atmosphere, thus making it the most expensive location to acquire minerals, and then enslave a stone age population instead of using mechanization to mine their minerals. Only to mine an absolutely tiny fraction of what said population will themselves mine later in just two centuries using mechanization. In general I tend to find that UFOlogists have a completely absurd idea of what space is like and what makes sense for aliens to do. Like if aliens wanted to observe us they wouldn't be flying around in our atmosphere, they'd construct a giant autonomous telescope in the Oort cloud where we have no chance of detecting it. Like we can build the JWST and we are only just getting the hang of space travel, surely a space faring civilization could easily build something much more advanced.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 5 ай бұрын
As if earth wasn't made out of space stuff. Like, if they're such advanced aliens, wouldn't harvesting exploding stars and nebulae be easier if they've got the spaceships for travelling through a lot of LITERALLY NOTHING INTERESTING?
@mikepowell2776
@mikepowell2776 10 ай бұрын
Back in the 1960s, ‘enhanced’ versions of Watkin’s Ley Line Theory were very popular. Being somewhat sceptical, we (college students at the time) drew a random series of straight lines on an Ordnance Survey map of southern England; twelve lines, each representing around 25 miles. Every one passed through at least six (with a couple passing 10) ‘sacred sites.’ It was all but impossible to draw a line which DIDN’T pass through or beside such sites as churches, stone circles, burial mounds, hillforts and so on simply because there were so many of them. I’m also reminded of a conclusion reached by a (then) leading anthropologist who had discovered a 300 metre set of tracks made by a family group of pre-homo-sapiens. He concluded that they were not yet tool-users as no tools or flakes had been found associated with the tracks. NO! Had it not occurred to him that the makers of the tracks might just possibly have been capable of walking 300 metres without dropping anything? Excellent, thoughtful video - as we’ve come to anticipate. Thanks for your excellent work.
@molybdomancer195
@molybdomancer195 10 ай бұрын
I did an A level in archaeology. In an early project you had to take an Ordnance Survey sheet map and count all the archaeological sites on it. I took the map I had in my house - it was the one containing Stonehenge. My tutor laughed when I sent the results in and said it was a bad choice because how rich in sites that area is. A line going through that map would hit endless sites
@huttj509
@huttj509 10 ай бұрын
A few years ago Matt Parker (Stand Up Maths on youtube)took a similar claim about archaeological sites forming isosceles triangles and worked out the odds of finding those triangles to that precision in random data. He then followed it up by finding the same patterns in locations of old Woolworth's locations, to demonstrate the point.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 5 ай бұрын
Huh. It's good to know that I'm not a tool user according to that leading anthropologist's conclusions. My dad and I used to go camping about a half-kilometer deep into our land parcel when I lived in a very rural area, we carried a fair bit of stuff over there and made it a point to do an inventory check at each rest point because tools are expensive to buy AND to make and it's better to backtrack and pick them back up or better yet not drop them. We also used this revolutionary technology of "bags of something supple enough to carry non-sharp things" and "straps of something that can be twisted and coiled and knotted" to keep the things attached to us.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 5 ай бұрын
@@huttj509 Asleep: theories about ancient civilizations because religious significance sites Awake: ancient precursor civilizations invented corporations because of Costco parking lots' locations on leylines
@stevenleonard7219
@stevenleonard7219 10 ай бұрын
I was so lucky to have an anthropology professor 50 years ago who was well ahead of his time. He was a vociferous opponent of cultural diffusion. He was a proponent of the idea of cultural analogies. Similar ideas, concepts and practices would by their nature be a result of solving similar problems. After all, humans are humans regardless of where they reside.
@LaFayVerte
@LaFayVerte 10 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the way you address this subject now, very informative approach without confrontation against anyone in particular. I am more and more admired of you.
@TanyaLairdCivil
@TanyaLairdCivil 10 ай бұрын
Now I really want to see a paper submitted to (and summarily rejected by) a legitimate historical that just cites the author's dreams as sources.
@CorryDMG
@CorryDMG 10 ай бұрын
The idea that acoustical properties of ancient buildings was always intentional or required advanced knowledge, also regularly pops up. They certainly knew how to design theatres etc, but the idea that some enclosed spaces are specifically tuned to a certain holy frequency is new age nonsens. Or that a pyramid stair is designed so the echo of a clap sounds like a bird, is also not a special feature. Every stair in open air, of even corrugated sheet metal from an ordinary industrial building, will have a similar reflection pattern.
@shimrrashai-rc8fq
@shimrrashai-rc8fq 10 ай бұрын
True. But I'd also wonder though - would it be such an extraordinary claim to suggest some _were_ intentional? You don't need mathematical physics and a supercomputer simulating wave equations to design something acoustically, just intuition for how sound is affected as things are moved about, shapes are changed, etc. The fact that people designed musical instruments for ages is sufficient proof of this principle ... why couldn't they have done that on larger scales, too? Precisely inspired _by_ hearing the very thing you mention - how that sound bounces and alters within a room. The question is, what would _indicate_ an intentional configuration for acoustics, and on what reason would we take it and not something else as evidence for such?
@MetastaticMaladies
@MetastaticMaladies 10 ай бұрын
@@shimrrashai-rc8fq They aren’t saying it isn’t, it’s just not advanced knowledge.
@CorryDMG
@CorryDMG 10 ай бұрын
@@shimrrashai-rc8fq You are correct that a higher degree of understanding physics is not required to make use of principles which can be discovered experimentally. But sometimes people turn this reasoning around.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 10 ай бұрын
@@shimrrashai-rc8fq I mean the way you prove that something was intentionally designed for any specific use is by showing that it was used like that. For example we know that churches were specifically designed to have good acoustics because it is discussed by the people building them and singing is common in churches. But there's no reason to believe that the Giza pyramids were designed to have some specific acoustic properties since they would have been sealed upon completion so were never used for that purpose.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 5 ай бұрын
@@shimrrashai-rc8fq Why would you plug up a room if the accoustics of clapping INSIDE IT were important? You wouldn't seal off a recording booth's door with bricks and mortar, right? Because then it's not exactly serving the purposes you spent time building the recording booth and placing the recording equipment in it for.
@Nowhere-from
@Nowhere-from 10 ай бұрын
This was a great abstract of the most popular pseudo-science theories from today.
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@stuartnicklin650
@stuartnicklin650 10 ай бұрын
Explaining the origin of these ideas from a critical viewpoint is exactly what is needed.
@shanetheundertaker8474
@shanetheundertaker8474 10 ай бұрын
The allure of pseudo science is compelling to some , but the truth is more fascinating than they could ever be ! Especially when you realise the past civilizations were just like us , but more social / cultural. Blessings 🙏 to you all ⭐
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep 10 ай бұрын
So true
@steveswangler6373
@steveswangler6373 10 күн бұрын
I’m curious to know who/why you think previous cultures were “more social/cultural” than we? I feel safe in assuming that ancient peoples living in cities were much like city dwellers today, most doing what they had to do to live, having friends and living among many strangers. Same with rural areas or smaller villages. Those people may have known everyone in their village or farming community but I guarantee they did all get along or like each other, just like people now. And we have art, music, fashion, whatever other subjects that make up culture in that sense, just like folks in the past.
@siddharthabanerjee6155
@siddharthabanerjee6155 10 ай бұрын
I am delighted to see how your channel has progressed and grown since I first discovered it about almost 3 years ago. Keep going.
@letyvasquez2025
@letyvasquez2025 10 ай бұрын
Pseudo-archaeology has already moved on to Lunar and Martian archaelogy. Next up are the asteroids…
@PXCharon
@PXCharon 10 ай бұрын
Precisionism infuriates me to no end. An ancient global supercivilization used their lasers, "vibration and frequency" and other incredible technological advancements to.... stack rocks. Surely if they could build a laser, they'd have mined iron, titanium, aluminum, tungsten, and so on to build incredible structures with less material and labor involved.
@analiviaminsk1171
@analiviaminsk1171 5 ай бұрын
well as far as I see, to carve and build with huge rocks was indeed high technology for 12000 years ago right? Other populations wasn´t even near this advance. So maybe is a matter of perspective.
@steveswangler6373
@steveswangler6373 10 күн бұрын
I believe you missed the point of PX Charon’s comment
@LanceHall
@LanceHall 10 ай бұрын
It's interesting how Chris Dunn shows us a jar that he says can ONLY be made on a modern equipment while being surrounded by the modern equipment that could make it.
@edgarsnake2857
@edgarsnake2857 10 ай бұрын
Great job, David. It has always amazed me that the 'pseudos' turn their noses up at science and archaeology. And then they brazenly turn around and try to use 'science' to prove their points.
@afterthought3341
@afterthought3341 10 ай бұрын
the pseudos' have encouraged many people to look into archelogy .
@jasongarcia2140
@jasongarcia2140 10 ай бұрын
It's also funny that just because a video supports certain beliefs that guarantees all or most of the comments are going to be "on the same team". I am totally on board with a lot of the "pseudo" sciences but im still here..
@adamseward4713
@adamseward4713 10 ай бұрын
At first i was put off by your use of air quotes; later, watching you lean into the camera, I thought, "I'd hate to run into this guy at a party." Finally, though, I gave you a very rare thumbs up, because you were correct on every point and supplied good information, such as the Moh scale. I'm a life-long student of pre-contact South American cultures, live where they lived, and dealing with people influenced by guys like Brien Foerster is a price for walking into that room. I have the forensic tools to deal with such people but I'm rarely sure that I have convinced them, and it's nice to run into someone who can make the case with such brevity and clarity.
@CatfishYellow
@CatfishYellow 10 ай бұрын
Almost everyone I've known loves ancient aliens and its still on TV. If I bring up logic, conversations drop and persuasiveness fails everytime. In fact I've risked friendship positions
@jasongarcia2140
@jasongarcia2140 10 ай бұрын
That's sad. I liked that show (sort of) at one point years ago but I love Hancock.
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 10 ай бұрын
@@jasongarcia2140 Then you love a liar.
@jasongarcia2140
@jasongarcia2140 10 ай бұрын
@@AlbertaGeek ok. I can love what I love. I don't think he's lying. I disagree with you. He may be incorrect about his ideas but I completely disagree with you that he is lying.
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 10 ай бұрын
@@jasongarcia2140 _"I can love what I love"_ Didn't say you couldn't. _"I don't think he's lying"_ It doesn't matter what you think. It has been demonstrated to be the case in numerous videos critiquing him. Honestly, you sound more like a religious devotee than someone who is curious and inquisitive. Of course not everyone _has_ to be curious and inquisitive, I just find it a little sad when someone is not.
@everythingisalllies2141
@everythingisalllies2141 10 ай бұрын
@@AlbertaGeek And you are guilty of the same crime, loving BS and being fully convinced that its real science. I'm talking about the nonsensical BS claims of Einstein. You love it, but its pseudoscience, the greatest example of misinformation ever and the cause of a lot of other silly ideas. Never have so many lies been used to prop up a really morainic idea. But its all done to server a greater agenda, basically to get you to "trust the science". In this way governments can get you to do agree to almost anything.
@SobekLOTFC
@SobekLOTFC 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for being a light of scholarship in the darkness of the Tartaros of YT misinformation, Dr Miano 👏
@cindyreagan2884
@cindyreagan2884 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 10 ай бұрын
And thank you, Cindy!
@Robespierre-lI
@Robespierre-lI 10 ай бұрын
Pseudo-archeology really grinds my gears. As if it isn't challenging enough to get the public to understand the past
@letyvasquez2025
@letyvasquez2025 10 ай бұрын
Because ancient people weren’t working towards a future as they built our “past”
@jeffstrom164
@jeffstrom164 10 ай бұрын
To bad this guy is spreading a fallacy or two, himself, then.
@letyvasquez2025
@letyvasquez2025 10 ай бұрын
A fallacy which a scientist can correct. An author turned journalist who just asks questions will not make scientific or logical fallacies. They must first engage in the scientific process to make scientific errors which can then be corrected. Scientists are not tasked with resolving the problems of pseudoscience. A professional pseudoscientist must do that.
@jeffstrom164
@jeffstrom164 10 ай бұрын
@letyvasquez2025 this guy says he's an archeologist and teacher. It's his responsibility to spread truth not narrative.
@letyvasquez2025
@letyvasquez2025 10 ай бұрын
Teach him the truth so that he can properly share it. Unless you think teachers can’t continuing learning…
@jacksilver7701
@jacksilver7701 10 ай бұрын
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO DAVID THANKS
@gh0s7sama
@gh0s7sama 10 ай бұрын
Pseudo Archaeology can be summarized by saying it’s anything that uses the word “precision” more than 3-4 times per sentence.
@davidthomas8303
@davidthomas8303 9 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the way you approach this. It honestly feels like therapy when you feel surrounded by the scientifically illiterate. You do good work, and your name is David. Can't ask for better.
@ThrottleAddiction
@ThrottleAddiction 10 ай бұрын
*It's hard to undo the mess created by the likes of Erich von Däniken and his successor, Graham Hancock.*
@clippyPaper
@clippyPaper 10 ай бұрын
There was a really funny demonstration preformed by an English Archeologist demonstrating the absurdity of "Lay lines" and illusory pattern perception. The Archeologist posted a map of the UK with fixed points joined by lines,to create all sorts of Geometric shapes.... only to reveal the fixed points,were infact McDonald's Restaurants.
@Leeside999
@Leeside999 10 ай бұрын
Nice vid, Dr M. Please continue calling out the spoofers and their tactics.
@PlayWithYourThumb
@PlayWithYourThumb 10 ай бұрын
Nice coverage of the various "pseudos". The "precision" one is particularly apt.
@Saki630
@Saki630 10 ай бұрын
dam professor, you did a great job with this video. Everything was concise and well substantiated with the least amount of words necessary. You could have easily made this twice as long and even clipped in the scammers passing off pseudoscience for $$$. I wish you had some more exposure on other informative channels and even do a guest appearance in some shows with you easy to follow logic and well practiced dictation.
@SHDUStudios
@SHDUStudios 7 ай бұрын
Dr. Miano just looks exasperated and like he’s slowly going crazy for exposing all these conspiracies, I love the new style!
@halo.hunter5079
@halo.hunter5079 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarity, Doc. No nonsense. Well, what can one expect from a seasoned lecturer who has critiqued one too many papers 😁 Awesome job as always, Doc Miano 👌🏼
@GizzyDillespee
@GizzyDillespee 10 ай бұрын
He's pre-seasoned? Yikes, I hope the cannibals don't read the comments!
@rdawson808
@rdawson808 10 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video. I work in a... let's say not-well-understood field and am constantly encouraging people to define their terms well, to set out their arguments in a very logical way, etc. This video goes a long way to help me better understand your other great videos on pseudo-archeology. Those are my favs, btw.
@NinjaMonkeyPrime
@NinjaMonkeyPrime 10 ай бұрын
You touched on this briefly but there's a few videos on how to spot pseudoscience. Appeal to authority is one, but also there is the appeal to simplicity or "what makes sense". The Martymer had a good run down in some of the clues.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 10 ай бұрын
One thing that always bothers me is when people are like “Oh we can't build this type of thing today”, like we absolutely can it's just that we don't want to because we have different concerns. Like we could easily build something that dwarfs the Egyptian pyramids if wanted to, we regularly move dirt and rock in volumes that dwarf the pyramids, it's just that we don't have any Pharoah god kings around so we'd generally consider it a waste to build. Roman concrete is another example, like the reason why modern concrete isn't as durable as Roman concrete isn't because we don't know how to build it anymore, it's because we generally don't build structures to last for hundreds or thousands of years and so instead optimize our concrete for strength. Plus we've gotten so good at construction that it's now so cheap that it doesn't need to stand for very long, this is arguably a problem for the enviroment though. One that's really funny is cathedrals or European neoclassical architecture because like it's literally still being built or is extremely recent, like less than a century old.
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Our culture - and hence the impetus for our creating things - is premised upon = _"consumption."_ So we build things as you say with the intention that they will eventually be replaced by something else. The ancients however created things with a view they might "last forever". On the surface that of course is not practical. In so much however as things like religious beliefs etc. were their motivations for doing so then creating temples or tombs which might last centuries or longer served their purpose. Ancient goal: _"I want to be remembered"_ Modern goal: _"I am trying to make some money"_
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 10 ай бұрын
@@varyolla435 Yeah our thinking is fundamentally different from all cultures that came before us because we happen to live in the most unusual period in human history. This is why we often have a hard time understanding those cultures and why anyone interested in history needs to put a lot of effort into understanding past cultures on their premises. Our society is underpinned by ideas of progress, productivity and science that are completely new and would have been completely foreign to almost all preceeding cultures.
@sampagano205
@sampagano205 10 ай бұрын
I just can't get over the "we can't build the pyramids" when there is a bass pro shop inside of a massive glass pyramid in Tennessee.
@farzad6908
@farzad6908 10 ай бұрын
Great lighting, great sound, great content, this is a great channel! 1M subs, where you at!?!?!?
@alanmarshall4989
@alanmarshall4989 10 ай бұрын
Another brilliant one Dr. Miano. Keep em coming, hopefully some of the pseudos will watch your channel if they can tear themselves away from Ben's magic flute.
@royalapplepie
@royalapplepie 10 ай бұрын
Love your videos! Keep spreading knowledge ❤‍🔥
@donnisthran2812
@donnisthran2812 10 ай бұрын
I feel the same way.
@fairyprincess911
@fairyprincess911 10 ай бұрын
I like looking at antiquities with eyes open to see what was in the past. The pyramids around the world stump me.
@xt7519
@xt7519 10 ай бұрын
I think one of the points you made should be underscored...that being that the folks who are pushing these sorts of alternative theories often cherry pick their data, ignoring any data that contridicts their theory. One that I always think of is how they can talk about how some ancient piece of architecture could only be made using advanced tools or lost technology...while literally ignoring the pounding stones right next to half finished examples of the same thing. I've seen this over and over throughout the world, from the Middle East to the New World, to Asia to a certain woo shrouded island in the Pacific discovered by Europeans on an Easter morning. The evidence for how these things were made is there...but it is ignorned. There are plenty of experimental archeologiests would also be happy to demonstrate how to make these things, but they aren't consulted...instead, it's always 'experts' who, as you say, appeal to authority. I think a lot of these guys are playing logical fallacy bingo.
@shimrrashai-rc8fq
@shimrrashai-rc8fq 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, I suspect that's more because that they _don't_ notice the pounding stones because they do not have access to a suitably comprehensive set of photos. They probably go for something from a _pop_ magazine and that's it.
@PatrykPeylar
@PatrykPeylar 10 ай бұрын
It works both ways. That's why two camps formed.
@clamergy9166
@clamergy9166 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 10 ай бұрын
And thank you!
@capac2
@capac2 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this great educational service! So much misinformation floating around the internet. Sending this to my children! Please keep up the good work!
@sovietcanuckistanian
@sovietcanuckistanian 10 ай бұрын
Backwards reasoning is a common one pseudo archeological method, especially when paired with ley-lines or astronomy. Pseudo archeologists will assume that a site aligned with the solar equinox or some star or constellation and then backdate it to the last time it would have aligned with the site.
@mutualbeard
@mutualbeard 10 ай бұрын
Hyperdiffusionism has also been used to justify imperial ambitions by bringing "civilisation" to the "barbarians".
@barriolimbas
@barriolimbas 10 ай бұрын
Yes, discarding past theories is a cautionary tale, of putting too much validity in the current paradigm. Open mindedness, objectivity tempered with prudent skepticism should be attitude in science.
@julieblair7472
@julieblair7472 10 ай бұрын
The list deconstructing Precisionism blew my mind. I feel like my thought process just leveled up.
@birtybonkers8918
@birtybonkers8918 10 ай бұрын
Much of this was fine and good warning against dangers like seeing patterns where they don’t exist. I felt your bit on accuracy of artifacts made very dubious statements indeed. Mediaeval cathedrals are magnificent but not precise. The precision of an artificer is indeed limited by both their skill and the tool. This seems obvious, to me, at least. It seems absurd to argue, as I took you to be doing, that an artificer could achieve an extreme level of precision just through skill alone. The precision possible is constrained by the technique. In some cases the technique used does seem to be undetermined (e.g. for the famous stone pre-dynastic vases you featured), and I’d like someone to discover how they did it because the precision seems quite remarkable for the period they date from. Finally, the criticism of appeal to authority is wonderful but, dare I say, that is what archaeologists and historians themselves often fall back on when responding to unwelcome challenges from outsiders.
@sampagano205
@sampagano205 10 ай бұрын
Medieval cathedrals are extremely precisely engineered, they're blindly engineered, but they are the product of rigorous selection that creates an artificial impression of precision by virtue of the fact that if they screw up they just fall down in the process of construction.
@birtybonkers8918
@birtybonkers8918 10 ай бұрын
@@sampagano205 No, Sam. They are not precise in the same way that the vases featured briefly in the video are precise. Cathedrals did not have to be built to exact dimensions in order to be robust and to have the right aesthetic impact. Of course, the scale of the object is very different, but we are talking about very different orders of precision. I think you were perhaps interpreting precision differently from what I meant.
@cecileroy557
@cecileroy557 10 ай бұрын
Soo happy you're covering this!!!!
@alexvlk
@alexvlk 10 ай бұрын
Would love a follow up: what assumptions do we hold today may be more tentative than what they seem?
@aphexlane
@aphexlane 10 ай бұрын
Your videos are always a treat. Your lighting looks way better btw. Well done
@lukelee7967
@lukelee7967 10 ай бұрын
Precisionism as an argument makes no sense to me "This thing is made very well". Yeah, people in the past could do things well, what a shock. Ley lines, if you draw a line between two points on the globe, there's now a line there.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 10 ай бұрын
A lot of ley lines also just happen to demonstrate that populations were generally concentrated around the same lattitudes, almost as if the Earth has different biomes and some are more hospitable than others.
@raymondbrolly18499
@raymondbrolly18499 10 ай бұрын
Great upload again David. Keep up the good work / science.
@iainsmith6643
@iainsmith6643 10 ай бұрын
I've recently been working at Alfred Watkins old house. Being oldish I remember the ley line craze in the 70's. It was fun but you could draw loads with just an OS plan.
@mrjones2721
@mrjones2721 10 ай бұрын
The craze began in England, where the idea was that you could find ley lines by looking for lines that crossed lots of religious sites and/or bodies of water. Know what’s full of religious sites and bodies of water? England.
@molybdomancer195
@molybdomancer195 10 ай бұрын
I once had a project where I had to count all the archaeological sites on an OS map. It’s crazy how much stuff we have in the UK
@ALaModePi
@ALaModePi 10 ай бұрын
I really liked this video, not simply for the direct information it provides, but also for pointing out the methods and processes that accompany real scientific methods.
@Arrendle
@Arrendle 10 ай бұрын
Hear, hear! Love the video! Love the corduroy! I always squint when they say that legend/story is history with advanced technology. And I sigh when they read a description from said legend/story and then try to compare the description to an iPad, a cell phone, or a rocket. Don't fall for the "history in this ancient story some old guy wrote" trick!
@wilhelmschmidt7240
@wilhelmschmidt7240 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate this kind of video and I think you do a good presentation. Not everyone is equipped to recognize pseudoscience and by communicating these things you make the world a less annoying place for me to live in and that is greatly appreciated.
@jeromeguimond3487
@jeromeguimond3487 10 ай бұрын
Magister you’re a Keeper thanks for this one ! It’s a masterpiece. 🖖👍
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 10 ай бұрын
I want my fake archaeology to come with fake science. Why should I not have the whole experience?
@johnmccall4035
@johnmccall4035 10 ай бұрын
I'm really pleased you are making these videos and challenging assertions about ancient history that do not derive from the academic community. On precision cutting, it seems that one amateur website that has modelled the precision of ancient vases is responding to your prior criticisms by applying their techniques to more vases and also talking to universities about getting access to ancient collections with well-established provenance. In time that could move their assertions towards the standard of evidence you are demanding, but whether it does or not, it seems to me a positive reaction to your criticism and deserving of some respect. Is there a link you can give to papers that show high machining precision achieved in stonework of medieval origin? It would be helpful to compare that to precision achieved on ancient vases to counter suggestions that "high technology" is required to achieve that. Modern methods of manufacture do in fact turn out high volumes of everyday crockery items with higher precision than their traditionally made counterparts simply because it is more profitable to do so. Precision is an essential to efficient mass manufacture. So your argument that there would be no reason to apply such high technology to churn out everyday items is not necessarily valid.
@russellmillar7132
@russellmillar7132 10 ай бұрын
Read up on Michelangelo. While not medieval, he achieved amazing precision with hand tools during a time when no one will claim he used power tools. Fellows like Hancock and Ben from UnsupportedX often claim that the "mainstream" has the timeline wrong for civilization because the vessels they choose to measure for precision are pre-dynastic. My question for those dudes is: "If mainstream dating isn't accurate, how did you determine when, or during what period these pieces were made? Do you just accept mainstream methods when it's convenient for your chosen narrative? On that note Hancock has often said that Gobekli Tepe was build around 7000 years before the pyramids or Stonehenge. Doing some grade school math (given that he accepts mainstream dating of GT at 11,600 ybp), that means he also accepts the mainstream dating of the pyramids.
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer 10 ай бұрын
You might like to check out The Edmund de Unger Fatimid Rock Crystal Project which will lead you to a number of papers by E. Morero and J. Johns - eg. The Diffusion of Rock Crystal Carving Techniques in the Fāṭimid Mediterranean 2021 - Elise Morero The manufacturing techniques of Fatimid rock crystal ewers (10th-12th centuries AD) 2017 - Jeremy Johns, Elise Morero and this Seeking Transparency Rock Crystals Across the Medieval Mediterranean Edited by Cynthia Hahn and Avinoam Shalem This might also be interesting Rock Crystal and the Nature of Artifice in Ancient Rome 2020 - Patrick R Crowley
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer 10 ай бұрын
I found this on youtube Lecture - "The Magnificent Seven": The Great Fāṭimid Rock Crystal Ewers (Jeremy Johns ) which might help you to decide if Fatimid rock crystal is something you feel interested in.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 10 ай бұрын
Your last argument is circular, high precission in every day goods is only desireable because of our system of industrial mass production wherein standardization makes production cheaper. There is nothing inherent about every day goods that makes precision desireable, I don't particularly care if my pot is perfectly circular or looks the exact same as the one the last customer brought so long as I can cook food in it. You can't use the specific demands of an industrial society when talking about pre-industrial societies, that's like saying that the egyptians drilled for oil because oil is used in cars.
@the3mevrick
@the3mevrick 10 ай бұрын
in my country heads of space program , PM , various ministers likes to remind everyone now and then that we were the once who gifted rest of the world civilisation , science and everything else . 😅 but then we were tricked / enslaved and lost it all🤯🤯🤯🤯
@troydavis1
@troydavis1 10 ай бұрын
What country is that? Sounds like India and its self-obsession !!
@MetastaticMaladies
@MetastaticMaladies 10 ай бұрын
@@troydavis1 Some Turkish people are the same way too, but I suppose you could find a group of people like that from any and every couple try around the world lol
@krisb6643
@krisb6643 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding video, really interesting to break down these approaches and how they came about!
@esbendit
@esbendit 10 ай бұрын
If I were to add to your list, it would be catastrophism. Invoking spectacular catastrophies, that conveniently erase all evidence of their proposed advanced civilisation. Often ttwisting real events in the process. A favorite seems to be the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis, ignoring both that it has fallen out of favour and that in either case the climatic shifts at the end of the glacial would have been the real killer. In the more absurd end we have the mud flood guys. Finally they ignore that climatic changes are far more devastating to both ecosystems and society than a big rock falling or a bit of water.
@mrjones2721
@mrjones2721 10 ай бұрын
Those catastrophes wouldn’t destroy all the evidence anyways. They would drown or bury the evidence, but that’s it.
@esbendit
@esbendit 10 ай бұрын
@@mrjones2721 Definetly, but ancient civilisations needed to learn their skills from some hyperadvanced empire, they need some way to explain away the lack of any real evidence.
@OfficialGravityTester
@OfficialGravityTester 10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t many of your points on “pseudo-archaeology” be equally applicable to those seeking to debunk pseudo-archaeology? I’ve heard some really piss-poor arguments against some topics that don’t rely on science at all, but devolve quickly into personal attacks. “This person is an idiot and you are an idiot for being entertained by them,” the Potholer debate style. Don’t get me wrong, I am a big fan, Dr. Milano.
@premiersportingkc3443
@premiersportingkc3443 10 ай бұрын
Your debunking of bad archaeology videos are my favorite. I wish you would do more of them often, but I get they take a lot of research to do. Every few months I go through the playlist of all your debunking videos, wishing for a new one to be released, lol
@asbo_yo
@asbo_yo 10 ай бұрын
Except he didn't debunk a single thing in this video.
@theoptimisticskeptic
@theoptimisticskeptic 9 ай бұрын
Wow! That was a fantastic breakdown! This should be required viewing for all Science Communicators! Along with accompanying research and verification of course! Although some of this is just common sense if you think about it.
@MurrayHerts
@MurrayHerts 10 ай бұрын
I think exploring different ideas and "what if.." history is a lot of fun but I don't know why they don't just write it as fiction? is the whole concept of an alternative past not as sexy if they don't pretend it's true
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 10 ай бұрын
Thing is, these folks believe it. For whatever reason, our known ancestors _must_ have been too stupid to do anything more than eat, sleep, and reproduce. There _must_ have been a now-lost super-civilization that taught us everything. Where did this super-civilization get their knowledge? Either they were extraterrestrials, were taught by ETs, or were just that smart. I think about the idea of a first-of-its kind civilization that reached a level equivalent to many of the high-level ancient civilizations we know about, and how much influence it might have on other peoples. For some reason, I never come up with 'They gave the world everything.'
@michaelpleskovich3511
@michaelpleskovich3511 8 ай бұрын
Kudos to your courageous counterpoint to the groundswell of speculation supporting alternative human histories. Math, science, and facts are good tools to help us hold onto reality. Diffusion / Evolution :: Nature / Nurture.
@spiritualanarchist8162
@spiritualanarchist8162 10 ай бұрын
I used to believe in science .Not anymore !. The moment I saw an ant hill on vacation in the U.S,I noticed how these looked the same as the anthills in Europe .So obviously there used to be one global ant civilization that travelled the globe and told all the ancient ants how to bui;ld ant hills. Duh ! ;)
@Leeside999
@Leeside999 10 ай бұрын
And there's no way those ant hills were constructed with primitive ant tools. It's clear and incontrovertible proof of lost advanced ant technology.
@spiritualanarchist8162
@spiritualanarchist8162 10 ай бұрын
@@Leeside999 Obviously alien tech ants !
@mrdaft3272
@mrdaft3272 10 ай бұрын
This is probably one of your best videos in a while.
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open 10 ай бұрын
Keep shining the light on the pseudo-science cults.
@j.c.3800
@j.c.3800 10 ай бұрын
especially if you gain an audience with pier reviewers
@rikki1960
@rikki1960 10 ай бұрын
Re: iron smashing diamonds......I'm a jeweller, gemologist, qualified diamond grader & advanced diamond grader, registered valuer (registered valuers association president for 10 years) & I have a diploma in diamond technology.....yet idiots will argue with me that a diamond is unbreakable!! they all know better than me!! and yes I have got a hammer to a diamond and smashed it in front of the most obnoxious ones, not all diamond have value so I Iost near to zero in dollars & a diamond that I would never otherwise use - now argue with me:-)
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 10 ай бұрын
yes. That is why diamond cutters get ulcers........ = fear of making a mistake to cause the diamond to shatter. Hence they will meticulously study it before attempting to make cuts to yield specific shapes desired.
@rikki1960
@rikki1960 10 ай бұрын
@@varyolla435 Very true & thats why I didn't take that path in the industry; I don't have the patience because I would end up using a hammer!!!!!! The Koh-I-Noor would end up as the Koh-I-smashed-it.
@RedDarkBull
@RedDarkBull 10 ай бұрын
Iron can smash diamonds, why everyone keep confusing between hardness and britlilty, they are 2 different things
@Turdfergusen382
@Turdfergusen382 10 ай бұрын
Someone needs to take on Randall Carlson. He has a whole following of catastrophism dorks that’s believe his myths about geology. He mixes the facts with the fiction a lot.
@Turdfergusen382
@Turdfergusen382 10 ай бұрын
@PseudeaEpimetheus what should I be greatful for? Is it falsely spreading flood myths? Or his inability to understand some swamps in the Carolina’s? Or maybe is it how he found Atlantis for sure this time. Give me a break you quacks.
@AnswermanAnswerman
@AnswermanAnswerman 10 ай бұрын
So there was no ice age and sea level has not gone up 430 feet in 5000 years(17,000-11500), billions in climate science and core drilling is all faked. The Minoans did not didn’t die in a tidal wave like 150000 people in the Indian Ocean in 2004! Sorry simple fact that it happens, just like Japan that saved millions by being prepared before it happened, why because it had happen hundreds of times before! Resent studies have proven cosmic strike in the mid east destroyed a town around 5000 bc just like a certain story in bible!
@Oddball5.0
@Oddball5.0 10 ай бұрын
Correct. The people we call Minoans didn’t die in a tidal wave.
@nox5555
@nox5555 10 ай бұрын
@@Oddball5.0 did anybody claim that or do you just dont know what tidal wave means?
@Oddball5.0
@Oddball5.0 10 ай бұрын
@@nox5555 There was a post about it. It has now been deleted.
@bradabar2012
@bradabar2012 12 күн бұрын
"Pareidolia with Numbers" was my favorite phrase!
@MrPeteykins
@MrPeteykins 10 ай бұрын
My favorite example of pareidolia is the "Face on Mars™"
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 10 ай бұрын
The shadows do look very much like those of a giant sculpture. When you look at the more recent photo, you understand why.
@jasongarcia2140
@jasongarcia2140 10 ай бұрын
Hey what is that trademark for lol?
@shimrrashai-rc8fq
@shimrrashai-rc8fq 10 ай бұрын
@@julietfischer5056 Yes, it's a mountain. I wish it would be visited, though. It looks like an interesting mountain! Perhaps with water gulleys, so perhaps aliens, at least little alien microbes anyway, or fossils from them if nothing else, _are_ there just not in the way one might have thought. Not to mention its pop cult significance would seem to potentially gather enthusiasm for such a mission at least among those who are not wedded to an overly naive interpretation of it.
@MetastaticMaladies
@MetastaticMaladies 10 ай бұрын
@@shimrrashai-rc8fq You should watch Elderfox Documentaries. It will amaze you the places the rover has visited, places far more interesting than the mountain, at least in my opinion. That channel is a wealth of spectacular images and footage.
@Grabacuppacoffee
@Grabacuppacoffee 10 ай бұрын
Me too...but I watched Library of the untolds new mars video..... it's part of a bigger picture the alignments around it are identical to things here..check it out..
@scienceexplains302
@scienceexplains302 10 ай бұрын
*Principals of pseudo history* updated after this video 1. “Ancient” is all one time, and, when my pseudo history requires, all one place 2. every ancient person was *a)* an expert on everything ancient when it fits my pseudo history, but *b)* too stupid to pile up rocks when the pseudo history requires that, especially if the people are not White 3. If two things look alike in any way and their connection corroborates my idea, those two things have a common origin 4. Establish false dichotomies: “If evidence-based history is imperfect or can’t explain something yet, then my pseudo history must be true.” Don’t apply any of the scrutiny to my idea that I applied to the mainstream idea. 5. any “anti-establishment” idea corroborates any other anti-establishment idea, no matter how much they may contradict each other 6. Scholarly credentials are not valuable, but “author” and “researcher” without a relevant degree is
@brianjauch9958
@brianjauch9958 10 ай бұрын
Aliens, nothing but aliens.
@johngriffiths118
@johngriffiths118 10 ай бұрын
Aliens all the way down to the bottom
@brianjauch9958
@brianjauch9958 10 ай бұрын
Of our bottoms!@@johngriffiths118
@equesdeventusoccasus
@equesdeventusoccasus 3 ай бұрын
The 8:30 am angel I used to work at a facility that was fairly old and the windows of the various buildings were covered in wrinkled tinting. During part of the year if you walked outside at 8:30 am and looked at one specific building with no windows on the side in question, you would be treated to an image that looked very much like an angel sculpted in light. It was breathtaking and completely dependent on one worker opening the windows in her office when she arrived at a bit after 8 am each morning. This lady was completely unaware of the effect her open windows had upon the building near hers. There were many who claimed that the angel had supernatural origins, even though they knew it was simply a complex series' of solar reflections from the various buildings, one of which had windows open just enough to start the bouncing of light from one set of windows to another ending in something beautiful, but completely accidentally.
@chiznowtch
@chiznowtch 10 ай бұрын
As a of years, I can tell you that because of .
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks 10 ай бұрын
top comment
@Tony11442
@Tony11442 10 ай бұрын
That was funny 😂
@maidende8280
@maidende8280 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Critical thinking, always rare, seems to be purposely ignored in education these days.
@user-rv8wb1nl1b
@user-rv8wb1nl1b 10 ай бұрын
History for Granite used to be good , but now he is a bit whacky too . . . .Graham Hancock is the worst tho . ..
@ryann6067
@ryann6067 10 ай бұрын
History For Granite has created some excellent Ancient Egyptian architecture and engineering analysis videos. Im curious what have you seen in their content “is a bit whacky”?
@benchilders571
@benchilders571 10 ай бұрын
The last two hfg videos I watched both overstated the conclusion. I'm a big fan in the long run, and I think the work he is doing is valuable. The level of detail he has achieved in evaluating the structure of the Great Pyramid is awesome. But his evidence doesn't reach the level of certainty that he claims in the videos. Being skeptical, especially of one's own conclusions, is one of the most important aspects of the scientific method. I think he would benefit greatly from working with a team of people who challenged him
@ryann6067
@ryann6067 10 ай бұрын
@@benchilders571 100 percent agree with your opinion on HFG. And yeah, I had some questions regarding his conclusion on his last (fascinating) video on the so called pyramid shafts.
@theviperiscalling
@theviperiscalling 10 ай бұрын
Invoking graham hancock at the same time as HFG kinda implies theyre remotely on the same spectrum
@lukelee7967
@lukelee7967 10 ай бұрын
Well, the basic pseudo-archaeology argument is what the hosts of the podcast It's Probably Not Aliens call "how move big rock?".
@TankUni
@TankUni 10 ай бұрын
I saw a new advance in Great Pyramid woo recently. On twitter someone had claimed that by raising/lowering the blocks of granite in the portcullis to the Kings Chamber, the pyramid could have generated noise, if not actually speak. When I asked for proof, I was of course referred to the work of Christopher Dunn. No stone left unturned, I guess.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 10 ай бұрын
Because of course it is common practice to block off instruments with several tons of stone, that obviously makes for great acoustics.
@brendan1904
@brendan1904 10 ай бұрын
Did you get a new camera or lighting? The shots in this video look amazing!
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 10 ай бұрын
Bravo!! I agree 100%. My only problem is when archeologists fall into similar traps by claiming every unexplained ancient structure was for "ritual" purposes, without proof. I remember laughing when Tony Robinson would roll his eyes on "Time Team" every time "ritual" would come up. Of course some structures were probably used for ritual purposes, no doubt. But not every unexplained or seemingly strange structure.
@Summalogicae
@Summalogicae 10 ай бұрын
It seems to me in this case that their archaeological skills can be immaculate but that their standards of logical inference are illicit. That is, they are making claims that do not follow, even though their archaeological methods may be trustworthy and proper.
@mrjones2721
@mrjones2721 10 ай бұрын
That’s an old saying that all anthropologists and archaeologists are aware of and now know to avoid. Even on Time Team, it’s very, very rare for someone to suggest something has a ritual use unless the context suggests there’s legitimately a ritual use.
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 10 ай бұрын
@@mrjones2721 -- Well, I cannot prove you wrong because I haven't seen "ritual" used as an explanation for awhile. But I have seen it on Time Team as late as 2013, which wasn't that long ago.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 10 ай бұрын
“Ritual” does not solely mean religious, in anthropology every single action that does not have a directly practical purpose is considered a ritual. Graduation ceremonies for example are an example of a ritual and so graduation caps have a primarily ritual purpose. When you start looking you'll discover that human culture and life is filled and dominated by rituals because rituals serve important social functions.
@nox5555
@nox5555 10 ай бұрын
@@ironcladranchandforge7292 well most of todays structures have some ritual function...
@Callum679
@Callum679 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting, would enjoy videos on each with specifics examples!
@raina4732
@raina4732 10 ай бұрын
Just hand an inexperienced person a violin and tell them to play a violin concerto. They won’t even be able to play a single note! On the same instrument and expert can make magic. (I wrote this comment on one of UnchartedX’s videos, and he deleted it! Too offensive I guess.) Great video! And wonderful picture quality!
@raina4732
@raina4732 10 ай бұрын
I gave him a few more examples like: some oil paint and a blank canvas will never allow an amateur to recreate the Mona Lisa. And I asked him to carve ANY of the “very crappy” vases out of an easy stone, with any hand tool of his choosing, (this is a very easy challenge compared to the ones he gives) and if HE personally cannot recreate a “crappy” work of art, then he has no right challenging others to do even harder tasks according to his perfection and judgment.
@Tony11442
@Tony11442 10 ай бұрын
Well done
@sarahlynn7807
@sarahlynn7807 10 ай бұрын
great video! This one was fun!
@wheeze_sanchez
@wheeze_sanchez 10 ай бұрын
This guy is such a happy warrior on the side of reason
@AnyoneCanSee
@AnyoneCanSee 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic stuff. Keep up the good work.
@imallrightme7336
@imallrightme7336 8 ай бұрын
You have ruined Gragham Hancock for me. Ive read all his books I used to love listening to him on podcasts and tv. Now i feel cheated out of €300 on all his books.
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 8 ай бұрын
Hancock nevertheless thanks you for your "contribution" to him........ - though he rest assuredly cares not one whit for your now "angst" at having been duped I'm afraid. 🤷
@YC-ls4yx
@YC-ls4yx 6 ай бұрын
He certainly did not demonstrate how ancient Egyptians built the pyramids while debunking the conspiracy. If you take his words for it the Egyptians cut those stone blocks with stone, which would take so long that the aliens would come down to help.
@JayCWhiteCloud
@JayCWhiteCloud 5 ай бұрын
@@YC-ls4yx ???...Dr. Miano did not intend to debate the many traditional methods for constructing the pyramids when sharing this video. These methods are still debated among professionals in the field, as it is unclear which methods actually may have been used. There is no mystery here for those who have worked in traditional stone quarrying and carving...
@Alexander1005
@Alexander1005 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping it 💯
@bofpwet9500
@bofpwet9500 10 ай бұрын
Some of your lines are pure gold, great vid, work and arguments as always. Concerning the pyramids I always say no civilisation could have build any huge stone spherical monuments for exemple, like we don't see any montains that are top down, they all look alike because of physic, not culture..
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