worlds championship 8 29 2020 Five Gaited edit

[@b_o_y_e_r_s]

Oh my lord! This is NOT abuse! A American saddlebred moves like this naturualy!!!!!!

[@Sqrlyshrly]

Why do the riders all look like villains in an old silent movie?

[@dawnaustin4556]

That’s the look! Old school.

[@lc285]

Because they are. A horse owner who cuts tendons for tail show, and uses chains as torture to raise their gate unnaturally are in fact, evil villains.

[@dawnaustin4556]

I agree it’s wrong and I don’t know why they thing it has to be done. I owned a saddlebred a few years back. She naturally carried her tail up Like Arabians do. They are a stunning breed and should be shown as they are.

[@pattykake7195]

@@lc285 You are right,… it’s disgusting.

[@amandaturner8928]

Because they ARE.😶

[@barbarabrown9269]

I am perplexed at these commenters who insist Saddlebreds are not sored like the Big Lick Walkers., I was very heavy into the saddle horse show world, both 3 and 5 gaited Saddlebreds and Walkers of all kinds, back in the 1960s. I was a junior, and trainers loved show casing juniors for selling their stock. Well! All those horses were very much sored, plus they were hidden behind show curtains at the stables to keep people from seeing those horrid heavy blankets , with high tail set strapped on in 100° heat for hours and hours and hours. Those horses were so miserable and tortured they were dangerous to approach in a stall. At home they remained with long toes, (no stacks) and beads or chains permanently strapped on their patterns during short turn out periods. And in the stalls which they lived in 24/7 unless ridden. Those chains were never removed. Some people didn’t use them to show, mostly the amateur and junior ranks, but the open and professionals sure did, Nothing to defend the Big Lick Walkers - that is just a whole abomination. But you are deluded or spinning a tale if you insist these Saddlebreds are treated without untold misery,

[@beelinekhan460]

thank you for your clear statement!!!

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

my son trained in a saddlebred barn i was there aplenty for years they had LOTS of show horses they were NEVER sored nor had heavy blankets on; none wore pastern chains 24/7...

[@amandaturner8928]

Barbara, thank you for your honesty in telling it like it is. Tragically so many people would rather close their eyes and declare it never happens. And the horses pay the price. I can only shake my head as the deluded say the horses have a great life, it is the most unnatural looking spectacle I've ever seen. Thank you again for your truthful comments.👏❤️🇦🇺

[@lg1882]

CC Thank you so so much for your honesty Barbara.

[@rastagirlnz]

Very true..... It's horrific and I've never riden a horse and even I can see it'swrong...

[@lynplug861]

I look at this and say “how can a horse be so beautiful,” and I look at the big lick and say “how an they do this to such a beautiful horse”

[@dnr2089]

What’s “the big lick?”

[@lynplug861]

@@dnr2089 google it, it’s a very cruel method of making a Tennessee walking horse high step in a very unnatural gait, by applying heavy chains around their fetlocks after their fetlocks have been doused in chemicals and the chain hits the sore and makes them high step to get away from the pain

[@carolmartin2503]

@@lexiii5541 These gorgeous animals are very UNCOMFORTABLE with what those riders are doing = or WHATever they're trying to do ! HOW CAN THIS BE ALLOWED TO GO ON ?= It is absolute abuse to these beautiful animals..... NO TRUE HORSEMAN WOULD approve of such cruelty! They can defend it all they want with their excuses ~~~Given a choice and a voice = they would cry how much each & every horse hates their mouths in such tight reins, some being yanked this and that way ........ NOTHING ABOUT THIS IS NICE ...... IT IS VERY ABUSIVE ! Makes me sick to Those poor animals ! I would like to

[@michelleford7392]

These are Saddlebreds, not TWHs. Saddlebreds don’t do the big lick. You have the wrong gait/wrong breed.

[@WaltonFA]

Better to remain silent and thought to be a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt. True horse people don’t harm horses.

[@lunastargazer4766]

It's almost like on every saddle seat video people are fighting about it being abuse, but it's not. I ride saddle seat and the horses at my barn are not being abused. If you want to talk about abuse, then talk about Big Lick shows, not saddle seat. There are bad people in all disciplines, but everyone associated with Big Lick shows are evil people. If your going to argue with me, please don't. I didn't write this comment to argue, I just wrote this hoping that some people will change their minds about saddle seat :)

[@alinareybey3263]

Please go watch Raleigh’s video.

[@smillsy71]

A Saddlebred without a set tail will not pin. A Saddlebred without weighted shows will not pin. No Saddlebred has that high of an action without the weighted shoes and the stretchies in training. No, in my experience, their legs are not rubbed with toxic chemicals. But there is nothing natural about the gaits presented. And the fact that none of the of the riders can barely stay in the saddle just goes to show that these horses are not trained at saddle horses at all. The meaning of Saddle Horse was a horse that was comfortable to ride for long periods of time.

[@sandysimon7313]

All these so called owners and trainers and showers need to be jailed and not allowed horses ever again!

[@user-lq5dc2kp3f]

Agree. Its a old habit that is very cruel and hasnt been allowed to die out. Now it needs to stopped.​@@sandysimon7313

[@amandaturner8928]

Let's see these horses ridden with light contact in a plain snaffle and the riders sitting in the correct position over the centre of gravity on the horses. Let's see how "natural" all this really is. C'mon! 🐎🇦🇺🐎

[@NuggieIsMissing]

You do realize that the saddle doesn't allow the rider to sit like they would in a dressage, hunt, or western saddle right? Their head set is more up than forward so it is not like they can be in the same position as other disciplines.

[@amandaturner8928]

@@NuggieIsMissing Yes I do realise that, it is all artificial. I would like to see these horses ridden naturally which is exactly my point. Whatever the discipline be it pleasure, dressage, jumping etc. None of these throw the horses off their natural balance in any way as shown here. And as for the artificial changes to the horses (tails broken) that is nothing more than cruelty.

[@itsallgood4093]

@@amandaturner8928 The tails are not broken, just FYI. And there is not a single discipline of riding that there isn't something wrong with, at least according to the ones that ride a different way. You even find people who think Liberty work is bad. Saddleseat is no better or worse than other ways of riding, it's just some of the riders that are bad.

[@amandaturner8928]

@@itsallgood4093 FYI, I don't believe a word you said defending the saddle seat set. There are abuses in every walk of life and in all horse disciplines to our shame, but this doesn't stop calling it out because it's WRONG ALWAYS. And in this instance the whole way of training, artificial "enhancements" etc is widespread, accepted as normal, which it simply is not. End of.🐎🇦🇺

[@itsallgood4093]

@@amandaturner8928 I don't give a rat's ass if you believe me or not. I know how they are treated and trained and you don't. Have a good day.

[@SunnyAmaterasu]

Okay, so I gotta say this looks really weird to me, sometimes even horrific. I have a couple questions about saddle seat riding, because it seems to be the polar opposite to a bunch of principles I've been taught about riding horses... 1. Why are the horse all walking so hollow? This probably bugs me the most. It looks like saddleseat riders ride their horses with an extremely hollow back and scary ewe necks. Why? Where does the horse carry their rider's weight? How smooth are your horses neck and back and stomach muscles? Cause if I'd ride one of the ponies I know in this position they'd become extremely tense and develop back problems with this hollow frame... So why do you do this and where do the horses carry the wight then and what about long term problems if they're being ridden like that for 20+ years? 2. Why are the riders often sitting so far back? Granted, I've seen this point executed way worse than in this video but I still gotta wonder. I learnt that the lower part of a horse's spine is quite sensetive when it comes to weight, meaning I've been taught to never put a saddle or rider weight there. Why do some saddle seat riders sit on this very sensitive part? I've heard before that it is supposedly to allow the shoulders to move freely but this works with other well fitted saddles as well that don't sit so far back on the horse's back. Again, not really in this video but I see it a lot in saddle seat videos or photos. 3. Are the tails nicked? From what I read in several sources it seems still common in the US for these shows and this breed in particular and when I look up (young) saddlebreds in the pasture they seem to have a more normal tail carriage than this. I'm going to be honest, nicking tails is disgusting. I'm glad it's banned under animal cruelty where I live and in many other countries. Shame that this is still not recognized as an act of animal cruelty in the US. 4. Why do the riders sit like this? How does this seat help and benefit the horse's movement? Same for the hight hands? Why? You can also see a couple times where the riders yank on these massive shank bits and... yikes. I'd love actual studies in particular if someone has these that examine the (longterm) effects of the hollow frame and weight placement in this particular style of riding versus others, but I couldnt find any. Now, if any friends of saddleseat riding that say this is all good and has it's reasons could provide some to prove their point that would be grant.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

u sound rather pugnacious

[@tatorkator9901]

the saddles are further back because the horses shoulders are different than the ponies shoulders you ride and the horse naturally carries its head higher because of its shoulder. in order for the horse to be able to preform this gait, which is natural, it has to lift its shoulders. if the saddle is more forward then the saddle sits on the horses shoulders it can actually cause pain. more explained in the second video. 2 yr old in pasture not being asked to preform. is also unfit on uneven ground. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXKleniLjpqkg5Y how to fit a gaited saddle on a horse kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn_Cc4OJo5J8d7c for the tails. some are cut. it is not normal and usually done by unscrupulous individuals when done for competitive purposes. tail nicking is a veterinary procedure done by a veterinarian. the horse retains all ability to use its tail when set and after it is let down. its probably most comparable to wearing braces or retainers but not finishing the treatment and letting your teeth go back the way they were.

[@amandaturner8928]

Its just abuse, pure and simple.

[@raven7146]

@@amandaturner8928 how can you say that over a type of riding you likely know nothing about and have never ridden? It’s not abuse, this breed naturally moves this way. I am a saddle seat rider, and I would never abuse my horse. If it’s abuse, how come these horses look happy and content? You’re likely mixing this up with soring, which is done to Tennessee walking horses.

[@lexymccabe6873]

@@amandaturner8928 it’s not abuse but I can see why you would think it is, you might be getting confused with the big lick and they sore there horses which is abuse but saddleseat the horses gaits are naturally like that

[@mcoguyaj]

Do they all wear long coats so they can hide that they are sitting on the horses spine or are they all flashers.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

everyone who RIDES a horse is sitting on the spine; where do you WANT them to sit? on the withers? on the rump? on the tail?

[@NuggieIsMissing]

Shadbellies are just common to wear in saddleseat

[@dakotafloweremaker1834]

Some of these horses did not have very kind riders. I am a saddleseat rider myself and my barn is nothing like this. I just want to make it clear that not every saddleseat barn is like this

[@11buleria]

The Dark Past lives on, sadly

[@karenrubenmoss9307]

Stunning horses but sadly I can't believe they abuse them in this way. It's the most unnatural way for the horse to move and the tails, so sad.

[@emmae4795]

They aren’t abused

[@lilamartz5904]

these horses are saddle breds they have a natural gate not the same thing as big lick 😁

[@asaddleseatrider9426]

The tails are natural :3

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

@@asaddleseatrider9426 no they are not

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

u are confusing saddlebreds with tennessee walking horses they are the ones that r horribly abused not the saddlebreds

[@asheyeakin545]

BTW, to get the horses tail in that unnatural position, they cut the tendons under the tail. Horses tails aren't supposed to bend like that. That alone is abuse in my book.

[@kristinetwenty9374]

The tails and tendons are NOT cut. Years ago, the tails were slightly nicked- when trainers and owners found out it caused damage long term, the horses now were sets ( like a horse bra) and the tails are tied up into place. You can clearly see, even in this video the gray mare has a shoestring tied in her tail..and BTW Arabians tails curl over their back with zero effort or set...as do most Morgans and Saddlebreds...so yes they do " bend like that"

[@brigittefarmer4400]

Thats all abuse ! Chemical creames at the forelegs , the weight on the hoofs ...and on videos you can see how brutally they get trained!!! The bits and straight reins ....terrible ...this is just hurting horses .They making horses just to big toys for people....there is nothing more naturally!!!

[@asheyeakin545]

@@kristinetwenty9374 yes, they very much ARE cut. Trying to defend this is gross fyi.

[@kristinetwenty9374]

BtW Ashley, NO, they are not cut, they are nicked for 3 & 5 Gaited horses only. The reason being that when show horses got older the muscles over relaxed and the horses could not defecate properly. Additionally, every single breed has an abuse issue- I'm not defending this, I am correcting your assumption which is not based on fact. If you are going to attack Saddlebred, then you better add Quarter Horses, Arabians, Warmbloods Paso Finos and any Olympic Jumper!!! The list is long and disgusting. So get off your soap box and do some good instead of acting like a know it all brat.

[@brigittefarmer4400]

@@kristinetwenty9374 Olympic Jumpers and Racings are from Training as well barbaric...or all high Jumpers or even Dressage what they doing...but the big lick horses are ready after some rounds in the Showarena going like Quarter/Painhorses after a Quarter Mile Race just between the the best anf fastest!!! The Top Sport Reining Industrie as well what they doing to the horses and calling it Horsesport !

[@WaltonFA]

Natural as women wearing high heels or having 1000lbs of weight dropping from a height of six feet onto two front feet.

[@ratherbfishing455]

Women want to look lady like.

[@karenlazenby6440]

Which already carries 80% of their weight along with a rider and tack, jumping is just as cruel.

[@NuggieIsMissing]

You’re confusing saddleseat with big lick Tennessee walkers

[@lg1882]

cc So true

[@alinareybey3263]

@@NuggieIsMissing saddle seat is still abuse in some aspects.

[@cutiecake436]

My mom owned a saddlebred and competed and her horse was well taken care of. There is a difference between SB(Saddlebred) shows and TWH(Tennessee walker horse) shows. These horses have a natural gate and are well cared for, I'm sure of that.

[@cutiecake436]

@@mayonnaise7084 yeah I'm not saying abuse doesnt happen, but not everyone in the industry is bad.

[@carolmartin2503]

@@cutiecake436 Maybe not 'bad' BUT they're causing much pain with the unnatural positions, bits, and the junk to make them look like imaginary 'Black Beauties' ! It is abuse right in public showing how mutilated the poor animals are ! SHAME ON THEM! THEY SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT THEY MAKE THEIR HORSES GO THROUGH. Yes I am a horsewoman and horse lover ! This should be outlawed !!!

[@eyesea123]

then why are the same riders riding in comp's.

[@amandashimel5664]

Maya these horses are Saddlebreds not big lick horses. They really are bred for this NATURALLY. I have NEVER seen anyone sore a saddlebred. Lameness is completely obvious when a horse trots so trainers would have no incentive to do this to horses who are shown at the trot in the ring

[@eyesea123]

@@amandashimel5664 You may not see what shapes these horses to do what they do. Don't be ignorant. Same evil riders, means the same trainers. Wake the fuk up

[@sarahscott1253]

I cannot believe the ignorance of the vast majority of these commenters. Sort of reminds me of Politics. The ignorance of the Saddlebred breed, training practices, etc. shown here is stunning. I've ridden and shown Saddlebreds for decades and I certainly wouldn't have if there had been soring, abuse and stacks on their feet like the Tennessee Walkers. And look at their ears! They are all mostly forward. If a horse is in pain or miserable, they would not be looking through the bridle like that, happy to do their job! Get educated folks!

[@JuanitaThompson-cm5tq]

Thank you

[@years3604]

To the people in the comments saying how these horses are "sorn" you cannot sore a high trotting breed that naturally picks up it's hooves, and the saddle bred horse will be bred either as a show horse which is in the video, or a sport horse that can be used for show jumping, hunt seat, dressage and more since this is a very flexible and smart breed, as, it may not have the skill to pick up its hooves as high for the saddle seat discipline. Just like an NBA football player compared to a high school kid on the football team, the skill and training levels are on different levels. Do not confuse the saddle seat for "big lick." That abusive "hobby" makes saddle seat look bad, of course every discipline can be abusive in their own ways if not done right. I have ridden in saddle seat for 10 years now and I can answer any questions people may have if asked nicely as I can agree this does look very different compared to a quarter horse :)

[@dnr2089]

Some of these guys are terrible riders!!! Hunched up and bouncing around like a sack of potatoes! And some shocking sawing on the reins! Horrible sight 😡

[@radchannel5494]

Yes, but they can charm the performance out of these animals like magic and you will never be able to do so. This is the top of the stack, I would be honored to get to have a chat with any of these professionals that you so decry.

[@janinecarson8380]

@@radchannel5494 I'm just a layman when it comes to this particular equestrian pursuit but I'm puzzled. You acknowledge the bad horsemanship and then go on to praise it. Maybe I'm missing something but that just doesn't make any sense.

[@pennywatkins6754]

you're very uneducated. they are all great riders. obveously,you know nothing about riding. They ride like this for a reason. you should get to know the saddle seat industry before making yourself look like a fool. this is a very hard sport. i ride saddleseat and won us nationls 2x on my first year in a class of 18. this sport isn't something everyone can do, its expensive. and extremely difficult. they bounce on purpose. its called racking. its nearly impossible to post when they rack.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

if u want perfect riders watch the equitation classes instead.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

@@janinecarson8380 this class is all about the horse not the riders performance. if u want a perfect rider then watch the saddleseat equitation classes; theyre picture perfect riders!

[@equestrianteam1684]

O shit that is sick

[@asheyeakin545]

That reminds me a lot of big lick. It is not a natural gait for horses to be lifting their hooves that high even if it is a strongly gaited horse. I don't see the chains that big lick use though so how would they be soring them to lift their feet that high when the chains are key in soring because they hit the painful area and make the horse jerk their legs up. I'm perplexed.

[@Kimberly00000]

Saddlebreads do actually walk that way

[@asheyeakin545]

@@Kimberly00000 I've seen many many many many in my time of horse keeping and I've never seen a single one with with a natural high step gate to that extreme. Notice how the others in the "natural gate" class step normally? That's not they're natural gate in the slightest and anything that isn't natural and a human forced them to have that gate is wrong. Not to mention, to get the tails in those, once again, unnatural positions to sit in the tail harness, they cut the tendons under the tail. That alone is animal abuse.

[@wendallan]

Weird spectacle 😕😳🤔

[@anna_maria_79]

I hate it how that old man pulls the whole time the horses mouth-these people are just there for the kick and the prestige and don’t care about the inmost being of those creatures...

[@dnr2089]

The old geezer on the grey can’t ride for toffee! He’s all hunched up and constantly jabbing at the horse’s mouth! 😡

[@radchannel5494]

Tell Merrill Murray that. He'd probably agree with you but his horses have deservedly won on the green shavings for years....

[@catehutchinson9945]

Agreed- he was off balance the whole time. I think he’s past his time.

[@eponawoods2798]

Its a style ! Try it!! The horse is judged not the riders style!!! Dont criticize so smuggly till you know how yourself!!

[@karenlazenby6440]

Theyre ALL terribile riders!

[@pennywatkins6754]

@@karenlazenby6440 then how did they get to nationals? i ride saddleseat and I'm a 2x us national champion at the age of 13 and I know more than you. they ride like this for a reason. they are all fantastic riders. get to know the saddleseat industry before judging and making yourself look like a fool.

[@myronschabe]

These are beautiful horses but OMG this saddleseat is bizarre...down to the organ music!! Different strokes for different folks. I did pick the top two winners though not knowing anything about these 5 gaters - they were the most balanced looking. I sure do hope these horses are treated well.

[@dnr2089]

Yes it’s totally weird. And some of them don’t look like good riders. Bouncing and hunched over and elbows stuck up to their ears!

[@carolmartin2503]

@@lexiii5541 Alexyia = DO THESE BEAUTIFUL HORSES LOOK 'HAPPY' AND 'CONTENT' TO YOU ? THEY LOOK QUITE UNCOMFORTABLE AND AGITATED TO US HORSE LOVERS !!! MAYBE THEY'RE TREATED WELL IN THE STALL B U T NOT IN THE CONDITION THEY'RE MADE TO PERFORM IN shame on the owners ! They should have the same crap done to them !!! You actually think they "LOVE THEIR JOBS" It looks to me like they can't wait to get done ! None look like they're enjoying themselves.

[@charlottebonnie5320]

@@carolmartin2503 I agree and I don't know why they may not relax during their pause while riders and saddles are taken away. And I bet that they hate the riders whose backs are too stiff for riding even when they do slow gait.

[@amandaturner8928]

@@lexiii5541 sure, treated very well until no further wins. Its absolute abuse. Yeah I've had horses for forty plus years and you will never convince me these horses would not have been put through pain to move like this, oh and let's break their tales too while we're at it. Thank God we don't have this in Australia.

[@raven7146]

@@amandaturner8928 Tell me how you think it’s abuse, even though you probably know nothing about the discipline and you’re just judging over the looks of it. How is this abuse? I am a Saddleseat rider, and I ride at a farm that also has other Saddleseat horses that move like this. There is no soring involved, it’s either natural, because we have saddlebreds (a breed that moves like this naturally, even as a newborn foal) and we have Arabians which can do this. We put shoes on them, but not giant stack shoes. When they are ridden, the rider sits at the back of the saddle to get them to sit down in the back end and pick up in the front. I can almost guarantee you’re one of these people who thinks that this, and big lick are the same thing. Big lick is abuse, and it’s done with Tennessee walking horses. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZiUZ6FqrLytisk but the type of riding in this video however, is not the same thing.

[@carolk60]

I have never seen such stressed horses, shame on all those involved! Sell your soul for money and make an innocent animal suffer to gratify your vanity - shame - shame on you all

[@brigittefarmer4400]

All of them are stressed in all showclasses in all championships! Terrible! I'm Austrian /Europe...and I bred Apha & Aqha even Eurpopean and Futurity Champs in Halter & Performance Classes ....but the horses never felt pain !!! Like this here! Disguasting, the winner horse is totally ready!!!

[@retiredcatlady]

,i agree. They put ginger in the rectum too

[@marialundqvist9444]

Why are they changing the horses tail!?? Thats abuse! When humans do this to horses its just cruel. The beauty is gone.

[@maggiekeziah5095]

This is SADDLESEAT which is all natural. BIG LICK is completely different

[@LiMaking]

​@@maggiekeziah5095 It's not all natural. they nick the tail and they have the shoes on to "help" the horse to gait, bc some of them don't do it without the special shoes on.

[@christmaslover8221]

@@LiMaking it is

[@LiMaking]

@@christmaslover8221 what "is"? bc all natural it is not.

[@christmaslover8221]

@@LiMaking it’s not abuse you idiot

[@kristoffw.762]

The tendions in their tails are cut, so that the tail can be brought up against their backs to cause a cascading fall effect. Very cruel

[@jasminechen009]

no. some use tail braces and some use fake tails. in my experience, i used fake tails which tie on the top of their tail to create that waterfall look

[@charlottebonnie5320]

Yes, I have read about this in the German pony and horse magazine ("Pony-Post"/"Freizeit im Sattel"/1958 - 2008) which was edited by a German lady (Ursula Bruns) who was under the top-ten in a 100 miles-trail competion and who was a friend of Linda Tellington-Jones, and at that time I was shocked about this as I am today.

[@Saddle_Editz]

@@jasminechen009 yes I do saddleseat as well and I completely agree

[@jasminechen009]

wow im shocked at the amount of peope who think this is abuse. sure, some of it i dont agree with, but these horses are very well trained. whoa: stop/slow down whup trot: trot (so they dont canter) easy: slow down canter hey: rack/slow gait they know what all these mean, and their tails arent cut. some barns use tail braces, but in my personal experience, no one has. the riders are trained to ride the horses correctly and its not much different from other types of riding. also, no one sores their horses legs. some horses require a heavy shoe to bring the leg up, but most act natuarlly. slow gait and rack are a special gait that only some ASB can do, and they are '5 gaited'

[@JuliGavaldon]

The pouring sweat off of these horses is a dead giveaway that they are in excruciating pain. This "sport" is nothing less than a barbaric act.

[@amandaturner8928]

ABSOLUTELY. I agree 100%👏 It breaks my heart.

[@chasea.williams6025]

You are so full of crap its not even funny. Good God get a clue.

[@itsallgood4093]

They are not sweating because of pain, they are sweating because it's August in Kentucky there!! So that's a stupid thing to say!

[@amandaturner8928]

@@itsallgood4093 We have hot weather in Australia don't worry, but there's a difference in sweating through heat and through stress. Eyes say it all.🐨

[@amandaturner8928]

@@chasea.williams6025 Reply if you must, but don't take my God's name in vain thank you.

[@ColtonNattin]

Good looking Athletes very nice

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

where was the cantering or walking? i didnt see those gaits at all...not great coverage...

[@samanthazaragoza6880]

Meredith Grey ❤❤

[@Mayuki666]

This is just so wrong, why cant they see that?!?!!!!! Poor horses, nothing is natural about this 😒

[@lz-asmr3634]

That Grey was gorgeous but unfortunately had a terrible rider haha

[@radchannel5494]

Ha ha ha, the joke's on you. He has brought many champions to the winner's circle and was doing so before you were born. The proof is in the pudding. Tell you what, you produce your horse that wins at Louisville in 2021, put the video out here, and we will admire your immaculate horsemanship.

[@maggiekeziah5095]

@@radchannel5494 Absolutely!!

[@pennywatkins6754]

you're very uneducated. they are all great riders. obveously, you know nothing about riding. They ride like this for a reason. you should get to know the saddle seat industry before making yourself look like a fool. this is a very hard sport. I ride saddleseat and won us nationls 2x on my first year in a class of 18. this sport isn't something everyone can do, its expensive. and extremely difficult. you're a fool for that comment.

[@looneytunes105]

It's not an equitation class.

[@GFSTaylor]

@@looneytunes105 That's doesn't matter. He was bouncing around like a sack of potatoes and hanging onto the reins. Both are uncomfortable and even damaging to the horse. Even if the competition is about the horse, such poor riding should be penalised.

[@amandaturner8928]

It is so sad to see the comments defending this cruelty to these beautiful horses. I've owned and trained horses for 45 years and cannot understand the mentality of anyone, let alone those who consider themselves horse lovers, defending this brutality. Ok here in Australia we have abuse as every country does much to my shame but THIS!!! A showcase that actually celebrates it??? Pure evil. And nothing or no one will ever persuade me otherwise. You only have to look at the horses eyes.💔🐎🇦🇺

[@amandaturner8928]

@@wesley7376 why what? Look at their eyes? Well look at them, they aren't just hot, they are distressed. There's a big difference.

[@amandaturner8928]

@@wesley7376 you are more than entitled to your opinion but everything in their body language tells me the opposite, they are tense and ill at ease. So we disagree here.

[@janetlongley8011]

Sad ……..hard to watch

[@hayleyh5752]

Revolting ! Revolting people that participate in this horrid abuse.. truely disgusted and I am on the opposite side of the world ! I have only heard about this in the last month… these participants, trainers - if you call them that, vets, judges, riders, owners, should all be tied to a tree in the bush, along with each member of their family - and left there, this makes me so angry !

[@salinabeachy6379]

AGREED!!!!!!!

[@elaineluikart5459]

In America rich people do as they please. They abuse their animals, their employees, their tenants in rental apartments, anything for the almighty dollar and pay republican congressional representative s and Supreme Court Justices to keep it that way.

[@brittanyritenour4695]

Wow that bay looks so much like Khalessi

[@beelinekhan460]

cripples in the making! everything for the vanity of humanity! miserable horsemanship, lousy riders! horse sweating after a few rounds! extremely violent bits, the saddle on the weakest point on the spine, cripples in the making!

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

ive never seen any saddlebred show horses that were cripples. I had a 16 yr old 5 gaited saddlebred owned him for many years; he was NEVER crippled; had a beautiful topline and back and perfect feet also.

[@itsallgood4093]

@@Lauren-vd4qe Most of these people have no idea what they are talking about. Saddlebreds are wonderful horses!

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

@@itsallgood4093 have u ever noticed that plenty of saddlebred owners also have doberman dogs? both are beautiful; elegant, energetic, showy, obedient and easy to live with.

[@itsallgood4093]

@@Lauren-vd4qe Dobermans do seem to be making a comeback.

[@lexymccabe6873]

The bits aren’t violent depending on if you have a soft and but also have good contact and this is a specific style of riding it’s not supposed to be like regular English riding and if you do some research on saddleseat you can learn more about it

[@sammygirl6910]

That poor grey looks like it's about to go down.

[@traceybetts3263]

This is disgusting! The pain and suffering these beautiful horses go through is heartbreaking. Then when they can't compete anymore they end up in auctions and are sold for the meat trade. How the hell can anyone say this is OK or support what they are doing. Look at Horse Plus Humane Society they rescue horses from the auctions, rehabilitate and rehome as many as possible. They often rescue these poor horses, its pitiful to see them so broken and sick that all they can do is give them some love, then the last act of kindness so the horse isn't suffering any more. This breaks my heart 💔

[@biblicallyaccurateshlong2565]

lmfao you got the wrong breed bestie

[@traceybetts3263]

@@biblicallyaccurateshlong2565 no I have not got the wrong breed...look for yourself!

[@biblicallyaccurateshlong2565]

@@traceybetts3263 do you mean TWH’s? bc these are saddlebreds doing saddleseat lol

[@bellapell9026]

I agree

[@equestrianteam1684]

Look the horse eyes they have fear 🥺 look please stop please🥺

[@geschichtenschreiber]

These horses are huge. Mine was 16.3 hands. If they were afraid, they would probably kill you.

[@awalters1013]

I have never…in my horse owning and showing life…ever seen this level of poor horsemanship. And the riding…is just tragic😂😂😂 I honestly hope these riders don’t have clients that pay them…because oh my god.

[@awalters1013]

You’re not serious are you🤔

[@user-lq5dc2kp3f]

Tennersee is shrouded in its own world. Refusing that soring isnt barbaric. It needs to be stopped now!!

[@jayneliou3089]

Why is the horses tail upright and how do their legs move like this?

[@karenlazenby6440]

They dont naturally. They put hot pepper on their anus and their fetlocks si theyre in so much pain they move their feet high and fast as well as keeping their tail up. Its really cruel.

[@hollsrb]

@@karenlazenby6440 lmao what??

[@beelinekhan460]

@@karenlazenby6440 look up en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soring

[@raven7146]

@@karenlazenby6440 lol your first name fits you perfectly. Also I think you’re mixing this up with big lick, which is something that looks similar but is actually completely different, and yes, is abuse. That is only done with Tennessee walking horses in Kentucky. These are saddlebreds, a breed that was bred to move like this naturally.

[@raven7146]

@@beelinekhan460 Bruh, these horses are not sored lmfao. You’re definitely mixing this up with big lick. I’m a Saddleseat rider, and I ride at a farm that has horses like this. Most of them move like this, and they are absolutely not sored. They just have shoes on that are a bit heavier than the back shoes.

[@chrishale1345]

1:03 hi howie :D

[@vickyalberts6716]

This would look so much better if their tails weren’t forced into such a ridiculous position. Whether cut or braced, the tail is an extension of the spine and forcing them into this position is cruel, and painful to watch.

[@shirleyrice7093]

I do not understand why this unnatural gait is thought beautiful and why the torture of these beautiful animals is allowed.

[@GrandmaLM]

Pure abuse. Shame on you

[@raven7146]

Kinda crazy how you know this is “abuse” even though you likely know absolutely nothing about this breed or type of riding lmao

[@71koytje]

It’s horrible to watch. That’s ABUSE 🤬🤬🤬

[@Julia-qe7fs]

Its saddleseat not biglick. Pls google before you comment 💀

[@cindyrissal3628]

I'm sorry to inform you, but your ignorance is showing. American Saddlebreds have been bred for high action like this. The breed originated partly because of people's desire for a fancy, showy riding horse. They are kept with slightly longer feet, as are most ssddleseat horses, but they are not made sore. If they have something on their front feet, it's bell boots...rubber circles that are attached with velcro & are not tight. They are merely protection for the front feet in case the horse reaches too far forward & clips his front feet with his back ones. Which sometimes happens...overreach like that is part of what makes a smooth gait. Don't confuse Saddlebreds with "Big Lick" Tennessee Walkers.

[@charlotterockel-kennedy8913]

My heart broke when I saw the grey horse (#1088)ridden by that corpse bouncing around on its back. This is so sick. Yes, the horses are stunningly beautiful but you can't hide fear and abuse, anyone can see these horses are far from happy. May karma kick back at these money grabbing abusers.

[@maggiekeziah5095]

i wish people that leave comments like this would educate theirselves on the discipline of saddle seat, not big lick. if you’ve ever been to any number of saddleseat shows, you can see how much these horses really enjoy what they do, and knowing these people and their horses irl makes a huge difference. the man riding the horse your referring to, has ridden for years and years and sure hes older, but he knows what he’s doing. i really dont appreciate the way you called them “money grabbing abusers” either! there is abuse in every discipline whether you choose to believe it or not, but these people are the kindest people if you knew them. i’ve met many of the people showing in this particular class, and the winner of this class is genuinely the kindest, humblest, most welcoming person. please put yourself in this environment and experience different shows and classes before you start your incredibly offensive criticism.

[@alinareybey3263]

@@maggiekeziah5095 not the person with no content on her animal abusing channel 😂😂

[@maggiekeziah5095]

@@alinareybey3263 are you talking about my channel? having content doesnt relate to anything my comment was about

[@alinareybey3263]

@@maggiekeziah5095 lol yes I am. Please enlighten me on how this discipline isn’t abuse. I’ll wait.

[@maggiekeziah5095]

@@alinareybey3263 I’ve already explained it in the comment i wrote, but elaborate on what exactly you think i didn’t address and id be happy to explain.

[@veronicafuller4353]

These horses look in pain and are tired

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

they are not in pain; they have PILES of energy; trust me; i owned 2 of them

[@countchocula5379]

I agree.

[@sandysimon7313]

They get that gait by causing pain to the horses so…

[@lyssue386]

Some of the riders look like they're in pain too...(granted they're pretty old- but ouch).

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

@@lyssue386 the riders nor horses are in pain.

[@kathrynrose-schultz9218]

Are these horses trained with soring to pick up feet and did the have their tendons cut to prop up the tail?

[@kyleemarie419]

this looks very big lick to me. I am pretty sure there is some abuse going on behind the scenes.

[@gemini2261]

Some of these horses are clearly distressed with their legs 😕

[@texmustangbullitt]

Outstanding video! I'm looking at you was the best! However I have the highest respect for Merrill and his gorgeous grey beauty. The fact that he can still do this with such perfection at his age is truly inspiring.

[@rundunnyrun]

Love the grey mares movement!

[@ratherbfishing455]

They grey horse is better, but a lot of mistakes.

[@catehutchinson9945]

The is nice but poorly ridden. The rider jabbed the horses mouth the whole time :( He didn’t deserve a place, certainly not second.

[@debbieashton4976]

I agree from what I could see. Nose in the air and many mistakes. But I don't have judge's vantage point. Grey mare my personal favorite.

[@lg1882]

cc Hello Horse Plus Humane Society...WAKE UP AND LOOK AT ABUSE HERE...DO something for god's sake

[@sammysheartsgoodwin8835]

Still got the horses tails cut. Horses sweat when they are stress. Ive never seen horses move like this in my life. Its so cruel. I dont why people have to treat these beautiful horses so horrible.

[@lg1882]

cc its all about money and status....

[@Theragll]

Why is it a world championship when the competitors are all from the USA.

[@asaddleseatrider9426]

They’re are other places, I guess here if where the show was that year

[@Theragll]

@@asaddleseatrider9426 I am not sure I follow what you are saying

[@pipercopeland9179]

i’m so done seeing people think this is big lick or twh. years ago the american horse Association came at the saddlebred and morgan world be we have 5 gauged horses and the rack looks something like big lick. IT IS NOTHIBG LIKE IT. i’m so tired of hearing about. i’ve trained horses all of my life so had my mom and my grandma. they are both world champions and have national titles. the rack has nothing to do with big lick. nothing in the saddlebred and morgan world is abuse. these horses are living the life. they are treated AMAZINGLY WELL. these horses can move like this on their own. the rack is not on their own but they where trained young and if the they show that they can’t rack them the trainer doesn’t train them to be 5 gaited only 3 gaited. and they aren’t hanging on their mouth, yes they have right reins but you have to understand these horses are VERY VERY hard horses to ride bc they are worth so much and such nice horses. so when they have tight reins it’s bc that was how the horse was trained. TRUST ME when i say these horses are in no pain what so ever. they are being treated like QUEENS AND KINGS.

[@pipercopeland9179]

@Nej Bk saddle seat horses aren’t forced to move the way they do. they are breed to do it, but if they can’t do it whne they are older they don’t become saddleseat horses. saddleseat isn’t abuse, big lick is.

[@ailaya5127]

@Nej Bk American Saddlebred, Rocky Mountain Pony, Paso Peruano, Paso Fino, Icelandic horse, Aegidienberger, and many more belong to the group of gaited horses. In the medieval times, there were tons of gaited horses in Europe, later they were not useful in the army and before the carrige. There are further horse breeds which sometimes show a gait and thus can be trained: Trotter, Fjord ponies, Frisian horses,.... All these horses have an additional gait which can be trained just like any other gait in dressage. The Tennesee Walking Horse belongs to the gaited horses. But the "gait" is different between the different races and the TWH is born with a very flat gait (opposite to Paso Finos, Icelandic horses or ASB). Big Lick is an abusive way to make them look like a ridduculous ASB . I also agree that on high level there is bad behaviour in an any sport and I see some things in that video which I don't like. I am speaking about hard hands with sharp bits like in the vid or at dressage horse auctions to give them impressive movement though stress, or Rollkur which sadly even got into the Lippizan School since the Austrian goverment stopped they support and they have to make profit. But the accusation that horses of gaited breeds can only gait if they are abused, is very wrong. Here a video from an icelandic horse compition (actually the WC in Austria) in a class where they need to prove that they can tölt they horse without reins. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2HEZ3atj9Sam7c

[@aujkalenic4203]

How overheated and stressed are these beautiful beasts, I believe this is all unnecessary to show a horse!

[@ratherbfishing455]

All breeds have their problems

[@hollsrb]

none of them are showing signs of stress?

[@hollsrb]

and the glow may be sweat but its most likely show shine

[@Saddle_Editz]

This is completely incorrect please do your research before commenting negative things

[@jmcc199]

Sorry but both the riders and horses look like freaks - not natural, not comfortable, not attractive at all. Horses are naturally beautiful in looks and movement. These look very odd to say the least!

[@hollsrb]

maybe try another saddleseat video these people dont know how to ride 😂

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

well i guess they look odd in the pasture as they move the same way there too...

[@looneytunes105]

That gray horse..

[@amandaturner8928]

Oh and for those who say their tails are not nicked, I've never seen a horse standing naturally with their tails sticking up vertically, even Arabians. Yes tails are carried high when horses are excited but this is utterly ridiculous and FALSE.🐎🇦🇺

[@jasminechen009]

their tails arent cut. some barns use tail braces for the exaggerated look. but my barn doesnt set their tail in any way

[@amandaturner8928]

@@wesley7376 if you read my reply properly I said I had never seen any horse carry a tail like the gaited ones , even Arabians who carry their tail high NATURALLY. I never said they were abused. I think you are a bit confused and jumped in. I hope you understand my post now. Have a good day!

[@amandaturner8928]

@@wesley7376 simply put and you won't like it , I will put it bluntly. Arabs have natural high set tails due to their conformation. End of anything to do with Arabs. The gaited Saddlebreds tails are not natural,it is done artificially, and as for the stacks on their feet and also chains, it's blatant cruelty and abuse. As you are a fan of them I don't expect you to like this post but I'm starting the truth. What you do at home or with your horse I do not know BUT I am commenting on the video here. I stand by everything I said. There's nothing else to say and I will not argue, so thank you and goodbye.🐎🇦🇺

[@deborahhauser3805]

I love you you are want people should be

[@annanorton1793]

How the "Big lick" is allowed is beyond me. Why it's not banned by the US government? Horrendous cruelty to horses!!

[@maggiekeziah5095]

This is not the Big Lick. Your comment shows how little you know about saddleseat, which is being shown in this video.

[@annanorton1793]

Maggie Keziah I know that this perticular picture is not a big lick, but the general conversation was about it. I do know what I am talking about.

[@maggiekeziah5095]

@@annanorton1793 But this is a saddleseat video? I agree that the big lick is horrible and should be stopped immediately though.

[@annanorton1793]

Totally agree, have no issue with the saddle bread.

[@pennywatkins6754]

this isnt big lick. there is a difference you fool.

[@SarahWRah]

I agree that the riders' style in the show ring has become unattractive and a bit ridiculous. I'm sorry to see the extreme tails sets that have become expected. When I rode my Saddlebred mare, we took light hands and balanced horsemanship seriously. I was taught that the contact between the hands and mouth should be like butterfly on a thread. I loved the feeling of partnership between myself and my mare.

[@royalwolfimports355]

And the big lick says you can't get a high steper without stacks...yeah ok, saddle seat get you the same thing, always have for me and it's all done through training, time and patience not a 5lb lead block, not sure if they changed that much either, they also don't need to shackle their horses either which is just heavy chains on the fetlocks usually in the front during shows, out of shows I've seen them used on the back as well. And no its not abusive because there's no draconian contraptions and ungodly hoof shaving to an unnatural shape, costic liquids like kerosene, diesel, mustard oil ect used, then wrapped to make it stay in place. This way is the humane way of showing a beautiful animal, and yes saddle seat horses are treated like royals, least all the ones I know are, the shoes saddle seat has are in proportion to their weight, the shoe for saddle seat would be lighter then your sneeker is to you, if the sneeker was in proportion to you. These shoes maybe slightly higher and heavier then your normal shoe but this unlike the stack doe NOT change the hoof shape, cause skeletal problems, any show horse that showes allover is mostly never out to pasture, especially these horses because the shoes are slightly heavier and thicker, the damage that were to be done isn't worth the risk. This does not mean their stalls are cramped by any means, they live just as good as the owners do, they don't live in some dark dingy stall brought out just to parade, the stalls on the ones I know come with fully functional windows that can be opened, door with a dip in the middle, metal trimming, high quality wood, heating, lights, AC, I'm talking the whole nine yards as for exercise ring work and training. If one was to tell me this is no better then the big lick I'd laugh, cause the other big thing the big lock does that saddle seat doesn't is cut or nick the tendons of the tail to achieve the look.

[@geschichtenschreiber]

We have Walking Horses and don't do any of that horrible crap to them. One is a speed racking horse. The other isn't a speed demon but has a very high natural lift. They are smoother than a Saddlebred to ride, except at the canter and both feel the same to me at the canter.

[@anonamasnoname9098]

Look how that winning horse is sweating

[@NuggieIsMissing]

Would you rather them not sweat at all?

[@NuggieIsMissing]

Horses sweat after extended work and saddlebreds happen to sweat more due to the fact that they’re doing high energy work. It’s not much different than an athlete sweating after a workout

[@anonamasnoname9098]

@@NuggieIsMissing I have owned horses I know they sweat and you dont need to explain sweating to me. I have not owned saddlebreds so that part may be helpful if it is true they sweat profusely more than other breeds of horses such as quarter horses that I have had experience with.

[@anonamasnoname9098]

I also would not think that trotting around an arena should be considered an excessive workout that's what k am talking about it's not pulling a heavy load or cutting cattle out of a heard for gods sake it is just trotting around that is causing such sweating how in the h$^^ is that extensive workout? Just my openion though and I see yours is different.

[@NuggieIsMissing]

@@anonamasnoname9098 I've seen Saddlebreds being worked and they really work up a sweat just trotting around. Not to mention that their trot has different speeds and they are expected to keep it up both direction. It really depends on the class they are in 3 gaited I doubt they would sweat much but in a 5 gaited, there's more going into their work. They exert more energy because of how high their legs have to lift. Not to mention that they are most likely sprayed with ShowSheen to make their coats look shinier and the sweat is probably making it have a more exaggerated look.

[@ginnyferguson3772]

How do you get their tails to sit like that, no movement in the dock, dock looks odd?? Horses don't hold their tails like that unless a stallion about to breed, even then this looks v false??

[@janinecarson8380]

They cut the tendons in the tail, and it's braced up with a harness-like device for hours prior to the show to make it stand vertical like that.

[@ginnyferguson3772]

@@janinecarson8380 so cruel 😡😪

[@chrishale1345]

@@ginnyferguson3772 no they are actually bred like that! if you look at the foals their tails have the exact same set!

[@ginnyferguson3772]

@@chrishale1345 no they aren't, no horse has a tail that does that, I know my horse anatomy and this is pure cruelty 😡

[@chrishale1345]

@@ginnyferguson3772 but it seems like you obviously don’t know the anatomy of the American Saddlebred.

[@bhanshee123]

Are these Riders able to do this without a curb or bridle?

[@aliciachavez2244]

You can only show with the full bridle. The bridles shown in the video.

[@tiffanyhammond5927]

Terrible riding.... Just terrible. Nothing beautiful aboit this. Half of them are lame behind. Just terrible!

[@pipercopeland9179]

@@tiffanyhammond5927 no true. they aren’t lame at all. they have different movement. if you don’t know anything about saddlebreds just say that 😩

[@rollo2779]

yes, these riders can absolutely do this without a curb and in a normal bridle. I think without a bridle would be iffy, as these horses are trained using rein aid and mouth cues, but they can do this without the curb.

[@deborahwebb3736]

@@rollo2779 I've worked for two different trainers though years ago, and most trainers train with a snaffle and running martingale. I worked for Chat Nichols when he had Mountain Highland Encore and Sherry My Sherry. I was groom to Sherry My Sherry. Later, I worked for Charlie Huston and groomed McDanish McDonald before he broke out into being shown by Tom Moore later that year to a third in the World's Grand Champion Three-Gaited Class. When I first laid eyes on McDanish, I knew he would be going places. He had a huge trot.

[@jeffreycurtis3146]

Whole thing was a hot mess

[@jackieevans1208]

This practise should be banned. They don,t give a toss about the horse welfare, just their own vanity. It makes you weep.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

what practice? trotting?

[@cosmicgoatlady6957]

Wish they would stop cutting tail tendons.

[@asaddleseatrider9426]

They aren’t :3. The tails are natural

[@janinecarson8380]

@@asaddleseatrider9426 Pffft. I've got some swampland for sale you might want to look at. No horse carries its tail rigidly straight up like that naturally. Will you see horses running around a pasture carrying their tails like that? You never will. They may carry their tails high but they swish it around, it moves up and down according to their mood. There's no way this is natural.

[@itsallgood4093]

@@asaddleseatrider9426 I rode Saddlebreds for yrs. The tails are not naturally like that. They do have the tails cut by a vet.

[@geenideeennu]

So am I right, that this is the big lick? This is not natural. These horses are being sored and abused. Look at the last horse, sweating, panting and almost fear/panic in its eyes. Many of these horses end up at the auction slaughter pipeline with very deformed hips, hooves and tails (because they cut the tendons, that's why there tails look all weird)! This should have been banned a long long time ago. And I wonder why its not. And reading the comments below, I am not the only one who is thinking this! Stop abusing horses!!!!

[@itsallgood4093]

First, this is NOT what's called the "big lick". That is what Tennessee Walking Horses do. These are American Saddlebreds. This is the World Championship, so these are the best of the best in their field. They have no reason to "sore" these horses. These horses are not panicked at all! This is not anything new for them so there is no reason for them to panic. You're getting all your info from KZbin videos. I will agree on the tail issue. It's an old custom that really should be done away with!

[@mariebirkelund8798]

The style of riding reminds me of Icelandic horse shows back in the 70s (apart from the fancy clothes they are wearing in this video). Luckily some parts of the Western World has changed since and are now riding in a more biomechanically sensible way. For instance, it was discovered sometime in the zeroes, that you don't need to sit on the horse's bum to give the shoulders enough freedom. Maybe the great US might become as developed a country as on the European continent ;)

[@lisapilmore6421]

Completely unnatural, these are not happy horses!!🥲Makes me want to 🤮that people think this is okay to treat horses this way!

[@karenlazenby6440]

I just see pain, anxiety and SEVERE ABUSE.

[@pennywatkins6754]

you're very uneducated. they are all great riders. obveously,you know nothing about riding or the sport. you should get to know the saddle seat industry before making yourself look like a fool. this is a very hard sport. i ride saddleseat and won us nationls 2x on my first year in a class of 18. this sport isn't something everyone can do, its expensive. and extremely difficult.this isn't abuse. they are breed for it.

[@NuggieIsMissing]

So point out where you see these horses are anxious? Do you know anything about saddlebreds?

[@pattykake7195]

The riders look like morticians, with shocking high hands and awful leg positioning. Poor horses having to carry those unbalanced, mouth jabbing, loin sitters around…😬

[@debbieashton4976]

You have read about abuse on tennessee walker show horses (loin riders!!!), these are saddlebreds.

[@pattykake7195]

​@@debbieashton4976 I know the difference between the two. The saddlebred riders are not as bad, but have terrible positioning and hands.The Big Lick should be banned… it’s animal abuse….👎🏽

[@debbieashton4976]

Lol you already lost me with the "loin riders." Had a good laugh. (I owned and rode saddlebreds for years).

[@pattykake7195]

@@debbieashton4976 Good for you. Hope you looked better than this lot…😬

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

if u want perfect riders watch saddleseat equitation

[@RPostVideos]

Are these horses sored? Do they wear weighted shoes or is that just TWH?

[@amandaturner8928]

Abuse of the noble horse, for vanity and money. If only the riders knew how pathetic they are. The horses aren't even able to stand naturally balanced. Walk of honour? Walk of shame, rather.

[@itsallgood4093]

The horses can stand just fine.

[@amandaturner8928]

@@itsallgood4093 they may "stand" but not the normal way for any horse. Their points of balance are all over the place because of artificial interference. I've owned horses and trained them for over forty five years and no one can tell me that's natural or normal for a horse.😕🐨

[@itsallgood4093]

@@amandaturner8928 if you are referring to them being "parked out" or "stretched out" while standing, they are trained to do that. It's one of those traditions that happen in the horse world.

[@amandaturner8928]

@@itsallgood4093 only in your world in the US, thankfully.😊

[@itsallgood4093]

@@amandaturner8928 Now we're going to America shaming? That's pretty childish, considering people all over the world do things with their horses that you wouldn't approve of either.

[@anonamasnoname9098]

I never saw a horse have to work so hard just to walk forward it's a shame no wonder it got out of hand is this really all natural gait?

[@eponawoods2798]

American Saddlebreds are NOT Tennessee Walkers !!No Torture! All my life ridden and trained 5 gaited

[@hollsrb]

@Nej Bk thats just what some people do not everyone. the people who do are in the wrong but i have been around tons saddlebreds who do saddleseat and none of them had their tail nicked :))

[@lorimullen3680]

HOW IS THAT UNNATURAL GATE TAUGHT TO THESE HORSES??? NO MATTER THE BREED!!! IT IS ABUSE!!!

[@lauriehughes8085]

This needs to be outlawed. Looks just like big lick, sick shit.

[@pennywatkins6754]

you're very uneducated. obveously,you know nothing about riding or the breed. They trot like this for a reason, they are bred for it. big lick horses are different. you should get to know the saddle seat industry before making yourself look like a fool. this is a very hard sport. i ride saddleseat and won us nationls 2x on my first year in a class of 18. this sport isn't something everyone can do, its expensive, and extremely difficult.the horses are not abused.

[@samanthaensley9006]

@@pennywatkins6754 sweety nothing about this is natural.

[@brileyvas]

Everything is natural (honestly the men look really funny that’s just me I think)

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

no its not; saddlebreds wear light small shoes like an other horse plus they trot like this in the pasture with nothing on them!!

[@beelinekhan460]

jesus, thanking god??? how hippocratic!

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

dont blaspheme

[@beelinekhan460]

@@Lauren-vd4qe you, who cause pain to god' creatures are sinners!

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

@@beelinekhan460 I dont have a horse or any pets so how could I? besides, u need to read your Bible! Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain....TEN COMMANDMENTS...

[@Bryn.Thunder]

I like to see a natural gait like this. Not that ugly abused gait

[@pageachatter229]

Glad to see these horses being ridden in their natural gaits like they're supposed to be. If it didn't have that stupid waterfall tail thing, and get rid of those ludicrously huge shank bits, that'd be a further step in the right direction.

[@asheyeakin545]

The height of which those horses are lifting their hooves is not natural in the slightest.

[@debbiehollis5711]

This gait is far from bloody natural .Goodness and look at their tails and the sweat thats pouring off the horses .Disgusting .

[@debbiehollis5711]

Lisa plambeck you are so wrong. Natural gait don't be ridiculous.

[@debbiehollis5711]

@@homeandgardendiy6363 It should be banned

[@saragog]

Lisa I think you need to do more research..... Not natural.... Sweating bucket's..... Not normal... And the tails..... Cut nerves are not natural either...

[@lorraineroberge5793]

Behind the scenes, torture on these poor horses.!!!

[@user-lq5dc2kp3f]

Is there still actually a walking horse. After this amount of abuse there cant be, no matter what the public think they are seeing

[@christinebaker8754]

Thank God some people value and understand these magnificent Tennessee Walking horses without the obscenity and cruelty toward their fellow TWH, poor dear creatures subjected to torture, stack shoes, chains and beatings to perform the shitting Big Lick. These darlings look happy to be strutting their stuff!

[@asbsrbest]

These aren't TWH - these are Saddlebreds. And they don't do a Big Lick.

[@monicaahrens8731]

They still sever the tendon in the tail rendering the tail useless so that it can be stuck up at a stupid angle for appearance sake....not to mention the use of vicious cruel bits!!!! It's not much better.

[@bhanshee123]

@@asbsrbest AH, Saddlebreds. Wiki:"In order to create a particularly high tail posture, American Saddlebreds, which are shown in shows, sever the muscles on the underside of the tail, which causes the horse to carry its tail particularly high. This procedure is called "nicking". In order to prevent the severed muscles from growing together again, a kind of cuff is strapped around the tail of the horse in the stable." very nice human behavior. :-(

[@brittanyritenour4695]

These are saddlebreds

[@tiffanyhammond5927]

Come on. They do the toturing at home. They get treated like they are going to the big lick. Psshhhhhh

[@spoink3514]

Guys... guys... these are saddlebreds not twh- the gait is completely natural and the tail in completely natural to saddlebreds. If these were twh they would have stacks and their hind end would bend in because their reaching so much. But they arent because these are saddlebreds

[@ratherbfishing455]

The ligament is nicked, so the tail will stand up. It has to stay in a brace.

[@LiMaking]

This is not natural. the tail is cut so they can bend it upwards and tie it in place, and that gate is done by forcing them to basically walk in high heels with chains around their feet. also, smearing chemicals on their feet to make them exaggerate their movements. bc it hurts.

[@ratherbfishing455]

@@LiMaking I boarded at a successful Saddlebred stable in Texas and had a Saddlebred and Arabians. The barn was spotless and the horses were treated like royalty. Their son's place was junky, but took care of their horses. They do not use chemicals on their hooves. TWH trainers used to do that. The horse has to be talented to trot high. Look at the quality foals trotting in the field. Then look at the average foals. They trot like Morgans. Every breed has their problems. All show horses are trained with gimmicks. Have you ever seen a Quarter horse wring its tail or gap its mouth. Why are their heads a couple of feet from the ground? Watch reining videos on a national level. How do the trainers keep their jumpers from hitting the jump?

[@LiMaking]

@@ratherbfishing455 you write a lot to justify all the unatural "training" here. not going to mention the heels and the tail cut are you? bc that's what it is, unatural. Just bc the barn is spotless, doesn't mean that the animals aren't hurting. Everybody knows that chemicals aren't legal anymore, so they find new ways to hide the fact that they use them. Happens in all sports. And I don't like barrel racing either. It destroys legs and mouths. However, cutting a tails so you can bend it up is not training though. That's simply body modification, in a way that actually makes them pretty handikapped since they can't properly use the tail anymore, not at all like the natural high tail of an arabian.

[@ratherbfishing455]

@@LiMaking Of course its not natural. Arabian trainers ginger their horses. One was fined for having a vet nick a stallion's tail. Arabians don't show naturally. It held it crooked. Do you think its natural that quarter horses do not swish or wring their tails? I've been in show horses for over 50 years and Saddlebreds are taken care of more than any other breed. At least what I've witnessed at horse shows. One needs to work for a national trainer to see what goes on behind the scenes.

[@ratherbfishing455]

Who owned the horse when he was with Paul Cates? Elton, his grandfather would be proud. Thanks

[@lg1882]

OMG really?

[@JeanPaul-eu5tn]

This is just as disgusting as steeple chasing and bull fighting……. If a happy horse is soft through its body and poll happy to quietly accept the bit ….. without sweating up with tension …….” Racking” to me simply looks like a horse panicking and running through the bridle…….. how is any of this a “pretty picture” of a beautiful report built with a a beautifully majestic domesticated animal with a conscious ……. There’s no respect here….. if my horse presented with tension like this and gaits so broken I would call the vet and find out what chronic conditions it was suffering from…… clearly these horses suffer from chronic human ignorance……. No vet can fix that….. shame on you all….. you are the reason why animal right groups gain more and more support to take horse ownership away from us…… find some humanity and leave this sport long into a foregone era…… humanity doesn’t stop with other humans ….. it’s the decency and respect we extend to animals and the amazing world around us! 🙏🏾

[@JeanPaul-eu5tn]

Oh and as for giving all glory to god…… I’m not sure god wouldn’t look down and smile on a creature he created with such noble grace and give his blessing on this……….. and yes please take the horse temperature tooo……. Heaven forbid the health and welfare of this animal be in your equation of ignorance….. congratulations …….you are the world champion of disgrace! Maybe

[@karenlazenby6440]

This is among the sickest sh*t out there. Cruel, unnatural and evil. And it also has anong the WORST horse people in the horse world. My God, have these people ever ridden a horse that isn't abused like these are?!! Horrible riding. These people should have stacks nailed to their feet then made to walk bringing their knees up to their chin with every step. These big lick horses are the most severly damaged at auctions. Sick. What is WRONG with people?!!

[@itsallgood4093]

Too bad you really don't know what you're talking about.

[@janethill1668]

Any person with an ounce of sense can see the total abuse these horses go through. Look at their hooves to start. Many have fake tails strapped to them. Some have eye drops in their eyes to make them look hyper alert and big eyed. Some are gingered which is put near their rectim. These are not horsemen.

[@ratherbfishing455]

Arabian trainers used to dilate halter horses eyes. Saddlebreds often have white around the iris. I had a horse named Popeye!

[@maggiekeziah5095]

This is SADDLESEAT which is all natural. BIG LICK is completely different

[@ratherbfishing455]

@@maggiekeziah5095 Saddle seat is not natural. There are no such thing as a natural show horse :(

[@dnr2089]

Look at all that jabbing and sawing with the reins! 😡😭

[@radchannel5494]

@@ratherbfishing455 I have yet to see a "natural" trail rider give his horse the care these horses receive. Mostly with them it is RUUUUUUN! or trot down the road destroying legs. Then when done, they yank off the saddle and turn the horse out for a dirt bath on his own. Yes, love you natural horsemen.

[@dianebradshaw7955]

the tail is not right all of this for a stupid ribbon or trophy jmho

[@mamawlou]

Wish the ASPCA would have a look at the way these horses are treated....maybe it would be stopped!

[@chasea.williams6025]

HahahahHah that is the biggest joke I have ever heard!

[@itsallgood4093]

They are treated better then you would ever dream! These are expensive horses, you don't pay a crap ton of money for a horse and then do something to make it lame.

[@alinareybey3263]

@@itsallgood4093 right but you stick ginger up their butts or vaginas and put heavy shoes on them and stick gross bits in their mouths and don’t let them have turn out time and have their tails up in uncomfortable positions in a harness for 12 hours of the day. Right but that’s not abuse, you guys “love” your horses 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

[@eq_elvi]

These are very beautiful horses, and I love the tails, but some of the riders are just terrible! Like just bouncing on the saddle and leaning forward a lot!

[@beelinekhan460]

villains who torture horses!!! please report this video because of cruelty to horses! check "big lick!"

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

these are SADDLEBREDS NOT TENNESSEE WALKERS!!! the TWH are the ones with the big sick lick